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Post by haysoos on Dec 2, 2015 12:08:43 GMT -5
What's the purpose of electrolocation? Just another way to navigate underwater or does it help them find food? I wonder if that has something to do with their inability to survive outside Australia... Presumably they lay their eggs on land - what kind of shelter do they live in? Ground nests? Are they solitary or communal? Carnivorous or omnivorous? So many questions! This animal confounds me! Platypus build burrows in the banks of rivers. They spend up to 17 hours a day in the burrows, and generally come out and go straight into the water, the amount of time they spend exposed on land is minimal. Camping burrows often have their tunnel entrances underwater, and each playtpus will have up to a dozen of them scattered along their stretch of river. So they always have a shelter nearby. They also build nesting burrows, where a mother will lay her eggs and raise up to three little baby platypus. Both types of burrows are pretty small, with a tunnel leading to a single chamber that's just barely big enough for the platypus to turn around. The difficulties in transporting platypus out of Australia seems to be mostly related to their timidity. They do not take to stress well, and there are a lot of things that can stress them out, including (but not limited to): - light (they like it dark)
- heat (they have troubles with overheating, which is generally not a problem when in a burrow or underwater, but when stressed they get agitated and their body temperature increases, which can kill them - so they don't like temperatures over 25 C)
- cold (they don't like cold either, so need to be kept at over 20 C)
- being handled (they don't like it, and get very wriggly (and overheated) when handled)
- not being handled (platypus that aren't handled daily get really stressed when they are handled)
- being handled by people other than their usual handlers (they get used to individuals, but don't like meeting new folks)
- solitude (they like being able to meet other platypus every so often)
- crowds (they don't like not being able to get some alone time)
- Salmonella (platypus are prone to bacterial infections, and being stressed reduces their ability to fight infections)
- boredom (they get stressed if they don't have enough behavioural enrichment in their enclosures)
- excitement (they don't like change, and alterations in their enclosure or daily routine stress them out)
- noise (this is a big one, they really, really don't like noise, and even the sound of motors and filters in their cage can stress them out. Sudden loud noises can actually kill them instantly)
To date, there have only been two cases of platypus successfully breeding in captivity (in 1944 and 1998) - so captivity is not a useful tool in conservation of the species. Fortunately, they are not endangered in the wild.
Since earlier efforts to export platypus for display in captivity universally ended in quick deaths for the animals, it is difficult to justify trying again without demonstrating some way of countering all these issues.
Although restricted to eastern Australia now, fossilized platypus teeth 130 million years old have been found in South America (Cretaceous platypus had teeth, which are lost in the modern species).
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Post by haysoos on Dec 2, 2015 12:27:58 GMT -5
Staying down under (or as the Antipodes call it, "here") is the wombat as requested by dLᵒ because he wanted to know about their weird poop.
Being a burrowing creature, it's often subject to predation (in their case from dingoes and foxes) but like other burrowers it does have a defence in it's big ol' butt. Their butts are very tough and have cartilage within their rears and have one heck of a kick from their hind legs. One of the odd things about the wombat's super-bum shield is that the only large predators in Australia today are introduced by humans. Dingoes have only been around the continent about 5000 years. So whatever predator the bum-shield is intended to protect them from is long extinct. And speaking of extinct, up until about 50,000 years ago there were gigantic wombats in Australia. Like mega-huge, up to about 3 tons in weight, the size of a car. Diprotodons were, by a considerable margin, the largest marsupials ever known.
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Post by ganews on Dec 2, 2015 12:29:48 GMT -5
The difficulties in transporting platypus out of Australia seems to be mostly related to their timidity. They do not take to stress well, and there are a lot of things that can stress them out, including (but not limited to): - light (they like it dark)
- heat (they have troubles with overheating, which is generally not a problem when in a burrow or underwater, but when stressed they get agitated and their body temperature increases, which can kill them - so they don't like temperatures over 25 C)
- cold (they don't like cold either, so need to be kept at over 20 C)
- being handled (they don't like it, and get very wriggly (and overheated) when handled)
- not being handled (platypus that aren't handled daily get really stressed when they are handled)
- being handled by people other than their usual handlers (they get used to individuals, but don't like meeting new folks)
- solitude (they like being able to meet other platypus every so often)
- crowds (they don't like not being able to get some alone time)
- Salmonella (platypus are prone to bacterial infections, and being stressed reduces their ability to fight infections)
- boredom (they get stressed if they don't have enough behavioural enrichment in their enclosures)
- excitement (they don't like change, and alterations in their enclosure or daily routine stress them out)
- noise (this is a big one, they really, really don't like noise, and even the sound of motors and filters in their cage can stress them out. Sudden loud noises can actually kill them instantly)
The platypus is the favorite food of everything, is sexually attracted to fire, and needs constant reassurance or it will die.
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Post by heroboy on Dec 2, 2015 14:52:17 GMT -5
The difficulties in transporting platypus out of Australia seems to be mostly related to their timidity. They do not take to stress well, and there are a lot of things that can stress them out, including (but not limited to): - light (they like it dark)
- heat (they have troubles with overheating, which is generally not a problem when in a burrow or underwater, but when stressed they get agitated and their body temperature increases, which can kill them - so they don't like temperatures over 25 C)
- cold (they don't like cold either, so need to be kept at over 20 C)
- being handled (they don't like it, and get very wriggly (and overheated) when handled)
- not being handled (platypus that aren't handled daily get really stressed when they are handled)
- being handled by people other than their usual handlers (they get used to individuals, but don't like meeting new folks)
- solitude (they like being able to meet other platypus every so often)
- crowds (they don't like not being able to get some alone time)
- Salmonella (platypus are prone to bacterial infections, and being stressed reduces their ability to fight infections)
- boredom (they get stressed if they don't have enough behavioural enrichment in their enclosures)
- excitement (they don't like change, and alterations in their enclosure or daily routine stress them out)
- noise (this is a big one, they really, really don't like noise, and even the sound of motors and filters in their cage can stress them out. Sudden loud noises can actually kill them instantly)
The platypus is the favorite food of everything, is sexually attracted to fire, and needs constant reassurance or it will die. Platypuses may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds. Platypuses contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. Do not use Platypuses on concrete. Discontinue use of Platypuses if any of the following occurs: •itching •vertigo •dizziness •tingling in extremities •loss of balance or coordination •slurred speech •temporary blindness •profuse sweating •or heart palpitations. If Platypus begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head. Platypuses may stick to certain types of skin. When not in use, Platypuses should be returned to their special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves Australia of any and all liability. Ingredients of Platypuses include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space. Platypuses have been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and are being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq. Do not taunt Platypuses.
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Post by Hippo on Dec 9, 2015 2:02:02 GMT -5
This week brings to you the wonders of the pangolin, as requested by rainbowsherbert and MrsLangdonAlger ! Also as a heads up, the slots for season three's animals is now open so add your requests in today! songstarliner already bagged African wild dogs, what'll you choose to be poorly informed about?
Pangolins are a family of animals made up of eight species residing mostly in Africa and parts of Asia, every one of which is on the endangered species list. Also known as scaly anteaters, their main diet is made up of ants and termites and will generally consume 140-200g of insects a day. They can be as small as 30cm in the case of the Ground Pangolin and as long as a metre as the Giant Pangolin typically are. All pangolins are distinct by their many overlapping hard scales made of keratin and their habit of curling up as a defence mechanism. Much like their outsides, their muscled stomachs are lined internally with keratin spikes to help with digestion due to a lack of teeth. Like anteaters, they have very long tongues with with to feed with, some extending far longer than the body itself. Generally, pangolins are solitary animals and will only meet with other pangolins to reproduce. The main threat for all pangolins is mostly human with their flesh being used in some traditional medicines and considered a delicacy in parts of China and Vietnam. The high price paid for pangolin parts make it one of the most highly illegally trafficked animals on earth as well as one of the most critically endangered with no hard number on how many are in the wild. Unlike the dang giant panda who is willing itself into extinction without human help, not much is publicly known about the pangolin's plight or how understudied or endangered it truly is but efforts have been made to try and educate the public on them. They're still no panda though.
So, some more pics? To repeat from earlier, season three selections are now open, please add in your requests!
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Dec 9, 2015 8:05:57 GMT -5
OMG, they're so CUTE! Thanks for the post, Hippo!
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Post by Lord Lucan on Dec 9, 2015 8:16:26 GMT -5
So do you figure that pangolin is safe from the lion trying to eat it? Its scales should remind me strongly of something, but I'm not sure of what.
I would like to be informed about the noble beaver, please.
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Post by Hippo on Dec 9, 2015 8:24:18 GMT -5
Yep, I do, it'll probably lose a few scales but no damage from what I know. The scales might actually just remind you of the pangolin but wasn't able to put a name to it, no other animal really has scales like it unless you were thinking or a dragon or something.
Beavers are now on the list, guess it's appropriate for you to select it.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Dec 9, 2015 8:46:17 GMT -5
Yep, I do, it'll probably lose a few scales but no damage from what I know. The scales might actually just remind you of the pangolin but wasn't able to put a name to it, no other animal really has scales like it unless you were thinking or a dragon or something. Beavers are now on the list, guess it's appropriate for you to select it. It is the animal of my people. The pangolin scales remind me of a particular plant's leaves, I think, but I'm not sure which. Do you think before the lion lets the pangolin go it would roll it down a hill?
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Post by Hippo on Dec 9, 2015 9:06:01 GMT -5
Yep, I do, it'll probably lose a few scales but no damage from what I know. The scales might actually just remind you of the pangolin but wasn't able to put a name to it, no other animal really has scales like it unless you were thinking or a dragon or something. Beavers are now on the list, guess it's appropriate for you to select it. It is the animal of my people. The pangolin scales remind me of a particular plant's leaves, I think, but I'm not sure which. Do you think before the lion lets the pangolin go it would roll it down a hill? If there's a hill nearby, probably. Leaves you say, I'm no botanist so that's out of my area.
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Post by haysoos on Dec 9, 2015 10:27:27 GMT -5
Pangolins have had a strange and perplexing taxonomic history. They were originally classified with the Xenarthrans (sloths, anteaters, armadillos) mainly based on their lack of teeth. However, since the centre of biogeography of the other Xenarthrans is South America, and pangolins are found today only in Africa and Asia, that was never really satisfying.
More recently, genetic analysis has shown them to be more closely related to the Carnivores than any other living group. Although, obviously not very closely related.
The fossil history of pangolins is patchy at best. Most mammal fossils consist of teeth. It's amazing how many extinct mammal species are known only by their teeth. Usually this isn't much of a problem, as teeth are really hard (making them excellent candidates for preservation), are highly adapted to a wide range of morphologies based on the critter's diet and habitat, and show numerous tiny changes in form over time that really help classify the beasties. Not having them makes pangolins problematic from a paleontological perspective.
There are some pangolin fossils though. The earliest are from the Eocene of Europe (about 50 million years ago). There are also pangolins known from North America in the late Eocene (about 35 million years ago). So it appears pangolins may have originated in the Laurasian continent, which started breaking up at the end of the Eocene to form North America, Europe and Asia (the latter two of which then connected to Africa). The first African fossils that might be pangolins show up in the Oligocene in Egypt, so that seems to fit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 17:07:32 GMT -5
It is the animal of my people. The pangolin scales remind me of a particular plant's leaves, I think, but I'm not sure which. Do you think before the lion lets the pangolin go it would roll it down a hill? If there's a hill nearby, probably. Leaves you say, I'm no botanist so that's out of my area. pangolin: okie dokie artichokie
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Post by Lord Lucan on Dec 9, 2015 18:13:21 GMT -5
If there's a hill nearby, probably. Leaves you say, I'm no botanist so that's out of my area. pangolin: okie dokie artichokie You just won a pangolin!
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Post by Desert Dweller on Dec 9, 2015 18:59:42 GMT -5
Can we request birds? If so, I'd to request the Shoebill, simply because they look amazing in photographs. And we all come here for the photos.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 19:29:26 GMT -5
pangolin: okie dokie artichokie You just won a pangolin! thanks, Santa Lucan!
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Post by moimoi on Dec 9, 2015 23:24:38 GMT -5
This animal looks like a pokemon. Its name even sounds like a pokemon. Also, Lucan, were you thinking succulent? (I want a pokemon!)
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Post by Lord Lucan on Dec 9, 2015 23:47:20 GMT -5
moimoi I wasn't thinking of that, but I will do now, and for that you've earned a pokemon. Desert Dweller Don't underestimate the charm of Hippo's inimitable prose stylings!
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Post by Hippo on Dec 10, 2015 0:32:03 GMT -5
Artichoke, yes! At least I know when moimoi thinks it looks like a Pokemon it's because one does look like a pangolin, Sandshrew. Desert Dweller: If I can do octopodes then why not birds? The shoebill is an interesting creature so why not? It's on the list (blue footed booby is on there now because they're odd) though it does concern me nobody is here for the facts, just the pictures.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Dec 10, 2015 22:58:20 GMT -5
Artichoke, yes! At least I know when moimoi thinks it looks like a Pokemon it's because one does look like a pangolin, Sandshrew. Desert Dweller : If I can do octopodes then why not birds? The shoebill is an interesting creature so why not? It's on the list (blue footed booby is on there now because they're odd) though it does concern me nobody is here for the facts, just the pictures. Aw, it was just a joke. I do read all the facts.
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Post by Hippo on Dec 11, 2015 1:06:50 GMT -5
Artichoke, yes! At least I know when moimoi thinks it looks like a Pokemon it's because one does look like a pangolin, Sandshrew. Desert Dweller : If I can do octopodes then why not birds? The shoebill is an interesting creature so why not? It's on the list (blue footed booby is on there now because they're odd) though it does concern me nobody is here for the facts, just the pictures. Aw, it was just a joke. I do read all the facts. Oh good, thought I'd have to just set up shop in the pictures thread each week instead.
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Post by Hippo on Dec 16, 2015 3:45:00 GMT -5
It's Wednesday which means more animal facts sandwiched between pics! This week brings the wolverine as requested by MissBeaHaven and partially by Lord Lucan .
Wolverines are mustelids (same family as otters and ferrets) living mostly in the most northern ends of Canada and Europe, mostly within Russia with two subspecies representing the ones from the Old World in Russia and the ones in the New World in North America. Small personal note but I do love mustelids as my favourite animal family. Unlike almost every animal from week to week we've covered, this one isn't actually endangered and several live in ol' Canuckistania. The skunkbear is a rapacious hunter and scavenger preying on several species of mustelid and deer. Usually as an opportunist will go after smaller or weaker animals but will mostly survive on carrion usually left behind by wolves or coyotes. Though fairly small at a standing height of 35-40cm and 70-90cm long it's still a very powerful animal with very sharp claws, a powerful bite and a tough hide. While the wolverine isn't endangered and in some areas are growing their population, they are at risk of losing their usual home ranges to, yep, climate change. Somewhat unfairly... let's be honest, totally unfairly the poor wolverine in several languages has a name which basically means "glutton". It earns such a name from its ravenous looking eating habits but come on, look at that face, barely ravenous at all.
And so, we end our time with the carcajou with a few pictures and junk.
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Post by haysoos on Dec 16, 2015 11:24:36 GMT -5
WOLVERINES!!
One of my all time favourite animals. Sadly, also one of the few Canadian mammals I've never seen in the wild.
I tried to find a video of a wolverine hopping. When they're just wandering about, they will often use a bouncing gait, boinging into the air like a rambunctious tigger. It looks almost exactly like Pepe le Pew.
This was the closest I could find:
Wolverines in the wild have huge home ranges. They didn't know exactly how big until they started using GPS collars, as radio tracking was never able to keep up with them. One wolverine was tracked going from Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming, to a ridge near Pocatello, Idaho, and then back in 19 days. A round trip of 250 miles. A few days later, he wandered over to Yellowstone and back, adding another 140 miles in a week. Tracing his path, it appears at one point he went up a frozen waterfall.
The fossil record of wolverines is patchy. They show up quite a bit in Pleistocene deposits in Alaska and Yukon, but are rare across North America. They do show up as far south as the Appalachians, as well as Labrador and Newfoundland. In the Palearctic region, they've found fossil wolverines across China, Russia, and in Europe down to the Iberian penisula and southern Czechoslovakia.
An extinct wolverine, Plesiogulo was almost twice the size of the modern form! They seem somewhat abundant in China, but are also known from throughout Europe, in North America as far south as New Mexico and Texas, and 5 million years ago there was one species even known from Ethopia and South Africa.
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Post by Hippo on Dec 16, 2015 12:08:39 GMT -5
Hah, thanks haysoos, knew you'd be able to provide actual facts.
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Post by haysoos on Dec 16, 2015 12:32:18 GMT -5
Hah, thanks haysoos , knew you'd be able to provide actual facts. Your facts are great! I often have difficulty finding something to mention that you haven't already covered.
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Post by Hippo on Dec 23, 2015 0:34:32 GMT -5
It's the night before the night before Christmas so what better way to do this than to go festive with this week's animal, the reindeer. Could have done Hannukah a few weeks back but you find me one Hannukah animal, can't be done.
Reindeer are usually found, like wolverines, around the landmasses near the North Pole with habitats across northern Europe and Siberian Russia and in Canada and Alaska though are called caribou there. There are 14 subspecies of reindeer and are really big as far as deer go, going from 80cm tall at the shoulder to 150cm generally with weights ranging between 80kg upto 180kg on average. Being an ungulate, reindeer will eat leaves and grasses in summer seasons but during the winter, they mostly eat lichen which very few other ungulates can digest especially one specific type of lichen named after them. Common to both male and female reindeer are large antler racks, mostly used during the rut but during the times when they're regrowing then (reindeer lose their antlers yearly) they'll be covered in what looks like a velvet coat. That coat however is fur covering a layer of skin, the skin is threaded with blood vessels to help the growth of the antlers and eventually comes off leaving a nice red hue to the horn underneath which eventually bleaches out. Reindeer have clicky knees, this isn't due to bones but from the tendons and are considered to be a communicative method due to how far away they can be heard. This is mostly used by reindeer in order to establish dominance through frequency differences the heavier and bigger a reindeer bull is. The Arctic reindeer's eyesight is very good, almost operating like a blacklight with the capability of seeing things in the ultraviolet spectrum as glowing. Also, to deal with the Arctic winters, their eyes change from yellow in the summer to blue in the winter. Much like their eyes, reindeer hooves also change depending on the conditions. During the summer months they have soft padding under their hooves to help with rocky terrain but in winter these pads recede so they can use the harder parts of their hooves for digging into dense snow for lichen. Our connections to these creatures go way back into the paleolithic eras and have been herded and made semi-domesticated by various Arctic peoples, including the Sámi in Finland. Their meat is popular in Scandinavian countries and are still hunted by First Nation people though hard limits are placed on how many are killed. The connection between reindeer and Christmas didn't really exist until "A Visit From St. Nicholas", penned in 1823 which included a sleigh pulled by eight reindeer. Rudolph was a later addition, the little song written in 1939 for a chain of department stores and somehow solidifying the connection of reindeer and Santa that much closer together and making you notice everything you know about Christmas was defined as little as less than a century ago during the 30s, that decade has a lot to answer for when it comes to animal representations.
The Yulemastide Sloth brings gifts of gifs! Be generous this year and offer more animal suggestions, I have got exactly three so far so I need far far more.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Dec 23, 2015 0:56:01 GMT -5
It's the night before the night before Christmas so what better way to do this than to go festive with this week's animal, the reindeer. Could have done Hannukah a few weeks back but you find me one Hannukah animal, can't be done.
Reindeer, though! It's a Hippopoto-mas miracle! That's rather a nice process their antlers go through, what with the velvet and so on. If I'd known they like lichen, I'd have left that as a treat for them rather than carrots or whatever it was as a kid. And you're right to say the 1930s left us with a troubling legacy, not only of economic depression and fascism, but also of fantastical animal representations, the consequences of which I suppose we've yet to fully take stock of.
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Post by moimoi on Dec 23, 2015 0:56:42 GMT -5
Well these seem like happy, hardy animals. Good show, hippo. And for next year, can I throw in a suggestion for my spirit animal, the tortoise?
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Post by Hippo on Dec 23, 2015 0:58:32 GMT -5
Well these seem like happy, hardy animals. Good show, hippo. And for next year, can I throw in a suggestion for my spirit animal, the tortoise? You just may, moimoi!
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Post by haysoos on Dec 25, 2015 16:29:46 GMT -5
Historically, caribou were found across Canada and down into the United States, but were driven out by hunting (extirpated in Wisconsin and most of Michigan by 1840, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick around 1925-27). But paleontologically, their range was even further south. Fossils have been found in Alabama, Tennessee, and some questionable ones from Nevada and New Mexico. These likely had the same habits and habitat preferences as the modern caribou, and are used as indicators of paleoclimate in those areas at the height of glaciation.
Caribou are also known for their seasonal migrations, moving in huge numbers hundreds of kilometers to take advantage of temporary resources. These migrations were incredibly important to the various native groups that hunted the caribou, and in the NWT it is still common for kids to get the day off school to go caribou hunting when the herds arrive. The paths the caribou take are often circuitous and don't really take advantage of the easiest terrain - instead they are influenced more by the wind. As the caribou move, they prefer to face into the wind, which helps keep down the face biting by mosquitoes (which can infest the Arctic tundra in fearsome clouds).
(PS - I think photo #4 might actually be a fallow deer)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 20:02:47 GMT -5
suggested:
a partridge in a pear tree 2 turtle doves 3 french hens 4 calling birds 6 geese a-laying 7 swans a-swimming
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