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Post by eldan on Apr 21, 2015 16:31:33 GMT -5
I saw them in concert. With eldan. Which I never get tired of mentioning. I actually think they are a decent band, and enjoyed watching them. Yeah I mention that on twitter and AVC all the time. And in all sincerity, they sounded outstanding live. |
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Post by eldan on Apr 21, 2015 16:39:56 GMT -5
I don't like Community at all. I still have nostalgia for growing up with The Simpsons, but I very very rarely watch any old episodes and about 90% of the quotes are completely lost on me. I don't like Game of Thrones. I didn't like the few episodes of Deadwood I forced myself to watch. I don't care about Star Wars. I thought The Master and Inherent Vice were incredibly boring. I enjoy Mark Wahlberg as an actor. I think the Internet very rarely does a Great Job, certainly not 8-10 times a day. I think Kanye West is just okay and mostly forgettable. I don't feel that every TV show needs to be analyzed to death, nor does it need to adhere to the most inclusive possible racial and gender standards. I didn't like 30 Rock and I was lukewarm on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
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Post by eldan on Apr 21, 2015 16:46:18 GMT -5
Speaking of unpopular opinions: Comedy Bang! Bang! the podcast is usually good-to-great, but I think Scott Aukerman is just bizarre, and I don't like the TV show at all. In fact, I hate the TV show.What!!! I love the TV show, but I can't stand the podcast. As long as we're going hard, though: I don't like Paul F. Tompkins. At all. I think he's smug, over-proud and annoying. I don't hate everything he's ever done, but I don't get excited when Paul F. Tompkins is the guest on anything. In character or not. I actually knew a lot of people who felt that way about him before he ever became the crown prince of podcast guests. There's just something about his cadence that feels very put-on and I think that's offputting for a lot of people. Also I don't like Scott Aukerman at all and I hate the CBB tv show. I have to really like the guests of the podcast to even give it a shot because I dislike Aukerman so much. |
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Post by Judkins Moaner on Apr 21, 2015 16:58:06 GMT -5
Also, I have regularly run into trouble at the AV Club for my belief that Jesus is distinct from and subordinate to God the Father. Are we talking homoousios or homoiousios? "I wish Mr. Gibbon had never heard of Monophysites or... Great Unwashed or... that's all I have." --Horace Walpole after smoking a bong. Liz n Dick I've started to wonder what drew me to the AVC in the first place, too. For about ten years or so, my default Internet "home" was Chris Wood's British Horror Films Forum, but I grew increasingly disenchanted with a kind of toxic nostalgia that suffused the place (i.e. nothing non-Hammer or post-very early 70s was of any interest), not to mention my fundamental disconnect from the culture, despite being a longtime Anglophile. The latter probably had a lot to do (along with the 2010 General Election and prolonged exposure to the Guardian) with massively reducing my Anglophilia, and I was probably looking for a more relatable online haven to begin with. If memory serves, I first came across the AVC in a search for Django Unchained reviews (if I get really bored tonight, which may well happen, I might try and trace my posts back to see for sure). I still love the place, but the obsession with 90s punk and the proliferation of GJIs are utterly baffling. If I was as much of a film snob as I was ten years ago, I might have tried to decamp for the Dissolve, but I hear things are just as bad over there, only in different ways. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 21, 2015 17:10:32 GMT -5
This opinion isn't unpopular, but since a few opinions have touched on this: I don't understand people who don't like The Beatles or Star Wars, at least on some level. I try to be an accepting and understanding person, but...I just don't get it. Now this might be an issue of semantics but I don't think it's necessary for person to like The Beatles or Star Wars or (insert other pop culture of grand significance here). I do however think it's weird when people try to downplay the significance of these things. Personally if I never hear a Beatles song again I would not be unhappy, but I would never deny that they were a crucially important band in the historical context of band based music. |
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Post by Powerthirteen on Apr 21, 2015 17:15:05 GMT -5
I've dabbled in commenting on the Dissolve. But it's a very small, close group, way more committed to having long conversations. Whenever I look in the comments I wonder how anyone has that much time to spend on it. I've also found it to be a rather sensitive/touchy place, with some pretty heated arguments and easily offended commenters; unlike AVC, which has (to my taste) a much more pleasant atmosphere of happy low-intensity bullshit. I like the AVC b/c I can drop in, make some jokes, and go back to work. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Apr 21, 2015 17:29:56 GMT -5
As long as we're going hard, though: I don't like Paul F. Tompkins. At all. I think he's smug, over-proud and annoying. I don't hate everything he's ever done, but I don't get excited when Paul F. Tompkins is the guest on anything. In character or not. I maintained the illusion that Paul F. Tompkins was an adorable peach of a man who, someday, would end up being my best friend. We'd laugh and frolic and go hat-shopping together. Sorry, y'all, but I'll never get past feeling this way about Paul F. Tompkins. I heart him forever. |
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Post by ComradePig on Apr 21, 2015 17:32:52 GMT -5
I'm fine with this going full-on unpopular opinions thread on any subject. An attempt was made to have such a thread previously and though it survived for a while, it eventually was closed by the OP after turning into a bit of a shitshow because well, pop-culture is one thing but once you get disagreements on more profound moral/political issues things tend to go afoul even among a group of smart people. Tread lightly, friends. While I'm here I'll toss my own into the ring of course, first thing coming to mind being that I just will never understand the appeal of Bill Hicks. I've mused before that maybe it's a generational thing but I just couldn't find the comedy in any of his standup, the whole thing just came across like a guy who sounds like Alex Jones yelling his not particularly insightful opinions at max volume for an hour to a captive audience. Laughs were not had. |
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Post by haysoos on Apr 21, 2015 18:13:31 GMT -5
Apparently I have seen or heard Paul F. Tompkins in several different things, but I really have no idea who the dude is. His picture doesn't even look vaguely familiar.
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Post by disqusf3dme on Apr 21, 2015 18:49:20 GMT -5
Oh geeze, where to begin. Firefly is okay, Breaking Bad is overrated (and similarly, I have no desire to watch Better Call Saul), I've never finished The Wire, or The Sopranos, or Six Feet Under, or just about every other prestige drama I've started. When it comes to movies I generally have no interest in art films or dramas and would rather watch a horror or an action film and consider them waaaaay more interesting. Marvel movies are kinda lame most of the time. Not bad but still kinda lame. I love Kanye West so much I paid $160 to see him live. I know R. Kelly is the worst person ever but I still enjoy his music. That one is really iffy. Does being a millennial count as one? I noticed someone mentioned Weird Al, that's another I don't care for. I was surprised to see AVC talk about him so much, I had no idea anyone cared for Weird Al these days at all. And folk music. Can't stand most folk music I hear. Acoustic guitar stuff in general. I used to like it, but now I hear it start and it's like, just shoot me, please. Pour bleach in my ears or something.
One of the joys of the AVC is seeing how everyone there hates things I always assumed were more universally love.
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Post by Great Unwashed on Apr 21, 2015 18:50:14 GMT -5
The advantage this has over an unpopular opinion thread is that it has explicitly started as a complaining about the Old Country thread, and sure at the moment it's just unpopular opinions about boring things, but soon enough it will get where the Unpopular Opinions thread was destined to go before it was unceremoniously ended and where this forum was always meant to go, talking shit about the other stupid assholes who post at the Old Country (and fuck even the Dissolve if don't mind outing yourself as a deviant), or at least posted when we read it and if prompted we can still work up a good hating about.
LET IT HAPPEN AS IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 20:14:26 GMT -5
Pretty much all the music. I'm amenable to indie rock, synth pop, really anything, but those aren't the places I dive deep. I'm a tourist. I'll listen to the single, dig it, and move on. That's actually continued here on TI. SLOW's New Wave thread has almost eclipsed the 18-month old LOUD thread in less than 2 weeks. Like, what the fuck?! Do people really still care about Tears for Fears that much? (I know a lot going on there is nostalgia. I'm not actually mad.) Oh how I miss the Metal Box and Loud columns. , I'm good. It's not just nostalgia, though; I can only speak for myself but I frequently listen to every song I've posted, and in many cases didn't even hear them until the 21st century. Discovering "new" artists and songs from other posters is wonderful, and there are some more recent songs included which have the feel of New Wave, if not the pedigree. And it goes far beyond Tears For Fears! We have loud stuff in there, too.  |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Apr 21, 2015 20:14:57 GMT -5
I think the Internet very rarely does a Great Job, certainly not 8-10 times a day. Pretty sure that's an orthodoxy. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 20:17:22 GMT -5
I thought the first Transformers movie was okay. I didn't like it enough to see any of the others, which seems to have been the right choice.
I didn't hate Shia LaBeouf until the whole plagiarism thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 20:28:52 GMT -5
I thought the first Transformers movie was okay. I didn't like it enough to see any of the others, which seems to have been the right choice. I didn't hate Shia LaBeouf until the whole plagiarism thing. Strangely enough, I actually only kind of like Shia TheBeef now, I HATED his acting before his meltdown, and now I find it to be much improved. His work in that Sia music video was something else. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 20:36:26 GMT -5
I'm fine with this going full-on unpopular opinions thread on any subject. An attempt was made to have such a thread previously and though it survived for a while, it eventually was closed by the OP after turning into a bit of a shitshow because well, pop-culture is one thing but once you get disagreements on more profound moral/political issues things tend to go afoul even among a group of smart people. Tread lightly, friends. Was Al the OP? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 20:59:24 GMT -5
I don't like Buffy the Vampire Slayer or American Dad and I don't get Patton Oswalt or Broad City. Has anyone? Wait, Dawes is a real thing? On the flip side of the Unpopular Opinion thing - I like Dawes! I enjoy their music, and I would probably be an even bigger fan if I didn't giggle uncontrollably at the mention of the band's name due to the AVC meme. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 21:18:09 GMT -5
The advantage this has over an unpopular opinion thread is that it has explicitly started as a complaining about the Old Country thread, and sure at the moment it's just unpopular opinions about boring things, but soon enough it will get where the Unpopular Opinions thread was destined to go before it was unceremoniously ended and where this forum was always meant to go, talking shit about the other stupid assholes who post at the Old Country (and fuck even the Dissolve if don't mind outing yourself as a deviant), or at least posted when we read it and if prompted we can still work up a good hating about. LET IT HAPPEN AS IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO IT WILL ALL BURN AND IT WILL BE GLORIOUS  okay, okay, imma let you finish, but...
sometimes i have only watched things b/c they were Cultural Homework, like The Sopranos and Game of Thrones, as in i know i will be out of the loop if i do not get these references, and they will be name-checked and arise in other works of fiction. others overlap the CH group by being rec'd to me in a heartfelt and well-laid-out way by friends i have met here for example, things like The Wire, and Terriers, and Banana, which are still on my to-do list (except that Banana is on LOGO now, so it is in process!)
the only problem i have with PFT is the usual hipster johnny-come-lately problem. i saw him 1st-ism. that's me. i'm the problem. everything that has been listed as a problem with him otherwise is what i love the most, even when i disagree with him. remember that Alice Roosevelt embroidered pillow? "IF YOU CAN’T SAY SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT SOMEONE, SIT RIGHT HERE BY ME."
i came to the avc as a result of being banned by TWOP for refusing to hit the shift key, being scared off of Videogum by one of gabe's hissy-fits (against some really mild criticism that just must have arrived on the wrong day, some poor fucker got his face torn off for nothing), and lack of regular coverage on This Recording, which was my favorite place to get Mad Men reviews-- they were like diary entries-- they were intimate and breezily funny in a way that reminds me of some of the stuff i've seen @scarlettletterowhora write. i have an unpublished tumblr i'm neglecting right now that i want to use to compile my favorite old MM reviews, and TR is the star of links.
lastly, i love to tell the story of how i sabotaged a grade school class trip to see Star Wars.
i wanted to see Oh God b/c i had been a george burns fan since age 3 (his round black frames were mine as well at that age and he was more than a fashion icon).
i made my case but was being outvoted, and i knew a kid, Mikey, across the street who had claimed that luke skywalker said "god damn," but i held that in reserve until i needed it.
it was a parochial school, and the title of my movie had been questioned as "in vain." i knew Mikey Bullard was probably full of shit, but i had plausible deniability; i did in fact know someone who could trump saying the LORD'S NAME in vain in a movie title even if the intel was bad.
so i pulled the trigger.
well, the trip was off entirely after that, so pyrrhic victory i guess, unless one considers this: i really, really did not want to see Star Wars. i felt it in my bones that anything that popular had to be inherently evil, and that has been my general approach to life ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 21:19:10 GMT -5
when it comes to Weird Al, I'm completely in the MLA/Rainbowsherbert camp regarding his music. My working theory of his goodwill starts with the fact that he is an almost preternaturally kind and gregarious person, and that everyone in the comedy or music world that has worked with him LOVES him. His occasional appearances on podcasts I listen to bear this out. I can only guess that appreciation just kinda filtered its way into pop culture at large? Or at least the AVC version of pop culture at large. My Weird Al love (which is real) actually STARTED with his appearances on the Comedy Bang! Bang! podcast. I mean, I knew some of his songs already, like "White and Nerdy" and "Fat", two or three of those really famous ones. The podcasts sort of inspired me to go back and listen to less-famous stuff which made me like him even more. (To this day, I cringe when I hear coworkers say "He's the guy who did 'Fat'!" because my Weird Al tastes are annoyingly hipster, or something.) Speaking of unpopular opinions: Comedy Bang! Bang! the podcast is usually good-to-great, but I think Scott Aukerman is just bizarre, and I don't like the TV show at all. In fact, I hate the TV show. Unpopular (with my girlfriend) opinion: I apparently am Scott Aukerman in my sensibility (given how often I deploy those ironic-but-still-I-love-them-so-much-jokes), and my unabashedly idiotic and corny sense of humor is unappreciated in my own time in my own household! |
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Post by Lord Lucan on Apr 21, 2015 21:25:11 GMT -5
The advantage this has over an unpopular opinion thread is that it has explicitly started as a complaining about the Old Country thread, and sure at the moment it's just unpopular opinions about boring things, but soon enough it will get where the Unpopular Opinions thread was destined to go before it was unceremoniously ended and where this forum was always meant to go, talking shit about the other stupid assholes who post at the Old Country (and fuck even the Dissolve if don't mind outing yourself as a deviant), or at least posted when we read it and if prompted we can still work up a good hating about. LET IT HAPPEN AS IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO IT WILL ALL BURN AND IT WILL BE GLORIOUS i had been a george burns fan since age 3
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Post by Ice Cream Planet on Apr 21, 2015 21:31:47 GMT -5
I've dabbled in commenting on the Dissolve. But it's a very small, close group, way more committed to having long conversations. Whenever I look in the comments I wonder how anyone has that much time to spend on it. I've also found it to be a rather sensitive/touchy place, with some pretty heated arguments and easily offended commenters; unlike AVC, which has (to my taste) a much more pleasant atmosphere of happy low-intensity bullshit. I like the AVC b/c I can drop in, make some jokes, and go back to work. I used to comment on TOS, but much like you, it just got too clique-y, coupled with the hypersensitivity and general pearl-clutching bullshit (it's one of the few places where a pretty bug chunk of the commenter community could be called SJWs and not be incorrect), I ran back to the glorious AVC and this wonderful forum. The laid-back atmosphere here and on TOC is way more fun. |
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Post by Ice Cream Planet on Apr 21, 2015 21:35:42 GMT -5
The advantage this has over an unpopular opinion thread is that it has explicitly started as a complaining about the Old Country thread, and sure at the moment it's just unpopular opinions about boring things, but soon enough it will get where the Unpopular Opinions thread was destined to go before it was unceremoniously ended and where this forum was always meant to go, talking shit about the other stupid assholes who post at the Old Country (and fuck even the Dissolve if don't mind outing yourself as a deviant), or at least posted when we read it and if prompted we can still work up a good hating about. LET IT HAPPEN AS IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO IT WILL ALL BURN AND IT WILL BE GLORIOUS okay, okay, imma let you finish, but...
sometimes i have only watched things b/c they were Cultural Homework, like The Sopranos and Game of Thrones, as in i know i will be out of the loop if i do not get these references, and they will be name-checked and arise in other works of fiction. others overlap the CH group by being rec'd to me in a heartfelt and well-laid-out way by friends i have met here for example, things like The Wire, and Terriers, and Banana, which are still on my to-do list (except that Banana is on LOGO now, so it is in process!)
the only problem i have with PFT is the usual hipster johnny-come-lately problem. i saw him 1st-ism. that's me. i'm the problem. everything that has been listed as a problem with him otherwise is what i love the most, even when i disagree with him. remember that Alice Roosevelt embroidered pillow? "IF YOU CAN’T SAY SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT SOMEONE, SIT RIGHT HERE BY ME."
i came to the avc as a result of being banned by TWOP for refusing to hit the shift key, being scared off of Videogum by one of gabe's hissy-fits (against some really mild criticism that just must have arrived on the wrong day, some poor fucker got his face torn off for nothing), and lack of regular coverage on This Recording, which was my favorite place to get Mad Men reviews-- they were like diary entries-- they were intimate and breezily funny in a way that reminds me of some of the stuff i've seen @scarlettletterowhora write. i have an unpublished tumblr i'm neglecting right now that i want to use to compile my favorite old MM reviews, and TR is the star of links.
lastly, i love to tell the story of how i sabotaged a grade school class trip to see Star Wars.
i wanted to see Oh God b/c i had been a george burns fan since age 3 (his round black frames were mine as well at that age and he was more than a fashion icon).
i made my case but was being outvoted, and i knew a kid, Mikey, across the street who had claimed that luke skywalker said "god damn," but i held that in reserve until i needed it.
it was a parochial school, and the title of my movie had been questioned as "in vain." i knew Mikey Bullard was probably full of shit, but i had plausible deniability; i did in fact know someone who could trump saying the LORD'S NAME in vain in a movie title even if the intel was bad.
so i pulled the trigger.
well, the trip was off entirely after that, so pyrrhic victory i guess, unless one considers this: i really, really did not want to see Star Wars. i felt it in my bones that anything that popular had to be inherently evil, and that has been my general approach to life ever since.
I really love this comment (for one particularly obvious reason, but many more still). Just needed to say that! |
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Post by Ice Cream Planet on Apr 21, 2015 21:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 21:46:50 GMT -5
i came to the avc as a result of being banned by TWOP for refusing to hit the shift key, being scared off of Videogum by one of gabe's hissy-fits (against some really mild criticism that just must have arrived on the wrong day, some poor fucker got his face torn off for nothing), and lack of regular coverage on This Recording, which was my favorite place to get Mad Men reviews-- they were like diary entries-- they were intimate and breezily funny in a way that reminds me of some of the stuff i've seen @scarlettletterowhora write. i have an unpublished tumblr i'm neglecting right now that i want to use to compile my favorite old MM reviews, and TR is the star of links. I'm totally saving that to use as a blurb for my first book. |
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Post by Floyd D Barber on Apr 21, 2015 21:47:14 GMT -5
I am wildly inconsistent regarding my likes and dislikes in pop culture, with no rhyme or reason as to what I might find entertaining, but I guess the thing most likely to cause rabid fans of stuff to give me the stink-eye is the fact that I just really don't get excited one way or the other about most of it. I am often startled by the venom some people have for some things.
There are a few things I make it a point to watch or listen to, and a lot of stuff I don't care for, but very little in the way of music, TV or movies that cause me to go into a seething rage.
I guess this is mostly because it's pretty easy for me to avoid seeing a TV show or movie, or hearing a particular song, if it really annoys me. I suppose that is one luxury of working alone much of the time. My GF's schedule and mine are different enough that we often end up watching TV at different times, so we only have to put up with each others bizarre tastes in programming for short bursts. I'm sure if I had to listen to somebody else's music or watch someone else's TV shows 8 hours a day I would grow to viciously hate a lot more of them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 22:09:40 GMT -5
i came to the avc as a result of being banned by TWOP for refusing to hit the shift key, being scared off of Videogum by one of gabe's hissy-fits (against some really mild criticism that just must have arrived on the wrong day, some poor fucker got his face torn off for nothing), and lack of regular coverage on This Recording, which was my favorite place to get Mad Men reviews-- they were like diary entries-- they were intimate and breezily funny in a way that reminds me of some of the stuff i've seen @scarlettletterowhora write. i have an unpublished tumblr i'm neglecting right now that i want to use to compile my favorite old MM reviews, and TR is the star of links. I'm totally saving that to use as a blurb for my first book.  ready
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Post by Pastafarian on Apr 21, 2015 22:11:44 GMT -5
I don't like comic book movies.
I still like the Counting Crows.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Apr 21, 2015 22:17:39 GMT -5
Another one I discovered this morning, thanks to today's Hatesong:
I don't much care for Radiohead, especially post-OK Computer. See, what I like are songs, and whatever Yorke and the boys are offering, they aren't really songs anymore. More like post-rock tone poems or something. Anyway, when push comes to shove, I like well-constructed Taylor Swift-style pop music a hell of a lot more, and think it has a lot more to offer for the way it eschews ironic distance and just, y'know, engages with human emotions in a simple and relatable way.
Also, I really love good choruses, more than almost anything. My wife is listening to Fountains of Wayne right now and I don't know if I love it or her more.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Apr 21, 2015 23:35:15 GMT -5
1. There are several television shows that I have not seen. Like Mad Men, The Sopranos, Deadwood, The Wire, Justified, etc. I've barely seen any amines. I'm not even sure if one can even pluralize the word "anime" in that fashion. I've never seen Cheers, 30 Rock, Frasier, Seinfeld, etc. Ice Cream Planet mentioned a couple of cult shows in addition to Community, and I do not even know what the one that isn't Twin Peaks is.
2. There are also several films that I have not seen. I have seen zero full movies by Kubrick, PT Anderson, Soderbergh, that whimsical guy with that movie about a hotel last year, Welles, Bigelow, Kurosawa, the Frances Ha guy, the three Colors Trilogy guy, that guy with those movies about zombies, police, and aliens, etc, etc, etc. I haven't seen Pulp Fiction or The Big Lebowski.
3. I know who Philip Seymour Hoffman was, but I can't think of any movies he was in apart from Catching Fire. I only have a vague idea of what he even looks like.
4. I don't know if Paul Giammatti is alive or dead. He's someone I'm pretty sure I remember believing to be dead, and subsequently being informed either that I was right or wrong.
5. I'm not really bothered by these pop culture blind spots. I haven't seen a lot of movies or shows, but I already feel like I watch more than enough TV, and I'll catch up on those prestige dramas, and important films eventually. There's always going to be too many good TV shows and films for me to keep up on all of them, so I'm not too concerned about not having seen a bunch of great stuff. It just means I should always have something good to watch.
6. I enjoy playing video games, but I could definitely do without them and not miss them much.
7. I think Joy Division, My Bloody Valentine, Eminem, and The White Stripes are all fine, but they're all massively overrated in my opinion.
8. Macklemore isn't a great rapper, but his music is decent enough. I think the backlash against him has been a little excessive.
9. think that praise of and the attendant backlash against critically acclaimed pop culture is almost always excessive, and I try not to get too sucked into either side of these sorts of false dichotomies.
10. I think House of Leaves is pretty clever, and a good book, but it's hardly a masterpiece, and it gets tedious and pretentious at times.
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