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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Mar 14, 2018 15:26:01 GMT -5
I was reading The Manchurian Candidate this morning, and this passage stuck out to me. It's such a relief that modern politics doesn't have people like this in it any more.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Mar 16, 2018 14:31:23 GMT -5
I’ve resolved not to post anything on this forum anymore except Rob Ford images.
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Post by dLᵒ on Mar 16, 2018 19:46:07 GMT -5
Maybe they thought they could get away with it because of Litivenko or maybe this all went ass up and was supposed to turn out different but the brazeness of the assassination attempt on Skripal by the Russians and deployment of the particular nerve agent involved is utterly confounding. One can only assume the individuals responsible are idiots who fucked up very badly or more unpleasantly that people higher up the chain are wholly divorced from reality. I wonder if they saw the NK nerve agent assassination and got jealous that someone else was playing with forbidden toys.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Mar 17, 2018 13:47:32 GMT -5
I don’t know and can’t assess the multitude of relevant factors, but I at least tend to imagine that the intimatadory efficacy of high-profile, anti-civil rights assassinations such as that of Marielle Franco’s, and the advantage that accrues from the individual’s elimination, is outweighed by their concomitant elevation of the deaceased’s notoriety and the enhanced exposure of the crimes they combatted.
But if they’re killing a great more campaigners as well, the opposite could well be true.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 18, 2018 2:48:50 GMT -5
Trier was hella cool, but surprisingly I couldn’t sell a 3 and 5 year old on going through the Marx museum.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 20, 2018 21:02:13 GMT -5
Trier was hella cool, but surprisingly I couldn’t sell a 3 and 5 year old on going through the Marx museum. Well, at least you have some political children's entertainment on this very thread that you could interest your children in with the bootleg Pooh Xi Jinping Though cartoons. Just show them Lemur's first link above and they'll be all like "Haha I get it, in the real cartoons Pooh likes honey but here he accidentally mistook a physical manifestation of Xi Jinping Thought for honey, and upon ingesting it became pro-autocracy. That's a solid joke. Thanks for showing us this pre-schooler-geared political satire, dad!"
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Post by Lord Lucan on Mar 21, 2018 20:03:12 GMT -5
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Post by sarapen on Mar 22, 2018 19:45:35 GMT -5
Maclean's is uncharacteristically full of piss and vinegar as it calls for abolishing the Senate if it successfully halts marijuana legislation (it didn't). Should one be unfamiliar, the Senate is basically Canada's version of the House of Lords in the UK, which is to say that it's an unelected body full of prehistoric fossils who rubber stamp legislation put forward by the actual politicians and whose members draw an idiotically generous paycheque from the taxpayers. Unlike the UK you don't need a title to join this body but are instead appointed by the government through horsetrading and favours and whatnot. I don't know if the UK has any serious movement to abolish its House of Lords, but killing the Senate has been one of the central planks of the NDP platform forever and reasonable people from all parties have advocated the same. I would not be surprised if the Senate is gone in 50 years and consider that to be much more likely than for Canada to, say, get rid of the monarchy. Anyway, some choice quotes:
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Post by Lord Lucan on Mar 22, 2018 20:40:05 GMT -5
FPTP disgusts me no end.
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Post by fab on Mar 23, 2018 8:42:36 GMT -5
Maclean's is uncharacteristically full of piss and vinegar as it calls for abolishing the Senate if it successfully halts marijuana legislation (it didn't). Should one be unfamiliar, the Senate is basically Canada's version of the House of Lords in the UK, which is to say that it's an unelected body full of prehistoric fossils who rubber stamp legislation put forward by the actual politicians and whose members draw an idiotically generous paycheque from the taxpayers. Unlike the UK you don't need a title to join this body but are instead appointed by the government through horsetrading and favours and whatnot. I don't know if the UK has any serious movement to abolish its House of Lords, but killing the Senate has been one of the central planks of the NDP platform forever and reasonable people from all parties have advocated the same. I would not be surprised if the Senate is gone in 50 years and consider that to be much more likely than for Canada to, say, get rid of the monarchy. Anyway, some choice quotes: the thing is, you don't generally get to be a Senator by being an honourable person. you get there by kissing a lot of ass and maybe do one or two high profile or culturally relevant (ish) things and generally gladhanding others politically (backroom or backbench, literal or figurative). whenever I hear what Senators make in a given year (not including their very generous travel etc. stipends) plus their guaranteed pension for life (upwards of what, $80K a year? AS A FUCKING PENSION), I have a pretty heavily mixed reaction. I find it exceedingly depressing and infuriating. I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a better example of completely pointless graft and skimming right off the top.
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Post by sarapen on Mar 23, 2018 13:44:22 GMT -5
fab Don't forget that you have to be a landowner to be a Senator. I'm surprised prima nocta isn't one of their perks since it's such an absurdly archaic requirement. Then again, subverting the democratic will of the filthy peasants was the reason the Senate was made in the first place. Thankfully nowadays they're as neutered as the constitution can allow, so there's that.
Also, apparently there are specific parcels of land that are handed off from one Senator to another to fulfill the landownership requirements for the ones who don't own real estate. I think they're just like half an acre in a random swampland or something.
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Post by fab on Mar 23, 2018 14:19:50 GMT -5
fab Don't forget that you have to be a landowner to be a Senator. I'm surprised prima nocta isn't one of their perks since it's such an absurdly archaic requirement. Then again, subverting the democratic will of the filthy peasants was the reason the Senate was made in the first place. Thankfully nowadays they're as neutered as the constitution can allow, so there's that.
Also, apparently there are specific parcels of land that are handed off from one Senator to another to fulfill the landownership requirements for the ones who don't own real estate. I think they're just like half an acre in a random swampland or something. didn't Mike Duffy pull some extremely shady shit with the landowner technicalities and his stipend? IIRC he was granted his Senator position as a "thank you" from Harper and co. for abusing his position as a well-regarded pundit by overtly mischaracterizing and skewing a bunch of high profile events that led to Harper's rise and painfully long term as PM. with the stupid amounts of money they make as Senators, I'm surprised all of them don't own a bunch of real estate to begin with, but I guess that's a requirement to become and remain a Senator, right? what a ridiculous system.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Mar 25, 2018 18:11:44 GMT -5
So there’s a bit of a thing over Parkland student Emma Gonzalez wearing a jacket with a Cuban flag because people apparently don’t realize that Cuba never changed its flag after it went Communist. Anyway Cuba is evidently the only country which didn’t change its flag after its revolution, with a couple of technical exceptions:
—Kim Il-Sung started off using the traditional Korean flag still used in South Korea, but at some point the Soviets sent someone down to give them a new one
—Laos’s flag wasn’t designed by the Pathet Lao, but it was associated with anti-monarchist movements in the past
Also had Greece gone Communist their flag would have been overwhelmingly blue-and-white, maybe with a red ∆ for ∆ημοκρατία (Demokratìa)somewhere but the Greeks love their blue-and-white, which means that Greek communist iconography tends to be red, white, and blue, though it’s a lighter blue. I’m actually not sure if light-vs-deep blue is salient in Greek political symbolism, but the Greek flag shifted from lighter-to-darker-to-lighter blue when it went from democracy-junta (literally—it was called the Χούντα, which is just “Junta” pronounced with more phlegm at the beginning of the word and a longer u sound, also said in a incongruously bouncy way to get the accent right)-democracy in the sixties and seventies.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Apr 5, 2018 13:15:51 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Lucan on Apr 5, 2018 13:22:59 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Lucan on Apr 9, 2018 21:27:44 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Lucan on Apr 10, 2018 10:57:22 GMT -5
Tohar HaNeshek. www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-video-shows-palestinian-shot-by-israeli-sniper-to-sound-of-cheers-1.5988677"There are no innocent people in the Gaza Strip," Lieberman told Israel's public radio. "Everyone's connected to Hamas, everyone gets a salary from Hamas, and all the activists trying to challenge us and breach the border are Hamas military wing activists." p.dw.com/p/2vg0D?emIf anyone is entitled to a salary from Hamas, it’s Lieberman and his cohorts for continuing to incur the widespread anathematizing of Israel. Also the cleaving of opinion and loyalty of international Jewry over its actions. Hamas could only dream of inflicting an injury to that degree.
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Post by sarapen on Apr 10, 2018 11:40:02 GMT -5
Tohar HaNeshek. www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-video-shows-palestinian-shot-by-israeli-sniper-to-sound-of-cheers-1.5988677"There are no innocent people in the Gaza Strip," Lieberman told Israel's public radio. "Everyone's connected to Hamas, everyone gets a salary from Hamas, and all the activists trying to challenge us and breach the border are Hamas military wing activists." p.dw.com/p/2vg0D?emIf anyone is entitled to a salary from Hamas, it’s Lieberman and his cohorts for continuing to incur the widespread anathematizing of Israel. Also the cleaving of opinion and loyalty of international Jewry over its actions. Hamas could only dream of inflicting an injury to that degree. So it's like that scene from Full Metal Jacket when they're shooting Vietnamese farmers from a helicopter: "Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a particularly disciplined VC."
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Post by fab on Apr 10, 2018 12:07:57 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Lucan on May 5, 2018 19:38:14 GMT -5
While he admonishes Washington and Strasbourg about the rising threat to liberal democracy from nationalistic demagogues who capitalize on widespread discontent and alienation- nyti.ms/2FLgMfj
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Post by Kawaii as Fuck on May 8, 2018 19:59:42 GMT -5
Is it pretty much a done deal that we're about to go to war with Iran? What the hell is going on?
Pretty ironic considering during Trump's campaign he decried the Iraq war as a disaster but now it looks like he's going to get us into Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo, expect this time it might be even worse since it could put us into conflict with Iran's ally, Russia, which is already a nuclear power, THAT'S sure to end well.
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Post by ganews on May 18, 2018 9:47:51 GMT -5
I think perhaps I will start treating this thread as "random policy ideas".
What if property taxes for education funding went into a single repository for an entire state (I say state and not federal, because, you know) to be divvied up equally among all public school districts on a per-child basis? Obviously I don't know how much of this is currently true, but that's the reason that rich school districts = better-funded/whiter schools, right? There would still be de-facto school segregation, but that result would also be true of reparations-type solutions where money is selectively poured into minority-concentrated communities. White people who demand the best schools for their kids and eternally-rising property values will fight it of course.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on May 18, 2018 10:28:31 GMT -5
I think perhaps I will start treating this thread as "random policy ideas". What if property taxes for education funding went into a single repository for an entire state (I say state and not federal, because, you know) to be divvied up equally among all public school districts on a per-child basis? Obviously I don't know how much of this is currently true, but that's the reason that rich school districts = better-funded/whiter schools, right? There would still be de-facto school segregation, but that result would also be true of reparations-type solutions where money is selectively poured into minority-concentrated communities. White people who demand the best schools for their kids and eternally-rising property values will fight it of course. I think it would be really tough to pull something like this off, as like you said there'd be immense pushback, mostly from affluent white parents (which could lead to a lot of difficulty even in some of the bluer states), but I think this would be an excellent idea. Another hypothetical policy along the same lines that your idea has spurred me to think of (and which I haven't spent nearly enough time thinking through), what if, in addition to your idea, there was a rule that no school district could start spending less per-child than it is currently spending, thus ensuring that all school districts in a state will be spending at the level that the wealthiest school district was spending before the implementation of the policy?
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Post by sarapen on May 18, 2018 11:09:22 GMT -5
I think perhaps I will start treating this thread as "random policy ideas". What if property taxes for education funding went into a single repository for an entire state (I say state and not federal, because, you know) to be divvied up equally among all public school districts on a per-child basis? Obviously I don't know how much of this is currently true, but that's the reason that rich school districts = better-funded/whiter schools, right? There would still be de-facto school segregation, but that result would also be true of reparations-type solutions where money is selectively poured into minority-concentrated communities. White people who demand the best schools for their kids and eternally-rising property values will fight it of course. This is how it works in Canada. The core educational stuff is there (textbooks, working bathrooms, decent teacher salaries, etc.), but inequality still pops up in the enrichment stuff - sports clubs, field trips, iPads in class, nice playground equipment, and other extras. Apparently that stuff is more important than you'd think.
Fundraising widens gap between have and have-not students, report finds
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Post by ganews on May 18, 2018 11:47:48 GMT -5
I think perhaps I will start treating this thread as "random policy ideas". What if property taxes for education funding went into a single repository for an entire state (I say state and not federal, because, you know) to be divvied up equally among all public school districts on a per-child basis? Obviously I don't know how much of this is currently true, but that's the reason that rich school districts = better-funded/whiter schools, right? There would still be de-facto school segregation, but that result would also be true of reparations-type solutions where money is selectively poured into minority-concentrated communities. White people who demand the best schools for their kids and eternally-rising property values will fight it of course. I think it would be really tough to pull something like this off, as like you said there'd be immense pushback, mostly from affluent white parents (which could lead to a lot of difficulty even in some of the bluer states), but I think this would be an excellent idea. Another hypothetical policy along the same lines that your idea has spurred me to think of (and which I haven't spent nearly enough time thinking through), what if, in addition to your idea, there was a rule that no school district could start spending less per-child than it is currently spending, thus ensuring that all school districts in a state will be spending at the level that the wealthiest school district was spending before the implementation of the policy? This issue is the very core effect of systemic racism, and I have no idea how to solve it. Integration got pushback, forced busing got pushback, selling houses to black families got white flight. "I want the best for my kids" is both a universal truth and a convenient cover for racists and not-racist-buts. Is there any solution that can pass through people concerned that they will be "negatively" impacted in any way but also is a significant help to people who need it, while at the same time holding off the forces who explicitly want to hurt people? (I could call that first part appeasement, or I could call it political reality.)
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on May 19, 2018 14:42:14 GMT -5
I Will Do Anything to End Homelessness Except Build More HomesI think, like a lot of current satire, it misses the mark by being way too broad. While the joke’s that affluent progressives’ stance on homelessness is really just cover of their core conservatism, at least coming from LA I think this underrates: 1. The earnestness of a lot of the progressivism—people sincerely believe in Medicare for all, hate airbnb, are against gentrification, push for more transit, etc., while being wanting homelessness to be solved somewhere else. Of course, all of those causes are self-interested—everyone benefits from cheaper healthcare &c. (There’s also the weird, very LA-specific view I’ve heard that multifamily housing for the homeless will bring gentrification by establishing a beachhead for increased multifamily housing, which means more yuppies, obvs.—I can see why SoCal politics drove Montypark insane). 2. Resistance to homeless housing isn’t just a thing in white, affluent neighborhoods. I think this goes into a broader problem in American politics—more liberals in rich places wonder why people in poor in places like Kentucky vote Republican, but when people actually bother to talk to voters you see that the people who vote Republicans are generally ordinary professionals—teachers, nurses, etc., who don’t like redistribution down. This holds pretty universally in the US. I do think that the emphasis on local community in American activism—regardless of its place on the political spectrum—plays a big role in this. It does poorly with people marginalized (e.g. homeless, sex workers) or people who might want in but currently don’t have a voice (people moving to cities for economic opportunity, refugees).
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Post by sarapen on May 24, 2018 6:41:42 GMT -5
Here’s How Much Money You Need for Bankers to Think You’re Rich: In an era of hyper-wealth, economy-class rich starts at $25 million.
Kind of interesting to see how it works among the arch-capitalists. Also, if you know of any unemployed people with a history degree and willing to work for people who could buy and sell them in a second, tell them about bank historians.
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Post by Lurky McLurk on May 25, 2018 4:11:18 GMT -5
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Post by Spicoli Burger on May 25, 2018 17:30:04 GMT -5
Abortions for some, miniature Irish flags for others!
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Post by Sanziana on May 27, 2018 7:08:31 GMT -5
Oh my, Yes won. I didn't expect that. Godspeed, Irish ladies.
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