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Post by liebkartoffel on Nov 13, 2021 17:32:53 GMT -5
ngl, at least half the reason I haven't been listening to the McElroys lately is the loan shark ad thing. I find the near constant mini-controversies surrounding the McElroys mostly frustrating. There are indeed some things that are genuinely not-great wrt representation in their shows and many of them deserved to be addressed (in addition to a handful of genuinely shitty jokes and remarks in the very early days of MBMBAM), but the controversies are I think largely due to people both putting three affable comedians on a pedestal, treating them as near saint-like figures (when again, they are comedians with backgrounds in video games journalism and theatrical carpentry and not like moral philosophy or something), and at the same time developing an unhealthy parasocial relationship with podcast hosts who are not actually their friends (though on this latter part, this is actively encouraged by the culture that Maximum Fun seems to cultivate). But the loan shark ad was a genuinely fucked up money grab, and the fact that it is seemingly not even near the top 10 in terms of McElroy controversies in terms of the backlash it generated is kind of depressing. None of the other problematic things the McElroys have said on their show has been something that materially harms other people, but the brothers apparently do not give a shit. Anyway, I think dogs should vote. TAZ: Graduation being kind of crummy broke the seal and then, as so often happens with internet-fueled backlashes, people started actively looking for other reasons to be upset with the McElroys. Which they found, because it's not hard to find reasons to be upset with three cishet white dudes in their 30s/40s, no matter how good their intentions, if you're motivated to find them. I wasn't really aware of the predatory loan issue at the time because, well, they're ads and I tend to tune them out, but it's gross.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 14, 2021 13:14:06 GMT -5
The predatory loan thing IS genuinely awful, though I think the blame for that lies more with Jesse Thorn than anyone else. My understanding is that while some shows have individual and specific sponsors, most of the sponsorship is decided on by MaxFun as a whole. Now of course the McElroys probably have more than enough pull to push back or even leave to another/their own network, and I wish they would, but Jesse seems to be the one consistently defending the loan company.
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Post by patbat on Nov 16, 2021 19:43:48 GMT -5
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 16, 2021 20:45:12 GMT -5
Never have I been more glad that I just simply didn't feel like I had time to keep up with TAZ at around the time that the first Amnesty arc wrapped. I do kind of wonder if this one niche of the world is way better in the alternate universe where TAZ just didn't take off. MBMBAM and Wonderful! are still a good comfort bed time listen but...yea, they're just guys people.
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Post by patbat on Dec 6, 2021 14:12:28 GMT -5
Where did you stand on GingerbreadhouseGate
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Dec 6, 2021 15:05:23 GMT -5
Where did you stand on GingerbreadhouseGate Patbat, what is, was, or will be the premise of Gingerbreadhousegate?
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Post by patbat on Dec 6, 2021 15:08:25 GMT -5
Where did you stand on GingerbreadhouseGate Patbat, what is, was, or will be the premise of Gingerbreadhousegate? You're better off not knowing tbh
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Dec 6, 2021 15:12:00 GMT -5
Patbat, what is, was, or will be the premise of Gingerbreadhousegate? You're better off not knowing tbh Sorry, you are now required to give us an account of this 'Gingerbreadhousegate' in exhaustive and infuriating detail. I don't make the rules.
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Post by patbat on Dec 7, 2021 11:15:53 GMT -5
You're better off not knowing tbh Sorry, you are now required to give us an account of this 'Gingerbreadhousegate' in exhaustive and infuriating detail. I don't make the rules. Justin and Sydnee are on the board of a local charity that was having a fundraiser gingerbread house competition, which their kids were participating in. The two tweeted out to get people to vote for their children's submission. The huge number of McElroy fans made it impossible for any other submission to get even close. The two took down the post and withdrew their children's submission. They said they had only wanted to spread word about the fundraiser, not to make the competition unfair. You're probably thinking, honest mistake, honest apology, problem solved, right? Unfortunately, Sydnee's nonbinary sibling Teylor then proceeded to "blade out," as the kids say, on the fan community about how this constituted child abuse... and things kind of spiraled out from there into some weird dark places. It seems that Teylor has since deleted their posts. I told you you were better off not knowing.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Dec 7, 2021 12:14:41 GMT -5
Sorry, you are now required to give us an account of this 'Gingerbreadhousegate' in exhaustive and infuriating detail. I don't make the rules. Justin and Sydnee are on the board of a local charity that was having a fundraiser gingerbread house competition, which their kids were participating in. The two tweeted out to get people to vote for their children's submission. The huge number of McElroy fans made it impossible for any other submission to get even close. The two took down the post and withdrew their children's submission. They said they had only wanted to spread word about the fundraiser, not to make the competition unfair. You're probably thinking, honest mistake, honest apology, problem solved, right? Unfortunately, Sydnee's nonbinary sibling Teylor then proceeded to "blade out," as the kids say, on the fan community about how this constituted child abuse... and things kind of spiraled out from there into some weird dark places. It seems that Teylor has since deleted their posts. I told you you were better off not knowing. Wasn’t Teylor basically at the center of whatever nonsense it was that pissed off so many people with Still Buffering a few years back too? Trying to separate from my “not my cup of tea” feelings about them as a podcast personality, but they just seem particularly bad at handling public attention with grace.
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Dec 7, 2021 12:40:51 GMT -5
mmmmm, gingerbread house gate
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Post by patbat on Dec 7, 2021 14:12:50 GMT -5
Justin and Sydnee are on the board of a local charity that was having a fundraiser gingerbread house competition, which their kids were participating in. The two tweeted out to get people to vote for their children's submission. The huge number of McElroy fans made it impossible for any other submission to get even close. The two took down the post and withdrew their children's submission. They said they had only wanted to spread word about the fundraiser, not to make the competition unfair. You're probably thinking, honest mistake, honest apology, problem solved, right? Unfortunately, Sydnee's nonbinary sibling Teylor then proceeded to "blade out," as the kids say, on the fan community about how this constituted child abuse... and things kind of spiraled out from there into some weird dark places. It seems that Teylor has since deleted their posts. I told you you were better off not knowing. Wasn’t Teylor basically at the center of whatever nonsense it was that pissed off so many people with Still Buffering a few years back too? Trying to separate from my “not my cup of tea” feelings about them as a podcast personality, but they just seem particularly bad at handling public attention with grace.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Dec 7, 2021 16:48:31 GMT -5
Wasn’t Teylor basically at the center of whatever nonsense it was that pissed off so many people with Still Buffering a few years back too? Trying to separate from my “not my cup of tea” feelings about them as a podcast personality, but they just seem particularly bad at handling public attention with grace. At least when Travis goes off the Twitter rails, I think you'd have made your peace with it that he was involved with all of it from the beginning. Like, for better or worse it wasn't going to exist without Travis. I feel like it has to be so much more annoying (to the extent they actually lose any sleep over these nonsense parasocial online dramas) when the headaches come from being hitched to your brother's in-laws in a relationship where the benefits pretty heavily flow in one direction.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Dec 10, 2021 16:15:58 GMT -5
I do feel like when Travis messes up, he apologizes right away and doesn't tend to double down. It seems like Teylor might have a bad habit of doubling down.
Teylor also hasn't physically sounded great lately. Hope everything is okay!
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Dec 10, 2021 16:16:27 GMT -5
Robert Evans looks EXACTLY like I'd expect him to.
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Post by pantsgoblin on Dec 22, 2021 14:13:56 GMT -5
You may have seen some viral video last week of a funeral procession of ice cream trucks. The Field Recordings podcast (which occasionally posts interesting content) has a two-minute clip of the melding jingles.
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Post by liebkartoffel on Feb 10, 2022 16:17:43 GMT -5
Been feeling burned out on TAZ lately so I started listening to Dungeons and Daddies. If you miss early Balance-era TAZ--anarchic murderhobos advertently and inadvertently wrecking shit up wherever they go--it's worth a listen. Added bonus: their DM actually remembers the rules most of the time.
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Post by songstarliner on Jun 1, 2022 7:59:58 GMT -5
I'm on the new episode of jjgo.
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Post by Prole Hole on Jul 9, 2022 10:41:57 GMT -5
Cross-posting from the Star Trek thread, but my good self and Nathan Ford's Evil Twin have started our Star Trek TOS podcast now, Talking Trek To You. He's never seen the original show, I've seen little else, so its an expert and a noob situation. We went live on Friday with Where No Man Has Gone Before and will be posting bi-weekly. Every episode we have a guest on, except for the opening one where it's just the two of us. Recording-wise we're doing broadcast order not production order and we're up to The Naked Time so far. We have a site here, and we're on Apple Podcasts, Spotify etc but you should be able to find it on any podcatcher you're using.
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Post by rjamielanga on Feb 11, 2023 19:41:31 GMT -5
Not an entertainment podcast, but I had been enjoying past episodes of Opening Arguments.
That is, I was until the news broke that one of the co-hosts, Andrew Torrez, had his MeToo moment. Judging from the stories floating around, the dude was totally out of control.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jun 1, 2023 7:23:28 GMT -5
I love the McElroys very much but the Dead Authors Podcast may remain my favorite podcast ever made
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jun 4, 2023 23:38:37 GMT -5
I love the McElroys very much but the Dead Authors Podcast may remain my favorite podcast ever made What's that one like? I've seen it come up in searches and recommendations for me, but I've never tried it.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jun 5, 2023 6:47:48 GMT -5
I love the McElroys very much but the Dead Authors Podcast may remain my favorite podcast ever made What's that one like? I've seen it come up in searches and recommendations for me, but I've never tried it. Ridiculously hilarious. Paul F. Tompkins playing HG Wells is already great enough, but he brings on very talented guests. Andy Daly playing L. Ron Hubbard is probably one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
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Post by pantsgoblin on Jun 5, 2023 20:37:31 GMT -5
What's that one like? I've seen it come up in searches and recommendations for me, but I've never tried it. Ridiculously hilarious. Paul F. Tompkins playing HG Wells is already great enough, but he brings on very talented guests. Andy Daly playing L. Ron Hubbard is probably one of the funniest things I've ever heard. What MLA said about the L. Ron Hubbard two-parter episode--it's unfathomably entertaining and never wears out its 3+ hours. Andy Daly also appears in another episode as the Marquis de Sade which is very good as is the one with James Adomian as Hunter Thompson and Matt Besser as Philip K. Dick.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jun 5, 2023 23:05:05 GMT -5
Ridiculously hilarious. Paul F. Tompkins playing HG Wells is already great enough, but he brings on very talented guests. Andy Daly playing L. Ron Hubbard is probably one of the funniest things I've ever heard. What MLA said about the L. Ron Hubbard two-parter episode--it's unfathomably entertaining and never wears out its 3+ hours. Andy Daly also appears in another episode as the Marquis de Sade which is very good as is the one with James Adomian as Hunter Thompson and Matt Besser as Philip K. Dick.
Thanks! I'll give those two a try.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jun 6, 2023 7:03:16 GMT -5
Ridiculously hilarious. Paul F. Tompkins playing HG Wells is already great enough, but he brings on very talented guests. Andy Daly playing L. Ron Hubbard is probably one of the funniest things I've ever heard. What MLA said about the L. Ron Hubbard two-parter episode--it's unfathomably entertaining and never wears out its 3+ hours. Andy Daly also appears in another episode as the Marquis de Sade which is very good as is the one with James Adomian as Hunter Thompson and Matt Besser as Philip K. Dick. I also really love John Hodgman as Ayn Rand, yelling about hating Alan Alda.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jul 22, 2023 20:40:04 GMT -5
As I mentioned on another thread, I've started listening to "If Books Could Kill", in which they review popular non-fiction books and look at their "flawed arguments, poor uses of data, factual errors, and the drawing of unsound conclusions or overgeneralizations". The first three episodes in the series (by release date) are for "Freakanomics", "Outliers" and "BoBos in Paradise". I read the first two, but not the third (not really familiar with Brooks at all). Looking ahead, though, it's mostly books I haven't read. I think it's just "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" which I found quite useless even when I read it, and "Atomic Habits" which I read fairly recently, and maybe I'm concerned its on the list. Not sure if I should read the books being discussed first or not, because I don't want this to be just the book version of CinemaSins.
That podcast was recommended by another podcast I listen to which is called "Software Defined Talk", which is sort of about the Cloud Computing industry, but also just three guys who happen to be in the industry talking about what is going on in their lives.
I am also finally a little over halfway through "History of Byzantium", at about 1085. It's definitely more dense than "History of Rome" (at this point there are already more episodes than, even though it's only been about 600 years), partially because there just more records during that period, and partially because there is more focus on the evolution of the empire from century to century.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Aug 6, 2023 15:40:46 GMT -5
As I mentioned on another thread, I've started listening to "If Books Could Kill", in which they review popular non-fiction books and look at their "flawed arguments, poor uses of data, factual errors, and the drawing of unsound conclusions or overgeneralizations". The first three episodes in the series (by release date) are for "Freakanomics", "Outliers" and "BoBos in Paradise". I read the first two, but not the third (not really familiar with Brooks at all). Looking ahead, though, it's mostly books I haven't read. I think it's just "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" which I found quite useless even when I read it, and "Atomic Habits" which I read fairly recently, and maybe I'm concerned its on the list. Not sure if I should read the books being discussed first or not, because I don't want this to be just the book version of CinemaSins. That podcast was recommended by another podcast I listen to which is called "Software Defined Talk", which is sort of about the Cloud Computing industry, but also just three guys who happen to be in the industry talking about what is going on in their lives. I am also finally a little over halfway through "History of Byzantium", at about 1085. It's definitely more dense than "History of Rome" (at this point there are already more episodes than, even though it's only been about 600 years), partially because there just more records during that period, and partially because there is more focus on the evolution of the empire from century to century. IIRC, the hosts may have viewed the “Atomic Habits” episode as one of those more “this is mostly dumb but can be fairly harmless and even the source of some anodyne good advice”, but I don’t remember for sure. I think that one was recommended by a ton of listeners and Michael and Peter knew very little about it going in, but found it far less objectionable than most other books covered. Unlike “The Rules”, a 90s dating advice book for women that a ton of readers recommended which they found pretty awful iirc (I think the book goes so far as to expressly state that a husband found following the titular rules cannot be abusive, which, what the fuck).
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Post by pantsgoblin on Jan 29, 2024 12:27:51 GMT -5
If you're a space-age-retro-futurism nerd like me, the Welcome to Mars series remains a lot of fun and available on Internet Archive. Dementedly well-produced.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Feb 15, 2024 18:57:13 GMT -5
I finally caught up on The History of Byzantium podcast. The narrative hasn't actually progressed in more than year, as last February, he hit the sack of Constantinople in 1204, and since then it's been episodes of answering listener's questions and interviews with other authors on the topics. Supposedly, the narrative will start again soon, I look forward to learning about the final two and a half centuries of the Roman Empire. Since that podcast triggered an interest in the Crusades, I started on The History of Outremere* podcast, which is supposed to cover the rise and fall of the Crusader States. However, it looks like they didn't get far, as the last episode seems to have been released at the end of 2022, and doesn't even get past the siege of Antioch. Not sure if they will pick it up again, or I will have to look elsewhere to satisfy my historical knowledge needs.
As far as "If Books Could Kill", I noticed they had a episode on "The 48 Laws of Power", and that there happened to be a copy on our bookshelf. So I read about 1/3 of the book, and then listened to the episode. Previously, I listened to the episode of "The 4-Hour Work Week", which I had read in like 2009. I do sometimes listen to Tim Ferris podcast when he is interviewing someone I am interested in, but I had forgotten just how bad parts of that book were. I'm not sure how many more episode of this I will listen to. I'm sure I not going to attempt to read any more of the books.
*Outremere is the Latin name for the Crusader states. Something I never learned in history class.
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