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Post by oppy all along on Jan 23, 2020 0:56:37 GMT -5
Well, disregard what I said about Detective Chinatown 3 earlier. Add one more to the list of fucked up things that have happened in the world lately.
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Post by MarkInTexas on Jan 24, 2020 10:53:17 GMT -5
With theaters being closed all over China this holiday weekend (which, from what I understand, is like if every American theater was shut down the week between Christmas and New Year's), it'll be interesting to see how far global totals fall.
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Jan 24, 2020 15:16:44 GMT -5
Dragon enemas. That's what everyone is taking away from Dolittle. The reviews and word of mouth on Dolittle have been brutal. They're so bad, Dolittle has a lower Rotten Tomatoes score than Cats. Rebel Wilson rips off her skin in that movie while singing. She devours screaming cockroaches with the faces of human children. And Dolittle is worse! Also, the budget for Dolittle is $175m. So yeah. It's somehow become a beloved classic, but when the original Dr. Dolittle came out in the sixties, it was one of the biggest commercial failures in film history (even before taking into account the losses on truckloads of unsold tie-in merchandise) and was absolutely hated by film critics (it stills hold the record for lowest overall critical rating of any Oscar Best Picture nominee). I see the new is continuing in its proud tradition of sucking. |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jan 24, 2020 22:21:34 GMT -5
Dragon enemas. That's what everyone is taking away from Dolittle. The reviews and word of mouth on Dolittle have been brutal. They're so bad, Dolittle has a lower Rotten Tomatoes score than Cats. Rebel Wilson rips off her skin in that movie while singing. She devours screaming cockroaches with the faces of human children. And Dolittle is worse! Also, the budget for Dolittle is $175m. So yeah. It's somehow become a beloved classic, but when the original Dr. Dolittle came out in the sixties, it was one of the biggest commercial failures in film history (even before taking into account the losses on truckloads of unsold tie-in merchandise) and was absolutely hated by film critics (it stills hold the record for lowest overall critical rating of any Oscar Best Picture nominee). I see the new is continuing in its proud tradition of sucking.
It is amazing to me that a studio greenlit this. As you say, the original in the 60s was a massive flop. And no one is nostalgic for the Eddie Murphy versions in the 90s. Why was this made? Why was it given a budget of $175M? Very weird.
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Post by oppy all along on Jan 24, 2020 22:39:47 GMT -5
It's somehow become a beloved classic, but when the original Dr. Dolittle came out in the sixties, it was one of the biggest commercial failures in film history (even before taking into account the losses on truckloads of unsold tie-in merchandise) and was absolutely hated by film critics (it stills hold the record for lowest overall critical rating of any Oscar Best Picture nominee). I see the new is continuing in its proud tradition of sucking.
It is amazing to me that a studio greenlit this. As you say, the original in the 60s was a massive flop. And no one is nostalgic for the Eddie Murphy versions in the 90s. Why was this made? Why was it given a budget of $175M? Very weird.
The legend goes that it was originally greenlit for a lower (but still insane) budget, then the studio didn't like what they saw so they went back to the drawing board with reshoots and added animated animals and fart jokes to try to appeal to a global market. The same global market that was just crippled by China having a literal actual plague. As for the 'why', I imagine something to do with the fact that Iron Man's wife's production company came to them with a movie that Iron Man agreed to be in. Provided they pay him $20 million dollars and a cut of the box office gross as well. Before profits. |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jan 24, 2020 22:55:52 GMT -5
It is amazing to me that a studio greenlit this. As you say, the original in the 60s was a massive flop. And no one is nostalgic for the Eddie Murphy versions in the 90s. Why was this made? Why was it given a budget of $175M? Very weird.
The legend goes that it was originally greenlit for a lower (but still insane) budget, then the studio didn't like what they saw so they went back to the drawing board with reshoots and added animated animals and fart jokes to try to appeal to a global market. The same global market that was just crippled by China having a literal actual plague. As for the 'why', I imagine something to do with the fact that Iron Man's wife's production company came to them with a movie that Iron Man agreed to be in. Provided they pay him $20 million dollars and a cut of the box office gross as well. Before profits. I guess?
Just make original stories! Aaaaaah!
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Jan 25, 2020 4:14:16 GMT -5
It is amazing to me that a studio greenlit this. As you say, the original in the 60s was a massive flop. And no one is nostalgic for the Eddie Murphy versions in the 90s. Why was this made? Why was it given a budget of $175M? Very weird.
The legend goes that it was originally greenlit for a lower (but still insane) budget, then the studio didn't like what they saw so they went back to the drawing board with reshoots and added animated animals and fart jokes to try to appeal to a global market. The same global market that was just crippled by China having a literal actual plague. As for the 'why', I imagine something to do with the fact that Iron Man's wife's production company came to them with a movie that Iron Man agreed to be in. Provided they pay him $20 million dollars and a cut of the box office gross as well. Before profits. It would appear Stephen Gaghan approached Robert Downey, Jr. to do the film, and the Downey agreed if Gaghan would let him play the part like the weirdest Welsh physician he could Google, William Price, to which Gaghan agreed, and, hey, presto, you got a stew goin'. |
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Jan 25, 2020 10:38:53 GMT -5
The legend goes that it was originally greenlit for a lower (but still insane) budget, then the studio didn't like what they saw so they went back to the drawing board with reshoots and added animated animals and fart jokes to try to appeal to a global market. The same global market that was just crippled by China having a literal actual plague. As for the 'why', I imagine something to do with the fact that Iron Man's wife's production company came to them with a movie that Iron Man agreed to be in. Provided they pay him $20 million dollars and a cut of the box office gross as well. Before profits. I guess?
Just make original stories! Aaaaaah!
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Post by MarkInTexas on Jan 29, 2020 17:24:49 GMT -5
Easily winning for the second weekend in a row, Bad Boys For Life took in $34 million to become the first film of 2020 to hit the century mark. Its ten-day total stands at $120.7 million. It should easily pass the final gross of Bad Boys II (which, admittedly was earned in 2003) by next weekend, and still has a strong chance of finishing above $200 million. If it does hit that mark, it will only be the second January wide release to make that much, and first that was originally released in January (American Sniper got a limited release over Christmas 2014 before going wide in January 2015).
Moving up one slot to #2, tentative Oscar frontrunner 1917 also passed $100 million over the weekend. The World War I film took in $15.9 million for a gross of $104 million. Expect minor drops over at least the next two weekends leading to Oscar night on February 9.
Moving down a slot is Dolittle, which earned $12.2 million to bring its gross to $44.4 million. Awful reviews and bloated budget aside, this is actually not a terrible number. It should pass The Judge in the next week, and is likely to be Robert Downey, Jr.'s third-highest grossing non-MCU, non-Sherlock Holmes starring vehicle, after Tropic Thunder and Due Date. I realize I'm damning the movie with faint praise, since it will lose a ton of money, but if the budget had been kept more in check, and if it had found another climax than an apparent dragon colonoscopy, it might have received much more favorable press with identical grosses.
Speaking of Will Smith and Robert Downey, Jr., Guy Ritchie, the director of Aladdin and Sherlock Holmes, returned to his forte of relatively low budgeted tough guy British crime flicks for the first time since RockNRolla in 2008 with The Gentlemen. Despite a strong cast incluidng Matthew McConaughey and Hugh Grant, American audiences were somewhat indifferent, as it opened to $10.7 million. With another action movie opening this weekend, and Birds of Prey just around the corner, The Gentlemen really needed to make a strong impression, but it does have the makings of an possible cult hit in a few years.
In fifth, Jumanji: The Next Level kept chugging away, taking in $7.7 million for a total of $283.2 million. It looks like it will finish roughly $100 million behind Welcome to the Jungle, making it a tad bit of a disappointment, but nothing that Sony is going to spend much time crying about.
Earlier this month, The Grudge got a rare F rating from CinemaScore. That feat was repeated by another horror flick, The Turning, which opened to $7 million. Given that The Grudge hasn't even doubled its opening weekend gross yet, there's a very real possibility that The Turning might not make it to $14 million.
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker crawled over the $500 million mark, taking in $5.6 million for a total of $502 million. The fact that this is a level that only 14 other movies in history have reached should be cause for celebration, but its significantly tempered by the fact that three of those films were Star Wars films released during the teens--and all of them, including Rogue One, will finish higher than Skywalker will.
Rounding out the Top 10, Little Women made $4.6 million for a total of $93.6 million. It should hit $100 million before Oscar night. Just Mercy took in $4 million for a total of $27.1 million. Knives Out likes wrapped up its long stay on the chart with $3.6 million, for a total of $151.8 million.
Outside the Top 10, the Vietnam drama The Last Full Measure, which has a surprisingly stacked cast for a film that had been knocked around the schedule before being dumped in January, opened to $1.1 million.
Studios usually don't bring out the big guns for Super Bowl weekend, and this year is no exception. Two new movies hit theaters, neither one of which seems likely to challenge Bad Boys for the top spot. The Rhythm Section is an actioner starring Blake Lively as a woman seeking revenge against the terrorists who blew up the plane her family was traveling on. It was originally supposed to be out last February, before being moved first to Thanksgiving, and now this weekend. Also opening is the Gretel & Hansel, a revisionist horror take on the fairy tale. It stars It's Sophia Lillis, and comes just a week after It's Finn Wolfhard starred in his own revisionist horror take. Of course, that was The Turning, and it remains to be seen if Gretel & Hansel will turn out any better. At any rate, expect most of the business to go to the cops from Miami ahead of the game in Miami.
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Post by oppy all along on Jan 30, 2020 4:25:21 GMT -5
Worldwide Box Office January 24-261: Bad Boys For Life / Sony Pictures, $76,011,714, $215,655,879 (=, -25%) 2: 1917 / Universal, $39,616,580, $200,639,889 (=, -18%) 3: Dolittle / Universal, $25,398,835, $90,783,565 (=. -35%) 4: Jumanji: The Next Level / Sony Pictures, $17,300,526, $737,246,326 (=, -35%) 5: The Man Standing Next / Showbox, $15,837,000, $15,857,367 (NEW) This week the big story isn't what's here, which is a bunch of holdovers and a Korean movie. It's what isn't here, which is any of the blockbusters China had lined up for the Lunar New Year. Due to the coronavirus outbreak, China's movie theatre industry has closed for business. For comparison, imagine in America that Star Wars TROS, Frozen II, Jumanji 3, Knives Out, and Bad Boys For Life had all been saved to release in the post-Christmas holiday weekend, and then every movie theatre just closed. How long will the closure go for? How many other markets will the coronavirus affect? Where will all the delayed movies go? What about the movies that other countries like America want to launch in Hollywood? How far does China go to guarantee favourable releases for their local movies in a shortened year? What will movies geared to appeal to the Chinese market (hello Mulan) do now? Shit's crazy right now. As for the movies that are still here, Bad Boys For Life opened in a bunch of new territories and held well from that. With at least one more week before any serious competition arrives it's looking good for the Dad Boys. Just think of all the nostalgia action sequels that will go ahead now because Hollywood saw one actually work. Personally I'm hoping for Face/Off II. 1917 remains very much the same as last week. Still holding well, still has a bunch of awardsmomentum, still has their eye on Feb 9 when we see if they can win Best Picture and guarantee a few more good weeks at the box office. At $200m+ it's also on its way to making back that budget, which is nice. Helluva flick. Dolittle actually holds pretty well, and has a bunch of international markets to go. If it didn't cost $175m to make then this might be considered a modest success for Universal. But it did. It cost $175 million to make. Shame it might not be able to make some of that money back in China, especially after they amped up the cost trying to make this movie more appealing to an international market. See also: Sonic the Hedgehog. Jumanji: The Next Level keeps up the crazy box office holds. Over time this has gone from 'it's okay but it's a sharp drop from the 2017 movie' to 'okay it's picking up some steam' to 'wow it's actually the better part of the way to a billion dollars and still going'. Not bad for a franchise that nobody saw coming. And in fifth place Korean movie The Man Standing Next makes it into the top five. Fun fact - Korea has the same holiday China does but they as of yet have limited cases of coronavirus. So they're good for now, pray for Nude. This particular Korean movie is a political thriller about the struggle for power taking place around President Park Chung-hee shortly before he's assassinated. Not the usual holiday fare, but Joker made a billion dollars so. The Gentlemen checks in at 6th with $13.7m, largely from its North American launch. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker has dropped out of the top 5 with $11m. This is the first time there hasn't been a Disney movie in the top 5 since mid-October 2019. There's a Fox 20th Century release in mid-February, but Disney won't be rejoining the box office properly until Pixar release Onward drops in March and kicks off their spring-summer push. Little Women (2019) made $10.2m, it's hanging in there with awards season money. Frozen II is still around, checking in with $9.6m to push past $1.4b total box office. And Spies in Disguise keeps up a solid overseas gross as well, chiming in with $8.6m. 2019 Worldwide Box Office11: Jumanji: The Next Level (+1) / Sony Pictures 12: Nezha (-1) / Enlight Media 2020 Worldwide Box Office1: Bad Boys For Life (=) / Sony Pictures, $215,655,879 2: Dolittle (=) / Universal, $90,783,565 3: Tolo Tolo (=) / Taodue, $49,315,940 4: Tanhaji: The Unsung Warrior (+1) / AA Films, $42,000,000 5: The Grudge (2020) (-1) / Sony Pictures, $40,248,284 6: Underwater (+1) / 20th Century, $33,617,430 7: The Gentlemen (+2) / STX, $33,151,884 8: Darbar (-2) / Lyca Productions, $30,000,000 9: Like a Boss (-1) / Paramount, $20,723,433 10: The Man Standing Next (NEW) / Showbox, $15,837,367 Jumanji keeps moving up the 2019 charts and pulls within striking distance of other Rock-ensemble Hobbs and Shaw, we could see a change to the top 10 next week or the week after. Joker and Star Wars are also really close to making moves at the expense of Toy Story 4 and Aladdin respectively. And in the 2020 charts we see Bad Boys For Life establishing itself as the big winner of the January doldrums, with everything else likely to get swept off the board almost instantly as the box office begins in earnest. Next week will be quiet, as American audiences stay home for the Superbowl and Chinese audiences stay home because shit is fucked right now. Hey, maybe it'll be another big weekend for The Man Standing Next. We have a couple of sacrificial lambs being given the 'well we're legally obligated to release this movie' dump in North America. Blake Lively stars in revenge thriller The Rhythm Section, which just seems like a tremendous waste of the cast. And a dark fantasy horror movie Gretel & Hansel is opening wide as well. It's like Hansel & Gretel, but this time it's the other way around. These aren't your daddy's fairy tales. Look for both of these movies to make very little money and disappear quickly.
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Post by oppy all along on Feb 4, 2020 23:00:06 GMT -5
Worldwide Box Office January 31-February 2
1: Bad Boys For Life / Sony Pictures, $48,482,959, $290,759,490 (=, -36%)
2: 1917 / Universal, $30,397,325, $248,883,624 (=, -23%)
3: Dolittle / Universal, $25,293,865, $126,512,685 (=, -0%)
4: Jumanji: The Next Level / Sony Pictures, $11,300,181, $754,817,334 (=, -35%)
5: Little Women (2019) / Sony Pictures, $10,573,922, $162,929,554 (+3, +4%)
The novel coronavirus situation in China is yet to abate, and the box office impacts are continuing to snowball. All China releases up to late February have been cancelled or delayed now, including Dolittle and Hellboy. Remember Hellboy? Just another slice of bad luck for the 2019 bomb. Sonic the Hedgehog is still holding on to a late February release, but as things continue you can see Mulan in late March and Disney nervously tugging their collar.
Also, the cost to human life and all that. That's also important.
Stop me if you've seen this top five before. Bad Boys For Life is still doing great. 1917 is still powering ahead at the box office and the awards race. Dolittle actually launched pretty well in Mexico and Germany and has a bunch of places left to go. What if Dolittle isn't a bomb? Jumanji: The Next Level is closing in on the 2019 top ten, and is the first movie since the start of 2019 to spend longer than eight weeks in the top 5.
And in fifth place it's return of the Little Women (2019). It's been quietly putting together a stellar box office run, and shows how awards and box office are linked. Is the box office derived from the awards run, or is the awards run derived from the box office? That's a little from column A and a little from column B in my opinion. The lowest grossing Best Picture nominee this year is Jojo Rabbit, and even that's sitting at a comfortable $65m worldwide gross. It's also by far the most lucrative Little Women adaptation, for what it's worth.
The Gentlemen held solidly to bring in $9.5m. Gretel and Hansel had an... okay launch, hitting $7.6m. It's doing better than The Rhythm Section. Jojo Rabbit chimes in with Best Picture money at $6.8m. Frozen II is still around, pulling ahead of Star Wars with $6.5m. And Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker continues the least triumphant billion dollar box office run ever with $6.4m.
2019 Worldwide Box Office
8: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (+1) / Walt Disney
9: Aladdin (2019) (-1) / Walt Disney
2020 Worldwide Box Office
1: Bad Boys For Life (=) / Sony Pictures, $290,759,490
2: Dolittle (=) / Universal, $126,512,685
3: Tolo Tolo (=) / Taudue, $50,654,873
4: The Gentlemen (+3) / STX, $48,239,487
5: Tanhji: The Unsung Warrior (-1) / AA Films, $46,508,539
6: The Grudge (2020) (-1) / Sony Pictures, $40,302,266
7: Underwater (-1) / 20th Century, $37,220,806
8: Darbar (=) / Lyca Productions, $30,000,000
9: The Man Standing Next (+1) / Showbox, $24,700,000
10: Like a Boss (-1) / Paramount, $23,033,476
In 2019, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker makes its way past Aladdin (2019). It's now facing a tight three-way race for 6th against Toy Story 4 and Joker. Not much changes in 2020, there's still one breakout performer who'll hold on for a while and a bunch of minnows who will be saying goodbye soon.
Next week, the big release is Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn). For brevity's sake I'll probably stick to Birds of Prey. It's projected for a $110m-$120m global launch, which would launch it up the 2020 charts pretty quickly. Thank goodness we finally have a comic book movie this year. It's not box office unless there's at least one comic book movie in the mix these days.
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Post by William T. Goat, Esq. on Feb 5, 2020 7:47:57 GMT -5
It's somehow become a beloved classic, but when the original Dr. Dolittle came out in the sixties, it was one of the biggest commercial failures in film history (even before taking into account the losses on truckloads of unsold tie-in merchandise) and was absolutely hated by film critics (it stills hold the record for lowest overall critical rating of any Oscar Best Picture nominee). I see the new is continuing in its proud tradition of sucking.
It is amazing to me that a studio greenlit this. As you say, the original in the 60s was a massive flop. And no one is nostalgic for the Eddie Murphy versions in the 90s. Why was this made? Why was it given a budget of $175M? Very weird.
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Post by MarkInTexas on Feb 5, 2020 16:21:47 GMT -5
In 2013, the zomromcom Warm Bodies had a surprisingly good opening over Super Bowl weekend, taking in $20.4 million. It would prove to be the last film to date to open well over Super Bowl weekend. Since then, the studios have treated the weekend as a dumping ground, frequently using it as the final resting place for troubled projects that seemed much cooler when they were greenlit and/or have churned through a variety of release dates. As Hollywood has also taken to positioning at least one big blockbuster to open the weekend after the game, this weekend also serves as a palate-cleaner, giving one last hurrah to January releases as well as any Christmas films still hanging around.
Already the second-biggest January release ever (first if you consider American Sniper a December release), Bad Boys For Life threepeated, taking in $17.7 million, to drive its total to $148.1 million. Its still debatable if it has enough in the tank to make it to $200 million, but it should easily top $180 million before the end of its run.
As its award haul keeps growing, 1917 came in second as it focuses its eyes on the big prize--the Academy Award for Best Picture, which will be handed out next weekend due to the unusually early Oscar ceremony. The WWI drama took in another $9.5 million for a total of $119.1 million. If it should get upset next weekend, a final gross between $140 and $150 million seems likely. If it does win, that might give it the momentum to hit $200 million itself.
Coming in third is Dolittle, which continues to do better than expected. The talking animals and talking Robert Downey Jr. family comedy earned $7.6 for a gross of $55.1 million. It looks to be heading toward a final gross of around $80 million, which would put it in the neighborhood of other January family films like Paddington.
There have been a surprisingly large number of versions of the Hansel & Gretel tale over the years, and Gretel & Hansel is one of them. The horror flick, starring Sophia Lillis as Gretel, got surprisingly solid reviews, but after 3 other horror movies since New Year's, didn't find much of an audience. Gretel opened to $6.2 million, or a bit less than the much-more-panned The Turning opened to last weekend.
Jumanji: The Next Level continued to be a strong performer, earning $6 million to bring its total to $291.2 million, and it should hit $300 million in the next week or two. The Gentlemen slipped to $5.6 million for a ten-day total of $20 million.
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker brought in $3.2 million for a gross of $507.1 million. Little Women will need a few more days to hit the century mark, taking in $3.1 million for a gross of $98.8 million. Horror flop The Turning predictably fell the most of any film in the Top 10, taking in $3 million for a ten-day gross of $11.7 million.
Opening disastrously in 10th was The Rhythm Section. The action thriller, starring a glammed-down, almost unrecognizable Blake Lively, was completely unable to get past the poor reviews, the nondescript title, and the generic plot. Even with a solid supporting cast (Jude Law, Sterling K. Brown), Section laid claim to the worst ever opening for a film debuting in more than 3,000 theaters. It took in $2.7 million, coming in about $0.7 million below the 2006 opening of the kids film Hoot, the prior holder of the record. For another look about just how bad this is, it finished less than $0.2 million above Knives Out, which has been out since Thanksgiving and was playing on roughly half the number of screens. If you want to see The Rhythm Section, you'd better hurry, since it will likely be down to one show a day at most multiplexes come Friday.
As I said, the weekend after the Super Bowl has become a blockbuster launchpad. This week's sole new release is (deep breath) Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn). Margot Robie's Harley, aka the one thing about Suicide Squad anyone liked, has dumped the Joker and teams up with three Gotham City crimefighters to take down a crime lord. Birds follows in the tradition of Deadpool, Logan, and Joker as an R-rated comic book movie, and if the grosses of Deadpool, Logan, and Joker are any indication, Birds of Prey should do just fine as well. Expect an easy #1 opening of at least $50 million.
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Post by MarkInTexas on Feb 12, 2020 16:21:55 GMT -5
For years, Hollywood assumed the answer to the question "Would people go see a comic book movie centered around a woman?" was "No". Then, when they finally made a couple, the combined over $800 million gross of Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel proved that the answer was decidedly "Yes". Unfortunately, in Hollywood, you're only as successful as your last movie, particularly if you're a female, which is why there is serious concern about the significant underperformance of Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn), which opened to only $33 million.
To be honest, this is one of the more baffling flops in quite some time. Reviews were solid, and Hollywood cleared the deck for this one, not only not opening anything directly against it, but also largely opening lower budgeted genre fare and dumps the last couple of weekends in order to ensure a huge opening. Then it comes in with an opening that's almost identical to the opening of Dark Phoenix.
There is an upside. The reviews and word of mouth should ensure that Birds of Prey has longer legs (or wings) than Phoenix did, not to mention that competition in February is much lighter than that of June. Warner Bros. is not giving up, as evidenced by the much publicized name change to Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey (I'm assuming that this is for marketing purposes, and the much longer original title is still the title onscreen). Still, this is a movie that was greenlit with the hope it would make at least $200 million. Instead, it's going to be a minor miracle if it gets to $100 million.
After topping the charts for three weeks, Bad Boys for Life fell to #2, taking in $12 million. Its total now stands at $166.3 million, and the buddy cop action comedy still has a decent shot of cracking $200 million before the end of its run.
1917's weekend ended with a huge disappointment, as it got upset for Best Picture at the Oscars. But before the final envelope was opened late Sunday night, it had another excellent weekend, only dipping by less than 3% from the weekend before, as it took in another $9.2 million for a gross of $132.8 million. 1917 did earn three Oscars, but they were all technical awards, and it seems unlikely that people who hadn't seen it yet will now turn out because of the Cinematography Oscar. Still, this looks to be heading to a very nice final gross of around $160 to $170 million.
Dolittle continues to chug along, as the family comedy brought in $6.5 million for a total of $63.8 million. The fact that it's done so decently despite the withering reviews is probably a testament to both the star power of Robert Downey, Jr. and to the lack of family options at the multiplexes right now. We'll see what happens to its grosses this weekend now that there's some PG-rated competition opening.
In fifth is Jumanji: The Next Level, which, like its predecessor, has the strongest legs of any wide December release. In its ninth weekend, it took in $5.6 million, for a total of $298.5 million. It should hit $300 million before next weekend, and could make it north of $310 million before the end of its run. The Gentlemen came in sixth, with $4.2 million, and while the film isn't a particularly big hit, it should be profitable, as its gross hits $26.9 million.
Gretel and Hansel held up pretty well for a horror film, but it still dropped over 40% from last weekend, to $3.6 million, for a ten-day total of $11.6 million. It is unlikely to make it to $20 million.
Little Women, which would win the Costumes Oscar on Sunday night, hit the $100 million mark just before the weekend, becoming the fifth of this year's Best Picture nominees to hit that mark. That's the most since six nominees passed that mark in 2012. The film took in $2.4 million to bring its gross to $102.7 million.
Rounding out the Top 10, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker brought in $2.3 million for a total of $510.6 million. Knives Out, which fell out of the Top 10 last weekend, rose back in its 11th weekend. The whodunit brought in $2.3 million for a total of $158.9 million.
Just outside the Top 10, unexpected Best Picture winner Parasite had a nice lift in its grosses, making $1.6 million for a gross of $35.6 million. At various points during the fall, the South Korean class comedy/drama/thriller threatened to break into the Top 10, but was never quite able to get over the hump. It currently stands as the 12th-highest grossing film ever to never crack the Top 10, and 4th-highest grossing if you exclude the IMAX films. Now that it has 4 Oscars, including the biggest prize of the night, it might finally hit the Top 10 in its 19th weekend in theaters. However, it's not out of the question that it could see a jump in its total gross and still be on the outside looking in, as four new movies crowd into the nation's multiplexes in time for both Valentine's Day and the four-day Presidents' Day weekend.
The biggest newcomer is likely to be Sonic the Hedgehog, a (mostly) live-action adaption of the video game/cartoon/comic. This was supposed to be out at Thanksgivng, but was postponed after the horrified reaction to the original Sonic design in the first trailer. The newly re-designed Sonic (who does look much cuter) has to go on the run--literally and figuratively--with new friend James Marsdon, as they're being chased by the evil Dr. Robotnik, played with over-the-top relish by Jim Carrey. The comic actor hasn't had a $100 million hit in over a decade now, and could really use this being a smash. Estimates are that it will open somewhere in the $40-50 million range. Also out is the African-American aimed romantic drama The Photograph, starring up-and-comers Issa Rae and LaKeith Stanfield, the horror flick Fantasy Island, which reimagines the cheesy 70s series into something much more sinister, and Downhill, which, despite starring Will Ferrell and Julia Louis-Dreyfus, is being positioned as more of a comedic drama, as the SNL vets play a married couple whose relationship starts to unravel after he abandons her and their family and runs away when he thinks they're about to be hit by an avalanche. We'll see if Sonic can outrace expectations this weekend.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 12, 2020 23:26:16 GMT -5
Parasite bumped to 4th place on Monday & Tuesday. Guess the Oscar bump is still alive.
In glancing at Monday's and Tuesday's chart, I see that on Tuesday "Knives Out" outgrossed Star Wars TROS. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Also, TROS is now $14 million behind where Rogue One was at this time. And $113 million behind Last Jedi.
Knives Out has grossed a combined $300 million off a $40 million budget. Lionsgate is probably begging Rian Johnson to produce that rumored sequel.
As for Birds of Prey.... maybe the R-rating is actually hurting the box office chances? It also got a B+ Cinemascore on Opening Night, which isn't that great for a fan-driven sequel. I don't know. My friends who saw it said they really liked it. But, maybe the violence level is actually deterring audiences.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Feb 13, 2020 10:10:37 GMT -5
As for Birds of Prey.... maybe the R-rating is actually hurting the box office chances? It also got a B+ Cinemascore on Opening Night, which isn't that great for a fan-driven sequel. I don't know. My friends who saw it said they really liked it. But, maybe the violence level is actually deterring audiences. I think the thing hurting it the most was that the ad campaign made it look like a sequel to Suicide Squad, and almost everyone hated Suicide Squad. |
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Feb 13, 2020 10:15:26 GMT -5
But, maybe the violence level is actually deterring audiences. So... cut all the Chad Stahelski-directed action footage, then, and see what results from that? |
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Feb 13, 2020 22:06:28 GMT -5
As for Birds of Prey.... maybe the R-rating is actually hurting the box office chances? It also got a B+ Cinemascore on Opening Night, which isn't that great for a fan-driven sequel. I don't know. My friends who saw it said they really liked it. But, maybe the violence level is actually deterring audiences. I think the thing hurting it the most was that the ad campaign made it look like a sequel to Suicide Squad, and almost everyone hated Suicide Squad. Maybe they should have run ads "NOW WITH 100% FEWER JAREDS LETO"? |
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Post by oppy all along on Feb 14, 2020 4:29:25 GMT -5
Worldwide Box Office for February 7-9
1: Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) / Warner Bros., $81,010,017, $81,010,017 (NEW)
2: Bad Boys For Life / Sony Pictures, $27,811,355, $336,333,562 (-1, -43%)
3: Dolittle / Universal, $25,334,580, $158,534,565 (=, +0%)
4: 1917 / Universal, $24,436,350, $287,579,259 (-2, -20%)
5: Jumanji: The Next Level / Sony Pictures, $8,856,679, $768,487,090 (-1, -22%)
First, a China update. Shit is still fucked. And in much less important news all February movies including Sonic have now had their China release date delayed. And indications are that the coronavirus/Covid-19 is beginning to depress box office in countries other than China. Chemists here have had to place signs prominently in front of their shops saying they're out of surgical masks. The panic over an impending plague has been a pleasant respite from the panic over impending bushfires burning the city to the ground, and the panic over impending flashfloods drowning the city.
In conclusion we're all going to die. Back to the movie news!
Behold, for you are in the presence of one with the reverse Midas touch. A month or two ago I claimed I was sick of supporting losing candidates and now supported Joe Biden in the Democratic primary. Then he bombed in Iowa and New Hampshire and his campaign is practically on life support. And last week I said that Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) is possibly my favourite comic book movie of all time and fucking excellent, and that has flopped on arrival like Mike Bloomberg's pitch to African-American voters. Despite being (in my opinion) the very peak of cinema, Birds of Prey has been unable to stop-and-frisk the worldwide box office. Although if you believe the movie Harley's a Bernie voter so at least she has something to be happy about.
Is it the name? I like the name but sometimes if your movie is about a horse in a war you have to name the thing War Horse so audiences get it. I asked my aunt if she wanted to see Birds of Prey, she asked which movie was that, and I had to explain it was the Harley Quinn one. Audiences are often not paying enough attention for creative names. Is it the rating? R18 does decrease your potential audience significantly. Suicide Squad made a lot of money as a PG-13 movie and that movie was shit. Is it because the movie departs too drastically from the source material? No. It's never that. I don't care how much you love comic books, the actual comic book market is shrinking every day and is not relevant to the box office. I'm talking to you, person who says the movie bombed because Black Canary is different in the movie than she is in the comics. Fucking nerd.
Also, there have been viral tweets in support of Birds of Prey saying that since the movie budget is around $85m the movie has already made back its budget. I wish that was how it worked, but it is not. At all. Same with saying that Birds of Prey is the #1 movie worldwide, which, yeah, but major studios stagger their releases so two big movies are rarely in direct competition. I wish all these people being blindly optimistic about the box office of Harley Quinn were correct but they are not.
Oh, right, there are other movies. Bad Boys For Life drops out of the top position after a very respectable three weeks and is a bonafide box office hit. It's maybe even a smash. The success of the Dad Boys is even more pronounced with how much the global box office has been rocked by the zombie plague. Between this and Aladdin I think Will Smith has gotten the message to avoid original movies and stick to rebooting 90s franchises. Aladdin 2 is in development and everything.
Dolittle is another example of my reverse Midas touch - I made fun of it for bombing, and now it's held steady at $25.3m for three weekends straight. If this movie was budgeted at what you'd expect a family friendly Dolittle reboot to be budgeted at, this would be a solid return. Robert Downey Jr is getting his cut of the box office revenue before the movie makes its money back. So he made everyone watch him fist a dragon's arsehole and made fucking bank from it.
1917 disappointed at the Oscars, insofar as winning three Oscars can be counted as a disappointment. The expected wins for Best Director and Best Picture never materialised, which could possibly soften any Oscars bump 1917 was expected to receive. It still holds strongly to hit $287m worldwide though, and has reached the point where it makes back its surprisingly large budget. So you know, not too bad.
And Jumanji: The Next Level is still in the top 5. That's ten weeks now. It has been a borderline miraculous series of holds that probably wouldn't have been possible without China shutting down for three weeks now. Regardless, Jumanji powered its way to claim the last spot in the 2019 worldwide top 10 and virtually guaranteed we'll be seeing The Rock shout JUMANJIIIIIIIIIII for years to come.
Little Women (2019) also missed the major awards at the Oscars despite being fancied for Best Adapted Screenplay. It still has a strong box office run to its name though, scoring $8.1m this weekend. The Gentlemen is still keeping steady and added $7.9m to its haul. Jojo Rabbit, which actually did win Best Adapted Screenplay, racking up $5.8m. Parasite is back in the charts after first appearing in late May, making $4.7m. Given Parasite's success at the Oscars we may be seeing it again, though we don't really know how the Oscar bump translates to a Korean language film when the Asian box office is currently being squashed by fear of the plague. Americans really hate reading. And Gretel and Hansel is back, outperforming projections to just finish above Korean movie The Closet with $4.2m. This is probably the last anyone will hear about good ol' Gretel and Hansel. But it was a... run. Of sorts.
2019 Worldwide Box Office
1: Avengers: Endgame (=) / Walt Disney, $2,797,800,564
2: The Lion King (2019) (=) / Walt Disney, $1,656,313,097
3: Frozen II (=) / Walt Disney, $1,431,751,098
4: Spider-Man: Far From Home (=) / Sony Pictures, $1,131,927,996
5: Captain Marvel (=) / Walt Disney, $1,129,729,839
6: Toy Story 4 (=) / Walt Disney, $1,073,394,813
7: Joker (=) / Warner Bros., $1,071,907,134
8: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (=) / Walt Disney, $1,060,370,192
9: Aladdin (2019) (=) / Walt Disney, $1,050,959,216
10: Jumanji: The Next Level (NEW) / Sony Pictures, $768,487,090
2020 Worldwide Box Office
1: Bad Boys For Life (=) / Sony Pictures, $336,333,562
2: Dolittle (=) / Universal, $158,534,565
3: Birds of Prey (And the Fabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (NEW) / Warner Bros., $81,010,017
4: The Gentlemen (=) / STX, $60,387,472
5: Tolo Tolo (-2) / TaoDue, $50,776,481
6: Tanhaji: The Unsung Warrior (-1) / AA Films, $49,000,000
7: The Grudge (2020) (-1) / Sony Pictures, $43,166,765
8: Underwater (-1) / 20th Century, $39,018,625
9: The Man Standing Next (=) / Showbox, $31,348,919
10: Darbar (-2) / Lyca Productions, $30,000,000
Here's a full update for the 2019 list, as everything has probably settled where they're going to end up in the history books. Frozen II definitely doesn't have the juice to overtake The Lion King; Joker and Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker are still in a slow motion collision but neither of them seem to have the required levels of juice either; and it would take another few months of insane holds for Jumanji: The Next Level to climb past the billion dollar mark and up towards Aladdin. So everything is likely set.
The early 2020 movies keep scrapping as well, waiting for the heavy hitters to come and wash them away. It's nice we have a time of the year where we talk about Underwater. That was apparently solid for a horror movie that was shelved for years and had TJ Miller as the male lead. I'll be happy when I'm no longer trying to track Indian movies though. Somehow I doubt Darbar is at exactly $30m USD.
We have a few debuts and expansions this weekend, which in America is Presidents Day and Valentines Day. Sonic the Hedgehog has been redesigned and is apparently less horrifying now; Blumhouse is releasing another horror movie made on a shoestring budget with a Fantasy Island remake; Universal has a well-reviewed African-American romantic drama called The Photograph looking to make that Valentines Day money; and Parasite is expanding to 2000 screens across America to capitalise on the 'oh shit Bong Joon-Ho won all the Oscars' buzz.
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Post by MarkInTexas on Feb 19, 2020 15:23:24 GMT -5
A movie based on the old video game Sonic the Hedgehog seemed like an odd idea this day and age, some twenty-odd years after the character's heyday. Worries about the film grew when a teaser poster was released in late 2018, showing an outline of Sonic with legs that seemed more at home on Usain Bolt than on a cartoon animal. Then, the film's first trailer hit a few months later, and the world was collectively horrified by the Sonic present in the trailer, who looked less like the video game character and more like a weird blue humanoid complete with a mouth full of human teeth. Amazingly, Paramount took the widespread criticism to heart and announced that there would be a wholesale redesign of Sonic before the movie came out, an action that ultimately required the film to be pushed back three months, from November to February.
That turned out to be a wise move. When the first trailer with the new and improved Sonic arrived, audiences were much more complimentary. And now that the film itself has arrived, it easily outraced all expectations to open over the 4-day President's Day weekend to a whopping $70 million, easily taking #1 by a wide margin, and already 2020's third-highest grossing film, trailing only Bad Boys for Life and, by less than $2 million, fellow talking animal family comedy Dolittle. It also easily beat out the opening for Pokemon Detective Pikachu from last May to be the best opening for a video game-inspired film ever. When it hits $100 million, probably sometime next weekend, it will be Jim Carrey's first $100 million grosser since A Christmas Carol in 2009, and his first live-action $100 million grosser since Fun With Dick and Jane in 2005. It will also bring an end to a awful streak by Paramount, which hasn't had a $100 million grosser since Bumblebee. On top of all that, it is one the best-reviewed video game movie of all time, in that critics actually seemed to like it (only Detective Pikachu and The Angry Birds Movie 2 have higher Rotten Tomatoes scores).
Coming in second is a film that was expected to be taking the path that Sonic is taking. Instead, Birds of Prey (And the Superlong Title I'm Not Going to Bother Checking) earned $19.7 million, for an 11-day total of $61.9 million. To be fair, this is a OK two-week total given what it opened to, but it's still a long way to $100 million for Harley Quinn.
Opening in third was the low-budget horror thriller Fantasy Island. The remake of the old TV show did all right business, opening to $13.8 million over the four days. Being a horror title, it will likely sink fast and finish around $30 million at best, but it will still be profitable.
Just behind it in fourth was another newcomer, The Photograph. The romantic drama was strong on Friday, which was Valentine's Day, but faded quite a bit as the weekend went on, for a four-day total of $13.3 million. It should have better legs than Fantasy Island, but it likely is also heading toward a final gross in the $30 million neighborhood.
Bad Boys For Life, which for now remains the highest-grossing film of 2020, came in 5th with $13.1 million. Its gross is up to $183.1 million. It should cross $200 million in the next few weeks.
Best Picture loser 1917 wasn't badly hurt by being upset, as it came in with $9.4 million, upping its total to $145.8 million. Another 2019 film still hanging around the Top 10, Jumanji: The Next Level celebrated its 10th week on the chart by passing $300 million. The film took in $6.8 million for a total of $306.8 million.
In its 19th week in American theaters, Best Picture winner Parasite finally made the Top 10, picking up $6.6 million for a total of $44.3 million. It is currently the fourth-biggest grossing non-English language movie in US history, and with the final grosses of #3 Hero and #2 Life is Beautiful less than $13 million away, it seems highly likely that Parasite will pass them both in the coming weeks. It is highly unlikely, however, to be cable to catch #1 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, which remains the one non-English language film to pass $100 million at the domestic box office.
Despite the opening of Sonic, Dolittle did pretty decent business, taking in $6.1 million for a gross of $71.6 million. It should pass $80 million in the next few weeks.
Despite the star power of Will Ferrell and Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the newly rechristened Searchlight Pictures seemed to go out of its way to avoid promoting Downhill, its new dramady about a married couple whose relationship unravels after he seems to abandon her and their kids to an avalanche. Audiences took the studio up on its apathy, as the film opened to only $5.1 million. The people who did go see it hated it, as it scored a D on Cinemascore. That's not quite The Grudge bad, and its box office isn't quite Rhythm Section bad, but still, this is pretty bad. It seems likely to finish as Ferrell's worst-grossing wide release since at least The Ladies Man. At least the two stars seemed to have a lot of fun promoting the film.
Two new films go wide this weekend. Likely to finish second behind Sonic is the latest remake of Jack London's The Call of the Wild, about a domestic dog at the turn of the last century that gets sent off to the Yukon and falls in with a crusty but good-hearted prospector, played by Harrison Ford. Also opening is yet another cheap horror film (the sixth of the year, even though its only the 8th weekend), Brahms: The Boy II. The first Boy was an unexpected success four years ago, grossing $35.8 million, but hasn't exactly lingered in the public imagination. We'll see if this one can overachieve as well, and if Sonic can race pass $100 million, this coming weekend.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 20, 2020 1:07:23 GMT -5
Star Wars: TROS is now over $100 million behind TLJ.
It is also now $14.2 million behind Rogue One. And I just got an email notification from Disney today listing a DVD/Blu-Ray release in March. Don't know if that means they are removing it from theaters before that date. If so, it will close in theaters earlier than TLJ or Rogue One.
I believe Parasite has now crossed $200 million Worldwide. I see one site saying it has and another saying it just under. So, it will definitely end up over $200 million. I think its budget was around $10-$15 million, so this is quite amusing and wonderful.
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Post by Nudeviking on Feb 20, 2020 3:49:16 GMT -5
Star Wars: TROS is now over $100 million behind TLJ. It is also now $14.2 million behind Rogue One. And I just got an email notification from Disney today listing a DVD/Blu-Ray release in March. Don't know if that means they are removing it from theaters before that date. If so, it will close in theaters earlier than TLJ or Rogue One. I believe Parasite has now crossed $200 million Worldwide. I see one site saying it has and another saying it just under. So, it will definitely end up over $200 million. I think its budget was around $10-$15 million, so this is quite amusing and wonderful. You’re pretty spot on with budget for Parasite. One of the papers here said the budget for the film itself 13.5 billion Korean won (about $11.2 million US) or 17 billion won ($14.1 million) including marketing and distribution stuff. I’m on a phone so embedding links if a pain in the behind but here’s the link to the paper if you want to look at random Korean text about film budgets. www.hankyung.com/entertainment/article/2019060326461 |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 20, 2020 4:41:04 GMT -5
Star Wars: TROS is now over $100 million behind TLJ. It is also now $14.2 million behind Rogue One. And I just got an email notification from Disney today listing a DVD/Blu-Ray release in March. Don't know if that means they are removing it from theaters before that date. If so, it will close in theaters earlier than TLJ or Rogue One. I believe Parasite has now crossed $200 million Worldwide. I see one site saying it has and another saying it just under. So, it will definitely end up over $200 million. I think its budget was around $10-$15 million, so this is quite amusing and wonderful. You’re pretty spot on with budget for Parasite. One of the papers here said the budget for the film itself 13.5 billion Korean won (about $11.2 million US) or 17 billion won ($14.1 million) including marketing and distribution stuff. I’m on a phone so embedding links if a pain in the behind but here’s the link to the paper if you want to look at random Korean text about film budgets. www.hankyung.com/entertainment/article/2019060326461
Are they saying the marketing only added around $3 million to the budget? That would be extremely unusual, even for a smaller, independent film. And Parasite actually had a lot of marketing for a foreign film in the US market. For USA produced films the rule of thumb is that marketing usually costs an additional 50% of the production budget. So, if the production budget was $11 million, I'd expect the marketing & distribution to run around $5.5 million. Especially for a film like Parasite, that competed at several major film festivals.
I'm assuming Neon was footing the bill for the Oscar campaign. I do not know what they spent on that. I heard last year's Oscar campaign numbers, but I didn't hear this year's.
In any case, if it grossed $200+ million off that budget, whether it is $14.1 million or more like $17 million including marketing/distribution, it definitely made a huge profit. Yay! It is nice when good original movies succeed at the box office.
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Post by Nudeviking on Feb 20, 2020 4:43:41 GMT -5
You’re pretty spot on with budget for Parasite. One of the papers here said the budget for the film itself 13.5 billion Korean won (about $11.2 million US) or 17 billion won ($14.1 million) including marketing and distribution stuff. I’m on a phone so embedding links if a pain in the behind but here’s the link to the paper if you want to look at random Korean text about film budgets. www.hankyung.com/entertainment/article/2019060326461
Are they saying the marketing only added around $3 million to the budget? That would be extremely unusual, even for a smaller, independent film. And Parasite actually had a lot of marketing for a foreign film in the US market. For USA produced films the rule of thumb is that marketing usually costs an additional 50% of the production budget. So, if the production budget was $11 million, I'd expect the marketing & distribution to run around $5.5 million. Especially for a film like Parasite, that competed at several major film festivals.
I'm assuming Neon was footing the bill for the Oscar campaign. I do not know what they spent on that. I heard last year's Oscar campaign numbers, but I didn't hear this year's.
In any case, if it grossed $200+ million off that budget, whether it is $14.1 million or more like $17 million including marketing/distribution, it definitely made a huge profit. Yay! It is nice when good original movies succeed at the box office.
The article I got those numbers from was from when the movie first came out and therefore might have just been domestic marketing within Korea. Either way it made a pretty decent little profit. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Feb 20, 2020 10:28:45 GMT -5
Star Wars: TROS is now over $100 million behind TLJ. It is also now $14.2 million behind Rogue One. And I just got an email notification from Disney today listing a DVD/Blu-Ray release in March. Don't know if that means they are removing it from theaters before that date. If so, it will close in theaters earlier than TLJ or Rogue One. I believe Parasite has now crossed $200 million Worldwide. I see one site saying it has and another saying it just under. So, it will definitely end up over $200 million. I think its budget was around $10-$15 million, so this is quite amusing and wonderful. This will be the first Star Wars trilogy where the third movie didn't do better than the second movie at the box office. |
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Post by MarkInTexas on Feb 20, 2020 11:01:32 GMT -5
Star Wars: TROS is now over $100 million behind TLJ. It is also now $14.2 million behind Rogue One. And I just got an email notification from Disney today listing a DVD/Blu-Ray release in March. Don't know if that means they are removing it from theaters before that date. If so, it will close in theaters earlier than TLJ or Rogue One. These days, nearly every movie hits DVD/Blu-Ray roughly 90 days after theatrical opening, no matter how the film is performing in theaters. For example, Knives Out (to cite a film with a Star Wars connection) was in the Top 10 just last weekend, and this past weekend, it finished 12th, with a gross of $2.5 million. It's also still playing at over 1,150 theaters, most of which are first run. It'll be on DVD next Tuesday, even though it will likely be in at least a handful of first-run theaters well into March. Skywalker doesn't have anywhere near the legs of Knives Out, of course (the whodunit is probably the leggiest movie of 2019), and it's down to just under a thousand theaters, but there's no reason to think its going to completely disappear for at least a few more weeks. Looking at their other Disney titles from last year, the studio seems to officially close the films once they're down to only a couple dozen theaters with weekly box office under $30,000 (the films are likely still playing for a few weeks after that. Disney just isn't reporting the grosses anymore). That happened between 8 and 15 weeks after falling out of the Top 10. Assuming Skywalker fits that pattern, the earliest it will officially close will be early April. That could still be earlier than Last Jedi, but not dramatically so. |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 20, 2020 23:34:34 GMT -5
Star Wars: TROS is now over $100 million behind TLJ. It is also now $14.2 million behind Rogue One. And I just got an email notification from Disney today listing a DVD/Blu-Ray release in March. Don't know if that means they are removing it from theaters before that date. If so, it will close in theaters earlier than TLJ or Rogue One. These days, nearly every movie hits DVD/Blu-Ray roughly 90 days after theatrical opening, no matter how the film is performing in theaters. For example, Knives Out (to cite a film with a Star Wars connection) was in the Top 10 just last weekend, and this past weekend, it finished 12th, with a gross of $2.5 million. It's also still playing at over 1,150 theaters, most of which are first run. It'll be on DVD next Tuesday, even though it will likely be in at least a handful of first-run theaters well into March. Skywalker doesn't have anywhere near the legs of Knives Out, of course (the whodunit is probably the leggiest movie of 2019).
That's weird. "Knives Out" doesn't seem like a movie that should be generating so much business so long after it first released.
Thanks for the reminder that it is being released for home viewing soon. I can't get enough of that silly accent Daniel Craig uses. ..... Hey, maybe people going back over and over just to hear Daniel Craig's silly voice!
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Post by oppy all along on Feb 21, 2020 4:23:41 GMT -5
Worldwide Box Office for February 14-161: Sonic the Hedgehog / Paramount Pictures, $101,018,348, $113,002,074 (NEW) 2: Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) / Warner Bros., $40,172,686, $145,459,171 (-1, -50%) 3: Bad Boys For Life / Sony Pictures, $22,630,904, $370,070,504 (-1, -19%) 4: 1917 / Universal, $21,685,155, $323,860,369 (=, -11%) 5: Fantasy Island / Sony Pictures, $19,910,420, $21,534,518 (NEW) China update, everything is still closed but CNN says Covid-19 might be stabilising in China? Maybe we're not going to die soon from zombie virus? Stay tuned. Sonic the Hedgehog exploded out of the gates and Paramount is back in the game. Even without a China release (which may or may not be upcoming once China reopens for business) and depressed business in Asia. I have to say, this is not the result I was expecting when that first trailer came out and the internet rose up as one against the horrifying mutant hedgehog with calf muscles and teeth. It's also worth noting that after a long time of being complete disasters critically, the last three video game adaptations (Detective Pikachu, Angry Birds 2, and Sonic) have at the very least been Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. Hey, it's better than the Star Wars sequel trilogy managed. After a rough start, *deep breath*, Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) had an apprehensive shrug of a second week. It's not bad, but it's not making up for the opening weekend. But, you know, it has a Japan opening in March. Maybe people won't be shitting themselves about the novel coronavirus by then. Still possibly my favourite comic book movie of all the comic book movies, and you all know how much I love the MCU. Bad Boys For Life is still going, and has entrenched itself as the early 2020 chart-topper. With the way this year is going, we don't know what's going to dethrone it. Disney has a bunch of movies coming up starting March but Onward is looking soft for a Pixar movie (critics are raving, but it is a Pixar movie) and Mulan is really heavily geared to try and do well in China. Maybe it's New Mutants time to shine. 1917 is also still going. There's not really a lot to say when a movie hits the sixth week in a row with stellar holds. It's crazy that the most its dropped in any week was 24%. It's making a push to hit the top 25 of 2019 as well, just $30m until it passes Dumbo. It may not have Best Picture, but they'll always have over $300 million in box office gross. Fantasy Island is in fifth, and seems like the classic 'get the movie out as widely as possible in the first week before people realise it's terrible'. A lot of horror movies seem to follow this model. You'd think horror fans would stop going to movies during opening weekend at some point. Anyway Fantasy Island has 10% on Rotten Tomatoes and 21 on Metacritic. Parasite had a big post-Oscars weekend, growing 291% to gross $18.4m worldwide this weekend. Dolittle finally dropped after three straight weeks of holding almost completely level, but still pulled in $13.6m. With these holds a good China run could have really helped this movie, but it was sadly not to be. The Photograph debuts with $12.1m, a solid domestic opening but with no international gross to back it up. If you're looking for a reportedly beautiful romantic drama starring Issa Rae and Lakeith Stanfield this is the movie for you. The Gentlemen opened in a bunch of new markets and added $10.8m. And Little Women (2020) is still scoring some post-awards season holds as well with $8.7m. It opened big in Korea, which is hard right now what with the zombie plague. 2020 Worldwide Box Office1: Bad Boys For Life (=) / Sony Pictures, $370,070,504 2: Dolittle (=) / Universal, $182,176,610 3: Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (=) / Warner Bros., $145,459,171 4: Sonic the Hedgehog (NEW) / Paramount Pictures, $113,002,651 5: The Gentlemen (-1) / STX, $75,002,651 6: Tolo Tolo (-1) / TaoDue, $50,520,263 7: Tanhaji: The Unsung Warrior (-1) / AA Films, $50,000,000 8: The Grudge (2020) (-1) / Sony Pictures, $46,689,255 9: Underwater (-1) / 20th Century, $39,118,324 10: The Man Standing Next (-1) / Showbox, $33,768,979 Sonic the Hedgehog jumps to fourth on the worldwide chart, and will probably be in second by the time I'm doing next week's write-up. Everyone else slides down a spot, and Darbar slides right off. Go away until India provides accurate and timely box office totals for their movies in US dollars. And the same goes for you, Tanhaji. In 2019 news, right after I said "Joker probably doesn't have the legs to overtake Toy Story 4", the studio reports $3m in box office and it jumps riiiiiiight up next to Toy Story 4. So fuck me, what do I know. We'll see in a month when Warner Bros reports that it's added another $100m and has jumped to fourth. This week we have two major releases in North America - The Call of The Wild, where Harrison Ford plays with a grown man in a mocap suit for two hours because he's been phoning it in for a paycheque for the last few decades and he's not going to stop now, and Brahms: The Boy 2, which currently has... 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. I mean someone eventually has to give it a positive review right? Man it must be rough being a horror movie fan.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 21, 2020 22:35:22 GMT -5
Wow, a 0% Rotten Tomatoes rating for "The Boy 2" makes me interested in reading the reviews. Not interested enough to see the movie, though.
Edited to add: With that international number for "Parasite", it looks like it has now grossed over what "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" did in the year it was released. Not adjusted for inflation, obviously. A nice illustration of how the international box office has expanded over the last 20 years.
Parasite has been available on DVD and streaming in the US for several weeks now. What percentage of its total US box office gross is going to be earned *after* it was released on DVD/VOD? 40%? More?
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Post by oppy all along on Feb 25, 2020 6:11:24 GMT -5
Worldwide Box Office for February 21-23
1: Sonic the Hedgehog / Paramount Pictures, $64,492,294, $202,993,965 (=, -36%)
2: The Call of the Wild (2020) / 20th Century, $40,191,624, $40,191,624 (NEW)
3: Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) / Warner Bros., $16,802,003, $173,526,018 (-1, -58%)
4: Bad Boys For Life / Sony Pictures, $13,943,978, $391,159,623 (-1, -38%)
5: 1917 / Universal, $13,616,890, $347,104,359 (-1, -37%)
Coronavirus update, everything is closed and it's a lot worse than it was a week ago when it seemed like China might be stabilising we're all going to die movies are being pushed back in other countries now on to the numbers that are meaningless in the face of our impending demise.
Sonic the Hedgehog is powering ahead with a strong first week hold. The domestic hold was maybe a bit softer than you'd expect for a family movie, but Sonic opened in a bunch of new territories to make up for it. We're still waiting to see what Sonic's fate in China will be. Audience response to Sonic has generally been strong, so we might see some pretty significant legs... *shudders at the shot of Sonic with developed calf muscles*
The Call of the Wild (2020) debuted at what would be a solid clip for an adventure movie about a man and a dog except... that damn animated dog cost $125 million to make. How did anyone ever expect this movie to recoup a $125 million dollar budget? Did Fox greenlight it like "haha Disney's going to have to pay for this let's pay Harrison Ford to rub an adult man's belly". In unrelated news my aunt and grandmother have separately expressed that they'd like to see this movie with me, so I'm probably going to end up seeing the uncannily expressive dog twice.
People know there are dog actors right? You can get a real life dog to do things like fetch a paper for Harrison Ford. And it definitely costs less than $125 million.
Good news, bad news. Good news, we have a better idea of how the box office legs of Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) is going. Bad news, the legs are going poorly. A weak third-week hold puts an end to the theory that maybe people were just confused about the name and maybe once they hear it's good they'll go out and see it. You fucks spent so much money seeing Suicide Squad in theatres and now you're hanging Birds of Prey out to dry? Fuck you specifically, person reading this who didn't go see Birds of Prey in theatres. I am calling you in particular out because you suck. You... fucks.
Bad Boys For Life, still doing great. Whatever. I'm still mad about Birds of Prey. It debuted in Italy I guess. Finished second and made $1.1m USD. Yay.
1917, neck and neck with the Bad Boys. It opened in Korea but box office there is down because people are scared of the plague. Closing in on $350m worldwide and more.
Dolittle added Russia and Brazil this weekend to finish at $12.8m. It still has Japan and maybe China to go? Shame about that budget. Parasite picked up some more 'hey we won fucking Best Picture' money with $11.9m, that's sitting at $233m worldwide now. Fantasy Island dropped significantly but still managed to draw in $8.1m, enough to keep it ahead of other abysmally reviewed horror movie Brahms: The Boy II at $8.0m. And The Gentlemen is still expanding internationally and picked up $7.8m.
2020 Worldwide Box Office
1: Bad Boys For Life (=) / Sony Pictures, $391,159,623
2: Dolittle (=) / Universal, $204,194,675
3: Sonic the Hedgehog (+1) / Paramount Pictures, $202,993,965
4: Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (-1) / Warner Bros., $173,526,018
5: The Gentlemen (=) / STX, $87,528,460
6: Tanhaji: The Unsung Warrior (+1) / AA Films, $52,000,000
7: Tolo Tolo (-1) / TaoDue, $50,520,263
8: The Grudge (2020) (=) / Sony Pictures, $46,727,517
9: Underwater (=) / 20th Century, $40,241,674
10: The Call of the Wild (2020) (NEW) / 20th Century, $40,191,624
The Call of the Wild debuts on the chart and a couple of other movies move around. We'll be seeing Sonic pass into second next week, as well as The Call of the Wild moving over some of the lower items on the list. The China/global coronavirus crisis is really throwing the upcoming forecast for a loop, who knows when more movies will make the list? The Gentlemen could settle in as a solid earner for a while.
Next week is the debut of The Invisible Man, or what if we made domestic abuse and gaslighting into a horror movie. There's been some kickarse trailers and the early reviews look very positive. I am personally debating whether I'm too much of a chicken to go see it. I could ask the wife to go with me, but what if it ends up being our Marriage Story? And then she fakes her own death and turns invisible and then I have an invisible wife and it's just too much. There's also a My Hero Academia: Heroes Rising, if you're a fucking nerd. We're all going to die anyway.
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