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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 13:44:43 GMT -5
Viggo mortensen was almost cast as Jody, as much as I like Channing Tatum. I think I would prefer Viggo.
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Post by MarkInTexas on Jan 4, 2016 11:57:08 GMT -5
Viggo mortensen was almost cast as Jody, as much as I like Channing Tatum. I think I would prefer Viggo. [Spoilers] I agree. Nothing against Tatum, but I kind of felt he was, for lack of a better word, too pretty to be believable as a hardened gang leader in 1870's Wyoming. Obviously, Jody is smart and ruthless, but I still have trouble believing that Bob or Gage (or whatever their real names were) would loyally follow him. Mortensen, on the other hand, I have no problem seeing as the leader of a gang of outlaws, while still being charming and attractive enough to effortlessly flirt with Minnie. As for the rest of the film, I liked it, but didn't really love it. I kind of think Tarantino might have lavished too much time before the intermission, meaning the second half felt rather rushed. I also thought the flashback dragged on a bit too long as well, especially since we knew exactly what was going to happen. On my personal list of Tarantino's work, I'd probably put it next to last, just above Death Proof. Kurt Russel's mustache was every bit as awesome as I hoped, though. |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Jan 9, 2016 19:59:54 GMT -5
I got what I paid for - eight horrible people in a cabin in the winter spouting Tarantino dialogue and killing each other. It is more like 5 minutes longer. My guess is that Jesus Christ statue shot will not be used. No, that shot was used. IMDB says there was a conversation between Walton Goggins and Bruce Dern that was removed (which also lowered this cut's n-word count); and apparently that and the use of some alternate takes on scenes which Tarantino felt would work better in smaller theatres were the main differences. |
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Post by Ice Cream Planet on Jan 10, 2016 17:39:45 GMT -5
Just read an interview were Tarantino said Susan Atkins was partially an inspiration for Daisy Domergue.
That explains quite a bit.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Jan 11, 2016 15:43:39 GMT -5
You know, one thing I like about this film is how it uses an old Western trope - the idea of conciliation between Union and Confederate veterans found out in the West. This is usually done, as here, by finding themselves fighting a shared enemy (often Native Americans or Mexicans or the like.)
But, of course, the Union and Confederate veterans in these cases are always white, and the why of the war is never actually brought up - white brothers separated together again - the message of Birth of a Nation, where the union is explicitly to the disadvantage of black people. (And the subtext of the choice of enemy is kinda obvious here.)
But here we have a black Northerner (Samuel L. Jackson) and white Southerner (Walton Goggins) coming together, and through its treatment of Bruce Dern's character the film makes no bones about what exactly the war was about. It's reconciliation without whitewashing.
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Post by MarkInTexas on Jan 13, 2016 16:39:53 GMT -5
You know, one thing I like about this film is how it uses an old Western trope - the idea of conciliation between Union and Confederate veterans found out in the West. This is usually done, as here, by finding themselves fighting a shared enemy (often Native Americans or Mexicans or the like.) But, of course, the Union and Confederate veterans in these cases are always white, and the why of the war is never actually brought up - white brothers separated together again - the message of Birth of a Nation, where the union is explicitly to the disadvantage of black people. (And the subtext of the choice of enemy is kinda obvious here.) But here we have a black Northerner (Samuel L. Jackson) and white Southerner (Walton Goggins) coming together, and through its treatment of Bruce Dern's character the film makes no bones about what exactly the war was about. It's reconciliation without whitewashing. It's also interesting that the film plays with that trope roughly halfway through the film--when Jackson comes over to Dern with the bowl of stew. Before Jackson starts that monologue, it looks like that the two of them might be re-conciliating themselves, despite Dern's treatment of Jackson earlier in the film, and their knowledge of what each other did during the war. Obviously, it was a trap, as anyone who had ever seen a movie (especially any Tarantino movie) should have seen coming (as well as anyone who knew the title of the movie), but still...there have been probably a few people lured into a false sense of security by the cordial way the two of them were acting toward each other right before all hell broke loose. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jan 22, 2016 15:41:53 GMT -5
I liked it. Certainly it was peak Tarantino; he finally set that record for usage of the n-word he's been dreaming of. Congratulations, Quentin! There are many laugh lines, and almost as many where you feel bad for the laugh or from too much blood. I guess it was too cold for any shots of bare feet. JJL did get shot in the boot, though. Gosh that must have been a tough shoot for her, she had junk on her face for 98% of the movie. The ensemble was great, but Michael Madsen was underused. He's perfect for being slick and nasty, but it's odd to see him display loyalty. Goggins was definitely the best. Maybe after three in a row, Tarantino can make something that's not a revenge flick. I went to a 10:30 show with Lifemate and my high-school sister. Goo times were had by all, not least of which was our mocking of the hipster doofuses throughout the audience. Jesus, more movies should have an intermission. I ran out in front of most, and that was one satisfying pee-break. been 5(or 6, depending on how you view kill bill as 1 or 2 movies) in a row for revenge. Death proof is one as well. Do the opening credits to this movie count Kill Bill as one movie or two? |
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