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Post by 🔪 silly buns on May 18, 2016 15:24:00 GMT -5
OH MY GOD THAT MOVIE WAS LOOOOOONG! I enjoyed it though....but that airport scene could be cut.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on May 18, 2016 15:42:39 GMT -5
I liked it overall, but Marvel still owes me a Captain America movie. This was Iron Man 4/Avengers 2.5.
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 19, 2016 6:26:44 GMT -5
Liked it a lot (and loved the huge 23 on Bucky's Portakabin Prison Box), but honestly? X-Men: Apocalypse moved me far more deeply. Talk about that once you've seen it.
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 19, 2016 7:45:56 GMT -5
My wife's one major annoyance: Rogers' gratuitous muscle posing while holding on to the helicopter. This seems like a reference to something though? Like someone or something else has that same pose, like an ancient Greek statue or something. Or maybe something more obvious. I can't think of it. My one major annoyance: during the meeting to sign the accords, there is a brief shot of some UN thing in the background, and there is unconnected Arabic script in it. How many hundreds of millions of dollars did it take to make this, and they couldn't afford a word processor that could properly render Arabic? Anyway, the rest of it was cool, I thought. EDIT: Maybe I'm thinking of the Artemision Bronze? The "gratuitous posing" thing only bothered me a little bit; it is much easier to hold onto something underhand rather than overhand, if you see what I'm saying. But it does come across a little weird. Plus God bless Steve Rogers' stubborn little head. IMMA STOP A GODDAMN HELICOPTER FROM TAKING OFF. Also jfc I don't understand how his arms aren't CGI. And gorramit, why didn't the chopper fly away when Steve literally let go of the rail to swap to a more gratuitous bicep pose??
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Post by nowimnothing on May 19, 2016 10:25:32 GMT -5
The "gratuitous posing" thing only bothered me a little bit; it is much easier to hold onto something underhand rather than overhand, if you see what I'm saying. But it does come across a little weird. Plus God bless Steve Rogers' stubborn little head. IMMA STOP A GODDAMN HELICOPTER FROM TAKING OFF. Also jfc I don't understand how his arms aren't CGI. And gorramit, why didn't the chopper fly away when Steve literally let go of the rail to swap to a more gratuitous bicep pose?? Well if we are going to get into that then what about how much mass these superheroes have? He pulled the chopper down before he even grabbed onto anything. Does Cap weigh 800 lbs or something? The Hulk has the same problem in the Avengers. Sure, I can buy that they are strong enough, but they do need something to push or pull off of.
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 19, 2016 11:58:12 GMT -5
And gorramit, why didn't the chopper fly away when Steve literally let go of the rail to swap to a more gratuitous bicep pose?? Well if we are going to get into that then what about how much mass these superheroes have? He pulled the chopper down before he even grabbed onto anything. Does Cap weigh 800 lbs or something? The Hulk has the same problem in the Avengers. Sure, I can buy that they are strong enough, but they do need something to push or pull off of. NB the shield & Spidey's comment about the laws of physics... but literally letting go of something then nonchalantly swapping grip was where my suspension of disbelief fell down.
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Post by 🐍 cahusserole 🐍 on May 21, 2016 18:13:43 GMT -5
Tom Holland is not Tom Hollander.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 21, 2016 19:25:06 GMT -5
Tom Holland is not Tom Hollander. Nor the historian of the same name.
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 22, 2016 18:23:09 GMT -5
Tom Holland is not Tom Hollander. Nor the historian of the same name. Is he the same person as Tom The Netherlands?
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 22, 2016 23:06:27 GMT -5
Finally saw it. Just the mouthwash I wanted to get out that Ultron taste. Edited for additional thoughts: -I thought the new character introductions were handled much better this time out. Of the two newbies, Spidey felt the most tacked on, but dammit if the Holland kid wasn't charming enough to win me over and actually make me excited about the prospect of a Spider-man movie again. As with everything else I've seen him in, I thought Boseman was fine and Panther was at least interesting enough to make me want to see the stand-alone film. Really curious just how crazy Marvel let's themselves go with the Wakanda afro-futurism setting in that movie. -Just like in his own movie last summer, Ant-Man brings a bunch of unique, fun elements to super-hero fight scenes. I really wonder if the character might be in for the poor man's version of Iron Man's raised comic book profile. Between Paul Rudd being Paul Rudd and his novelty in the midst of the usual "punch, punch, laser, laser, punch" superhero fights, he just works better on screen than he has in the books. -There would have almost certainly been more casualties had Scarlet Witch not been there to levitate that bomb out of the middle of a crowded public square, right? And NOBODY EVER BRINGS UP THAT POINT! Or the fact that even if the UN sanctions them to go fight an alien invasion in the middle of a major city, or take down flying assassination gunships, that won't magically make all collateral damage go away. I know it's a superhero movie, but Cap's not a dummy, you'd think he'd point that out. -Maybe it was just me, but Renner's lines seemed extra "Matt Fraction Hawkguy"-ey to me this time out, which I enjoyed. -I'm still not sure what the point of Vision is -I liked Zemo as a master plan, schemer villain and would not be disappointed if he re-surfaced in another movie, even though the culmination of his plan in the finale seems to really bank on Stark being there, which was far from guaranteed, unless I missed something. -The ending seems like a bold choice given that there won't be another movie featuring the core Avengers characters for another 2 years. I guess Iron Man is supposedly showing up in the new Spider-Man, but it's not clear how tied in his stand-alone movies will be with the rest of the MCU. Just seems like a long time to wonder about the legal status of a bunch of characters especially since two of them young kids at home. [\Spoiler]
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 25, 2016 11:11:15 GMT -5
-The ending seems like a bold choice given that there won't be another movie featuring the core Avengers characters for another 2 years. There's a Thor movie next year. It also has the Hulk, so it's essentially the movie with the core Avengers characters who weren't in this movie.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 25, 2016 11:20:47 GMT -5
-The ending seems like a bold choice given that there won't be another movie featuring the core Avengers characters for another 2 years. There's a Thor movie next year. It also has the Hulk, so it's essentially the movie with the core Avengers characters who weren't in this movie. You're technically correct, the best kind of correct, but I think my general point still stands. I suppose it's possible that there's some exposition at the beginning of that movie that will touch on Civil War fallout, but I suspect it's more likely that Ragnorak will be meant to be a "meanwhile...on Asgard" concurrent adventure, or will just be generally uninterested in the happenings back on Earth.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 25, 2016 11:23:14 GMT -5
-I'm still not sure what the point of Vision is It's to get killed by Thanos so we know the stakes are high in the next Avengers movie with "Avengers" actually in the title, is my guess. Ah, so he's some sort of Data/Worf hybrid?
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 25, 2016 12:03:11 GMT -5
There's a Thor movie next year. It also has the Hulk, so it's essentially the movie with the core Avengers characters who weren't in this movie. You're technically correct, the best kind of correct, but I think my general point still stands. I suppose it's possible that there's some exposition at the beginning of that movie that will touch on Civil War fallout, but I suspect it's more likely that Ragnorak will be meant to be a "meanwhile...on Asgard" concurrent adventure, or will just be generally uninterested in the happenings back on Earth. Since the guy hunting down superheroes is Hulk's former nemesis I think it's almost obligatory for them to mention it in the film, I've already stated I assume that's where we meet Hulk and why he leaves the planet (so the fallout of Civil War could be the subject of an early movie setpiece akin to the Crossbones stuff in Civil War.)
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