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Post by Baron von Costume on Oct 26, 2017 9:17:23 GMT -5
There was certainly no reason for him to be in this particular episode of DSC. Seemed pretty fan service-y. There was a lot of fan service in this episode, to be honest. We got an on-screen mention of Christopher Pike. And learned that apparently there were no great Starfleet Captains between Archer and Robert April. But there were 3 more great captains between Robert April and now. I am dubious about this. (Oh, and the best Starfleet captains were all human, also.) I'm pretty fine with there being no "great" captains between Archer and April if we're going for a certain level of great. The fact that they included Georgiou makes that a bit sketchier even if she's currently being lionized for stopping the Klingon megaship. |
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Post by Baron von Costume on Oct 26, 2017 9:22:46 GMT -5
Also as a shipnerd... I know we didn't see all of it but the ship that grabbed Lorca was NOT a d7, why go out of your way to call it a d7? Just say KLINGON SHIP damnit  I think that's my biggest problem with this is their "fan service" is often so incredibly poorly done. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Oct 26, 2017 12:07:58 GMT -5
I would much rather watch Star Trek V over this. There is row row row your boat, and also the first scene looks really cool. Plus, Spock shoots and kills God! If The Final Frontier were just a short film covering the landing on Sha-Ka-Ree to Spock turning around in the bird-of-prey’s captain’s chair it would be quite good. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Oct 27, 2017 22:01:04 GMT -5
Plus, Spock shoots and kills God! If The Final Frontier were just a short film covering the landing on Sha-Ka-Ree to Spock turning around in the bird-of-prey’s captain’s chair it would be quite good. But what about the first scene with Sybok and That Guy Who Digs Holes Out In the Desert for No Discernible Reason? |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Oct 27, 2017 23:05:11 GMT -5
Also as a shipnerd... I know we didn't see all of it but the ship that grabbed Lorca was NOT a d7, why go out of your way to call it a d7? Just say KLINGON SHIP damnit I think that's my biggest problem with this is their "fan service" is often so incredibly poorly done. Their fan service is basically "hey, let's mention this name, or show this thing but not in any way that makes sense with canon!" So, it's basically the worst possible way. I knew it was going to be bad when in the first episode the writers were so happy to post screenshots which showed that the books in Georgiou's office had titles that were titles of TOS episodes. Which were all stuff that, of course, happens 10+ years after the events of ST: DSC. She had a bottle of Picard wine. That was dated decades in the future. The writers were EXCITED about this. Guys, you're doing this wrong. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Oct 28, 2017 1:59:04 GMT -5
Also as a shipnerd... I know we didn't see all of it but the ship that grabbed Lorca was NOT a d7, why go out of your way to call it a d7? Just say KLINGON SHIP damnit I think that's my biggest problem with this is their "fan service" is often so incredibly poorly done. Their fan service is basically "hey, let's mention this name, or show this thing but not in any way that makes sense with canon!" So, it's basically the worst possible way. I knew it was going to be bad when in the first episode the writers were so happy to post screenshots which showed that the books in Georgiou's office had titles that were titles of TOS episodes. Which were all stuff that, of course, happens 10+ years after the events of ST: DSC. She had a bottle of Picard wine. That was dated decades in the future. The writers were EXCITED about this. Guys, you're doing this wrong. Has anything like this happened yet: Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: My favorite character on Star Trek: Voyager is Seven of Nine. Who's yours? Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: What is a startrack voyager? Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: It was a television show back before we had Stardates, in Earth's 20th Century. It actually accurately predicted that there would be a Starfleet, but it's set a little over 100 years in the future from now. There was another show called Star Trek: The Original Series, which even predicted that in about 10 years there would be a Starfleet ship called USS Enterprise, identification number NCC-1701, and the captain would be a man named James Kirk, and his science officer would be a half-Vulcan/half-human named Spock. There is a James Kirk in Starfleet, he just isn't a captain yet. There's a Spock in Starfleet too, and he's even the son of Ambassador Sarek, just like he was on the show! Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: Oh yes, now I remember, Star Trek: Voyager! My favorite character is Janeway. |
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Post by Hippo on Oct 28, 2017 2:36:14 GMT -5
They're trying so hard to say this is the Star Trek you know and love but it comes off as the wrong sort of fanservice because the whole series operates outside of that timeline yet somehow being in the timeline.
It's crap, it's just all crap. Expect a lot of refactoring to reconcile it with Prime.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Oct 28, 2017 21:14:39 GMT -5
Their fan service is basically "hey, let's mention this name, or show this thing but not in any way that makes sense with canon!" So, it's basically the worst possible way. I knew it was going to be bad when in the first episode the writers were so happy to post screenshots which showed that the books in Georgiou's office had titles that were titles of TOS episodes. Which were all stuff that, of course, happens 10+ years after the events of ST: DSC. She had a bottle of Picard wine. That was dated decades in the future. The writers were EXCITED about this. Guys, you're doing this wrong. Has anything like this happened yet: Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: My favorite character on Star Trek: Voyager is Seven of Nine. Who's yours? Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: What is a startrack voyager? Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: It was a television show back before we had Stardates, in Earth's 20th Century. It actually accurately predicted that there would be a Starfleet, but it's set a little over 100 years in the future from now. There was another show called Star Trek: The Original Series, which even predicted that in about 10 years there would be a Starfleet ship called USS Enterprise, identification number NCC-1701, and the captain would be a man named James Kirk, and his science officer would be a half-Vulcan/half-human named Spock. There is a James Kirk in Starfleet, he just isn't a captain yet. There's a Spock in Starfleet too, and he's even the son of Ambassador Sarek, just like he was on the show! Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: Oh yes, now I remember, Star Trek: Voyager! My favorite character is Janeway. Not quite. But, Cmdr Saru (Alien) asks the computer for a list of the best captains ever in Starfleet, and the computer shows him this list: Jonathan Archer Robert April Matthew Decker Phillipa Georgiou Christopher Pike Really, writers? Really?? And Harry Mudd was on, for no apparent reason. This last episode had a whole subplot with flashbacks which were apparently to explain why Sarek was so bitter that Spock chose to go into Starfleet. Because this was something that apparently needed further explanation? Ooh, you guys, did you know Sarek is a shitty father? Wow, who knew?! Thanks, DSC! We also saw Amanda in that episode. And the Captain of the Discovery has a Tribble on his desk. Just one! The writers had better pay that one off, damn it. He also had a Gorn skeleton in his lab, along with some Cardassian voles. Does the Federation even know the Cardassians yet, at this time? And the main character said "Constitution Class ship like the Enterprise" in the last episode. What we were talking about with the Klingon ship is that the characters on screen called the ship a D7. It looked nothing like a D7. Why are they even bothering to call it that if they don't make an attempt to make the ship look similar to a D7? And one of the Klingons is from the House of Kor. Just because. Kor isn't on the show. At least not yet. The preview for next week looks suspiciously similar to TNG "Cause and Effect". |
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Post by Generic Poster on Oct 29, 2017 16:01:49 GMT -5
Has anything like this happened yet: Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: My favorite character on Star Trek: Voyager is Seven of Nine. Who's yours? Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: What is a startrack voyager? Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: It was a television show back before we had Stardates, in Earth's 20th Century. It actually accurately predicted that there would be a Starfleet, but it's set a little over 100 years in the future from now. There was another show called Star Trek: The Original Series, which even predicted that in about 10 years there would be a Starfleet ship called USS Enterprise, identification number NCC-1701, and the captain would be a man named James Kirk, and his science officer would be a half-Vulcan/half-human named Spock. There is a James Kirk in Starfleet, he just isn't a captain yet. There's a Spock in Starfleet too, and he's even the son of Ambassador Sarek, just like he was on the show! Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: Oh yes, now I remember, Star Trek: Voyager! My favorite character is Janeway. Not quite. But, Cmdr Saru (Alien) asks the computer for a list of the best captains ever in Starfleet, and the computer shows him this list: Jonathan Archer Robert April Matthew Decker Phillipa Georgiou Christopher Pike Really, writers? Really?? And Harry Mudd was on, for no apparent reason. This last episode had a whole subplot with flashbacks which were apparently to explain why Sarek was so bitter that Spock chose to go into Starfleet. Because this was something that apparently needed further explanation? Ooh, you guys, did you know Sarek is a shitty father? Wow, who knew?! Thanks, DSC! We also saw Amanda in that episode. And the Captain of the Discovery has a Tribble on his desk. Just one! The writers had better pay that one off, damn it. He also had a Gorn skeleton in his lab, along with some Cardassian voles. Does the Federation even know the Cardassians yet, at this time? And the main character said "Constitution Class ship like the Enterprise" in the last episode. What we were talking about with the Klingon ship is that the characters on screen called the ship a D7. It looked nothing like a D7. Why are they even bothering to call it that if they don't make an attempt to make the ship look similar to a D7? And one of the Klingons is from the House of Kor. Just because. Kor isn't on the show. At least not yet. The preview for next week looks suspiciously similar to TNG "Cause and Effect". I don't know when the Federation first encountered the Cardassians, but I know they didn't encounter the Gorn prior to "Arena." TNG and DS9 certainly implied that the Cardassians had been encountered after TOS. I assumed that the Cardassian war that O'Brien fought in occurred within a few years of first contact with the Cardassian Union. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Oct 29, 2017 17:28:53 GMT -5
Has anything like this happened yet: Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: My favorite character on Star Trek: Voyager is Seven of Nine. Who's yours? Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: What is a startrack voyager? Lt. Cmdr. Main Character: It was a television show back before we had Stardates, in Earth's 20th Century. It actually accurately predicted that there would be a Starfleet, but it's set a little over 100 years in the future from now. There was another show called Star Trek: The Original Series, which even predicted that in about 10 years there would be a Starfleet ship called USS Enterprise, identification number NCC-1701, and the captain would be a man named James Kirk, and his science officer would be a half-Vulcan/half-human named Spock. There is a James Kirk in Starfleet, he just isn't a captain yet. There's a Spock in Starfleet too, and he's even the son of Ambassador Sarek, just like he was on the show! Ensign Death Proximity Instrument Alien: Oh yes, now I remember, Star Trek: Voyager! My favorite character is Janeway. Not quite. But, Cmdr Saru (Alien) asks the computer for a list of the best captains ever in Starfleet, and the computer shows him this list: Jonathan Archer Robert April Matthew Decker Phillipa Georgiou Christopher Pike Really, writers? Really?? And Harry Mudd was on, for no apparent reason. This last episode had a whole subplot with flashbacks which were apparently to explain why Sarek was so bitter that Spock chose to go into Starfleet. Because this was something that apparently needed further explanation? Ooh, you guys, did you know Sarek is a shitty father? Wow, who knew?! Thanks, DSC! We also saw Amanda in that episode. And the Captain of the Discovery has a Tribble on his desk. Just one! The writers had better pay that one off, damn it. He also had a Gorn skeleton in his lab, along with some Cardassian voles. Does the Federation even know the Cardassians yet, at this time? And the main character said "Constitution Class ship like the Enterprise" in the last episode. What we were talking about with the Klingon ship is that the characters on screen called the ship a D7. It looked nothing like a D7. Why are they even bothering to call it that if they don't make an attempt to make the ship look similar to a D7? And one of the Klingons is from the House of Kor. Just because. Kor isn't on the show. At least not yet. The preview for next week looks suspiciously similar to TNG "Cause and Effect". I know that this is supposed to convince me that the fan-service on this show is really dumb, and trust me, it has convinced me, but also now I really want to see them do an entire flashback time travel episode of the Discovery captain just Nikki and Pauloing their way through TNG's "Family" and other emotionally powerful episodes from the 80s/90s Treks to explain the future-dated Picard wine, Gorn skeleton, etc. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Oct 29, 2017 18:07:16 GMT -5
If The Final Frontier were just a short film covering the landing on Sha-Ka-Ree to Spock turning around in the bird-of-prey’s captain’s chair it would be quite good. But what about the first scene with Sybok and That Guy Who Digs Holes Out In the Desert for No Discernible Reason? Bad student film, which honestly isn’t a bad description for Star Trek V as a whole |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Oct 29, 2017 22:22:00 GMT -5
Episode 7 is exactly what the trailer made it look like: TNG's "Cause and Effect"
They are stuck in a time loop that repeats every 30 minutes. Which is controlled by Mudd.
See, I wasn't looking forward to Mudd being on the show because he was a gross misogynist in TOS. Good news! He isn't a misogynist anymore! Now he is a cold blooded killer. He killed a bunch of Starfleet officers in this episode, in order to make a financial deal with the Klingons. To pay back a debt to his wife Stella's father. Yes, that wife. (But hey, I guess it didn't count because it was in a previous time loop!)
Is this character still supposed to be cute and endearing? Are the fans who told me to "lighten up! It's supposed to be funny" about Mudd in TOS going to say the same thing now? Or is it just funny when he sells women, not so much when he kills people?
Not much else to say about this episode. It was "Cause and Effect". Loop back, ship explodes, repeat, etc. In DSC there is a character who actually knew the ship was looping through time. Yet, I think it still took them longer to get out of the loop than it did in "Cause and Effect" when everyone just had to re-learn it every time.
Also, how long is DSC going to go before they explain what the hell is wrong with Stamets? The first scene he was in was creepy. Why isn't his partner (husband?) worried? Also, they are really letting him repeatedly hook himself up to the engines of the ship?! I wondered why the Admiral was asking Lorca about this in last week's episode. They are letting him rewrite his DNA and literally attaching machinery to his body to power the ship?? And everyone is okay with this??? I mean, except that aforementioned Admiral. And then he starts acting like he's had a personality transplant and everyone is cool with that?
I guess this episode was okay. It was a decent effort at replicating a classic Trek episode. I don't think they managed to match or exceed "Cause and Effect".
What is weird is that the show is supposed to be "serialized like no other Trek before!" except none of these episodes seem to be related to each other. Stuff just happens. And then the episode ends and we don't seem to talk about what happened anymore. See above comment about Stamets. Like, that's just happening? No exploration of what that is doing to him? Figure out the Tardigrade in Episode 4, let it go in Episode 5. Lorca's Admiral lover was kidnapped by the Klingons in the last episode. No mention of that this time. Everything that happened in this episode was literally wiped out with the time resets!
Are we sure there's a war? Why aren't we talking about that? What's happening with that?
This definitely doesn't feel like the "most serialized Star Trek show ever". It feels like DS9's version of serialization.
Edited to add: It feels like normal DS9, I mean. Not like S6 E1-6 or the final 10 episodes of S7. ST:DSC is not nearly as serialized as those sets of episodes were.
This concludes my weekly presentation of "Why Alex Kurtzman should not be doing press for DSC if he has never seen DS9".
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Oct 30, 2017 11:54:57 GMT -5
I really liked this episode, even if it was just Cause and Effect with Stamets replacing Data (and don't they have some kind of robot on the bridge? What's her deal?).
It was a lot of fun, but of course they have to reset it to the TOS timeline so Mudd ends up with Stella...although those final moments kind of ruined the fun of the rest of the episode, since there is no way they would just let him go at that point.
Also, thinking about it some more, is the most important question in this universe really how Mudd ends up with Stella? Why do we need to know this?
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 30, 2017 13:42:51 GMT -5
I really liked this episode, even if it was just Cause and Effect with Stamets replacing Data (and don't they have some kind of robot on the bridge? What's her deal?). The short answer is it's unclear. The character's name is Airiam, but the official after show, After Trek, has referred to her both as an augmented alien or an augmented human. The latter appears to be the more definitive line as it came directly from one of the showrunners, but the idea that she is an alien has been supported by one of the writers, so. Given this uncertainty I assume that throughout the first season she doesn't rise beyond visually identifiable background character. We do have a clearer idea of her origin behind the scenes, though - Akiva Goldsman saw a couple of designs the art team were doing, decided he liked the 'Faceplate' one and wanted that design in the episode he was going to direct - which just happened to be "Context Is For Kings," the episode that introduced the Discovery's bridge crew. |
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Post by LazBro on Nov 1, 2017 13:52:06 GMT -5
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Nov 3, 2017 13:22:45 GMT -5
Are we sure there's a war? Why aren't we talking about that? What's happening with that? Hey, they did say this show was going to reflect real-world politics... |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Nov 4, 2017 0:42:22 GMT -5
I really liked this episode, even if it was just Cause and Effect with Stamets replacing Data (and don't they have some kind of robot on the bridge? What's her deal?). The short answer is it's unclear. The character's name is Airiam, but the official after show, After Trek, has referred to her both as an augmented alien or an augmented human. The latter appears to be the more definitive line as it came directly from one of the showrunners, but the idea that she is an alien has been supported by one of the writers, so. It would be very un-Trek for this character to be an augmented human. Especially as the Admiral in Episode 6 was yelling at Lorca about allowing Stamets to take on Tardigrade DNA and hook himself into the engines. And I mean she was upset not because of what this is doing to Stamets - no one seems to care about that - but she was upset that he was breaking Starfleet regs about DNA experimentation on humans. |
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Nov 10, 2017 11:04:20 GMT -5
The alien planet in Si vis pacem, para bellum is the Niagara Escarpment! So weird.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Nov 11, 2017 2:40:40 GMT -5
The alien planet in Si vis pacem, para bellum is the Niagara Escarpment! So weird. Better than Vasquez Rocks, I guess. This latest episode.... It kinda made no sense. Not in the kind of irritating way that episode 4 made no sense. But more in a "I can't figure out if this is meant to be confusing or if they're just bad writers" kind of way. The Klingon story in this show is an utter mess. If these writers can salvage this and actually make something interesting out of I will be very impressed. I don't understand anything that is happening here nor WHY anything is happening. It also seems strange to me that Kol is being portrayed as the villain when he is the only Klingon who is acting remotely like any Klingon we've met in any other series. I don't understand the point of the entire war. And to be specific to this episode, I have no idea what L'Rell was trying to accomplish. I also don't understand why Kol was totally cool with her killing his most high profile POW. And by "totally cool" I mean, he didn't execute her on the spot. L'Rell has said several times that she comes from a house of "deceivers", but this seemed less like a cunning plan and more like she was just making everything up as she went along. And at the end Kol just decides she's lying because.... reasons. ? ? I mean, she's obviously lying. But, about what? Who the hell knows? Wow, this part of the story is just so, so, so bad. I think these writers need to watch DS9 seasons 6 and 7 to understand how to write scenes from the Enemy perspective. And maybe need to realize that you need to earn your story. DS9 wouldn't have been great if it had STARTED in Season 6. The plot on the planet was..... weird. Like, Saru undermined their mission, put them in danger, and actually beat the shit out of Burnham and he *wasn't* possessed by the aliens? He just liked it b/c he felt safe there? Why not just stay there and let Burnham and Tyler go? To reiterate, he beat the shit out of Burnham. Because he wasn't afraid? What??? And at the end, Burnham's like, "It's cool, bro." It reminded me of my reaction to "The Sword of Kahless" from DS9 season 4, when Worf and Kor start acting like paranoid killers. And you think the sword itself has some power that is affecting them, but the writers are like, "Nah, they just went power mad". Um, what? Are our Starfleet officers that easily corrupted? If they had worked it more like Spock in "This Side of Paradise" then it would have been better. I feel like that is kind of what they were going for, but when he violently attacked Burnham just for trying to leave, it all fell apart for me. And now some higher power aliens are going to try to get the Klingons and Federation to stop fighting? This seems pointless. It's like the Organians, but not as powerful, so they can't actually do anything. Finally, I want to say - again - that this show has now accrued a horrible track record with its powerful female characters. Are the writers paying attention to this? Casting women in powerful roles is great, but they have effectively fridged 3 out of the 4 of them, and Burnham is the 4th. It's been 8 episodes. This is disappointing to say the least. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 11:32:05 GMT -5
I've come to like this show way more than I expected and now I'm pissed I have to wait until January for more. Also, re: the last episode, and SPOILERS, obviously...Gabriel Lorca, Shady as Fuck: |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Nov 15, 2017 1:48:12 GMT -5
That screen shot seems to be relating to the 133 jumps it made during the experiment to get the algorithm that would penetrate the cloak. They had to make 133 jumps. Why is Lorca's override before jump 133? We saw jump 133 and the results of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 2:13:17 GMT -5
That screen shot seems to be relating to the 133 jumps it made during the experiment to get the algorithm that would penetrate the cloak. They had to make 133 jumps. Why is Lorca's override before jump 133? We saw jump 133 and the results of it. Until I learn otherwise, my assumption is that's a production error re: the numbering. He inputs something before the final jump so it'd make more sense for it to be him doing something to jump 134. |
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Dec 1, 2017 15:11:37 GMT -5
I'm watching a repeat of the first "real" episode (i.e. not the pilot...whatever this episode is called), and Lorca is pretty much responsible for the death of the pilot of the prisoner shuttle, right? But no one ever mentions that guy again.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 2, 2017 19:14:33 GMT -5
I'm watching a repeat of the first "real" episode (i.e. not the pilot...whatever this episode is called), and Lorca is pretty much responsible for the death of the pilot of the prisoner shuttle, right? But no one ever mentions that guy again. It's not really clear what happened there. The pilot went out of the shuttle to deal with an electricity-feeding species of creature, lost control of the situation and she lost her tether connecting her to the shuttle - which was shortly before the shuttle was picked up by the Discovery. It's possible the Discovery had only just arrived, and too late to save the pilot... which, yeah, is suspiciously good timing. It's also possible the Discovery also saved the pilot - while the pilot is never mentioned or seen again we know the other prisoners eventually re-board the transport and are sent on their way, presumably with someone at the helm. That person may have been part of Discovery's crew or the original pilot who may have been recuperating offscreen somewhere (perhaps even with this mythical CMO characters have mentioned in dialogue but which we have never seen.) Lot of suppositions for this one to work, maybe unlikely, but does it underline how little information we have about what happened here. But if malice was intended, what was going on here? Lorca definitely wants Burnham in his crew. He can only get her because of this happenstance assistance to a prison transport; the Admiralty is initially very resistant to the idea of her working on Discovery at all, when they learn about his decision ex post facto. It would be therefore convenient for Lorca for a problem to develop with the transport, giving him a plausible reason to offer an assist, but for this to work he would also need to have created the problem otherwise he's still just benefiting from an enormous convenience. There's no evidence that Lorca is specifically aware or had access to the kind of creature that fed on the shuttle (Species GS54) but we know Discovery has a large amount of study information on some very strange stellar phenomena and Lorca personally has a menagerie filled with strange remains, and even some creatures. Add to this that we now know Lorca is not above allowing fellow officers to die should it fit with his mission and we see a pattern: The death of the Starfleet officer overseeing the prisoners also gives him full discretion to deal with those prisoners as he sees fit until the Admiralty comes calling. |
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Post by Prole Hole on Jan 14, 2018 17:19:38 GMT -5
Remember I said I was going to review this show?
I'm not going to review this show.
The first half of the season actually ended really well, and I was... well, not stoked for it's January return, but looking forward to seeing what they might do with it at any rate. Hey they're somewhere new! That's cool - lost, but not in a Voyager way, isolated, but not in a Deep Space Nine way, possibilities to explore something new, but not in a TOS/TNG way.
Wait, what's that? It's the Mirror Universe again?
Fuck.
That.
I'll probably idly keep watching it, because it's on Netflix and there's not much else I watch on a Monday evening. But "it's on while I'm cooking" is now the limits of how much attention I'm paying to this show. Maybe if it does turn out to be an anthology of seasons I'll try and expend more brainpower come Season 2, but for now? Na.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jan 15, 2018 1:44:25 GMT -5
Remember I said I was going to review this show? I'm not going to review this show. The first half of the season actually ended really well, and I was... well, not stoked for it's January return, but looking forward to seeing what they might do with it at any rate. Hey they're somewhere new! That's cool - lost, but not in a Voyager way, isolated, but not in a Deep Space Nine way, possibilities to explore something new, but not in a TOS/TNG way. Wait, what's that? It's the Mirror Universe again? Fuck. That. I'll probably idly keep watching it, because it's on Netflix and there's not much else I watch on a Monday evening. But "it's on while I'm cooking" is now the limits of how much attention I'm paying to this show. Maybe if it does turn out to be an anthology of seasons I'll try and expend more brainpower come Season 2, but for now? Na. I mean, I knew it was the Mirror Universe because Jonathan Frakes said - even before the series started airing - that he directed an episode that took place in the Mirror Universe. I became much less excited at that point. So, the ending of the first half was, for me, deflating, because I knew they were just going back to a story that I feel has been entirely overplayed by Trek at this point. I haven't even watched either of the new episodes. Will probably try to binge the second half once it has finished airing for this season. But, I'm not very interested at this point. |
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Post by Prole Hole on Jan 15, 2018 7:22:19 GMT -5
I wasn't aware of the MU up front or I'd have been even less enthusiastic about the show. But it feel like the least interesting, most creatively bankrupt choice they could possible have taken.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jan 15, 2018 13:41:09 GMT -5
I'll probably idly keep watching it, because it's on Netflix and there's not much else I watch on a Monday evening. But "it's on while I'm cooking" is now the limits of how much attention I'm paying to this show. Maybe if it does turn out to be an anthology of seasons I'll try and expend more brainpower come Season 2, but for now? Na. I enjoyed the pilot, but everything I’ve heard since has been like a giant, flashing “stay away.” I might have otherwise checked it out, but it’s kind of the converse to me—since it’s siloed in the US on CBS All Access, it’s so easy to not watch so why bother? I never thought there’d be a time where there’d be Trek on TV and I just wouldn’t care at all. |
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Post by Prole Hole on Jan 15, 2018 13:46:27 GMT -5
I'll probably idly keep watching it, because it's on Netflix and there's not much else I watch on a Monday evening. But "it's on while I'm cooking" is now the limits of how much attention I'm paying to this show. Maybe if it does turn out to be an anthology of seasons I'll try and expend more brainpower come Season 2, but for now? Na. I enjoyed the pilot, but everything I’ve heard since has been like a giant, flashing “stay away.” I might have otherwise checked it out, but it’s kind of the converse to me—since it’s siloed in the US on CBS All Access, it’s so easy to not watch so why bother? I never thought there’d be a time where there’d be Trek on TV and I just wouldn’t care at all. Yeah, same, this exactly. Even Enterprise I was more invested in. Sad, really - for me I guess that means the Abramsverse is keeping things going for now... And that's not a sentence I thought I'd be writing... |
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Post by Hippo on Jan 15, 2018 13:48:35 GMT -5
There's always The Orville, probably couldn't have picked a better time to have that airing with STD dying from abject shitiness.
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