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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Apr 25, 2016 19:52:41 GMT -5
Of that casting list, let me cut the news down to essentials:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 22:22:39 GMT -5
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Post by Ice Cream Planet on Apr 26, 2016 7:18:59 GMT -5
Of that casting list, let me cut the news down to essentials: She is so damn adorable.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Jan 13, 2017 17:23:15 GMT -5
May 21st. 2017. That's when it begins again.
And here's a teaser.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 21, 2017 22:22:21 GMT -5
It's definitely as off-kilter and Lynchian as I wanted, after the first two episodes as one feature presentation. What a world.
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Post by Smacks on May 22, 2017 15:01:25 GMT -5
So I'm guessing I should add Showtime to my Amazon Prime, unless anyone knows a better way. I can't live without this right now.
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Post by Incense on May 22, 2017 19:42:07 GMT -5
So I'm guessing I should add Showtime to my Amazon Prime, unless anyone knows a better way. I can't live without this right now. We're in the same boat - and thanks for the reminder that I can do that.
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Post by Smacks on May 23, 2017 7:25:00 GMT -5
It was everything I could have hoped for, seriously. I'm still haunted by a few of the scenes. Probably going to binge all four episodes this week.
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 23, 2017 13:30:51 GMT -5
I loved everything except... ...whatever the fuck Michael Cera was doing.
Also; noting how the little Black Lodge glyphs floating above the winning slot machines look like RPG/FPS waypoint markers. Is Cooper inside a simulation?
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on May 25, 2017 15:01:45 GMT -5
So I'm guessing I should add Showtime to my Amazon Prime, unless anyone knows a better way. I can't live without this right now. Just did this last night. Turned out all the lights, watched the first episode. Perfect ambience for a sleepless night, and admittedly keeping said night sleepless.
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Post by Smacks on May 25, 2017 21:40:02 GMT -5
So I'm guessing I should add Showtime to my Amazon Prime, unless anyone knows a better way. I can't live without this right now. Just did this last night. Turned out all the lights, watched the first episode. Perfect ambience for a sleepless night, and admittedly keeping said night sleepless. I could not get some of those images out of my head while I was trying to sleep. It was great.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 27, 2017 6:49:13 GMT -5
So I'm guessing I should add Showtime to my Amazon Prime, unless anyone knows a better way. I can't live without this right now. Just did this last night. Turned out all the lights, watched the first episode. Perfect ambience for a sleepless night, and admittedly keeping said night sleepless. It aired here from 2 am to 4 am, which was really peak Lynch hours. It was the best late night experience I've had since seeing Beyond the Valley of the Dolls a decade ago.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on May 27, 2017 13:10:34 GMT -5
Couldn’t help myself and finished the other three episodes last night: The sequence with the concrete room and then the climbing to that rooftop with the night sky was the definition of dream-like—it really felt like it was taken from dreams I’d had, even if it actually wasn’t. I guess things like strange empty spaces and night skies are pretty universal, though.
“Fix your hearts or die” is basically how I feel about the whole world right now.
Loved everything with Albert and Gordon, and getting another glimpse at Albert’s powerful, instinctual sense of empathy and need to help and why he keeps it under such a thick carapace.
The FBI also seems less squeaky-clean this time around. Lost innocence compared to the quasi-fifties of the original?
Man, James and Bobby have aged well. Always thought young James’s face was sensitive to the point of being almost funny and Bobby just seemed like a gross teen, but damn are they fine now. Although I checked onto the AVC comments and saw some speculation that Bobby’s running a con, he seemed to me to have aged out of his youthful criminality—this is also a real thing that happens, and one of the reasons Norwegian and Swedish prisons tend not to give actual life sentences.
The Wally stuff went on too long. That said I liked the bit where he qualifies everything about his shadow—very much his parents’ child.
Interesting age stuff going on in the town in general. Deputy Beardo laughing it up about the Log Lady. The thing with Kimmy and the cell phone seems to be treated like a bad gag by a lot of people but it seemed to me to be a bit more of a sort of existential horror thing—there’s no fixity, everything’s in the wrong place. It was legitimately disturbing, and I don’t think it’s down to Kimmy being an idiot.
That said, via Kimmy, we do finally know what a David Lynch fart joke looks like. Also seems like a bit of a spoof of fan theories/watching too closely/expecting the pieces to fit together nicely.
Kyle MacLachlan’s amazing here—Showgirls kind of killed his career outside of little quirky roles, right? He’s Bob, of course, but very distinct from Silva’s cackling, free, jeans-wearing Bob. MacLachlan’s so taciturn in his evil. Then there’s of course the cautious, quietly desperate Coop stuck in the lodge. And then newborn infant “Mr. Jackpot” Coop. That he finally makes a word himself—“Hi” with that big smile—after drinking the coffee felt like a real triumph. Thumbs up!
The tulpa-Dale (Doug! Not Dougie, but Doug E., distinguished middle initial turned ridiculous!) is fascinating. The missing arm is very effectively eerie. All the surrealism’s working really well for me.
Naomi Watts! I’m also wondering whether this is some kind of alternative state, maybe because of her. In terms of pacing and mood we’re definitely close to Mulholland Drive territory.
Anyway, I did check out the AVC review and in the comments there was an old-MST3K vs, new-MST3K discussion. Never change, internet. Never change.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 28, 2017 5:01:11 GMT -5
Couldn’t help myself and finished the other three episodes last night: The sequence with the concrete room and then the climbing to that rooftop with the night sky was the definition of dream-like—it really felt like it was taken from dreams I’d had, even if it actually wasn’t. I guess things like strange empty spaces and night skies are pretty universal, though. This is the part of the four episodes that made me realise that Twin Peaks feels more like an art installation than anything I've ever seen on TV. Made me think specifically of Bjorn Melhus for reasons I can't pin down. That's exactly the term I used for it on twitter. It felt like something that was written as a joke, possibly by Mark Frost, but was then directed as existential dread.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jun 4, 2017 17:09:34 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the scheduling works for Showtime via Amazon? Is it at the same time as broadcast or is there something like a 24-hour delay?
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Jun 5, 2017 10:34:02 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the scheduling works for Showtime via Amazon? Is it at the same time as broadcast or is there something like a 24-hour delay? Same time as broadcast.
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Post by songstarliner on Jul 6, 2017 14:01:29 GMT -5
Lynch does nightmare better than anyone else. Terrifying.
This scene too: it's straight out of some of the most uncomfortable dreams I've had. I often dream about not being able to speak, or breathe, and needing desperately to say something, but it just won't come out.
The new season is just fascinating. I can't believe there are so many episodes yet to come - we haven't even reached the half-way mark.
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Post by Celebith on Jan 26, 2018 23:21:45 GMT -5
Harry Dean Stanton singing Red River Valley was surprisingly charming. He's not an amazing singer, but he sounds better than you'd expect.
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Post by Celebith on Feb 25, 2018 23:58:12 GMT -5
Finally finished it. I'm not sure where it clicked, but at some point I stopped trying to figure out what was going on and just accepted that it was 'happening'.
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Post by kitchin on Jul 18, 2018 18:03:09 GMT -5
Finally finished it. I'm not sure where it clicked, but at some point I stopped trying to figure out what was going on and just accepted that it was 'happening'. I was convinced the original two seasons of Twin Peaks had no real plan and my friends just watched it - enthusiastically - out of frustration with normal TV. Then I read an in-depth explanation of Mulholland Drive and how that one at least does make sense. So I gave Twin Peaks: the Return a go and it's really quite great. Sure Lynch has issues but he almost goes against the stereotype of "late style," which to me means a certain spaciness and "don't sweat the details" attitude in older artists. Lynch is the opposite! Well he's only 72.
One detail I saw discussed: the very long scene in the bar of sweeping up the peanut shells. Like The Straight Story! Speaking of which, he really nailed that BBQ scene in Straight Story, with the extended family, shades of this year's Sharp Objects.
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Post by kitchin on Jul 18, 2018 18:34:07 GMT -5
Well the actor is holding up better than his character did in the black lodge.
This post is really funny in retrospect.
And to go on with my intrigue at season three...
Regarding Naomi Watts, I don't want to get into a whole TV wives thing (Betty Draper, Skyler White), but weren't there tremendous resonances with Kirsten Dunst in Fargo season 2! I do think Watts's super appealing persona and her physical comedy seems to have staved off the haters - I guess they really do want a mommy wife - but Dunst's character had a lot more to admire, especially trying to get Meth Damon out of that soon-to-be-failing butcher shop and onto California, Hollywood! By the way I'm pretty sure her postcard was Hollywood, Florida, not California.
Saw other parallels with Fargo 2: the long distance drug trade, and the lack of chain stores and franchise restaurants and big box retail that really dominate small towns and cities. How influential has Stephen King been?
There's even a touching detail where Dougie watches Sunset Blvd. - on the small screen - and hears the name Gordon Cole, an epically long call-back that wakes him up. In Fargo 2 when sh*t really goes to heck, in the cabin, they watch the black and white movie Operation Eagle's Nest and its classically cut actors (Sarah Lind and Bruce Campbell). The movie doesn't trigger anything, but it's connected to the original sin against Hanzee, the closest thing to a Trinity Test in Fargo I guess. Not to mention all the alien sky stuff.
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