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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Oct 6, 2014 7:05:06 GMT -5
The Magma Otter Blueberry Red Ale (long story on the name) turned out pretty well. Not quite as good as our last one, but still quite drinkable. Nice head, somewhat hoppy upfront, nice fruity middle. A nice reddish brown. I have pictures but they're on my phone.
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Post by LazBro on Oct 7, 2014 13:24:28 GMT -5
If you want to make a cider and plan to use English Cider Yeast, and I'm not saying you shouldn't, just be warned that it will eat that motherfucker dry. Racked my cider into secondary last night and it measured a FG of 0.998. That's really LOW. It also means my cider is sitting around 10% ABV right now, which is ... unexpected.
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Post by LazBro on Oct 22, 2014 8:52:19 GMT -5
Oh man, my coffee porter has really come into its own. I've found that a fresh bottle just has too much carbonation, so if I pop and pour (and drink) a little, then return to it the next day after it's had some flattening time: magic! A pronounced coffee flavor all the way through, slightly sweet, slightly bitter. We started with 14 liters on October 5 and are down to six (with a couple gifted out). I can't stop drinking it!
Finally bottling my Autumn Cherry-Apple Cider this weekend. It's hard to find the time with baby and schedules and what not, because in addition to bottling, I have to be available to do the pasteurization 4-5 days later or else .... BOOM!
I halfway through my fall brewing schedule and trying to decide where to go next. I'd originally planned to attempt a pumpkin ale this year, but I've since decided that I hate pumpkin beers and want them to die. I could skip to #4 and lay down a sour, but that won't be drinkable for a LONG time so I kinda want to do something else first. The cider will need a friend, and I'm not thinking the coffee porter will last much longer.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Oct 22, 2014 8:56:42 GMT -5
Our blueberry red ale is continuing to grow on me. I think our Christmas beer will be a cinnamon-ginger spiced saison. We're still working out the details. LazBro I would drink the hell out of both your coffee porter and cider.
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Post by LazBro on Oct 22, 2014 9:12:31 GMT -5
Our blueberry red ale is continuing to grow on me. I think our Christmas beer will be a cinnamon-ginger spiced saison. We're still working out the details. LazBro I would drink the hell out of both your coffee porter and cider. Your next beer sounds lovely. I tend to find saisons a bit tame, but I think with a little snap from the ginger and warmth from the cinnamon, that could be a very festive libation indeed. Because I am an oafish male who thinks not of the future, I hadn't even considered holidays. But it would be cool to have a couple things to bring. I need to make sure my next beer is something populist and not, like, a double-IPA which I was genuinely considering. Hmmmmm.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Oct 22, 2014 9:23:16 GMT -5
Our blueberry red ale is continuing to grow on me. I think our Christmas beer will be a cinnamon-ginger spiced saison. We're still working out the details. LazBro I would drink the hell out of both your coffee porter and cider. Your next beer sounds lovely. I tend to find saisons a bit tame, but I think with a little snap from the ginger and warmth from the cinnamon, that could be a very festive libation indeed. Because I am an oafish male who thinks not of the future, I hadn't even considered holidays. But it would be cool to have a couple things to bring. I need to make sure my next beer is something populist and not, like, a double-IPA which I was genuinely considering. Hmmmmm. We have in the past ~4 years or so enjoyed having a beer or two late on Christmas Eve after everyone's gone to bed, and last year it was our own, I think it's a nice little tradition. The husband tends to enjoy saisons, and we're trying different styles, so it's fun.
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Post by LazBro on Nov 9, 2014 1:34:42 GMT -5
It is decided. This year's holiday beer will be an Apricot-Ginger Strong Ale. Brewing tomorrow.
In other news, I don't think my cider is carbing up like I want it to. Not the end of the world, but it does mean moving everything from bottle back to bucket, re-pitching yeast, adding a little more priming, and then (ugh) re-sanitizing and re-bottling everything. Cider's a long game anyway, so this can come after my next brew.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Nov 11, 2014 14:27:35 GMT -5
Tell me, TI, have we been Doing This Wrong?
We've now done four beers, two all-grain, two part grain, part liquid extract. With both of the extract brews, we put the extract in the initial mash pot. But now TWBE is finding suggestions that the extract should've been added to the boil instead.
Both beers tasted just fine at the end, so I feel like it might not make a huge difference, but does it? What's the difference?
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Post by LazBro on Nov 11, 2014 15:25:01 GMT -5
Tell me, TI, have we been Doing This Wrong? We've now done four beers, two all-grain, two part grain, part liquid extract. With both of the extract brews, we put the extract in the initial mash pot. But now TWBE is finding suggestions that the extract should've been added to the boil instead. Both beers tasted just fine at the end, so I feel like it might not make a huge difference, but does it? What's the difference? You've been doing this wrong, but the beers came out okay, so like you said it's probably not a huge difference. I think the main reason LME (liquid malt extract) is not added during the mash is because there is simply no reason to do it. LME has already been broken down. There's nothing left to extract, so you don't GAIN anything adding it that early. Below the boil, it's kinda just gonna sit there floating in your mash. It's probably not hurting anything, either, but here are a couple reasons why it may: 1. Mashing is an extraction process, right? And nothing is better at extracting sugar, body and flavor from grain than good clean water. Pre-saturating your solvent with sugar (LME) may make it less efficient at extraction. You may not be getting your ALL out of the grain. The difference would be less flavor, body and sugar (gravity). Your beers have been good, but they could have been subtly better in every way. Again, maybe. I doubt you've been adding enough LME to the mash tun to truly impact the mash dramatically. 2. Some brewers recommend waiting for late boil to add the majority of the LME and DME, because those are just fancy names for sugar, and sugar caramelizes. Boiling LME for 60 full minutes will inevitably result in at least some of it taking on some caramel. The result? Darker beer and a very slight caramel flavor. If you're brewing a porter, then no one will notice. If you're brewing an IPA or a pale? Well, the point is that every little thing matters. It does need to be sterile, though, so a rule of thumb I've read is to add 20% of your LME at 10 minutes in to the boil, and then add the remaining 80% at 45 minutes in to the boil. Me personally? I dole out my sugars over the course of the boil, being sure to have everything in by 45 minutes in. This is not because I'm trying to avoid caramelization, but because I tend to make BIG beers with LOTS of sugar, and if I add everything at once I'll stifle my boil, and that's bad for hops. My strong ale I made on Sunday, for example, had the mash, 5 lbs of LME, a pound of DME, a pound of brown sugar, and some molasses in it. That a lot to get in there, so I added it slowly over the course of 45 minutes from the start of the boil so I never hosed my temp. In conclusion: big difference? No. But still, don't do it.
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Post by LazBro on Nov 11, 2014 15:26:51 GMT -5
In other news, my cider is slowly, very slowly, showing signs of carb. I knew it would take longer with the staggering ABV (10.2%), but sheesh. Anyway, I may not have to re-do everything after all. Watching it closely.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Nov 11, 2014 16:31:13 GMT -5
Thanks, LazBro. I thought about it and figured it was something like that. Mentally I think were just like, "well, it's part of the malt, it should go in with the malt, right?" But your explanation makes sense. Our next one will be a saison, so we'll definitely wait on the LME till the boil.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Nov 13, 2014 9:00:51 GMT -5
I realized LazBro that it's not liquid - it's dry malt extract. That probably makes no difference at all, but I wanted to note it for specificity's sake.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Nov 17, 2014 9:05:24 GMT -5
Okay so we brewed yesterday. And Wilford Brimley Explosion!!!!! added a bit of belgian candi sugar at the end. And now the fermenter is going *crazy*. I think this is gonna be a high ABV. We also had our first boil-over, when we added the DME, and now the front burner on my stove won't light. I'm maybe gonna take a hairdryer to it later. (We really need a new range...)
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Post by LazBro on Nov 17, 2014 9:15:31 GMT -5
Congrats on the brew. At least you're working on gas (right?). At my old house we had the glass flat-top electric cooktop, which if you're not familiar take about a century to cool off. BAD FOR BREWING. Whenever my wort would threaten boil-over, all I could do was lift the pot off the burner and hold it until it settled. On gas I can at least adjust my flame a little until it calms down and eventually find a sweet spot.
Hey, when are y'all adding the flavoring to your saison? The ginger and cinnamon? When are y'all putting it in, or maybe you added during brew?
Despite plenty of malt extract, my Strong Ale from a couple weeks back never really got very frothy in the pot. Anyway, we racked yesterday and I took the gravity. Sitting around 8.4% ABV right now. Might go up a little, but it was pretty still so I'm thinking that's where I'll land. Bottles in two weeks.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Nov 17, 2014 9:25:37 GMT -5
Congrats on the brew. At least you're working on gas (right?). At my old house we had the glass flat-top electric cooktop, which if you're not familiar take about a century to cool off. BAD FOR BREWING. Whenever my wort would threaten boil-over, all I could do was lift the pot off the burner and hold it until it settled. On gas I can at least adjust my flame a little until it calms down and eventually find a sweet spot. Hey, when are y'all adding the flavoring to your saison? The ginger and cinnamon? When are y'all putting it in, or maybe you added during brew? Despite plenty of malt extract, my Strong Ale from a couple weeks back never really got very frothy in the pot. Anyway, we racked yesterday and I took the gravity. Sitting around 8.4% ABV right now. Might go up a little, but it was pretty still so I'm thinking that's where I'll land. Bottles in two weeks. Yes, gas, which is why the flame went out when it boiled over. Boo. But I do like having a gas stove in general. We added the ginger and cinnamon later in the boil (ginger 20 mins in, cinnamon 40 in), and filtered it out when it went into the fermenter. Smelled really good. Used candied ginger at the suggestion of the Internetz.
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Post by Pastafarian on Dec 3, 2014 23:39:25 GMT -5
Sounds delish. Any chance I could get you to post the recipe? or if it's not yours, point me in the direction of where you found it? Thanks! Introducing... Everbound (The Kindred) Coffee Porter, 7.6% ABV, bottled September 2014
Baltic porter base with a healthy volume of cold-brewed coffee added in secondary. The flavor starts life as a stout, but it wears the coffee loud and proud on the back end. It's not at the level of its inspiration - Dallas' Ascension Coffee Porter - but it's damn good and drinkable, and at "only" 7.6%, it qualifies as a session beer in this house. Brewed in honor of Mrs. Snape who loves the Ascension and all things coffee.
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Post by Pastafarian on Dec 3, 2014 23:42:00 GMT -5
Bottled my honey basil wit (It's Always Honey in Basildelphia) last week. Haven't cracked a bottle yet, but the little bit I tasted while checking the FG seemed quite tasty. I'm hoping it turns out. If so I will likely be back to brag about it.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Dec 4, 2014 9:19:06 GMT -5
We've got another few days of fermenting for our saison. Will bottle it Sunday or Monday (after we drink enough beer to have enough empty bottles... no, seriously...) It's been very busy so I expect it to turn out kinda high ABV ... all the better to tolerate extended time with the family
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Post by Pastafarian on Dec 8, 2014 11:28:57 GMT -5
Cracked my first bottle of It's Always Honey in Basildelphia, and surprised at how much head it as after only two weeks in the bottle. (On the other hand I'm now worried I could be dealing with a potential bottle bomb or two). For it being still quite young I was impressed. No off flavours, slightly sweet honey notes, grassy fresh bite from the basil. And some warm spice which is still a little too muddled with everything else for me to identify. I feel like there was some citrus in there too, but again needs time to clarify. I think this one is gonna be really good in a month or two!
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Dec 8, 2014 11:39:37 GMT -5
We bottled our Soap Poisoning Christmas Saison yesterday, and it smelled awesome. Spicy, ginger notes and some yeastyness. Looking forward to trying it in a few weeks. We managed 9 1/2 bottles out of the gallon, which is pretty good, considering the amount of yeast sediment in the fermenter. Pastafarian, yours sounds quite yummy.
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Post by Pastafarian on Dec 8, 2014 14:03:35 GMT -5
We bottled our Soap Poisoning Christmas Saison yesterday, and it smelled awesome. Spicy, ginger notes and some yeastyness. Looking forward to trying it in a few weeks. We managed 9 1/2 bottles out of the gallon, which is pretty good, considering the amount of yeast sediment in the fermenter. Pastafarian, yours sounds quite yummy. I'll let you know how it turns out. Yours sounds pretty fantastic as well, I've had it on my to do list to make a saison either in the next batch or the following one. Keep us posted on how it turns out, I'd love to try and replicate it.
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Post by LazBro on Dec 21, 2014 1:31:40 GMT -5
Sounds delish. Any chance I could get you to post the recipe? or if it's not yours, point me in the direction of where you found it? Thanks Absolutley! I used this recipe: www.brewtoad.com/recipes/coffee-porter-36I followed it as exactly as I could, and though I ended up with less than 12oz of coffee to add at secondary, what I had was a super-potent syrup that definitely got the job done. Took some time to develop, but a true coffee porter that wears the label proud. I used Starbucks Kenya blend. I love this beer so much that it's been a struggle keeping a few bottles for sharing when family is over for Christmas. Soon. So soon.
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Post by LazBro on Dec 21, 2014 1:40:51 GMT -5
Introducing... Exit Strategy of a Wrecking Ball (Diablo String Orchestra) Apricot Ginger Strong Ale, 8.5% ABV, bottled November 2014
A classic, malty strong ale bombed at secondary with fresh ginger, candied ginger and dried apricots. Faint stone fruit sings harmony to the forward heat of the ginger. This is one of my most complex beers to date, with a linger that makes it good for sipping. Just don't take too long, because the ginger grows more assertive as the beer warms. The recipe's creator notated in his brew log that the beer changed personalities over time, with the ginger stepping back and the apricot taking over. It'll be cool to taste that happen in my own bottles, but even if it doesn't, I'm really happy with this. I've got 11 liters just in time for Christmas, plus 6 12oz bottles to kick start my aging program. Finally, 'dat color!
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Post by Pastafarian on Dec 21, 2014 9:16:48 GMT -5
Sounds delish. Any chance I could get you to post the recipe? or if it's not yours, point me in the direction of where you found it? Thanks Absolutley! I used this recipe: www.brewtoad.com/recipes/coffee-porter-36I followed it as exactly as I could, and though I ended up with less than 12oz of coffee to add at secondary, what I had was a super-potent syrup that definitely got the job done. Took some time to develop, but a true coffee porter that wears the label proud. I used Starbucks Kenya blend. I love this beer so much that it's been a struggle keeping a few bottles for sharing when family is over for Christmas. Soon. So soon. Fantastic! I've lurked on Brewtoad a bit but so far haven't had the opportunity to try any of their recipes. I think yours may be my first (just gotta get through a Pale Ale and Saison I've been prepping for first.) Thanks!
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Dec 25, 2014 15:25:59 GMT -5
Our Christmas saison turned out well. A wee funk, nice ginger cinnamon notes at the end. Pretty color.
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Post by LazBro on Dec 26, 2014 9:25:54 GMT -5
Our Christmas saison turned out well. A wee funk, nice ginger cinnamon notes at the end. Pretty color. Sounds tasty, especially with that cinnamon at the end. I decided that the Snapes should join your tradition, so after Baby Snape went to bed on Christmas Eve, we stayed up by the firelight and Christmas tree and shared a beer. Specifically the Left Coast Ale Epeteios. Good times.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Dec 26, 2014 10:37:10 GMT -5
Our Christmas saison turned out well. A wee funk, nice ginger cinnamon notes at the end. Pretty color. Sounds tasty, especially with that cinnamon at the end. I decided that the Snapes should join your tradition, so after Baby Snape went to bed on Christmas Eve, we stayed up by the firelight and Christmas tree and shared a beer. Specifically the Left Coast Ale Epeteios. Good times. Yay we drank Seven Swans a Swimming on Christmas Eve. It was lovely.
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Post by LazBro on Mar 7, 2015 13:01:44 GMT -5
Ladies and gentlemen, it's about damned time. West Coast-style IPA. According to the author, it's inspired by the Russian River Blind Pig but is not a clone.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Mar 11, 2015 14:12:27 GMT -5
We haven't done anything for awhile -- about time to plan our next beer, I'd say.
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Post by LazBro on Mar 25, 2015 16:15:31 GMT -5
Bottling the IPA this weekend. I'd aimed for something more session-able, which for me means 6 to 6.5% ABV or so, but I way overshot and at last test was landing around 7.8% ABV. The Mrs. doesn't drink IPA's, so I'll have four and a half gallons or so all to myself. Won't that be fun.
In cider news, my cherry-apple cider never did carb property last year and this last week I finally got around to trying to fix the problem. Built a new starter with fresh yeast, unbottled everything and poured it back into the bucket, got a new fermentation going, primed with a fuckload of sugar, re-bottled and am now seeing good signs of carb in my test bottle. 6 months in this might work out after all. In other happy cider news, now that I have a 2nd fridge I can "cold crash" my bottles when they're properly carbed to prevent explosions, rather than having to stove top pasteurize which is a mighty pain in the ass.
(This differs from beer, because ciders are "back sweetened" or excessively sweetened at priming with the intention of stopping the in-bottle fermentation before all the sugar is gone to achieve a sweeter flavor in the glass. Otherwise it just tastes like apple-y white wine.)
And finally, since the IPA will be almost exclusively for me, I let the Mrs. declare the next brew, and she has requested a proper milk stout. Goody!
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