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Post by Desert Dweller on Aug 28, 2016 22:16:33 GMT -5
This weeks animal is the weirdy birdy called the shoebill as requested by songstarliner ! Um, pretty sure *I* requested this one. (See: Page 9, from Dec 9, 2015) This is one of my favorite birds. It is crazy looking. It really looks like a dinosaur. Maybe even a cartoon dinosaur? The shape of its eyes, along with that crazy bill..... Wow, this is one of the most interesting-looking birds I have ever seen. I love how it really seems to be giving the death stare. The eyes of the bird really make it stand out. Also, yes, it is so big! It really is a dinosaur, though, right?
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Post by songstarliner on Aug 28, 2016 22:31:53 GMT -5
Desert Dweller I think you're right: I don't remember requesting them, buuuut then again I don't remember NOT requesting them, so I just kept quiet. At any rate, I think they are frightening and huge and amazing. I'm sorry, but THAT is a goddamned muppet.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Aug 28, 2016 23:03:04 GMT -5
Desert Dweller I think you're right: I don't remember requesting them, buuuut then again I don't remember NOT requesting them, so I just kept quiet. At any rate, I think they are frightening and huge and amazing. I'm sorry, but THAT is a goddamned muppet. No prob! Just had to point out that this bird is MY obsession. It is crazy looking! Yes! A muppet! Or like some form of CGI bird from a movie? I don't even understand how it ended up looking like this. It seems like it should be a talking CGI bird in a movie. Like, these two are just hanging out, cracking jokes, right? They have this phenomenal look which can be both goofy: And also creepy: This is no doubt one of the most captivating animals I've ever seen. And it's 5 feet tall? This bird is almost as tall as I am? What? It blows my mind that this is a real bird.
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Post by haysoos on Aug 31, 2016 16:21:42 GMT -5
Sorry I've missed the past few posts. Been crazy busy, and then I got sick (possibly related). So I'll start off with some bits about hyraxes: They aren't the smartest critters. Nor the fastest. They're not really cuddly, or agile. They don't have claws, or sabre-teeth, or any cool hidden weapons. They are amongst the most potato-shaped of all mammals, however. With their dumpy bodies, clog-like toes and put upon expressions, they remind me of old Pyrogy-ladies. I imagine if they could speak, pretty much all they'd do is "tsk" and grumble about all these new-fangled fancy animals running about and being cool. They really are kind of a living representative of some of the earliest mammal herbivores. Before the Red Queen started pushing evolutionary wars between sleek predators and nimble running herbivores, most critters kind of looked like clunky, slow dumplings. They're kind of proof that evolution doesn't strive for perfection of form. It only settles for "meh, good enough". Like most mammals, they have larger extinct relatives. Back in the Eocene (about 33-30 mya) there was Megalohyrax, found in Africa and Asia Minor. Despite the grandiose name, Megalohyrax was about the size of a tapir. As this reconstruction shows, they were hardly creatures to inspire awe and wonder:
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Post by haysoos on Aug 31, 2016 16:37:31 GMT -5
Shoebills also have a large, prehistoric relative.
The Upper Eocene Eremopezus (36-33 mya) probably hung around the Megalohyrax down in the Fayum Basin. It's only known from leg bones (and partial ones at that), so its exact systematic relationships aren't certain. It was originally classified as a ratite (like ostrich or the elephant bird of Madagascar), mostly based on size. But further finds showed that it had a more modern, flexible foot, and is likely fairly close the stork/heron/pelican base - where the shoebill also seems to fit.
So basically it was likely a huge, flightless shoebill. Probably not quite as big as an ostrich, but more like an emu or rhea in body weight, but with even longer legs. If we saw one today, it would probably be impossible to believe it wasn't a muppet.
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Post by haysoos on Aug 31, 2016 17:36:10 GMT -5
This week, Hippo is away, so I've agreed to give a shot at this week's critter. By request of Desert Dweller I present the crow! There are about 40 species of crow worldwide (not to mention the related Corvids like ravens, magpies and jackdaws). The most familiar to most would be the American crow ( Corvus brachyrhynchos) of North America and the carrion crow or rook ( Corvus corone) of Europe. They are black birds, and fairly large for a perching bird. They're about a foot long, with 3' wingspan. Among the passerines only the closely related ravens are larger. Crows are omnivorous, mostly feeding on insects, carrion, scraps of human garbage, seeds, eggs, nestlings, and even actively hunting frogs and mice. They've even been known to feed their friends. Crows are noted for their intelligence. They are one of the few birds known to make and use tools to obtain food. The crow's intelligence makes them particularly vulnerable to West Nile virus. While many bird species can get this form of viral encephalitis, when crows get it the swelling of their brain tissue is a much bigger problem, and they are more likely to die from the disease. This was useful as a sentinel warning when West Nile reached a new area, as the highly susceptible crows would start dropping like flies. Public Health and Mosquito Surveillance programs across North America used it as a tool to determine the spread of the virus after it was introduced in the early 2000s. Unfortunately many in the public, and most media outlets misunderstood the significance of the crows in West Nile programs. We still get calls to eliminate flocks of crows because they "might be carrying West Nile", or wondering why we're not still testing dead crows. The crows were the canary in the coal mine. Killing them to control West Nile would be like smashing the canary and then declaring the mine safe. More effective (although not very) would be to kill all the robins, but no one ever asks us to do that. The crow's intelligence is also evident in their capacity for play. There are few mammals that can match the mischievous cleverness of the playful crow. Baby crows defy the standard rule for birds. Usually, if a bird is beautiful and majestic as an adult, the chicks are horrific, gawky monstrosities (qv: owlet, baby parrot). If the chick is cute, usually it's the adult that's ugly or dumpy (eg. chickens, geese). Baby crows, however are as cute as the adults are cool. This was a good critter for me to take over the main entry, as I know almost nothing about crows paleontologically. The Corvid group is thought to be Australasian in origin, with their nearest relatives the birds of paradise and Australian mud nesters. The crows themselves split off in Asia during the Miocene (5-7 mya), and spread out from there.
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Post by moimoi on Aug 31, 2016 18:17:52 GMT -5
This was a fine entry, with many fine pictures and informations, about a fine animal. Great job, haysoos!
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Sept 3, 2016 10:53:50 GMT -5
Great job haysoos. That gif of the crow using metal pieces, to raise the water, to get the food was great. q
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Post by Lord Lucan on Sept 3, 2016 11:19:28 GMT -5
I had no idea crows could be that clever. And cute.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 4, 2016 2:27:07 GMT -5
I don't think I requested the crow. Is Hippo's request chart off? I definitely did request the Shoebill, but wasn't cited for that. I don't think I requested the crow. Or, did I actually request this and forget about it?
Whatever, crows are awesome. It is amazing how smart they are. I told my mom some of this information about crows once. How they drop shelled food into the street, watch the cars run it over, then wait for the green light to go get it after the shell's been broken. That is just amazing. My mother was very impressed!
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Post by Lord Lucan on Sept 4, 2016 2:51:47 GMT -5
I don't think I requested the crow. Is Hippo's request chart off? I definitely did request the Shoebill, but wasn't cited for that. I don't think I requested the crow. Or, did I actually request this and forget about it? Whatever, crows are awesome. It is amazing how smart they are. I told my mom some of this information about crows once. How they drop shelled food into the street, watch the cars run it over, then wait for the green light to go get it after the shell's been broken. That is just amazing. My mother was very impressed! Hippo's request chart is infallible!
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 4, 2016 2:55:24 GMT -5
I don't think I requested the crow. Is Hippo's request chart off? I definitely did request the Shoebill, but wasn't cited for that. I don't think I requested the crow. Or, did I actually request this and forget about it? Whatever, crows are awesome. It is amazing how smart they are. I told my mom some of this information about crows once. How they drop shelled food into the street, watch the cars run it over, then wait for the green light to go get it after the shell's been broken. That is just amazing. My mother was very impressed! Hippo's request chart is infallible! My posts on Page 9, Dec 9th, 2015 and Page 25, August 23rd say otherwise!
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Post by Hippo on Sept 4, 2016 2:56:41 GMT -5
yeah, my chart is totally fallible, I flipped the requesters apparently for these last two weeks so yeah, I screwed up.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Sept 4, 2016 3:01:25 GMT -5
I'm disillusioned.
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Post by Hippo on Sept 4, 2016 3:04:00 GMT -5
yeah, me too.
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Post by ganews on Sept 4, 2016 17:28:39 GMT -5
Fun second-hand crow story: Every year at Wifemate's natural science illustrators conference they have plenary speakers from the world of biology and naturalism. (This is where I learned the about the horror of moose ticks.) One year they hosted an academic studying crows and their intelligence. Cut to the chase: one study involved putting baby crows into a bag and shaking it so they were pretty pissed off. Turns out, when those baby crows (who were freed) grew up they taught their crow children about the guy who put daddy in a bag. Now the scientist wore a bald cap and mask the whole time he did it. A different guy, who happened to be bald, kinda-sorta resembled the mask face, and whose house was near the place where this study had been done, had a weird recurring interaction with crows. Word got back to the academic that this guy on many occasions found himself squawked at and even dive-bombed by crows near his home.
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Post by songstarliner on Sept 5, 2016 7:44:09 GMT -5
yeah, my chart is totally fallible, I flipped the requesters apparently for these last two weeks so yeah, I screwed up. It might have been me - the crow is by far my most favorite bird.
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Post by Hippo on Sept 5, 2016 7:52:25 GMT -5
yeah, my chart is totally fallible, I flipped the requesters apparently for these last two weeks so yeah, I screwed up. It might have been me - the crow is by far my most favorite bird. Yeah, it was entirely you, Desert Dweller requested the shoebill but for some reason I got you two mixed up and intended to get it right last week too. Sorry.
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Post by songstarliner on Sept 5, 2016 7:56:15 GMT -5
It might have been me - the crow is by far my most favorite bird. Yeah, it was entirely you, Desert Dweller requested the shoebill but for some reason I got you two mixed up and intended to get it right last week too. Sorry.
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Post by Hippo on Sept 7, 2016 1:58:03 GMT -5
I'm back, thanks to haysoos for filling in. This week's animal is the hyena as requested, for real this time, by songstarliner and @patrickbatman .
Hyenas are a group of four species who live in various places across Africa, the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent. The focus this week is on the spotted hyena, the largest of the species and resident to many countries in sub-Saharan Africa. These spotted kooks of the plains weigh around 45-80kg, heaviest being the females and have an average body length of 130cm. They will last around 20 years in the wild, upwards of 25 in captivity. They are also incredibly powerful in a small stock frame being able to crush bones with their jaws some 7cm in diameter and to digest the bones, hyenas are very thorough when it comes to eating. Being a strange group of animals, Hyaenidae have had a rough time of things with looking like a canine but having more to do with felines, having hind legs far shorter than front legs and generally considered in thoroughly negative terms by humans what with being hunted for medicine, considered a demon or otherwise evil or dangerous, often mocked for being "ugly" and sometimes picking off sick humans. While seemingly a scavenger, the spotted hyena is a very adept hunter and the vast majority of their feeds are kills. Their diet is all meat and mostly survive on various ungulate species. Along with their sharp senses of sight, smell and hearing, they can often chase their prey at 60km/h for long distances. Generally, they don't hunt in packs but if there are migrating prey animal packs they'll use their numbers to catch more prey. Even though the spotted hyena can't get no respect, they are not endangered and even have an urban subgroup who live within the city of Addis Ababa. Pet-wise, they're easy to tame but difficult to train and due to their strength will destroy everything.
Exceptionally lazy writing done, here's some pics.
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Post by haysoos on Sept 7, 2016 10:03:19 GMT -5
Hyenas have a very interesting and diverse fossil history. Although there are only four living species, there were a great many different Hyaenids in the past. They started off as slender, cat-like arboreal hunters - rather similar to a civet or genet - back in the Miocene of Eurasia about 22 million years ago. From there, two different lineages evolved - one lightly built, dog-like runners (very similar to jackals or coyotes), and the other powerful, robust bone crushers. The evolution of hyenas in the Old World largely mirrored the developments of the canids in North America. They spread throughout Africa, Asia and Europe, and thrived until the canids arrived across the Bering land bridge. In competition with the North American canids, the dog-like hyenas seem not to have done so well. Today, only the highly specialized aardwolf survives of that lineage. Extinct Hyaenids (Stolen from someone's Deviant Art page) Ictitherium viverrinum (12.7-5.3 mya) was about the size of a jackal. It ranged across Eurasia and Africa, and in many sites is the most common Miocene predator. Chasmaporthetes ossifragus was a species of dog-like Hyaenid that did compete and thrive against the canids. It crossed Beringia going the other direction, and became widespread in North America. Chasmoporthetes was a running hunter, more similar to a cheetah than anything else. They probably chased down mini-pronghorns and giant marmots, and went extinct about 1.5 million years ago. Pachycrocuta brevirostris (3 mya - 400,000 ya) was a giant bone-crushing hyena that probably weighed around 240 lbs. They are known from across Eurasia, and parts of Africa. At one site in Spain there is a huge assemblage of Pachycrocuta bones in a cave, indicating they lived in packs, and utilized caves for shelter. At the other end of their range in China, their remains are also found within the famous Zhoukoudian site. This was the home of the one of the first described specimens of Homo erectus, known as Peking Man. Long bones and skulls of Peking Man in the cave have cut marks and punctures that for decades have been interpreted as being made by stone tools, and thus evidence of cannibalism. More recent evidence has shown that the marks are more likely caused by the teeth of Pachycrocuta. It's interesting that Pachycrocuta went extinct right around the same time that archaic Homo sapiens starting leaving Africa and replacing Home erectus over most of its range. Adcrocuta eximia was one of the first of the bone-crushing hyenas, ranging across Europe, Asia and north Africa in the late Miocene. It did not have the cursorial running adaptations of the modern spotted and brown hyenas, with short, stocky robust limbs. So it was probably more of an obligate scavenger.
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Post by Hippo on Sept 7, 2016 10:06:37 GMT -5
I expect that post on shoebills and hyraxes at some point, haysoos.
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Post by haysoos on Sept 7, 2016 10:11:06 GMT -5
I expect that post on shoebills and hyraxes at some point, haysoos . They're short, but they're up above the crow post.
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Post by Hippo on Sept 7, 2016 10:49:21 GMT -5
I expect that post on shoebills and hyraxes at some point, haysoos . They're short, but they're up above the crow post. How long have those been there?
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Post by Logoboros on Sept 7, 2016 13:01:59 GMT -5
My favorite (shudder-inducing) spotted hyena fact: The Painful Realities of Hyena SexAs for that last line, tell me something I don't know, right, ladies? ::rimshot:: Also, historical tidbit: it's generally assumed that this unusual feature of hyena biology is the reason why various ancient cultures believed hyenas were hermaphroditic
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Post by Lord Lucan on Sept 7, 2016 17:31:57 GMT -5
'Hyaenidae have had a rough time of things with looking like a canine but having more to do with felines . . .'
You're aware of this tragic reality and yet still call them 'spotted kooks!' You did post some particularly sweet photos that make seem okay.
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Post by Hippo on Sept 13, 2016 23:51:59 GMT -5
This week's animal is the honey badger, you should care even if it don't.
Honey badgers are a species of mustelid endemic to much of Africa and the Middle East into India with 14 known subspecies. The reason it's called a honey badger derives from its love of honey and that early on in the process of taxonomically classifying them in the 1860s, they got lumped in with the badgers before being sorted into their own group. They are also known as ratels. Much like the wolverine, the honey badger is an angry fighter of an animal. It has adapted well for its purpose having incredibly thick and loose skin along with very strong legs and claws making it a difficult animal to prey upon. It is a burrower and will often make some if they cannot find other shelters. They're reasonably small at around 60-70cm in length and weighing usually between 8-12kg but can attack much larger animals. They are also capable of tool use and a few examples of their use by the honey badgers are out there. Their lifespans are pretty short being fierce fighters and around 8 years in the wild is common though this jumps up to 25 years in captivity. The majority of their diet is mostly what it can find or kill. It'll forage at any time of the day and being carnivorous they will dig to find prey underground with much of its diet being various small rodents, snakes and some birds along with honey and bee larvae. It's also not adverse to eating fruit and may even eat young honey badgers. They're not endangered, their numbers are doing pretty well and exist over enough areas for it to sustain itself. Pet-wise, obviously not a good idea to own a super bitey animal
Yet more lazy writing done, pics.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Sept 14, 2016 5:09:49 GMT -5
'Their lifespans are pretty short being fierce fighters and around 8 years in the wild is common though this jumps up to 25 years in captivity.'
The reasons are obvious, but that's still a remarkable extension.
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Sept 14, 2016 9:29:32 GMT -5
*slowly walks in....sheepishly glances at Hippo.....*
I'm...just going to leave this here.....*runs away*
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Post by haysoos on Sept 14, 2016 9:40:35 GMT -5
The earliest known honey badger fossils are from the late Miocene (about 12 mya) in Africa, but it is thought to have originated in India. All of the other Mustelids they are related to are found in central Asia. They probably wandered across the Red Sea area from Arabia just as it was starting to rift apart. The earliest fossils of Mellivora capensis itself (the modern species) are 10 million years old from the Ngorora Formation in Kenya. So these guys seemingly wandered back the other way, and are now found as far as Nepal, Pakistan and Afghanistan. In southern Pakistan, they are known as the gorpat, which means "gravedigger". Not only is this a more metal name than honey badger or ratel, "gorpat" is also fun to say. There are a lot of myths and legends about honey badgers out there. Some of them are even slightly true. The most common is that they are invincible. In the Far Cry 4 video game, they will aggressively attack the player and are virtually impossible to kill with bullets, which while not quite zoologically accurate is hilarious. While not quite supernaturally invulnerable, honey badgers are pretty tough. Their resistance to snake venom (particularly elapids, such as cobras) comes from their muscular nicotinic cholinergic receptors (nAChR) having evolved to no longer bind those toxins. Similar biochemical resistance mechanisms have also evolved in hedgehogs and pigs, and in mongoose the same receptor sites are disrupted through a different biochemical mechanism. Another common myth is that they are guided to honeybee hives by a bird known as the greater honeyguide in a symbiotic relationship. Unfortunately, the honeyguide is strictly diurnal, while honey badgers are pretty solidly nocturnal creatures. No verified instances of the birds leading honey badgers to hives have been recorded. The birds will definitely lead diurnal humans to the hives however, and have probably been doing so for millions of years. It is also claimed that honey badgers will fumigate a hive with their scent glands, incapacitating or even killing the bees. Sadly, no one has ever confirmed actual evidence of this happening. The colouration of baby cheetahs is thought to mimic a honey badger, to keep the baby cheetahs safe from predators. It's hard to say for sure if that one's true or not. They definitely do look about the right size for a honey badger, and it's plausible that some predators might hesitate before tackling a honey badger. The most pervasive modern myth about honey badgers is that they don't care. This is of course, not true.
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