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Post by oppy all along on Aug 26, 2018 18:14:17 GMT -5
On the other hand, if Thor had gone for the arm that really could have solved everything.
Ravenclaw: Well obviously you'd go for the arm. Slytherin: Yup, arm. Hufflepuff: The good of the world dictates that we must sacrifice our own morals to cut off Thanos's arm. Gryffindor: I stab him in the chest so I can see the light drain out of his eyes as he knows that I have bested him. All the other houses: NO WAIT-
*click*
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Post by Hachiman on Aug 26, 2018 21:59:25 GMT -5
I finally watched Justice League and didn't think it was a total mess. It has problems, to be sure, but I liked that the ending seemed to at least point a way for the DC movies to be a bit lighter going forward. Which I hope they follow.
This is a short version of a longer conversation I had with my friends, but I think the big difference between DC and Marvel is that while they are both superhero movies, they really tell different movies with different kinds of superheroes. DC's heroes are primarily street-level crime fighters who take on crime lords who want to rob banks and cause chaos. Even the heavy-hitter villains still do things like rob banks to fund their schemes. Their philosophies and battles are pretty cut and dry. They are all pretty much volunteer police officers/firefighters/search and rescue specialists. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's why DC should lean more into a story about how good can prevail against chaos and evil, and that both people with superpowers and regular joes can do this. One thing I really like about the DC Universe is that there are plenty of regular human heroes who are shown to have a fighting chance against the big hitters where Marvel treats its human heroes like dead-men-walking. There's an optimism inherent to the comics that anyone can be a hero as long as they put in the work and do the right thing. The movies almost completely miss this.
Marvel on the other hand, has an easier job because most of its heroes are really soldiers fighting in some sort of ongoing conflict and have a point of view to accompany that. They are all fighting for something, rather than just trying to keep the peace. Iron Man wanted to be a one-man army to stop his weapons from falling in the wrong hands. Captain America is a super-soldier. Thor and Black Panther are rulers tasked with protecting their people from outside threats. The X-Men fight for equality and against those mutants who would use their powers for domination. How many of the characters I didn't name have history as government agents? Even Ant-Man is essentially about a retired spy passing on his skills as a secret agent. Doctor Strange is part of a larger order tasked with protecting Earth from magical threats. None of these characters care much for everyday problems like stopping a mugging except for a notable few where that is their defining trait like Spider-Man and Daredevil. For the rest, that kind of stuff isn't their job unless they are in the immediate vicinity. So Marvel has the freedom to tell way more stories with way more themes than just investigation and crime-fighting and the characters are allowed more room to be individuals when off-duty because they aren't constantly scanning the police frequencies.
So I think some of the comparisons are bit unfair, since the premise of most of DC is different. Its easy to explain why someone would fight an evil army motivated by some crazy philosophy and then banter while going to get something to eat. Its harder to explain why someone would give up their entire life to fight a never-ending line of petty criminals or doing search and rescue, but its a story worth telling and telling well.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Aug 28, 2018 10:47:08 GMT -5
nah man, I’m the jerk who wants a serious answer. And I take your point, but the suit’s got all kinds of crazy lasers on it;I’m pretty sure one of them could slice through instantaneously. I don’t know anything about Thanos’ physical make-up; he might be impervious to crazy lasers. But they could’ve at least tried dismemberment. True. Random thing I'd like but will probably never get is a goofy montage of all the failed strategies Doctor Strange foresaw. "okay, in one Iron Man tries to cut off Thanos's arm with a crazy laser but only gets half an inch in before Thanos wakes up and kills us all with said crazy laser, in another one Star-Lord's plan to distract Thanos with a dance-off is spectacularly unsuccessful, in another one we successfully remove the gauntlet but then somehow Drax ends up accidentally triggering the click" You bastard. Now I have to go look, and if there isn't a whole bunch of fic like this, I may have to do it.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Aug 28, 2018 10:48:41 GMT -5
nah man, I’m the jerk who wants a serious answer. And I take your point, but the suit’s got all kinds of crazy lasers on it;I’m pretty sure one of them could slice through instantaneously. I don’t know anything about Thanos’ physical make-up; he might be impervious to crazy lasers. But they could’ve at least tried dismemberment. I feel like one of the big things that tends to separate the heroes from the villains is that the heroes, as a rule, don't generally go to limb-severing as a first option. Tell it to Wolverine, bub.
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Post by Hachiman on Aug 28, 2018 21:23:55 GMT -5
I feel like one of the big things that tends to separate the heroes from the villains is that the heroes, as a rule, don't generally go to limb-severing as a first option. Tell it to Wolverine, bub. How many of Wolverine's enemies had physical scars from being slashed or dismembered by Wolverine. I can think of at least 3. I was mad that the movie version of Stryker didn't have three scars across his face. And speaking of Wolverine and Ben Grimm, did anyone else read that comic issue in the 90's where Wolverine sliced off part of the Thing's face in a fight? The Thing was wearing a mask after that for awhile. It was brutal. Yeah, the comic book version of Wolverine didn't play around.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 29, 2018 19:26:40 GMT -5
Peter Dinklage has a movie coming out, apparently a passion project for him, where he's playing Herve Villechaize. When it was announced, a lot of people criticized him, saying he was whitewashing the role, since Herve was half-Filipino. Dinklage has finally addressed this now, and it's come out from a couple of sources that Herve wasn't actually half-Filipino, he was French/English/German/Italian, this has been confirmed by his brother, and the whole thing came from a random Wikipedia edit that nobody ever bothered to check up on.
I'm finding the whole situation kind of amusing.
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Post by William T. Goat, Esq. on Aug 29, 2018 21:31:40 GMT -5
The most disturbing and disgusting part of The Howling is when the burger is flipped much too soon and then pressed down mercilessly with a spatula. The horror! The customer said she wanted it "rare."
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 29, 2018 21:40:22 GMT -5
Tell it to Wolverine, bub. How many of Wolverine's enemies had physical scars from being slashed or dismembered by Wolverine. I can think of at least 3. I was mad that the movie version of Stryker didn't have three scars across his face. And speaking of Wolverine and Ben Grimm, did anyone else read that comic issue in the 90's where Wolverine sliced off part of the Thing's face in a fight? The Thing was wearing a mask after that for awhile. It was brutal. Yeah, the comic book version of Wolverine didn't play around. Yes I remember that comic and though my memory may be a bit hazy I also recall people continuously freaking the fuck out when the saw his face afterwards being all like, "OMG YOUR FACE BRAH!" and stuff and then he got better or something.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Aug 30, 2018 20:42:10 GMT -5
Peter Dinklage has a movie coming out, apparently a passion project for him, where he's playing Herve Villechaize. When it was announced, a lot of people criticized him, saying he was whitewashing the role, since Herve was half-Filipino. Dinklage has finally addressed this now, and it's come out from a couple of sources that Herve wasn't actually half-Filipino, he was French/English/German/Italian, this has been confirmed by his brother, and the whole thing came from a random Wikipedia edit that nobody ever bothered to check up on. I'm finding the whole situation kind of amusing. I am very amused by the internet website hypertexttransferprotocol://worldwideweb.wikipedia.organization's totally not-stilted wording of their role in the misconception.
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Post by dwarfoscar on Sept 2, 2018 17:44:46 GMT -5
Remember the year of Chastain ? Back in 2011, little-known actress Jessica Chastain appeared all of a sudden in many high profile movies ( The Help, Take Shelter, Tree of Life to name a few) and has since been regarded as one of the best actresses working today. I hereby declare 2018 to be the year of Ruth Wilson. Unless of course you're one of those people who watch the Showtime show The Affair and haven't waited until 2018 to know how great she is. You're allowed to be smug about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 19:37:48 GMT -5
Remember the year of Chastain ? Back in 2011, little-known actress Jessica Chastain appeared all of a sudden in many high profile movies ( The Help, Take Shelter, Tree of Life to name a few) and has since been regarded as one of the best actresses working today. I hereby declare 2018 to be the year of Ruth Wilson. Unless of course you're one of those people who watch the Showtime show The Affair and haven't waited until 2018 to know how great she is. You're allowed to be smug about it. She was also good in Luther, though the show itself kinda sucks overall except for her and Idris Elba.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 2, 2018 19:51:10 GMT -5
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 2, 2018 23:11:38 GMT -5
We do not need any more Happy Hogan in MCU movies. I mean, I get the point of the role he played in Homecoming, but I find him deeply annoying & I’m not a fan of Jon Favreau. Just because he kickstarted the MCU & apparently pretty much single-handedly gave RDJ’s career a new lease on life doesn’t mean I want to deal with his face.
Also do I need to state what a flat-out DICK Tony is in Homecoming? Cause he is.
(yes I’ve seen Homecoming before today; I just now felt like bitching about it)
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Post by dwarfoscar on Sept 3, 2018 13:23:41 GMT -5
You seem on the fence about wanting context or not, so I'll give you just one word : aliens.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Sept 3, 2018 20:32:30 GMT -5
Also do I need to state what a flat-out DICK Tony is in Homecoming? Cause he is. FTFY.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 6, 2018 22:44:47 GMT -5
Also do I need to state what a flat-out DICK Tony is in Homecoming? Cause he is. FTFY. I understand he’s just a total dillhole in the comics, but I’m not very comicy, & RDJ’s charm has managed to pull him out of full jackass territory for me, until Homecoming. Well that’s not entirely true. From the time he started interacting with Peter Parker, I’ve wanted to punch him in the face. PETER’S 15. HE SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING IN EUROPE WITH A BUNCH OF BATTLE-HARDENED ADULTS FFS.
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Sept 7, 2018 2:50:47 GMT -5
Ray actually saved the day by thinking of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. If they'd all really managed to "empty their head", the universe would have been consumed by Nothing.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Sept 7, 2018 5:09:36 GMT -5
I understand he’s just a total dillhole in the comics, but I’m not very comicy, & RDJ’s charm has managed to pull him out of full jackass territory for me, until Homecoming. Well that’s not entirely true. From the time he started interacting with Peter Parker, I’ve wanted to punch him in the face. PETER’S 15. HE SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING IN EUROPE WITH A BUNCH OF BATTLE-HARDENED ADULTS FFS. Oh, I guess should point out, I've never read any Iron Man comics, I just think Tony Stark the character in the MCU is a terrible person with so many deaths on his hands that he should be in prison instead of being allowed to be a billionaire superhero.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 7, 2018 5:22:57 GMT -5
I understand he’s just a total dillhole in the comics, but I’m not very comicy, & RDJ’s charm has managed to pull him out of full jackass territory for me, until Homecoming. Well that’s not entirely true. From the time he started interacting with Peter Parker, I’ve wanted to punch him in the face. PETER’S 15. HE SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING IN EUROPE WITH A BUNCH OF BATTLE-HARDENED ADULTS FFS. Oh, I guess should point out, I've never read any Iron Man comics, I just think Tony Stark the character in the MCU is a terrible person with so many deaths on his hands that he should be in prison instead of being allowed to be a billionaire superhero. Marvel's always prided itself on trying to seem more like the real world, and nothing is more real world than a billionaire who's caused numerous deaths walking around free of consequences.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Sept 7, 2018 5:35:55 GMT -5
Oh, I guess should point out, I've never read any Iron Man comics, I just think Tony Stark the character in the MCU is a terrible person with so many deaths on his hands that he should be in prison instead of being allowed to be a billionaire superhero. Marvel's always prided itself on trying to seem more like the real world, and nothing is more real world than a billionaire who's caused numerous deaths walking around free of consequences. And the other side of that coin is that nothing is more true to life than a bunch of fans obsessing over how epic that billionaire is and accepting said billionaire's dictate that only he can save us.
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Post by You Did This on Sept 18, 2018 20:38:39 GMT -5
roman Polanski is in rush hour 3 as a French police inspector and he violates chris tucker and Jackie chan
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Post by You Did This on Sept 18, 2018 20:44:01 GMT -5
its not even implied, what the fucking hell
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Post by Hachiman on Sept 18, 2018 21:38:41 GMT -5
Man, Rush Hour was such a weird series. It started fine with the first, went a bit bigger with the second, and then the third just kind of happened.
I'm not saying we need a reboot (we don't), but I am surprised that Hollywood hasn't come back to the mismatched cop action-movie. We've gotten some straight up comedies with some action, but not a lot on the action heavy front. Maybe a movie about a SWAT member teaming up with the IT guy to crack a case? The climax is the SWAT member pushing a button on an app (designed by IT guy) to stop the bad guys while the IT guy takes out more than a few henchmen down in the server room using some of the skills the SWAT guy teaches him. Cue sequels of "nerd cop who can throw a punch and action cop trying to use his brain more!"
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on Sept 19, 2018 11:50:27 GMT -5
Man, Rush Hour was such a weird series. It started fine with the first, went a bit bigger with the second, and then the third just kind of happened. I'm not saying we need a reboot (we don't), but I am surprised that Hollywood hasn't come back to the mismatched cop action-movie. We've gotten some straight up comedies with some action, but not a lot on the action heavy front. Maybe a movie about a SWAT member teaming up with the IT guy to crack a case? The climax is the SWAT member pushing a button on an app (designed by IT guy) to stop the bad guys while the IT guy takes out more than a few henchmen down in the server room using some of the skills the SWAT guy teaches him. Cue sequels of "nerd cop who can throw a punch and action cop trying to use his brain more!" There was that Rock/Kevin Heart spy(?) action comedy a few years back that was sort of like this. I could look up the title but that would involve opening a whole other browser tab... Otherwise I think the mis-matched cop genre is still happening on TV, what with all those cop + slightly-off-putting-person-with-very-specific- occupation-that-for-gives-them-some-sort-of-special-insight-into-solving-cases shows like Castle or The Mentalist or another show that is actually still on the air.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:03:25 GMT -5
Man, Rush Hour was such a weird series. It started fine with the first, went a bit bigger with the second, and then the third just kind of happened. I'm not saying we need a reboot (we don't), but I am surprised that Hollywood hasn't come back to the mismatched cop action-movie. We've gotten some straight up comedies with some action, but not a lot on the action heavy front. Maybe a movie about a SWAT member teaming up with the IT guy to crack a case? The climax is the SWAT member pushing a button on an app (designed by IT guy) to stop the bad guys while the IT guy takes out more than a few henchmen down in the server room using some of the skills the SWAT guy teaches him. Cue sequels of "nerd cop who can throw a punch and action cop trying to use his brain more!" There was that Rock/Kevin Heart spy(?) action comedy a few years back that was sort of like this. I could look up the title but that would involve opening a whole other browser tab... Otherwise I think the mis-matched cop genre is still happening on TV, what with all those cop + slightly-off-putting-person-with-very-specific- occupation-that-for-gives-them-some-sort-of-special-insight-into-solving-cases shows like Castle or The Mentalist or another show that is actually still on the air. Central Intelligence. That one was fun!
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Post by Floyd D Barber on Sept 19, 2018 22:44:49 GMT -5
Man, Rush Hour was such a weird series. It started fine with the first, went a bit bigger with the second, and then the third just kind of happened. I'm not saying we need a reboot (we don't), but I am surprised that Hollywood hasn't come back to the mismatched cop action-movie. We've gotten some straight up comedies with some action, but not a lot on the action heavy front. Maybe a movie about a SWAT member teaming up with the IT guy to crack a case? The climax is the SWAT member pushing a button on an app (designed by IT guy) to stop the bad guys while the IT guy takes out more than a few henchmen down in the server room using some of the skills the SWAT guy teaches him. Cue sequels of "nerd cop who can throw a punch and action cop trying to use his brain more!" There was that Rock/Kevin Heart spy(?) action comedy a few years back that was sort of like this. I could look up the title but that would involve opening a whole other browser tab... Otherwise I think the mis-matched cop genre is still happening on TV, what with all those cop + slightly-off-putting-person-with-very-specific- occupation-that-for-gives-them-some-sort-of-special-insight-into-solving-cases shows like Castle or The Mentalist or another show that is actually still on the air. One of the stranger movies like that, from years back, was the Gene Hackman / Dan Ackroyd oddity "Loose Cannons". While it wasn't great by any means, it had it's charms (I'm looking at you, Dom DeLouise), but mostly, it was just really, really weird.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 15:22:57 GMT -5
Trailer 2 for Ralph Breaks The Internet!
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 24, 2018 22:27:35 GMT -5
Man, no-one gets the shit kicked out them like Malcolm Reynolds.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 26, 2018 21:15:12 GMT -5
I was watching Fury Road and had a sudden image of Treetrunks as the Mother with the seeds.
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Post by Floyd D Barber on Sept 26, 2018 21:28:57 GMT -5
I was watching Fury Road and had a sudden image of Treetrunks as the Mother with the seeds. I never knew till this moment how much I wanted a "Mad Max/Adventure Time" crossover series.
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