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Post by Sanziana on Jan 24, 2016 7:07:33 GMT -5
What happened with the tarsiers? They're very cute and also they look like the offspring of Gollum and Yoda. We've got to have them.
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Post by Hippo on Jan 24, 2016 7:23:08 GMT -5
What happened with the tarsiers? They're very cute and also they look like the offspring of Gollum and Yoda. We've got to have them. Still upcoming week 22 (27/01): raccoon dogs week 23 (03/02): foxes week 24 (10/02): dolphins week 25 (17/02): emperor penguins week 26 (24/02): marmots week 27 (02/03): tarsiers week 28 (09/03): echidnas week 29 (16/03): salamanders week 30 (23/03): lemurs week 31 (30/03): snow leopards
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Post by Sanziana on Jan 24, 2016 7:35:10 GMT -5
Hippo I like what I see on that list. Snow leopards, yay!
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Post by MissBeaHaven on Jan 25, 2016 22:07:38 GMT -5
Oh, Hippo ! I wish I had been here when you made your Wolverine post! It made my friggin' day to see that when I logged in. Cheers, you
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Post by Hippo on Jan 27, 2016 1:34:26 GMT -5
This week’s animal is the oddly shaped raccoon dog. In future news, turns out I actually have enough animals to get me through season three so season four will probably be open for requests from April onwards. I'll be taking a few weeks out of fact writing once we reach snow leopards so don't go elsewhere during the hiatus.
Raccoon dogs, alternately known as manguts and tanuki, are a wild dog species native to Asia with most native to Japan and parts of China and Russia. There are also a separate group which live in Central and Eastern Europe after being introduced there though are treated as invasive there. Though the raccoon dog looks a lot like a raccoon to the point there's a 50/50 chance a picture of one will be of the other, it has no genetic similarities much like the giant panda’s relation to the red panda. They’re omnivores so will eat frogs, voles, fruit and seeds and will climb trees to feed. Interestingly, though dogs they do not bark but generally whine, mewl, growl but all in a pitch similar to that of your average housecat. Tanuki are around the size of a mid sized dog with lengths of 45~70cm and varying weights being around 3kg in the summer and 7kg in the winter, they’ll usually live for anywhere between 7-10 years. Good pet? Yes, they're still dogs so if you can find one, you take it. The reason for their population in Europe is due to their fur, they are commonly hunted for their winter coats which are dense, fluffy and offer heat insulation down to -20ºC outside. They were introduced to areas within the Soviet Union between 1928 and 1958 in order to improve their fur quality but they’re good breeders and their numbers increased quickly. They adapted so well that now that they spread across into central Europe where they're now considered an invasive species with some countries making killing them legal. Possibly due to their commonality, they’re not often kept in captivity. Within Japan, they have a specific legacy, mostly that of being shapeshifters and tricksters in folklore and remain very common within the culture.
So, some pictures? Only pictures, gifs just aren't out there for these arfaroos so rest easy Dellarigg .
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Post by haysoos on Jan 27, 2016 9:08:58 GMT -5
Oddly, considering its current Far East native range, the oldest raccoon dog fossils are from the Miocene of Europe. From about 9 million years ago to 3.4 million years ago, fossils have been found of an ancestral species in Spain, Poland, Germany and Turkey. Jaws from another species with huge molars (indicating it was probably larger in size itself) have been found in two sites in Morocco between 4 and 2 million years old. They didn't start showing up in East Asia until about 4 million years ago, and most of the species in the genus went extinct around the start of the Pleistocene 2 million years ago. In mythology, the tanuki of Japan are noted for their magical scrotums. They are often very enlarged, and are used as drums, garrottes, parachutes and other things you wouldn't typically associate with scrotums. Here is one of my favourite pictures of a tanuki, using his scrotum to smash geese out of the sky: In the dubbed version of the Ghibli film Pom Poko, the tanuki are incorrectly referred to as just raccoons throughout the film, and their scrotums as "pouches". This is yet another reason to avoid dubbed versions of Japanese anime. The real tanuki doesn't have especially large or notable testicles, so where did this characteristic of the trickster mythological version come from? It is thought that the scrotal powers of the mythological tanuki derive from the use of real tanuki scrotums in goldsmithing. The strong, yet stretchy material of their little pouch was seen as ideal for hammering gold into gold leaf. You put a nugget of gold in a tanned scrotum, and smash it with a hammer. The skin stretches out, but doesn't tear, so you can get quite a wide sheet of flattened gold. For some reason the scrotum of the raccoon dog was considered the best for this purpose. I am afraid to even think about how testing of different scrota for this characteristic occurred.
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Post by Hippo on Jan 27, 2016 9:19:44 GMT -5
In the dubbed version of the Ghibli film Pom Poko, the tanuki are incorrectly referred to as just raccoons throughout the film, and their scrotums as "pouches". This is yet another reason to avoid dubbed versions of Japanese anime. Well, you say that but do you think if they called them raccoon dogs they'd make more sense or that people would remember that distinction? No, even calling them tanuki is trouble. That whole idea of enlarged scrotums would push people far far away from it if you actually just called them that, someone was going to have their nephew watch that and he's only 9! This is coming from someone who'd never consider letting a kid watch Pom Poko sure but still... and yes, they'd watch the dubbed version because you don't read a film!
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Post by haysoos on Jan 27, 2016 10:05:52 GMT -5
In the dubbed version of the Ghibli film Pom Poko, the tanuki are incorrectly referred to as just raccoons throughout the film, and their scrotums as "pouches". This is yet another reason to avoid dubbed versions of Japanese anime. Well, you say that but do you think if they called them raccoon dogs they'd make more sense or that people would remember that distinction? No, even calling them tanuki is trouble. That whole idea of enlarged scrotums would push people far far away from it if you actually just called them that, someone was going to have their nephew watch that and he's only 9! This is coming from someone who'd never consider letting a kid watch Pom Poko sure but still... and yes, they'd watch the dubbed version because you don't read a film! Oddly, I rarely think about kids when considering the relative merits of subs vs dubs. I suppose in that situation, dubs do indeed have a purpose. I'm still pedantically opposed to calling raccoon dogs raccoons. And just about half of 9 year-olds have scrotums, so the only reason I can see in not telling them that the Pom Poko critters are using their scrotums is to keep them from pretending to use their own scrotums as drums and parachutes... Yeah, okay, I can see why you wouldn't want your 9 year-old doing that.
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Post by Hippo on Jan 27, 2016 10:10:39 GMT -5
Well, you say that but do you think if they called them raccoon dogs they'd make more sense or that people would remember that distinction? No, even calling them tanuki is trouble. That whole idea of enlarged scrotums would push people far far away from it if you actually just called them that, someone was going to have their nephew watch that and he's only 9! This is coming from someone who'd never consider letting a kid watch Pom Poko sure but still... and yes, they'd watch the dubbed version because you don't read a film! Oddly, I rarely think about kids when considering the relative merits of subs vs dubs. I suppose in that situation, dubs do indeed have a purpose. I'm still pedantically opposed to calling raccoon dogs raccoons. And just about half of 9 year-olds have scrotums, so the only reason I can see in not telling them that the Pom Poko critters are using their scrotums is to keep them from pretending to use their own scrotums as drums and parachutes... Yeah, okay, I can see why you wouldn't want your 9 year-old doing that. Oh, I just prefer dubs because the dialogue as subtitled is dry. I'm opposed to calling a raccoon dog a raccoon too it too so at least we have that. That and if you called them for what they are it'd be the only Studio Ghibli film with the dubious honour of getting an R rating.
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Post by Sanziana on Jan 27, 2016 14:19:41 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Lucan on Jan 27, 2016 17:25:23 GMT -5
Here are more ukiyo-e featuring tanuki, because woodblock prints are great and why the hell not. Those Japanese pervs. Zoanis. Really.
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Post by Hippo on Jan 27, 2016 17:29:51 GMT -5
If we're gauging on likes, we seem to like the perversion.
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Post by moimoi on Jan 27, 2016 17:43:37 GMT -5
If we're gauging on likes, we seem to like the perversion. Meh, perversion is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think 19th century hentai is pervy. I upvoted because it's imaginative and amusing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 18:22:41 GMT -5
If we're gauging on likes, we seem to like the perversion. Meh, perversion is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think 19th century hentai is pervy. I upvoted because it's imaginative and amusing. i upvoted b/c i am easily distracted by large, dangly objects. house-keys never fail to delight me also.
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Post by moimoi on Jan 31, 2016 18:10:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 8:47:15 GMT -5
have a goodun!
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Post by Hippo on Feb 3, 2016 1:22:31 GMT -5
Well done! If it's all plants with vague hints towards looking like genitalia like you're suggesting, you'll have the most success. have a goodun! I didn't but thanks.
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Post by Hippo on Feb 3, 2016 1:54:43 GMT -5
For this week's facts we turn to the fox, it doesn't say much, mostly odd noises.
Foxes! There are some 12 species of fox within the genus Vulpes, there are other species which while called foxes don't count as true foxes. The most common member is the Red Fox found in most of the Northern hemisphere and a small group classed as an invasive species in Australia. Foxes come in a variety of sizes, from the small Fennec fox which weighs 1kg and stands at 20cm tall upto the red fox and its many subspecies which stand at roughly 45cm high and weigh 10kg. For once, no species of fox is endangered. The diet of a red fox is omnivorous though most of it is made up of small rodents and birds, in the autumn months they'll usually thrive on mostly fruits, seeds and nuts. Red foxes are commonly seen as urban animals, this is true but only in Europe and areas where larger animals are not a threat. Arctic foxes generally will hunt for its prey but is often a scavenger, eating the remains of carcasses left by polar bears or wolves. Their fur is incredibly dense and insulating given their residence in the Arctic Circle, able to keep them warm down to -70C Fennecs can be found in Northern Africa in sandy locations, these little catpups are diggers who dig out their dens from the sand and have adapted well to their desert environs with a small stature, light fluffy coat and large ears mainly used for heat dissipation and hearing. Could be determined as the poodle moth of the fox family, a bit too cute to exist. The silver fox, known for its dark mottled fur, is still a red fox but with different fur colouration and has been used as have every fox species for their fur. The silver fox has been subject to domestication over several decades and have successfully bred many a tame dog-like fox so while you might not be able to get a fennec of your own, you can possibly get a red fox instead.
Hey, who's up for some pics of these odd catdog animals?
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 3, 2016 2:14:14 GMT -5
It really is remarkable how similar they look to some dogs and wolves. So many members of Canidae look so similar to each other.
People have successfully bred a domesticated fox? Vulpes Vulpes? Wow, I wonder how long that took.
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Post by Hippo on Feb 3, 2016 2:24:51 GMT -5
It really is remarkable how similar they look to some dogs and wolves. So many members of Canidae look so similar to each other. People have successfully bred a domesticated fox? Vulpes Vulpes? Wow, I wonder how long that took. Several decades, they're now available as pets if you know where to look and have the money to buy one.
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Post by Murray the Demonic Skull on Feb 3, 2016 4:17:50 GMT -5
It really is remarkable how similar they look to some dogs and wolves. So many members of Canidae look so similar to each other. People have successfully bred a domesticated fox? Vulpes Vulpes? Wow, I wonder how long that took. In Soviet Russia domesticated foxes loves YOU en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Domesticated_Red_Fox
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 8:32:49 GMT -5
this is a good spot to commemorate a retired avatar, the "photogenic fox" (with saturated color!) status: ich gebe nicht ein fuchs
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Post by haysoos on Feb 3, 2016 8:48:07 GMT -5
There are hyper-carnivorous fox fossils known from the Tibetan plateau from between 5 and 3.6 million years ago. It is thought that these guys adapted to the cold conditions there by taking on a more energy rich carnivorous lifestyle over the omnivorous habits of most foxes. These then spread out, possibly during glacial periods, to become the modern Arctic fox.
They're part of a whole cluster of cold-adapted critters that seem to have had a cradle of evolution on the Tibetan plateau, including wooly rhinoceros, snow leopards, a type of hyena with long legs for running down prey, and hunting dogs. From these has come an Out-of-Tibet theory for the evolution of these groups, much as Africa seems to have been a cradle for the evolution of hominids.
The hunting dogs seem to be ancestral to the modern dholes of southern Asia, and the painted hunting dogs of Africa - meaning these cold-adapted hyper-carnivores later adapted to warm climates as well.
The very oldest fox fossils (Vulpes)are from the late Miocene (about 7 mya) in Chad. These are also the first canid* fossils known from the Old World. Considering that previous to this the cradle of canid evolution appears to have been the American Southwest, with fossils canids going back some 35 million years, it's assumed that the foxes probably didn't spontaneously generate in Africa, but no one's sure exactly how or when they got there.
Edit: By "canid" here, I am refering to the Tribe Canini, which is the foxes, coyotes, and wolves. It does not include critters like the raccoon dog which have a longer Old World history.
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Feb 3, 2016 9:42:07 GMT -5
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Feb 3, 2016 12:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by dLᵒ on Feb 3, 2016 22:26:48 GMT -5
Foxes are very urban animals
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Post by Sanziana on Feb 4, 2016 11:33:59 GMT -5
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Post by haysoos on Feb 5, 2016 11:04:37 GMT -5
There is evidence that jumpy foxes used the Earth's magnetic field as a kind of range finder, especially when aiming for voles under snow. They are highly successful at hitting their targets when aligned about 20 degrees clockwise from due north, but are usually unsuccessful when jumping from any other direction.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Feb 5, 2016 12:57:23 GMT -5
this is a good spot to commemorate a retired avatar, the "photogenic fox" (with saturated color!) status: ich gebe nicht ein fuchs
It's the fox of wisdom. I would like to ask it its wisdom.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 13:02:10 GMT -5
this is a good spot to commemorate a retired avatar, the "photogenic fox" (with saturated color!) status: ich gebe nicht ein fuchs
It's the fox of wisdom. I would like to ask it its wisdom. well *this* fox says, "when you have tried everything, and nothing works, you know your next move."
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