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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Oct 17, 2015 11:46:35 GMT -5
Let's add this to the list... Making the side-bar and ads take up almost 50% of the fucking page.I’m also pissed about the abandonment of nice, simple Google Maps Classic.
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Post by ganews on Oct 19, 2015 15:27:46 GMT -5
It took over 13 hours for Joshua Alston to put up a review of the third episode of The Leftovers.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Oct 19, 2015 20:20:25 GMT -5
It took over 13 hours for Joshua Alston to put up a review of the third episode of The Leftovers. I was kind of glad it didn't go up right away, just because I was expecting such a mess in the comments over the rape scene. I think the late review probably prevented it from being especially bad, though I haven't checked the comments there in hours.
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Post by Invisible Goat on Oct 19, 2015 20:32:53 GMT -5
It took over 13 hours for Joshua Alston to put up a review of the third episode of The Leftovers. And HBO sent out screeners for the first 3 episodes. He also reviewed Homeland and Quantico (Whatever that is), but it seems like a big-ticket HBO show should take priority over those.
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Post by ganews on Oct 19, 2015 20:37:23 GMT -5
It took over 13 hours for Joshua Alston to put up a review of the third episode of The Leftovers. And HBO sent out screeners for the first 3 episodes. He also reviewed Homeland and Quantico (Whatever that is), but it seems like a big-ticket HBO show should take priority over those. I think he's just trying to make Erik Adams look good by comparison.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Oct 20, 2015 9:12:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 11:07:13 GMT -5
I don't know if I can express why exactly, but using one of your paltry *two* music reviews in a week to cover an album by what appears to be 110% a generic boy band that happens to have rudimentary instrument-playing skill, calling said group "pop-punk" even though they are in no way punk at all even going by the typical pop-punk definition, and giving that album a B-, really showcases how sad the AVC music department has become of late.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Oct 23, 2015 15:37:19 GMT -5
I'm gonna throw in Marah's unbelievably arrogant suggestion a while back that everyone who previously enjoyed Sun Kil Moon's music should now stop because she told us to. Sure, I'll do that once you throw out your Beatles albums, and your Led Zeppelin albums, and your Smiths albums, and your Michael Jackson albums, and anything produced by Phil Spector. Then you can start acting like the moral arbiter of musical taste.
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Post by Pastafarian on Oct 23, 2015 16:04:39 GMT -5
It took over 13 hours for Joshua Alston to put up a review of the third episode of The Leftovers. And HBO sent out screeners for the first 3 episodes. He also reviewed Homeland and Quantico (Whatever that is), but it seems like a big-ticket HBO show should take priority over those. Quantico is "Grey's Anatomy" if it were set at the FBI instead of a hospital. I'm willing to bet money that is how it was pitched.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 18:27:39 GMT -5
And HBO sent out screeners for the first 3 episodes. He also reviewed Homeland and Quantico (Whatever that is), but it seems like a big-ticket HBO show should take priority over those. Quantico is "Grey's Anatomy" if it were set at the FBI instead of a hospital. I'm willing to bet money that is how it was pitched. Yup. That's why I love it in all its preposterous, easy-on-the-eyes glory.
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Post by Invisible Goat on Oct 23, 2015 19:50:43 GMT -5
I'm gonna throw in Marah's unbelievably arrogant suggestion a while back that everyone who previously enjoyed Sun Kil Moon's music should now stop because she told us to. Sure, I'll do that once you throw out your Beatles albums, and your Led Zeppelin albums, and your Smiths albums, and your Michael Jackson albums, and anything produced by Phil Spector. Then you can start acting like the moral arbiter of musical taste. Almost as bad as Pitchfork pulling their initial review of his new album to run a more negative one after his latest outburst. uproxx.com/music/2015/06/sun-kil-moon-pitchfork-review/
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Oct 23, 2015 20:48:22 GMT -5
I'm gonna throw in Marah's unbelievably arrogant suggestion a while back that everyone who previously enjoyed Sun Kil Moon's music should now stop because she told us to. Sure, I'll do that once you throw out your Beatles albums, and your Led Zeppelin albums, and your Smiths albums, and your Michael Jackson albums, and anything produced by Phil Spector. Then you can start acting like the moral arbiter of musical taste. Almost as bad as Pitchfork pulling their initial review of his new album to run a more negative one after his latest outburst. uproxx.com/music/2015/06/sun-kil-moon-pitchfork-review/Oh, wow. I didn't even know about that. They literally could have just put up another article condemning the shitty stuff he said- like they did when he went after War On Drugs- while standing behind their original assessment of his music. That would have been easy and honest. But instead they had to take the weaselly way out. Seems like people are taking one of two methods here: pretending that what Kozalek said is okay because they like his music, and hating his music far more than it warrants because they don't like him as a person. I absolutely understand having a harder time appreciating his music because of his personality, but revising a review like that (or acting like anyone who is still moved by his work agrees with the stuff he's done and said, as Marah implied) is wrong. I kinda don't think we're gonna get an unbiased analysis of his work until he's dead. Bit of a tangent here, but I've been trying to figure out a way to articulate this for a while: I always feel a bit better about shitty things said by artists I like when I can try and figure out why they said those things. It doesn't excuse it, but it makes it make sense, and if I can relate it to something in my life it gives me hope that they might grow out of it or at the very least realize it was wrong. Kozalek reminds me of a guy I knew who descended so far into depression and self-loathing that he lost his ability to figure out what a proportional response was. He was one of the nicest and most sensitive people I knew when he was above water, but there would be months at a time where he would say incredibly cruel things in response to minor slights. Made it really hard to be around him. People have expressed confusion as to how Kozalek could write such sensitive, empathetic lyrics and be such an awful person in real life and, well, that's my take on it. "Garden of Lavender" is all the sadder to me because the gentle guy who wrote it is regularly swallowed up by the rage-filled jackass who flings misogynistic comments at journalists and insults other bands for the sin of performing at the same time as him. People are complicated in unpleasant ways. Depression is not romantic.
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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Oct 24, 2015 14:51:08 GMT -5
I'm gonna throw in Marah's unbelievably arrogant suggestion a while back that everyone who previously enjoyed Sun Kil Moon's music should now stop because she told us to. Sure, I'll do that once you throw out your Beatles albums, and your Led Zeppelin albums, and your Smiths albums, and your Michael Jackson albums, and anything produced by Phil Spector. Then you can start acting like the moral arbiter of musical taste. Almost as bad as Pitchfork pulling their initial review of his new album to run a more negative one after his latest outburst. uproxx.com/music/2015/06/sun-kil-moon-pitchfork-review/Uproxx’s biggest blunder is opening the article with “OK, everybody get your knives out.” It’s a perfect article to start off with a so-bad-it’s-good pitchfork joke!
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Post by Post-Lupin on Oct 25, 2015 5:42:15 GMT -5
At this point, Wilkins reviewing Doctor Who is a strong contender: two straight As for episodes which even seasoned fans are having trouble with (and which I thought were appallingly bad, but that's secondary).
Sure, subjectivity of opinion etc. But the A is supposed to be a rare gift for exceptional works.
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Post by Dellarigg on Oct 25, 2015 7:04:32 GMT -5
Oh, wow. I didn't even know about that. They literally could have just put up another article condemning the shitty stuff he said- like they did when he went after War On Drugs- while standing behind their original assessment of his music. That would have been easy and honest. But instead they had to take the weaselly way out. Seems like people are taking one of two methods here: pretending that what Kozalek said is okay because they like his music, and hating his music far more than it warrants because they don't like him as a person. I absolutely understand having a harder time appreciating his music because of his personality, but revising a review like that (or acting like anyone who is still moved by his work agrees with the stuff he's done and said, as Marah implied) is wrong. I kinda don't think we're gonna get an unbiased analysis of his work until he's dead. Bit of a tangent here, but I've been trying to figure out a way to articulate this for a while: I always feel a bit better about shitty things said by artists I like when I can try and figure out why they said those things. It doesn't excuse it, but it makes it make sense, and if I can relate it to something in my life it gives me hope that they might grow out of it or at the very least realize it was wrong. Kozalek reminds me of a guy I knew who descended so far into depression and self-loathing that he lost his ability to figure out what a proportional response was. He was one of the nicest and most sensitive people I knew when he was above water, but there would be months at a time where he would say incredibly cruel things in response to minor slights. Made it really hard to be around him. People have expressed confusion as to how Kozalek could write such sensitive, empathetic lyrics and be such an awful person in real life and, well, that's my take on it. "Garden of Lavender" is all the sadder to me because the gentle guy who wrote it is regularly swallowed up by the rage-filled jackass who flings misogynistic comments at journalists and insults other bands for the sin of performing at the same time as him. People are complicated in unpleasant ways. I just got into this on TOC, during one of those regular and tedious flare-ups over John Lennon's 'assholery'. My view, which is the correct one, is that flawed people are more than capable of producing great art, sometimes because of those very flaws and contradictions. They create better than they are, or else what's the point. If they can express ideals that they can't live up to in life, that makes them human, not hypocrites, and the important thing is the expression, not the failure. Talent doesn't absolve assholery but neither does assholery negate talent. It's time we stopped holding artists to the same unimpeachable standards of behaviour that us talentless failures display every day of our glorious, plasterboard-saint lives. Boy, am I in a mood at the minute.
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Post by Ice Cream Planet on Oct 25, 2015 7:29:55 GMT -5
Oh, wow. I didn't even know about that. They literally could have just put up another article condemning the shitty stuff he said- like they did when he went after War On Drugs- while standing behind their original assessment of his music. That would have been easy and honest. But instead they had to take the weaselly way out. Seems like people are taking one of two methods here: pretending that what Kozalek said is okay because they like his music, and hating his music far more than it warrants because they don't like him as a person. I absolutely understand having a harder time appreciating his music because of his personality, but revising a review like that (or acting like anyone who is still moved by his work agrees with the stuff he's done and said, as Marah implied) is wrong. I kinda don't think we're gonna get an unbiased analysis of his work until he's dead. Bit of a tangent here, but I've been trying to figure out a way to articulate this for a while: I always feel a bit better about shitty things said by artists I like when I can try and figure out why they said those things. It doesn't excuse it, but it makes it make sense, and if I can relate it to something in my life it gives me hope that they might grow out of it or at the very least realize it was wrong. Kozalek reminds me of a guy I knew who descended so far into depression and self-loathing that he lost his ability to figure out what a proportional response was. He was one of the nicest and most sensitive people I knew when he was above water, but there would be months at a time where he would say incredibly cruel things in response to minor slights. Made it really hard to be around him. People have expressed confusion as to how Kozalek could write such sensitive, empathetic lyrics and be such an awful person in real life and, well, that's my take on it. "Garden of Lavender" is all the sadder to me because the gentle guy who wrote it is regularly swallowed up by the rage-filled jackass who flings misogynistic comments at journalists and insults other bands for the sin of performing at the same time as him. People are complicated in unpleasant ways. I just got into this on TOC, during one of those regular and tedious flare-ups over John Lennon's 'assholery'. My view, which is the correct one, is that flawed people are more than capable of producing great art, sometimes because of those very flaws and contradictions. They create better than they are, or else what's the point. If they can express ideals that they can't live up to in life, that makes them human, not hypocrites, and the important thing is the expression, not the failure. Talent doesn't absolve assholery but neither does assholery negate talent. It's time we stopped holding artists to the same unimpeachable standards of behaviour that us talentless failures display every day of our glorious, plasterboard-saint lives. Boy, am I in a mood at the minute. It's interesting, in a roundabout discussion way, the limits people have when it comes to great art produced by assholish people. Not that I think there is any right answer nor do I think a one-size-fits-all approach works to said dickish artists (if we junk all art made by loathsome people, we'd be missing out on quite a bit). I'm currently listing to 'Be My Baby,' and we all know Phil Spector was a bad human being. Extraordinarily talented, but just an awful guy. Anyway, the debate on TOC about John Lennon sounds like something you would see daily on Jezebel.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Oct 25, 2015 13:06:21 GMT -5
It's time we stopped holding artists to the same unimpeachable standards of behaviour that us talentless failures display every day of our glorious, plasterboard-saint lives. It's the ElDan's Dungeon Contradiction: [mean/offensive/edgy/potentially-hurtful statement/joke/action] is okay when it's me and my friends. If it's a celebrity, they're human garbage with no redeeming qualities and need to die immediately and if you enjoy their work anyway you're a bad person (or worse, a dreaded MRA!) .I'm not saying I like Lennon or Kozelek as people, or think that their actions should be ignored, but for the most part outrage over celebrity behavior is enormously hypocritical and relies largely on ignoring one's own faults.
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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Oct 25, 2015 14:19:18 GMT -5
It's time we stopped holding artists to the same unimpeachable standards of behaviour that us talentless failures display every day of our glorious, plasterboard-saint lives. Boy, am I in a mood at the minute. I’m skeptical of the talentless failures’ saintliness, too—in my experience judgey people tend to be pretty blind to their own failings, which can be significant. And this opinion is based on my experience on people judging others’ big life choices, not what music they decide to listen to. It’s just incredibly petty, and when it flares up on the AVC it strikes me more as some kind of simian dominance ritual, like which commenters best occupy the moral high-ground. It’s not an insignificant reason for why my commenting has dropped off.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Oct 25, 2015 14:38:35 GMT -5
It's time we stopped holding artists to the same unimpeachable standards of behaviour that us talentless failures display every day of our glorious, plasterboard-saint lives. Boy, am I in a mood at the minute. I’m skeptical of the talentless failures’ saintliness, too—in my experience judgey people tend to be pretty blind to their own failings, which can be significant. And this opinion is based on my experience on people judging others’ big life choices, not what music they decide to listen to. It’s just incredibly petty, and when it flares up on the AVC it strikes me more as some kind of simian dominance ritual, like which commenters best occupy the moral high-ground. It’s not an insignificant reason for why my commenting has dropped off. It's all simian dominance rituals: hald-domesticated apes marking imaginary territory with virtual shit-flinging. Robert Anton Wilson, said, I believe it. So, how long did the 'discussion' go on before someone player the Polanski Card?
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Post by Dellarigg on Oct 25, 2015 14:56:10 GMT -5
I’m skeptical of the talentless failures’ saintliness, too—in my experience judgey people tend to be pretty blind to their own failings, which can be significant. And this opinion is based on my experience on people judging others’ big life choices, not what music they decide to listen to. It’s just incredibly petty, and when it flares up on the AVC it strikes me more as some kind of simian dominance ritual, like which commenters best occupy the moral high-ground. It’s not an insignificant reason for why my commenting has dropped off. It's all simian dominance rituals: hald-domesticated apes marking imaginary territory with virtual shit-flinging. Robert Anton Wilson, said, I believe it. So, how long did the 'discussion' go on before someone player the Polanski Card? There was no mention of Polanski, thankfully, and Woody Allen was conspicuous by his absence. Lennon seems to be the 'purer' target for these people nowadays: sang about peace/was violent. The fact that he might've sang about peace because he was violent kind of floats above their heads, just out of reach.
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on Oct 25, 2015 15:09:31 GMT -5
Let's add this to the list... Making the side-bar and ads take up almost 50% of the fucking page. Don't even get me started on that. This mania for tablet-friendly, wasteful design is awful and bad: Tablet-friendly design is making websites not even work anymore. I recently tried to order something from a site, but after filling my shopping cart and entering all my information, I clicked the big red "Confirm Purchase" button and...nothing happened. In Chrome, Firefox, Explorer, two different computers, or a smartphone. The button just doesn't do anything. Web design has backslid an entire decade in the last 12 months. Websites might never be as well-made as they were in 2013.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Oct 25, 2015 15:15:19 GMT -5
Don't even get me started on that. This mania for tablet-friendly, wasteful design is awful and bad: Tablet-friendly design is making websites not even work anymore. I recently tried to order something from a site, but after filling my shopping cart and entering all my information, I clicked the big red "Confirm Purchase" button and...nothing happened. In Chrome, Firefox, Explorer, two different computers, or a smartphone. The button just doesn't do anything. Web design has backslid an entire decade in the last 12 months. Websites might never be as well-made as they were in 2013. Had precisely this happen to me last week. And it's not as if the fucking sites look much better on tablet: TOC actually looks worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 23:17:16 GMT -5
Don't even get me started on that. This mania for tablet-friendly, wasteful design is awful and bad: Tablet-friendly design is making websites not even work anymore. I recently tried to order something from a site, but after filling my shopping cart and entering all my information, I clicked the big red "Confirm Purchase" button and...nothing happened. In Chrome, Firefox, Explorer, two different computers, or a smartphone. The button just doesn't do anything. Web design has backslid an entire decade in the last 12 months. Websites might never be as well-made as they were in 2013. Those inches-deep menu bars at the top of almost every site I visit are the bane of my (internet) existence. I do 90% of my computing on a tiny netbook, and those damn bars sometimes take up a quarter of my screen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 23:31:20 GMT -5
At this point, Wilkins reviewing Doctor Who is a strong contender: two straight As for episodes which even seasoned fans are having trouble with (and which I thought were appallingly bad, but that's secondary). Sure, subjectivity of opinion etc. But the A is supposed to be a rare gift for exceptional works. Funnily enough, I was just running through the DW reviews last night and I actually thought phipps was actually pretty liberal with his use of high grades as well. Wilkins actually kept the grades in check for Tennant's run. But it feels like Matt smith's is a bit too forgiving. And I like Matt Smith, he was what got me into DW.
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Post by LazBro on Oct 26, 2015 8:15:30 GMT -5
Those inches-deep menu bars at the top of almost every site I visit are the bane of my (internet) existence. I do 90% of my computing on a tiny netbook, and those damn bars sometimes take up a quarter of my screen. Those things create a physical agitation in me. Like a hair stuck on my glasses, I keep trying to swat it away but can't. My company does web design, and we've A/B tested the crap out of static scroll features. Frustrating though they are, they do produce better goal conversion in nearly all cases. In our experience, like'em or not, they work.
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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Oct 27, 2015 10:42:31 GMT -5
The sidebar’s hit me. It totally destroys the site on my version of Firefox and has essentially been the death blow to this whole “Jean-Luc visiting the AVClub” thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 14:13:35 GMT -5
Those inches-deep menu bars at the top of almost every site I visit are the bane of my (internet) existence. I do 90% of my computing on a tiny netbook, and those damn bars sometimes take up a quarter of my screen. Those things create a physical agitation in me. Like a hair stuck on my glasses, I keep trying to swat it away but can't. My company does web design, and we've A/B tested the crap out of static scroll features. Frustrating though they are, they do produce better goal conversion in nearly all cases. In our experience, like'em or not, they work. My favorite part is when I page down or up and then have to scroll up or down just a teeny bit to get to the next line of whatever I'm reading. That's an added bonus.
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Post by Baron von Costume on Oct 27, 2015 14:49:25 GMT -5
Don't even get me started on that. This mania for tablet-friendly, wasteful design is awful and bad: Tablet-friendly design is making websites not even work anymore. I recently tried to order something from a site, but after filling my shopping cart and entering all my information, I clicked the big red "Confirm Purchase" button and...nothing happened. In Chrome, Firefox, Explorer, two different computers, or a smartphone. The button just doesn't do anything. Web design has backslid an entire decade in the last 12 months. Websites might never be as well-made as they were in 2013. As someone who used to do freelance web work I think what we're probably seeing is the move to responsive/mobile-tablet first design really exposing the hacks who don't know what the fuck they're doing. Particularly the "taught it to myself while not really caring about learning standards/good practices lazymode" types. Edit: and you'd be surprised how many of those hacks have managed to get positions at leading companies during the "we need anyone who can sort of do this" phase and still turn out garbage projects or even more frequently sites that look pretty but are total non functional kludge under a smooth gloss.
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 27, 2015 15:25:31 GMT -5
My least favorite thing about the ad bar at the bottom of the screen is that (on my tablet) the X to close is invariably on top of an ad in the side bar, so closing it opens an ad. Strikes me as a particularly lame way to generate clicks. If I scroll up or down carefully so as to position the X over a blank spot (not many of those left) I can close it just fine. But what a drag.
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Post by Dellarigg on Oct 27, 2015 15:30:47 GMT -5
My least favorite thing about the ad bar at the bottom of the screen is that (on my tablet) the X to close is invariably on top of an ad in the side bar, so closing it opens an ad. Strikes me as a particularly lame way to generate clicks. If I scroll up or down carefully so as to position the X over a blank spot (not many of those left) I can close it just fine. But what a drag. This is why I don't bother trying to close the bottom ad bar. I concede defeat. The advertisers have beaten me.
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