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Post by Ben Grimm on Dec 8, 2020 14:22:47 GMT -5
Jamie Foxx was confirmed to be returning as Electro a little while ago, and Alfred Molina was just confirmed to be returning as Doctor Octopus, so Spider-Man 3 is clearly going to be a multiverse story of some sort, plus having a couple extra Spider-Men around should make it easy to fix his little problem from the last movie's post-credit scene.
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Post by ganews on Dec 8, 2020 16:15:16 GMT -5
Jamie Foxx was confirmed to be returning as Electro a little while ago, and Alfred Molina was just confirmed to be returning as Doctor Octopus, so Spider-Man 3 is clearly going to be a multiverse story of some sort, plus having a couple extra Spider-Men around should make it easy to fix his little problem from the last movie's post-credit scene. Well I'm not too excited about this news. Can't we just stick with Michael Mando as the Scorpion? I guess they decided he isn't a big enough name to carry a movie. I have great faith in the Home series but picking over the bones of arguably the best Spider-Man movie with inarguably the worst Spider-Man movie with some hot Spider-verse action isn't attractive. Although if a trailer comes out with supporting cast from those movies fuzzing in like Tyler Durden in Fight Club I'll be in.
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Post by Nudeviking on Jan 17, 2021 19:12:07 GMT -5
I watched Thor 3: Still Thorin' the other day with my daughter who was disappointed by how badly Hulk got his ass kicked at the end of the movie first by Fenrir then by Surtur: "I thought Hulk was supposed to be strong!"
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jan 30, 2021 23:28:54 GMT -5
I watched Thor 3: Still Thorin' the other day with my daughter who was disappointed by how badly Hulk got his ass kicked at the end of the movie first by Fenrir then by Surtur: "I thought Hulk was supposed to be strong!" I, on the other hand, utterly loved the ending where Hulk tries to attack Surtur screaming "big monster!" while Thor, Loki and Valkyrie just wince.
Look, Hela couldn't beat Surtur so Hulk shouldn't be shamed for that. And I feel like Hulk held his own with Fenrir.
I kinda loved that movie for making the statement that no matter how strong or powerful our heroes are, there is always a bigger, stronger alien/monster out there. Something about the idea of beating the scary villain by using a scarier monster really appeals to me.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on May 3, 2021 18:54:27 GMT -5
Time to get ridiculously excited all over again!
TEN FREAKIN' MOVIES IN TWO YEARS, and FANTASTIC FOUR sometime after that!
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Aug 23, 2021 22:31:20 GMT -5
Does this still count as MCU? I'm counting it as MCU.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 24, 2021 7:44:49 GMT -5
Does this still count as MCU? I'm counting it as MCU. It's definitely MCU; only the non-Marvel Studios stuff like Morbius and Venom isn't.
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Post by ganews on Aug 24, 2021 8:39:15 GMT -5
Hm, maybe Samuel L. Jackson was right. Once you've been to space, you can't just stay in the neighborhood.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Aug 26, 2021 15:12:46 GMT -5
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 2, 2021 17:03:30 GMT -5
I'm super excited for No Way Home not so much because of the world-expanding multiverse implications or massive set pieces (though those look fun too), but because Tom Holland's Peter Parker and Zendaya's MJ are pretty much the cutest thing ever, and the two of them during the Home series manages to warm my black little heart.
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Post by moimoi on Sept 6, 2021 16:56:27 GMT -5
I saw Shang-Chi! Highly recommend.
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Post by ganews on Sept 15, 2021 12:36:00 GMT -5
I too saw Shang-Chi. Spoilery thoughts: Awkwafina was pretty good as comic-relief sidekicks go. Far from the bottom of the barrel (Kat Dennings) at least. She really fills in the gaps when Simu Liu doesn't do a lot of emoting, which is fairly often.
There was some discussion in another thread about the MCU being sexless, but there's plenty of sexual relationships in the MCU (and yes some very tame high school girlfriend stuff too, looking at you again Thor 1/2). So much so that the defiantly platonic relationship here really stands out. I'm sure this will please some people and annoy others.
The biggest laugh was the first stinger. I'm a fan of Benedict Wong.
The kung fu was good, particularly the bus fight. What was not good was how many fight scenes took place in the damn dark. The MCU hasn't been this difficult to see since the airplane exterior in Spider-Man: Homecoming! The scaffolding fight was a great setpiece. Jackie Chan would have put it in broad daylight. Maybe CGI needs a few more years.
The mythical beast renderings were nice (when they are not also fighting in the dark). I like the giraffe.
Not exactly subtle is it? Circular themes everywhere. But if there is subtle Chinese cinema I haven't seen it.
Kendrick Lamar came back for the soundtrack!
The villain, such as it is, is a thousand-year-old conqueror. The moral is, families are complicated.
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Post by moimoi on Sept 15, 2021 13:21:34 GMT -5
There was some discussion in another thread about the MCU being sexless, but there's plenty of sexual relationships in the MCU (and yes some very tame high school girlfriend stuff too, looking at you again Thor 1/2). So much so that the defiantly platonic relationship here really stands out. I'm sure this will please some people and annoy others.
The biggest laugh was the first stinger. I'm a fan of Benedict Wong.
The kung fu was good, particularly the bus fight. What was not good was how many fight scenes took place in the damn dark. The MCU hasn't been this difficult to see since the airplane exterior in Spider-Man: Homecoming! The scaffolding fight was a great setpiece. Jackie Chan would have put it in broad daylight. Maybe CGI needs a few more years.
The mythical beast renderings were nice (when they are not also fighting in the dark). I like the giraffe.
Not exactly subtle is it? Circular themes everywhere. But if there is subtle Chinese cinema I haven't seen it.
Kendrick Lamar came back for the soundtrack!
The villain, such as it is, is a thousand-year-old conqueror. The moral is, families are complicated.
I agree that Shang-chi himself is a bit of cipher aside from his standard Marvel hero daddy issues and, as much as I personally enjoy the platonic relationship between him and Awkwafina's character (wonder if she'll start using her Chinese name...), it unfortunately contributes to the 'sexless Asian male' stereotype. I didn't feel like it was lit poorly, considering the whole end of the movie takes place in daylight. Plus the (awesome) bus fight is in daylight. I want more pretty Chinese dragons! (and yes, I did notice that the evil dragon was European-style with articulated limbs - Chinese cinema is NOT subtle)
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Post by ganews on Sept 15, 2021 15:39:07 GMT -5
There was some discussion in another thread about the MCU being sexless, but there's plenty of sexual relationships in the MCU (and yes some very tame high school girlfriend stuff too, looking at you again Thor 1/2). So much so that the defiantly platonic relationship here really stands out. I'm sure this will please some people and annoy others.
The biggest laugh was the first stinger. I'm a fan of Benedict Wong.
The kung fu was good, particularly the bus fight. What was not good was how many fight scenes took place in the damn dark. The MCU hasn't been this difficult to see since the airplane exterior in Spider-Man: Homecoming! The scaffolding fight was a great setpiece. Jackie Chan would have put it in broad daylight.
I agree that Shang-chi himself is a bit of cipher aside from his standard Marvel hero daddy issues and, as much as I personally enjoy the platonic relationship between him and Awkwafina's character (wonder if she'll start using her Chinese name...), it unfortunately contributes to the 'sexless Asian male' stereotype. I didn't feel like it was lit poorly, considering the whole end of the movie takes place in daylight. Plus the (awesome) bus fight is in daylight. I want more pretty Chinese dragons! (and yes, I did notice that the evil dragon was European-style with articulated limbs - Chinese cinema is NOT subtle) No doubt, though I expect others will appreciate an onscreen opposite-sex friendship that doesn't end in a relationship. Where did that stereotype come from anyway? Maybe people need to look up what part of the world has the most people; they weren't delivered by storks. You could really follow everything? The final battle starts in the day and gets gradually duskier through sunset so that by the time the big monster comes out it's all black tentacles. Then they set out lanterns in full night.
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Post by King Charles’s Butterfly on Sept 15, 2021 19:12:31 GMT -5
I was pretty lost on the big mythic animal fight, maybe because of clouds and mist and evil dark stuff.
“Giraffe” actually is kind of right! It’s a qilin (or kirin to you who like Japanese beer and cold earl grey with milk in plastic bottles), which started out as a mystical quasi-chimera thing, but when Chinese sailors hit Somalia and found giraffes they referred to then as qilin—they were almost certainly recognized to be different than the mythological one (for one thing it was a real, physical animal and that didn’t really look like the magical one that probably didn’t literally exist), but depictings of the mythological qilin started becoming more giraffe-like.
That said, while I thought the moving forest was very, very cool but once they crossed over into the magic village it did lose me pretty much entirely (and I do think I zoned out for parts of it, thus the dragon-soul fight not following thing). I don’t know if grounded is the right word, but I preferred the comparatively grounded first half or 2/3, by a lot. I think it worked okay in the dark and made a bit more sense thematically there. It’s probably more a matter of taste, though, and I’m just bored by mythic showdowns in general, and thematically it was particularly bland. Awkwafina’s character finds her calling is to…shoot an arrow? Not that it isn’t important in the story and they’re probably going for something more like “fighting evil” but that wasn’t my initial read.
I actually know someone who graduated from the U. of C. with honors (to they extent they give them) who parked cars for a couple of years, though in Maine and not someplace like the Palmer House Hilton. The BMW paid placement was pretty blatant (at least when Ford was sponsoring Bond they had a bunch of different brands). My first thought was that it might have been more aimed at China, but it turns out Simu Liu said something bad and it’s not looking, at this point, that Shang-Chi’s getting released there.
Anyway I barely bother with Marvel anything—and it took a lot of cajoling to get me to this—and I enjoyed it a lot (also helped that Iron Man III: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was one of the ones I’d seen). I think it will actually stay with me a bit, instead of just heading in and out of my head.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Sept 28, 2021 17:23:56 GMT -5
Shang-Chi was the first movie I took BGirl to by myself, just the two of us. She has anxiety issues in general, and about COVID (which I share), so I made sure to find a showing with barely any people in it.
We both really enjoyed it! I'm still amazed that my 8-year-old is smart enough to read subtitles all on her own and understand them.
I really loved them addressing The Mandarin plot from the previous MCU movies, too.
The bus fight really is the freakin' best. I liked the other ones too despite the darkness, we were able to follow them pretty well.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 11, 2021 18:06:05 GMT -5
Will Poulter will apparently be playing Adam Warlock in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. Very non-intuitive casting choice, but I've got a lot of faith in James Gunn.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 28, 2021 11:38:12 GMT -5
So, Eternals... The trailers for this have not been exciting, nor have the tie-in LEGO sets, and it currently has a 63% rating on Rotten Tomatoes based on ~95 pre-release reviews. I decided to check out the leaked screen test plot summary, and this doesn't sound great at all. Warning for spoilers below in addition to the spoiler tag:My biggest concern during the trailers was "Who's the villain in this one?" It's one thing if the villain is a secret, but these "deviants" seemed fucking boring. Oh no, generic mindless badguy monsters! And yeah...if this plot summary is right, the true villain of the film is - half of the Eternals themselves. This may be known to people from the comics, (I don't know, never read them), but apparently they stick around on a planet until it's destroyed, then move on to the next one, but now half the team decides that's bad and fights the other half? I've read spoilers for a couple of the MCU movies in the past that I was worried about and been pleasantly surprised, but not this one. Even the post-credits scenes sound like nothing I'd really give a shit about.
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Post by Jimmy James on Oct 28, 2021 11:57:35 GMT -5
So, Eternals... The trailers for this have not been exciting, nor have the tie-in LEGO sets, and it currently has a 63% rating on Rotten Tomatoes based on ~95 pre-release reviews. Based off of promotion images, I assume all of the tie-in Lego sets are just a bunch of minifigs stuck on a flat base plate.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 28, 2021 11:59:36 GMT -5
So, Eternals... The trailers for this have not been exciting, nor have the tie-in LEGO sets, and it currently has a 63% rating on Rotten Tomatoes based on ~95 pre-release reviews. Based off of promotion images, I assume all of the tie-in Lego sets are just a bunch of minifigs stuck on a flat base plate. Haha, the LEGO sets are a weird combination of ambitious failures. The giant Celestial is kind of cool, the giant spaceship is absurd, and all of the "deviant" monsters in the sets are just fucking boring multicolor messes.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Nov 8, 2021 12:17:46 GMT -5
Watched Eternals over the weekend. Maybe my expectations were set super low given the reviews, but I thought it was perfectly solid. Not top-tier MCU by any means, but certainly not as inessential as Iron Man 2 or as dull as Thor: Dark World.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 8, 2021 13:01:55 GMT -5
Watched Eternals over the weekend. Maybe my expectations were set super low given the reviews, but I thought it was perfectly solid. Not top-tier MCU by any means, but certainly not as inessential as Iron Man 2 or as dull as Thor: Dark World. My suspicion (granted, I haven't seen it) is that the abnormally bad (for the MCU) reviews are due to the combination of a few factors: 1. homophobia/general bigotry towards the various represented groups in the film 2. bigotry towards Chloe Zhao 3. snobbier types who are mad at Zhao for making a Marvel film 4. people with stratospheric expectations due to Chloe Zhao making a Marvel movie 5. people who are tired of the MCU in general or never liked it to begin with What it sounds like we got was a middle-of-the pack Marvel movie that may have had a bit of a thumb on the scales of the reviews.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Nov 8, 2021 13:33:57 GMT -5
Watched Eternals over the weekend. Maybe my expectations were set super low given the reviews, but I thought it was perfectly solid. Not top-tier MCU by any means, but certainly not as inessential as Iron Man 2 or as dull as Thor: Dark World. My suspicion (granted, I haven't seen it) is that the abnormally bad (for the MCU) reviews are due to the combination of a few factors: 1. homophobia/general bigotry towards the various represented groups in the film 2. bigotry towards Chloe Zhao 3. snobbier types who are mad at Zhao for making a Marvel film 4. people with stratospheric expectations due to Chloe Zhao making a Marvel movie 5. people who are tired of the MCU in general or never liked it to begin with What it sounds like we got was a middle-of-the pack Marvel movie that may have had a bit of a thumb on the scales of the reviews.
I don't disagree. And to the first point: I do believe that representation very much matters, so having characters (and not incidental one-scene characters) who are South Asian, deaf, etc, as your main protagonists was nice to see, especially (for one example) a gay black man whose sexuality was not merely alluded to but depicted on screen in his relationship and a central part of his character.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Nov 10, 2021 17:45:31 GMT -5
So I've been re-watching the Raimi Spider-man trilogy and watching for the first time the Webb TASM movies, in preparation for No Way Home since they're obviously incorporating elements from those. Spider-man 2 is still a really solid sequel and the trilogy was groundbreaking in its own way, but man - while I remember them working alright at the time, there are some aspects that are just clumsy, forced and silly. And Spider-man 3 is obviously just a mess. The Webb series is pretty much fine but: did you ever listen to a cover of a song you like that's very pleasant, but doesn't really do enough of its own thing to justify its own existence? (to be fair I did enjoy the second one, after they get the origin story out of the way)
And to be honest, it's kind of made me LESS excited about No Way Home. I sort of wish they would have just let the MCU Spider-man be its own thing and have his own movie, rather than lean on the existence of previous iterations. Especially since if anything it seems like Sony is leaning even MORE on those elements after seeing the excitement level from fans about seeing previous Spideys - but man, I feel like that is SO heavily weighted by nostalgia. I LIKE the MCU's Spider-man! I don't need to see Spiders-men from twenty or ten years ago in his trilogy!
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Nov 11, 2021 10:29:59 GMT -5
Watched Eternals over the weekend. Maybe my expectations were set super low given the reviews, but I thought it was perfectly solid. Not top-tier MCU by any means, but certainly not as inessential as Iron Man 2 or as dull as Thor: Dark World. My suspicion (granted, I haven't seen it) is that the abnormally bad (for the MCU) reviews are due to the combination of a few factors: 1. homophobia/general bigotry towards the various represented groups in the film 2. bigotry towards Chloe Zhao 3. snobbier types who are mad at Zhao for making a Marvel film 4. people with stratospheric expectations due to Chloe Zhao making a Marvel movie 5. people who are tired of the MCU in general or never liked it to begin with What it sounds like we got was a middle-of-the pack Marvel movie that may have had a bit of a thumb on the scales of the reviews. Finally saw this last night, and I fully concede that I may have fallen for the negative press beforehand. It was good. I liked it. A couple of minor issues though... The Eternals were specifically created by the Celestials, and this group programmed by Arishem to fight the Deviants...so why the fuck would Arishem make an Eternal who always appeared to be a 12-year-old girl and only had powers of illusion? Lauren Ridloff is great, but a similar issue with her and/or a common Marvel problem of "give a hero a disability that their superpower immediately counteracts", where Makkari is deaf, but also can hear people speak via vibrations, so she's not really deaf, but still speaks in sign language?
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Post by patbat on Nov 11, 2021 12:59:17 GMT -5
My suspicion (granted, I haven't seen it) is that the abnormally bad (for the MCU) reviews are due to the combination of a few factors: 1. homophobia/general bigotry towards the various represented groups in the film 2. bigotry towards Chloe Zhao 3. snobbier types who are mad at Zhao for making a Marvel film 4. people with stratospheric expectations due to Chloe Zhao making a Marvel movie 5. people who are tired of the MCU in general or never liked it to begin with What it sounds like we got was a middle-of-the pack Marvel movie that may have had a bit of a thumb on the scales of the reviews. Finally saw this last night, and I fully concede that I may have fallen for the negative press beforehand. It was good. I liked it. A couple of minor issues though... The Eternals were specifically created by the Celestials, and this group programmed by Arishem to fight the Deviants...so why the fuck would Arishem make an Eternal who always appeared to be a 12-year-old girl and only had powers of illusion? Lauren Ridloff is great, but a similar issue with her and/or a common Marvel problem of "give a hero a disability that their superpower immediately counteracts", where Makkari is deaf, but also can hear people speak via vibrations, so she's not really deaf, but still speaks in sign language? To your last point about "give a hero a disability that their superpower immediately counteracts," when you have disabled characters written by non-disabled writers, fuckin' way she goes boys
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Nov 11, 2021 13:18:23 GMT -5
Finally saw this last night, and I fully concede that I may have fallen for the negative press beforehand. It was good. I liked it. A couple of minor issues though... The Eternals were specifically created by the Celestials, and this group programmed by Arishem to fight the Deviants...so why the fuck would Arishem make an Eternal who always appeared to be a 12-year-old girl and only had powers of illusion? Lauren Ridloff is great, but a similar issue with her and/or a common Marvel problem of "give a hero a disability that their superpower immediately counteracts", where Makkari is deaf, but also can hear people speak via vibrations, so she's not really deaf, but still speaks in sign language? To your last point about "give a hero a disability that their superpower immediately counteracts," when you have disabled characters written by non-disabled writers, fuckin' way she goes boys Definitely that. In this case though, I'm happy that a good disabled actor got a good part in a film. The first point is more of an in-story problem.
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Post by sarapen on Nov 11, 2021 19:16:02 GMT -5
Yeah, so I went into Eternals expecting a stinker thanks to all the bad press. I still went because it's Remembrance Day and I had the day off, so what the hell. Anyway, yeah, it's a perfectly solid mid-tier Marvel movie. I admit I found it distracting that one of the characters is named Sprite. Yeah, she's elfin-looking and shit, but every time someone said her name it took me like half a second to remember they weren't talking about the soft drink. Anyway, I hope the sequel is more outer space cosmic, I could do with seeing some of that Infinity Watch stuff from the comics.
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Post by patbat on Nov 12, 2021 11:20:38 GMT -5
Yeah, so I went into Eternals expecting a stinker thanks to all the bad press. I still went because it's Remembrance Day and I had the day off, so what the hell. Anyway, yeah, it's a perfectly solid mid-tier Marvel movie. I admit I found it distracting that one of the characters is named Sprite. Yeah, she's elfin-looking and shit, but every time someone said her name it took me like half a second to remember they weren't talking about the soft drink. Anyway, I hope the sequel is more outer space cosmic, I could do with seeing some of that Infinity Watch stuff from the comics. When she looked straight at the camera and said "Image is nothing. Thirst is everything. Obey your thirst." everyone in the theater applauded
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Nov 12, 2021 11:26:46 GMT -5
Yeah, so I went into Eternals expecting a stinker thanks to all the bad press. I still went because it's Remembrance Day and I had the day off, so what the hell. Anyway, yeah, it's a perfectly solid mid-tier Marvel movie. I admit I found it distracting that one of the characters is named Sprite. Yeah, she's elfin-looking and shit, but every time someone said her name it took me like half a second to remember they weren't talking about the soft drink. Anyway, I hope the sequel is more outer space cosmic, I could do with seeing some of that Infinity Watch stuff from the comics. When she looked straight at the camera and said "Image is nothing. Thirst is everything. Obey your thirst." everyone in the theater applauded Still nowhere near as egregiously stupid as the Sprite-Fueled Drake Robot. Can't wait for him to show up in the MCU...
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