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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 25, 2023 8:40:35 GMT -5
The new season of Futurama has been... eh. It's alright, nice to see the characters again, not especially amazing and not especially terrible. Until Episode 9, which is one of the worst piece of complete drivel I've ever seen in my life and I couldn't even finish it. Just. Awful. One of the reasons that I was having trouble getting excited about the show coming back (and still haven't watched any of it) was that the cracks were starting to show last time, and I was worried it was going to degenerate into roughly what the Simpsons was at the same point in its run. These super-long running shows rarely seem to produce better than the occasional decent episode after about season 10, and are usually producing the occasional stinker (or more than occasional stinker) before that. South Park and Simpsons both started really showing their age in season 9; Family Guy didn't make it nearly that long.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 25, 2023 9:24:56 GMT -5
Speaking of bad animated series on Fox, I... cop to somewhat likeing Krapopolis on the limited level of "some of these character designs would be very cool if they were liberated from the GoAnimate-tier animation style." But in every other regard, the show is... erm... not very good, to put it mildly. There were a couple fun sight gags, but in every regard the show feels like it was made by hard-working but untalented 19-year-olds who think the height of comedy is having characters say "we don't have sofas because they haven't been invented yet, because, just in case you missed the premise of this show, we live in a pastiche of ancient Greece!" Two questions this show made me wonder: 1) Was Richard Ayoade ever funny? (He certainly is not a good voice actor.) 2) Was Dan Harmon ever funny? (Oh god, was Justin Roiland the funny one on Rick and Morty??)
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Post by liebkartoffel on Sept 25, 2023 11:59:36 GMT -5
Speaking of bad animated series on Fox, I... cop to somewhat likeing Krapopolis on the limited level of "some of these character designs would be very cool if they were liberated from the GoAnimate-tier animation style." But in every other regard, the show is... erm... not very good, to put it mildly. There were a couple fun sight gags, but in every regard the show feels like it was made by hard-working but untalented 19-year-olds who think the height of comedy is having characters say "we don't have sofas because they haven't been invented yet, because, just in case you missed the premise of this show, we live in a pastiche of ancient Greece!" Two questions this show made me wonder: 1) Was Richard Ayoade ever funny? (He certainly is not a good voice actor.) 2) Was Dan Harmon ever funny? (Oh god, was Justin Roiland the funny one on Rick and Morty??) You say this now, but your grandchildren will be asking where you were when you experienced the " the first-ever animated series curated entirely on the blockchain."
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 25, 2023 12:10:58 GMT -5
Speaking of bad animated series on Fox, I... cop to somewhat likeing Krapopolis on the limited level of "some of these character designs would be very cool if they were liberated from the GoAnimate-tier animation style." But in every other regard, the show is... erm... not very good, to put it mildly. There were a couple fun sight gags, but in every regard the show feels like it was made by hard-working but untalented 19-year-olds who think the height of comedy is having characters say "we don't have sofas because they haven't been invented yet, because, just in case you missed the premise of this show, we live in a pastiche of ancient Greece!" Two questions this show made me wonder: 1) Was Richard Ayoade ever funny? (He certainly is not a good voice actor.) 2) Was Dan Harmon ever funny? (Oh god, was Justin Roiland the funny one on Rick and Morty??) You say this now, but your grandchildren will be asking where you were when you experienced the " the first-ever animated series curated entirely on the blockchain." Really, really starting to think that Megan Ganz came at the king and missed
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Sept 26, 2023 7:21:26 GMT -5
The new season of Futurama has been... eh. It's alright, nice to see the characters again, not especially amazing and not especially terrible. Until Episode 9, which is one of the worst piece of complete drivel I've ever seen in my life and I couldn't even finish it. Just. Awful. Yeah, I gave up after that episode.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Sept 26, 2023 13:10:01 GMT -5
The new season of Futurama has been... eh. It's alright, nice to see the characters again, not especially amazing and not especially terrible. Until Episode 9, which is one of the worst piece of complete drivel I've ever seen in my life and I couldn't even finish it. Just. Awful. One of the reasons that I was having trouble getting excited about the show coming back (and still haven't watched any of it) was that the cracks were starting to show last time, and I was worried it was going to degenerate into roughly what the Simpsons was at the same point in its run. These super-long running shows rarely seem to produce better than the occasional decent episode after about season 10, and are usually producing the occasional stinker (or more than occasional stinker) before that. South Park and Simpsons both started really showing their age in season 9; Family Guy didn't make it nearly that long. South Park used to be “good”?
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 26, 2023 19:18:21 GMT -5
One of the reasons that I was having trouble getting excited about the show coming back (and still haven't watched any of it) was that the cracks were starting to show last time, and I was worried it was going to degenerate into roughly what the Simpsons was at the same point in its run. These super-long running shows rarely seem to produce better than the occasional decent episode after about season 10, and are usually producing the occasional stinker (or more than occasional stinker) before that. South Park and Simpsons both started really showing their age in season 9; Family Guy didn't make it nearly that long. South Park used to be “good”? With the caveat that, as with most of the Comedy Central shows of the 2000s, a lot of discussion about South Park's merits as a television show is going to be clouded by your stance on Stone & Parker's political beliefs and whether the "I hate conservatives but I really fucking hate liberals" mode of centrism they promoted has aged well - which isn't a matter so much of it not aging well but rather that even at the time it was really bothsidesish to look at the political landscape in 2003 and say "boy that Michael Moore guy sure is a blowhard!" (and I'm saying this as someone who thinks Michael Moore is a blowhard) - yes, South Park was often very, very funny. The episode whose title I can't recall that's an extended Titus Andronicus parody, for instance, makes me laugh every time I think of it.
The ceiling of quality and the hit rate are much lower than classic Simpsons, I guess, but what isn't?
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Post by moimoi on Sept 26, 2023 21:51:47 GMT -5
I'm finally committing to brushing up my spanish by watching Un Asunto Privado (A Private Affair) on Prime. The acting and production values are fantastic. I haven't had this much fun with a Prime discovery since Gogol. Also, did you know Jean Reno is SPANISH?! He only learned French living in Morocco when his parents escaped the Franco regime.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 27, 2023 5:50:03 GMT -5
South Park used to be “good”? With the caveat that, as with most of the Comedy Central shows of the 2000s, a lot of discussion about South Park's merits as a television show is going to be clouded by your stance on Stone & Parker's political beliefs and whether the "I hate conservatives but I really fucking hate liberals" mode of centrism they promoted has aged well - which isn't a matter so much of it not aging well but rather that even at the time it was really bothsidesish to look at the political landscape in 2003 and say "boy that Michael Moore guy sure is a blowhard!" (and I'm saying this as someone who thinks Michael Moore is a blowhard) - yes, South Park was often very, very funny. The episode whose title I can't recall that's an extended Titus Andronicus parody, for instance, makes me laugh every time I think of it.
The ceiling of quality and the hit rate are much lower than classic Simpsons, I guess, but what isn't?
The peak of the show was when it wasn't really that political at all - I liked it as an absurdist proto-Adult Swim comedy. The show probably peaked with Scott Tenorman Must Die. But once the politics started to swamp the show, it just got worse and worse. I think the praise they got for some of the first political episodes were the worst thing that ever happened to South Park.
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Post by LazBro on Sept 27, 2023 7:34:56 GMT -5
I don't agree with all 20 selections, but this is actually a really solid list of South Park's best episodes. Sure enough, "Scott Tenorman Must Die" is number one. (I mean, of course it is. That episode ... oh my god.)
I guess these aren't the opinions of the writer so much as a list of the top 20 rated episodes on IMDB, so not surprised it's so consistent with my memory.
"Make Love, Not Warcraft" and "Good Times with Weapons" are other strong standouts for me. And it's not listed, but "Broadway Bro Down" is another classic.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 27, 2023 8:25:06 GMT -5
Last night on House Hunters International: an insufferable white lady moving to Cambodia because she was inspired by Angkor Wat and wants to live cheaply as an oil painter. She was totally insulting to all of the apartments she saw, and had a long list of demands. Gross.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Sept 27, 2023 10:36:48 GMT -5
Last night on House Hunters International: an insufferable white lady moving to Cambodia because she was inspired by Angor Wat and wants to live cheaply as an oil painter. She was totally insulting to all of the apartments she saw, and had a long list of demands. Gross. I think Vampire Weekend wrote a song about this person.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 27, 2023 10:42:55 GMT -5
Last night on House Hunters International: an insufferable white lady moving to Cambodia because she was inspired by Angkor Wat and wants to live cheaply as an oil painter. She was totally insulting to all of the apartments she saw, and had a long list of demands. Gross. I think Vampire Weekend wrote a song about this person. have to admit I'm not overly familiar with Vampire Weekend's songs (I know the Oxford Comma one), but I'm sure it's on point
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Post by songstarliner on Sept 27, 2023 21:20:45 GMT -5
Now up on nostalgia rewind theater: The Bernie Mac Show hell yeah. I like watching Bernie's eyes drift in and out of alignment, and I LOVE that boy - he's hilarious. What a sweet nerd.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 27, 2023 21:23:00 GMT -5
The Reservation Dogs finale was perfect. Gonna miss this show. Love you, bitch.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Sept 27, 2023 21:41:39 GMT -5
The Venture Bros.: Radiant Is the Blood of the Baboon Heart
A lot better than I expected it to be. I would settle for a VB movie of this quality every year for a decade or two. There were some moments that had me snort laughter out loud, and some actual character development. It didn't seem like a wrap-up, with the introduction of new characters and plots, it seemed like a set-up for more story. The voice cast had some wonderful quest stars like J. K. Simmons, Alison Janey, and Clancy Brown.
Some random observations: Red Death's psychically linked Flying Death Horse is named Daisy. Guest characters included The Blood Brothers and The Clothes Golem. Dr. Orpheus might be the greatest supporting character in the series, especially in a Zardoz outfit, although Gary gives him a run for his money.
And what about the Monarch? Watch it and see!
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Post by repulsionist on Sept 28, 2023 15:08:05 GMT -5
I'm very grateful that TNVZ+ app has NFL games on. I verily enjoyed watching first half of Chiefs destroying Bears and one quarter of Dolphins riding Broncos hard.
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Post by songstarliner on Sept 30, 2023 0:16:46 GMT -5
The Reservation Dogs finale was perfect. Gonna miss this show. Love you, bitch. I haven't watched it yet, as if not watching it will keep it from being over. But I will soon.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 30, 2023 2:17:31 GMT -5
The Reservation Dogs finale was perfect. Gonna miss this show. Love you, bitch. I haven't even started the final season yet because I don't want it to be over.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 30, 2023 2:23:40 GMT -5
I thought again today about that episode of "Better Call Saul" where Jimmy is an idiot and drives hours into the remote desert with no water except what he has in a tiny water bottle.
This is because I drove to Vegas today and made sure to put two gallons of water into my backseat before I left. And I wasn't going anywhere nearly as remote as where Jimmy was going to.
I still think it strains credulity to believe that any resident of Arizona or New Mexico would deliberately drive into the remote desert without putting at least one gallon of water into their car.
In that episode, even the Mexican drug cartel guys all had gallons of water with them! So clearly someone in production knew that was a thing that residents of this area do.
They want us to believe Jimmy is *that* dumb?! That isn't a "cartel" thing that he would simply be naive about. That is a "resident of the southwest" thing. I don't know, writers, I really don't...
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 30, 2023 9:03:07 GMT -5
I thought again today about that episode of "Better Call Saul" where Jimmy is an idiot and drives hours into the remote desert with no water except what he has in a tiny water bottle. This is because I drove to Vegas today and made sure to put two gallons of water into my backseat before I left. And I wasn't going anywhere nearly as remote as where Jimmy was going to. I still think it strains credulity to believe that any resident of Arizona or New Mexico would deliberately drive into the remote desert without putting at least one gallon of water into their car. In that episode, even the Mexican drug cartel guys all had gallons of water with them! So clearly someone in production knew that was a thing that residents of this area do. They want us to believe Jimmy is *that* dumb?! That isn't a "cartel" thing that he would simply be naive about. That is a "resident of the southwest" thing. I don't know, writers, I really don't... I think this is what we call "dramatic irony." (Although since Jimmy's car gets riddled with bullets, I guess they could've gotten the same effect by having a big jug of water in the backseat that ends up with a hole in it.)
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 30, 2023 16:41:03 GMT -5
I thought again today about that episode of "Better Call Saul" where Jimmy is an idiot and drives hours into the remote desert with no water except what he has in a tiny water bottle. This is because I drove to Vegas today and made sure to put two gallons of water into my backseat before I left. And I wasn't going anywhere nearly as remote as where Jimmy was going to. I still think it strains credulity to believe that any resident of Arizona or New Mexico would deliberately drive into the remote desert without putting at least one gallon of water into their car. In that episode, even the Mexican drug cartel guys all had gallons of water with them! So clearly someone in production knew that was a thing that residents of this area do. They want us to believe Jimmy is *that* dumb?! That isn't a "cartel" thing that he would simply be naive about. That is a "resident of the southwest" thing. I don't know, writers, I really don't... I think this is what we call "dramatic irony." (Although since Jimmy's car gets riddled with bullets, I guess they could've gotten the same effect by having a big jug of water in the backseat that ends up with a hole in it.)
Yeah THAT I would have believed. In fact, that is what happens to the water of the cartel guys, the camera makes sure that we see it.
I get what the show was going for, but even when I first saw it, I really didn't believe it. It was wrong enough to completely remove me from the show. Jimmy isn't a dumb character. He was naive about the cartel, not about the environment that surrounds him. I know ABQ isn't the same as Phoenix, but, like drive an hour in any direction from ABQ and you will be in some very inhospitable environment.
There are just some things in shows that are logical deal breakers for me. I actually polled my friends and coworkers after I saw this episode and asked them how much water they'd take if they were driving 2-3 hours into the desert. Everyone, literally everyone - including 20 year old college students - said "one or two gallons".
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Post by songstarliner on Sept 30, 2023 20:05:37 GMT -5
The Reservation Dogs finale was perfect. Gonna miss this show. Love you, bitch. I watched it. Ah, my heart.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 30, 2023 21:18:52 GMT -5
The Reservation Dogs finale was perfect. Gonna miss this show. Love you, bitch. I watched it. Ah, my heart. I knowwww
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Post by liebkartoffel on Oct 1, 2023 9:51:51 GMT -5
Finally have some new TV. With Justified and Strange New Worlds off the air by mid-summer we had resorted to watching random Korean variety shows.
Bake Off is back! This season is supposed to be "back to basics," so presumably no more painfully misguided "ethnic" challenges wherein Paul Hollywood continually confuses the words "taco" and "tortilla." After only one episode it's hard to get a sense of (new host) Alison Hammond's personality, but she's definitely game and didn't seem physically uncomfortable with the role as Matt Lucas did for most of his run. The cast is solid Bake Off, including "obvious frontrunner who might or might not flameout due to the pressure" (Dan), "contestant most likely to swoop in and claim the title if/when the frontrunner flames out" (Abbi), "younger contestant obviously in over their head and it's only a matter of time before they're eliminated" (Matty, Dana)," "even younger contestant who actually has the stuff" (Rowan), "adorable older person who will probably stick around a little too long because they're so adorable" (Keith, Nicky), "adorable older person who actually has the stuff" (Saku), "girl I have a crush on" (Tasha), and "the rest" (Josh, Cristy, Amos). The innuendo in this episode reached almost Mel and Sue levels of groanworthy, but I have to admit I cracked up at Paul lamenting that Nicky's "beaver looked amazing but it was bone dry!"
Taskmaster is back! The only cast members I had been familiar with were Sue and Lucy, and the latter only in the context of "hey, it's Jon Richardson's smarter and hotter wife!" in a handful of CatDown guest appearances. Again, hard to tell how the cast will gel in the early episodes, but Julian, Sam, and Lucy's introduction to each other for their first team task might the most sublimely awkward interaction ever featured on the show. "Can Tower" is a classic task.
Sex Education is back!...and it kind of feels off. Lots of first and second-tier characters (Jakob, Ola, Lily, Anwar, Olivia, Ms. Sands, Mr. Hendricks) who were unceremoniously dumped in favor of a bunch of new characters who feel a bit too much like 2-dimensional overly earnest woo woo Gen-Z parodies of teenagers. We're only a couple of episodes in, so maybe they get fleshed out more, but also...why aren't Ola and Lily around? What are they up to? So far, Otis's storyline has been actively annoying me. I know the character has always skirted the line between "wise beyond his years" and "typical insecure teenage asshole," but flipping his shit over not being the only sex therapist at the new school just seems disproportionately petty and silly for the character. You can be therapist on Tuesdays and Thursdays, O can be therapist on Mondays and Wednesdays--there, solved your weirdly contrived conflict for you. Finally, British set designers, I'm begging you: please stop just throwing foreign flags onto every surface to indicate when a location is not, in fact, in England. I know Americans are more flag-obsessed than most, but our university classrooms typically don't feature giant, gold-fringed American flags just kind of hanging around the corners, our professors don't keep miniature American flags on their desks, etc. And besides, no amount of flags is going to disguise the fact that Maeve's "Wallace University" is a literal palace that manages to to out-fancy even Harvard and Yale.
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Post by LazBro on Oct 2, 2023 7:41:10 GMT -5
Bake Off is back! This season is supposed to be "back to basics," so presumably no more painfully misguided "ethnic" challenges wherein Paul Hollywood continually confuses the words "taco" and "tortilla." After only one episode it's hard to get a sense of (new host) Alison Hammond's personality, but she's definitely game and didn't seem physically uncomfortable with the role as Matt Lucas did for most of his run. The cast is solid Bake Off, including "obvious frontrunner who might or might not flameout due to the pressure" (Dan), "contestant most likely to swoop in and claim the title if/when the frontrunner flames out" (Abbi), "younger contestant obviously in over their head and it's only a matter of time before they're eliminated" (Matty, Dana)," "even younger contestant who actually has the stuff" (Rowan), "adorable older person who will probably stick around a little too long because they're so adorable" (Keith, Nicky), "adorable older person who actually has the stuff" (Saku), "girl I have a crush on" (Tasha), and "the rest" (Josh, Cristy, Amos). The innuendo in this episode reached almost Mel and Sue levels of groanworthy, but I have to admit I cracked up at Paul lamenting that Nicky's "beaver looked amazing but it was bone dry!" "So, tell us about your beaver."
I love Prue. If Mary had said that, it would have been all "innocent old woman doesn't know what she's saying." But not Prue. Oh, she'll act embarrassed, but there's a venom in her. When it's Prue, you know it's on purpose. Not enough time yet to get a feel for Alison Hammond, but Paul, Prue, and Noel are such a strong trio, that I don't think the 4th slot can bring the show down for me (I'll always miss Sandi, though.)
Real talk: I never noticed the cake in the intro was missing a raspberry.
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Post by LazBro on Oct 4, 2023 7:43:48 GMT -5
OMITB - Satisfied with that. Will look forward to season 4.
Season rankings:
1 3 2
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Post by Prole Hole on Oct 5, 2023 8:53:05 GMT -5
Quantum Leap is back! Woooo!
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Post by Desert Dweller on Oct 6, 2023 17:49:58 GMT -5
OMITB - Satisfied with that. Will look forward to season 4.
Season rankings:
1 3 2
Yeah, I just watched the last two episodes. The whole murder mystery felt so incidental to this season. It felt like the entire season was about Oliver, and I ended up only interested in the stuff that affected him. Still the final resolution to the mystery at least made sense, even if it was slightly underbaked. I'm actually a bit sad about the twist ending. Aw, did they have to kill that character? I have the same season rankings as you do.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 6, 2023 19:20:18 GMT -5
There was a show that debuted in 1969 called Turn-On that is fairly legendary for being the fastest cancelation in TV history, ten minutes into its first episode. It was an experimental comedy/sketch show that sounds like it was probably way ahead of its time, and had Albert Brooks among its writers. I've always been kind of curious about it since I first heard about it, but it sounded like it was lost and buried. The first two of its three produced episodes are debuting on YouTube on Monday.
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