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Post by Ben Grimm on Jun 11, 2019 7:44:20 GMT -5
I find it annoying that people are liking Keanu Reeves. Not because I think he shouldn't be liked, but because it is basically a meme at this point. There seens to be a degree of disingenuous intent to it all. It wasn't even that long ago in 2013 that most of the public saw him doing 47 Ronin as a laughing stock. People always shat all over his resume before John Wick, even though his 90s output involves a lot of great stuff and his 00s work had some roles that went overlooked. Keanu Reeves deserves to be liked for real, not just because it is the new hotness. Related thought: when did Keanu Reeves suddenly become Asian? I've heard more references to his Chinese/Polynesian ancestry in the past month than I heard in the entire decade after The Matrix. I remember hearing about it when he first showed up, but it's definitely gotten mentioned a lot lately. I wonder if it's because he's either taken or planning to take a role where someone might accuse him of whitewashing. Maybe he's playing the real Mandarin or something.
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on Jun 11, 2019 8:54:42 GMT -5
I find it annoying that people are liking Keanu Reeves. Not because I think he shouldn't be liked, but because it is basically a meme at this point. There seens to be a degree of disingenuous intent to it all. It wasn't even that long ago in 2013 that most of the public saw him doing 47 Ronin as a laughing stock. People always shat all over his resume before John Wick, even though his 90s output involves a lot of great stuff and his 00s work had some roles that went overlooked. Keanu Reeves deserves to be liked for real, not just because it is the new hotness. Related thought: when did Keanu Reeves suddenly become Asian? I've heard more references to his Chinese/Polynesian ancestry in the past month than I heard in the entire decade after The Matrix. Is it because he's in the Asian-American starring rom-com Always Be My Maybe? So, not necessarily brought up from a defensive position, just a crass marketing ploy to get some of that Crazy Rich Asians attention. Funnily, when my Asian-American wife and I watched Always Be My Maybe (which was pretty decent), she commented something like, "Is this all we're going to get?" meaning Asian people get starring vehicles in Hollywood, they just need to be rom-coms now. And, yeah, probably. Crazy Rich Asians was successful, rom-coms are relatively cheap to produce, and so an easy product for streaming services. Otherwise Asian actors (probably a popular Hong Kong actor) will probably just continue to be cast in small roles to pander to the Chinese market.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jun 11, 2019 20:48:58 GMT -5
Related thought: when did Keanu Reeves suddenly become Asian? I've heard more references to his Chinese/Polynesian ancestry in the past month than I heard in the entire decade after The Matrix. I remember hearing about it when he first showed up, but it's definitely gotten mentioned a lot lately. I wonder if it's because he's either taken or planning to take a role where someone might accuse him of whitewashing. Maybe he's playing the real Mandarin or something. I'm just really interested in how the culture shifts surrounding Mixed/Ethnically Ambiguous People, being one of them, and it kind of surprises me how many part-white-part-asian people I knew during the peak of The Matrix's pop cultural relevance who had seen The Matrix and had some emotional investment in Asian-American celebrities for representation reasons, and yet I had no idea Keanu Reeves was in fact a quarter Chinese or whatever until a month ago. My guess is that a couple years ago The Matrix went from being (critically/academically) a problematic white savior narrative to being a woke trans allegory ( swagonion 's very nice article on the film was one of the many places I saw this mentioned over the past month), and because it can be two things they had to specify his ethnicity so it didn't look like the former.
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Post by Hachiman on Jun 13, 2019 21:14:09 GMT -5
One thing I am becoming more sensitive to when watching movies is the internal timeline of movies. Its shocking how many films, especially major ones, take place over a few days or maybe week at most.
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Post by Floyd D Barber on Jun 13, 2019 23:03:39 GMT -5
I am being haunted by four shadowy phantoms from my childhood. Somebody is making a movie where the Banana Splits are psychotic murders, and I feel my blood chill in my veins as I realize that sooner or later, I'm gonna have to watch that fucker.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jun 14, 2019 13:35:29 GMT -5
New Shaft movies should come out on Mother's Day Weekend, not Father's Day weekend. Because we all know that Shaft is one bad Mother....
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on Jun 14, 2019 14:29:59 GMT -5
New Shaft movies should come out on Mother's Day Weekend, not Father's Day weekend. Because we all know that Shaft is one bad Mother.... Shut your mouth!
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jun 14, 2019 15:28:39 GMT -5
New Shaft movies should come out on Mother's Day Weekend, not Father's Day weekend. Because we all know that Shaft is one bad Mother.... Shut your mouth! He's just talking about Shaft.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 7:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Jun 17, 2019 9:26:55 GMT -5
New Shaft movies should come out on Mother's Day Weekend, not Father's Day weekend. Because we all know that Shaft is one bad Mother.... I disagree. It should come out on Father's Day precisely because Shaft is one bad motherfucker, and that is literally the definition of a father.
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Post by swagonion on Jun 17, 2019 17:39:30 GMT -5
I remember hearing about it when he first showed up, but it's definitely gotten mentioned a lot lately. I wonder if it's because he's either taken or planning to take a role where someone might accuse him of whitewashing. Maybe he's playing the real Mandarin or something. I'm just really interested in how the culture shifts surrounding Mixed/Ethnically Ambiguous People, being one of them, and it kind of surprises me how many part-white-part-asian people I knew during the peak of The Matrix's pop cultural relevance who had seen The Matrix and had some emotional investment in Asian-American celebrities for representation reasons, and yet I had no idea Keanu Reeves was in fact a quarter Chinese or whatever until a month ago. My guess is that a couple years ago The Matrix went from being (critically/academically) a problematic white savior narrative to being a woke trans allegory ( swagonion 's very nice article on the film was one of the many places I saw this mentioned over the past month), and because it can be two things they had to specify his ethnicity so it didn't look like the former. I saw John Wick 3 yesterday with a friend of mine who is Asian-American, and she was, like, "Everybody forgets Keanu is Canadian, and everybody forgets Keanu is Asian!!" But I feel like both are percolating to the surface as Keanu's stardom improbably continues to grow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 19:18:05 GMT -5
Leaked production photo of Tom Holland as Michael Corleone in the Godfather remake
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Post by Floyd D Barber on Jun 18, 2019 22:47:23 GMT -5
Leaked production photo of Tom Holland as Michael Corleone in the Godfather remake I thought this was from the gritty reboot of "Stop Making Sense".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 14:38:14 GMT -5
Holy fuck, Tim Burton's Batman turned 30 today, so of course it is trending all over twitter. It is so insufferable y'all. Not because love or nostalgia for the movie is wrong, it is a good movie, I like it a lot. It is because so many people are acting as if it was so important to them, or they had some profound realization about the movie even though they were only a kid when the saw it.
It is okay to simply say you enjoyed a movie as a kid, but didn't really appreciate what made it special as an adult. You don't have to make every childhood memory into something that needs to be held sacred.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 14:41:58 GMT -5
Oh yeah, remember when I said people didn't really like Keanu. I really don't think anyone who genuinely likes keanu would harass a little kid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 9:39:32 GMT -5
This is the new poster for the Avengers Endgame re-release(that is somehow already this week? Talk about shamelessly wanting a record that doesn't fucking matter in the grand scheme of things). I feel like Roddy Piper in They Live when I look at this, because I don't see "We love you 3000" all I can see is "We own you 3000".
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Jun 25, 2019 12:46:30 GMT -5
I find it annoying that people are liking Keanu Reeves. Not because I think he shouldn't be liked, but because it is basically a meme at this point. There seens to be a degree of disingenuous intent to it all. It wasn't even that long ago in 2013 that most of the public saw him doing 47 Ronin as a laughing stock. People always shat all over his resume before John Wick, even though his 90s output involves a lot of great stuff and his 00s work had some roles that went overlooked. Keanu Reeves deserves to be liked for real, not just because it is the new hotness. Related thought: when did Keanu Reeves suddenly become Asian? I've heard more references to his Chinese/Polynesian ancestry in the past month than I heard in the entire decade after The Matrix. Yup it used to be mentioned every single time an article was written about him. BUT those articles were also probably in Tiger Beat or Bop, which is what I was reading at the time he came on the scene.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Jun 25, 2019 12:54:18 GMT -5
I find it annoying that people are liking Keanu Reeves. Not because I think he shouldn't be liked, but because it is basically a meme at this point. There seens to be a degree of disingenuous intent to it all. It wasn't even that long ago in 2013 that most of the public saw him doing 47 Ronin as a laughing stock. People always shat all over his resume before John Wick, even though his 90s output involves a lot of great stuff and his 00s work had some roles that went overlooked. Keanu Reeves deserves to be liked for real, not just because it is the new hotness. I find it annoying because I still feel like he is a mediocre to terrible actor most of the time. By all accounts he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet, but there are only a handful of movies I can stand to watch him. He's not a charismatic action actor, no matter what Hollywood wants everyone to think, he's infinitely better in weird-dude-quirky roles, like I Love You To Death.
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Post by patbat on Jul 1, 2019 8:20:53 GMT -5
Really, really ready to stop seeing ads for Midsommar every fucking where
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 14:01:04 GMT -5
Bill & Ted 3 officially underway:
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jul 1, 2019 14:53:53 GMT -5
Whisper of the Heart is the Ghibli Fest movie this week. Dubbed tonight, subbed on Wednesday, I think.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 2, 2019 1:44:26 GMT -5
A friend and I were recently talking about how bored we were with all the jukebox musicals on Broadway, and then last week I saw the trailers in front of "Rocketman" and I finally realized that jukebox musicals are moving from Broadway to Hollywood and it is depressing.
Look, I don't mind biopics of musicians which use the music of the artist in the movie. But "Yesterday" is a jukebox musical, pure and simple. Which, according to the reviews, actually whiffs on its premise and does nothing other than just be a jukebox musical. That is sad.
Another trailer was for "Blinded by the Light" which I remember hearing about during Sundance. Even though this is based on a book, it is also functionally a jukebox musical, yeah?
Ugh, please Hollywood, stop making these now.
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Post by patbat on Jul 2, 2019 10:51:20 GMT -5
FUCK I am here for this
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jul 2, 2019 19:57:33 GMT -5
A friend and I were recently talking about how bored we were with all the jukebox musicals on Broadway, and then last week I saw the trailers in front of "Rocketman" and I finally realized that jukebox musicals are moving from Broadway to Hollywood and it is depressing. Look, I don't mind biopics of musicians which use the music of the artist in the movie. But "Yesterday" is a jukebox musical, pure and simple. Which, according to the reviews, actually whiffs on its premise and does nothing other than just be a jukebox musical. That is sad. Another trailer was for "Blinded by the Light" which I remember hearing about during Sundance. Even though this is based on a book, it is also functionally a jukebox musical, yeah? Ugh, please Hollywood, stop making these now. I wouldn't be upset if Broadway stopped, as well.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jul 2, 2019 22:51:41 GMT -5
A friend and I were recently talking about how bored we were with all the jukebox musicals on Broadway, and then last week I saw the trailers in front of "Rocketman" and I finally realized that jukebox musicals are moving from Broadway to Hollywood and it is depressing. Look, I don't mind biopics of musicians which use the music of the artist in the movie. But "Yesterday" is a jukebox musical, pure and simple. Which, according to the reviews, actually whiffs on its premise and does nothing other than just be a jukebox musical. That is sad. Yesterday is one of those movies where the premise is so bizarre and so brilliant that there is no way in hell that the film itself could be better than the thought exercise of "how many directions could this go?"
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 3, 2019 23:36:20 GMT -5
Look, I don't mind biopics of musicians which use the music of the artist in the movie. But "Yesterday" is a jukebox musical, pure and simple. Which, according to the reviews, actually whiffs on its premise and does nothing other than just be a jukebox musical. That is sad. Yesterday is one of those movies where the premise is so bizarre and so brilliant that there is no way in hell that the film itself could be better than the thought exercise of "how many directions could this go?"
I know. I get that it was inevitably going to be disappointing. There is no way the actual movie could live up to how great that premise is and the crazy cool things you could do with it.
But, wow, what they decided to do was about the most disappointing thing possible. I mean, wow. Of all the ways you could go with that idea, you choose this? Really??
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Post by kitchin on Jul 4, 2019 6:16:54 GMT -5
Yesterday is one of those movies where the premise is so bizarre and so brilliant that there is no way in hell that the film itself could be better than the thought exercise of "how many directions could this go?"
I know. I get that it was inevitably going to be disappointing. There is no way the actual movie could live up to how great that premise is and the crazy cool things you could do with it.
But, wow, what they decided to do was about the most disappointing thing possible. I mean, wow. Of all the ways you could go with that idea, you choose this? Really??
Hot Tub Time Machine had that premise already. Twice! For Craig Robinson, and for Rob Corddry (Mötley Lüe).
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Post by William T. Goat, Esq. on Jul 4, 2019 11:31:40 GMT -5
I know. I get that it was inevitably going to be disappointing. There is no way the actual movie could live up to how great that premise is and the crazy cool things you could do with it.
But, wow, what they decided to do was about the most disappointing thing possible. I mean, wow. Of all the ways you could go with that idea, you choose this? Really??
Hot Tub Time Machine had that premise already. Twice! For Craig Robinson, and for Rob Corddry (Mötley Lüe). Also the TV series Otherworld.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jul 5, 2019 13:58:32 GMT -5
I know. I get that it was inevitably going to be disappointing. There is no way the actual movie could live up to how great that premise is and the crazy cool things you could do with it.
But, wow, what they decided to do was about the most disappointing thing possible. I mean, wow. Of all the ways you could go with that idea, you choose this? Really??
Hot Tub Time Machine had that premise already. Twice! For Craig Robinson, and for Rob Corddry (Mötley Lüe). I mean, sure, "what if you went back in time and 'invented' some technology/art that doesn't exist yet" is a common sci-fi trope, but this particular iteration is really interesting. How would the cultural landscape of 2019 be different without the Beatles and the acts they inspired (which is, um, a solid 50% of Western pop music)? Would the Beatles songbook even resonate in 2019? Given the film's casting - would the Beatles be so popular if they were a nebbish Indian guy instead of four photogenic white boys?
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 7, 2019 20:45:25 GMT -5
Hot Tub Time Machine had that premise already. Twice! For Craig Robinson, and for Rob Corddry (Mötley Lüe). I mean, sure, "what if you went back in time and 'invented' some technology/art that doesn't exist yet" is a common sci-fi trope, but this particular iteration is really interesting. How would the cultural landscape of 2019 be different without the Beatles and the acts they inspired (which is, um, a solid 50% of Western pop music)? Would the Beatles songbook even resonate in 2019? Given the film's casting - would the Beatles be so popular if they were a nebbish Indian guy instead of four photogenic white boys? Honestly, the other stuff "Yesterday" said didn't exist are more of a WTF thing than the Beatles. This film says Coca-Cola and cigarettes don't exist. And due to that I'd have to then wonder how the United States is a thing that is pretty much exactly the same. Like..... if you tell me that the TOBACCO industry doesn't exist, I'd think the USA would be radically different.
Also, in this universe "Harry Potter" doesn't exist. Given this.... wouldn't you choose to write Harry Potter rather than release the songs of the Beatles? I mean, which would be more lucrative in today's market? And if Harry Potter didn't exist, what would YA literature look like now? The mind boggles. I'd think it would make far more sense that an Indian guy from the UK could write Harry Potter and be successful than him somehow turning the Beatles catalog into massive worldwide hits in today's music industry.
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