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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Jul 2, 2024 9:13:58 GMT -5
Our deck is at least 25 years old, and this summer it's starting to feel a little spongy. There's a builder's tag on it in one spot, and all this time I've assumed that when we were ready to replace it, I'd just call them. Of course, they are no longer located in New Jersey. So... now I don't even know whom to talk to about fixing this. I've reached out to some local landscape/hardscape designers and they don't do decks. Sigh. Sometimes home ownership is the worst. You prob need a carpenter or contractor who does decks. Good luck. Homeownership is so fun.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Jul 22, 2024 8:22:14 GMT -5
None too soon, but we're replacing our couch finally - we ordered a custom one yesterday (it's not THAT custom, just specific fabric we wanted) and it'll be six weeks or so before it's here. Meanwhile the current/old one is just a hot mess, with sagging back cushions and seat cushions that are definitely on their last legs.
Next up is a new mattress... and then maybe I can convince TWBE to talk to a remodeler about our options for redoing the first floor -- nothing SO dramatic, just new surfaces - floors, countertops, cabinets. Our first-floor flooring is saaaad.
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Post by Baron von Costume on Jul 23, 2024 10:40:21 GMT -5
None too soon, but we're replacing our couch finally - we ordered a custom one yesterday (it's not THAT custom, just specific fabric we wanted) and it'll be six weeks or so before it's here. Meanwhile the current/old one is just a hot mess, with sagging back cushions and seat cushions that are definitely on their last legs. Next up is a new mattress... and then maybe I can convince TWBE to talk to a remodeler about our options for redoing the first floor -- nothing SO dramatic, just new surfaces - floors, countertops, cabinets. Our first-floor flooring is saaaad. I feel your pain, I've wanted to redo my first floor(ing) since moving in 9 years ago and it's getting to the point where I want to scream when I see the bad parquet in my living room getting worse
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Aug 7, 2024 9:01:17 GMT -5
We just discovered that a creeping vine/ivy sort of ground cover that's in our back yard (planted by a previous owner) is now growing up a column inside the windowseat that juts out over that ivy bed. As in, it's growing up through the seat of the window, inside the house. Jesus Christ, can there just be ONE day where being responsible for this house isn't a headache?!
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Aug 8, 2024 19:55:57 GMT -5
Hot heaters sure are expensive, aren't they?
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 12, 2024 15:24:37 GMT -5
Hot heaters sure are expensive, aren't they? Cold heaters are a lot cheaper but they work like absolute ass.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 14, 2024 8:10:23 GMT -5
After years of discussion and delay, our street/HOA started replacing siding this week. It will take several months and if I understand the pattern correctly, our house will be toward the end in November-ish. TWBE's major concern is that this will interfere with putting Christmas lights up. Of course, I haven't told him that we're responsible for a special assessment. Which is about $8,000. We will have several options to pay it off - one lump sump, 12 payments over the course of a year, or monthly payments for 10 years. As much as the $92 monthly payments for 10 years is appealing, there are a couple caveats - first is that it adds on about $3k in interest over the life of it; second is that if we were to move/sell the house we'd have to disclose the assessment to the buyer and possibly pay the rest off then. So... I will probably just suck it up and pay it within a year and not tell him (We have the money in savings, it's just a pain.)
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 14, 2024 16:32:08 GMT -5
After years of discussion and delay, our street/HOA started replacing siding this week. It will take several months and if I understand the pattern correctly, our house will be toward the end in November-ish. TWBE's major concern is that this will interfere with putting Christmas lights up. Of course, I haven't told him that we're responsible for a special assessment. Which is about $8,000. We will have several options to pay it off - one lump sump, 12 payments over the course of a year, or monthly payments for 10 years. As much as the $92 monthly payments for 10 years is appealing, there are a couple caveats - first is that it adds on about $3k in interest over the life of it; second is that if we were to move/sell the house we'd have to disclose the assessment to the buyer and possibly pay the rest off then. So... I will probably just suck it up and pay it within a year and not tell him (We have the money in savings, it's just a pain.) Count your blessings, when I had my siding redone last year it was $32,000 with paint.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 14, 2024 20:50:54 GMT -5
After years of discussion and delay, our street/HOA started replacing siding this week. It will take several months and if I understand the pattern correctly, our house will be toward the end in November-ish. TWBE's major concern is that this will interfere with putting Christmas lights up. Of course, I haven't told him that we're responsible for a special assessment. Which is about $8,000. We will have several options to pay it off - one lump sump, 12 payments over the course of a year, or monthly payments for 10 years. As much as the $92 monthly payments for 10 years is appealing, there are a couple caveats - first is that it adds on about $3k in interest over the life of it; second is that if we were to move/sell the house we'd have to disclose the assessment to the buyer and possibly pay the rest off then. So... I will probably just suck it up and pay it within a year and not tell him (We have the money in savings, it's just a pain.) Count your blessings, when I had my siding redone last year it was $32,000 with paint. Yeah, would definitely be worse in a single family home - these are townhomes. And no paint except trim. But good to know!
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Aug 20, 2024 8:22:42 GMT -5
When we bought our house (19 years ago!) our realtor raved about how lovely it was because a previous long-term owner had been a carpenter, and he'd lovingly done all these upgrades during the many years he'd lived there. There were the built-ins in the living room, the wet bar in the downstairs den, the huge deck, and so on. Upon moving in we discovered that this previous owner had been a shitty carpenter, and all of those things were of questionable build quality. The built-ins in the living room are sort of a blessing and a curse (they look crappy, but they work and take up the entire wall, so we've left them be), the wet bar came out as soon as we could address it, and the deck is fantastic but when we had a contractor in a couple of weeks ago to talk about repairs to it (it's showing its age now) he marveled at the construction of it. "I've never seen another deck built like this!" he kept raving, and I was concerned he was going to start taking photos to post to his social media, all, "Get a load of THIS insanity! Have you ever SEEN a stupider deck?" Because that would be very on-brand for our house and that mythical carpenter former owner. He did a lot more to the house than we were originally led to believe, structural stuff (most without permits), and it's like a cursed Easter egg hunt -- over the years we keep having new disasters pop up in unexpected places that require more expensive repair.
And now? Now we've found out what was wrong with the picture window in that downstairs den (of crappy wet bar fame). As previously posted, this is a big window with a deep sill, one that juts out a couple of feet over a bed of some kind of ground-cover vine in the backyard. And is the one where the ground-cover vine is suddenly growing up through the middle of the deep sill inside the house. We had a contractor out to look at it last week, and he discovered that the window is just sort of stuck onto the house. Like, the board underneath it is just... next to the wall. No flashing, no sealing, just... there. And in the decades since it was so slapdashedly attached to the house, it's developed a gap between itself and the wall of the house. That is now full of ground-cover vine that we never noticed was growing up there, because this window is only a few inches above the ground. If I ever get a chance to meet the guy who did all this shit to my house... I just don't know. No jury would convict me of whatever I did to him, though.
So now we're going to have to do exploratory surgery on the window and wall to see exactly how much vine has gotten into how much of that side of the house. I can't wait.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 21, 2024 12:00:04 GMT -5
Update: the siding work has begun (our unit won't be for awhile) and I got an FAQ about the project that casually notes that our houses, which were built in 1994, did not include house wrap. So, the work will include that, which is nice.
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Post by GumTurkeyles on Aug 22, 2024 11:04:31 GMT -5
When we bought our house (19 years ago!) our realtor raved about how lovely it was because a previous long-term owner had been a carpenter, and he'd lovingly done all these upgrades during the many years he'd lived there. There were the built-ins in the living room, the wet bar in the downstairs den, the huge deck, and so on. Upon moving in we discovered that this previous owner had been a shitty carpenter, and all of those things were of questionable build quality. The built-ins in the living room are sort of a blessing and a curse (they look crappy, but they work and take up the entire wall, so we've left them be), the wet bar came out as soon as we could address it, and the deck is fantastic but when we had a contractor in a couple of weeks ago to talk about repairs to it (it's showing its age now) he marveled at the construction of it. "I've never seen another deck built like this!" he kept raving, and I was concerned he was going to start taking photos to post to his social media, all, "Get a load of THIS insanity! Have you ever SEEN a stupider deck?" Because that would be very on-brand for our house and that mythical carpenter former owner. He did a lot more to the house than we were originally led to believe, structural stuff (most without permits), and it's like a cursed Easter egg hunt -- over the years we keep having new disasters pop up in unexpected places that require more expensive repair. And now? Now we've found out what was wrong with the picture window in that downstairs den (of crappy wet bar fame). As previously posted, this is a big window with a deep sill, one that juts out a couple of feet over a bed of some kind of ground-cover vine in the backyard. And is the one where the ground-cover vine is suddenly growing up through the middle of the deep sill inside the house. We had a contractor out to look at it last week, and he discovered that the window is just sort of stuck onto the house. Like, the board underneath it is just... next to the wall. No flashing, no sealing, just... there. And in the decades since it was so slapdashedly attached to the house, it's developed a gap between itself and the wall of the house. That is now full of ground-cover vine that we never noticed was growing up there, because this window is only a few inches above the ground. If I ever get a chance to meet the guy who did all this shit to my house... I just don't know. No jury would convict me of whatever I did to him, though. So now we're going to have to do exploratory surgery on the window and wall to see exactly how much vine has gotten into how much of that side of the house. I can't wait. The previous owner of my house was similarly "skilled" in DIWhy carpentry. There were two makeshift work benches in the boiler section of the basement. I was taking one of them down and was having some issue, when my wife noted that it was physically connected to the water line coming in the house. For some reason, the table was build around and supporting that line. The table itself was made of a door, with dozens of shims or other weird sections of wood used to level it out. There was a 1960's power saw that was built into the table to make it a (very unsafe) table saw. Fortunately, as far as we can tell, there was never anything structural modified.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Aug 22, 2024 11:09:45 GMT -5
The previous owner of my house was similarly "skilled" in DIWhy carpentry. There were two makeshift work benches in the boiler section of the basement. I was taking one of them down and was having some issue, when my wife noted that it was physically connected to the water line coming in the house. For some reason, the table was build around and supporting that line. The table itself was made of a door, with dozens of shims or other weird sections of wood used to level it out. There was a 1960's power saw that was built into the table to make it a (very unsafe) table saw. Fortunately, as far as we can tell, there was never anything structural modified. Oh my god, that's insane! Connected to the water line? That's even more nuts than the stupid shit that was done at our house! (And I love the term "DIWhy"!)
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 22, 2024 11:15:39 GMT -5
I can't blame any random DIYer for our house's issues, it was definitely cheaping out on the part of the initial builder (And then the previous owner never updating anything.) One mystery we may never solve: the door between our laundry room and our kitchen has a rectangular hole cut out of it. Not very neatly. Toward the bottom, but high enough that it doesn't really make sense as a cat door, although a cat could fit through it I suppose. It's a real head-scratcher.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 22, 2024 13:19:09 GMT -5
I can't blame any random DIYer for our house's issues, it was definitely cheaping out on the part of the initial builder (And then the previous owner never updating anything.) One mystery we may never solve: the door between our laundry room and our kitchen has a rectangular hole cut out of it. Not very neatly. Toward the bottom, but high enough that it doesn't really make sense as a cat door, although a cat could fit through it I suppose. It's a real head-scratcher. $5 says someone kicked a hole in the door, started the work of fixing it by cutting off the ragged edges, and then never got around to finishing it.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 22, 2024 13:21:49 GMT -5
I can't blame any random DIYer for our house's issues, it was definitely cheaping out on the part of the initial builder (And then the previous owner never updating anything.) One mystery we may never solve: the door between our laundry room and our kitchen has a rectangular hole cut out of it. Not very neatly. Toward the bottom, but high enough that it doesn't really make sense as a cat door, although a cat could fit through it I suppose. It's a real head-scratcher. $5 says someone kicked a hole in the door, started the work of fixing it by cutting off the ragged edges, and then never got around to finishing it. Yknow, that's entirely plausible.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 26, 2024 7:34:00 GMT -5
I gotta tell y'all, some of my neighbors are being kind of obnoxious in a way that's making me sympathetic to the HOA board.
We have lived here 13 years - in fact, we just hit the 13th anniversary. There are about 80 individual units on the street. The assessment has only gone up $120 in that time. They have done a lot of projects within the budget in that time - entirely replacing driveways, replacing roofs, smaller scale stuff like tree removal and replacement, drainage upgrades, fence repair, etc. The houses are 30 years old and replacing the siding has been a topic of discussion for at least 6-7 years. In that time, the costs of replacement have gone up, naturally. They finally determined we'd do it now, and that yes, a special assessment was needed so we didn't tap out our funds completely. There are currently 3 options to pay the assessment off - all at once, over the course of a year, or over 10 years with interest.
Suddenly, all these neighbors are coming out of the woodwork to complain. There's a Facebook group. People are big mad. It's the classic "why didn't you warn me?" Again, six years, it's been discussed regularly. They warned us there might be a special assessment. Nobody wanted to raise the regular assessment enough to pay for it ahead of time. Why were you not involved and going to board meetings earlier if you cared so much???
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 9, 2024 12:32:18 GMT -5
As an update: My neighbors are probably dipshits.
Someone started a petition and put little papers in everyone's mailbox. The way *I* read the petition was that they wanted to feel heard by the board and wanted another repayment option beyond the 3 that were offered (in full, over 1 year, over 10 years). Instead, serving the petition to the board got them a special meeting for next week with a vote to CANCEL the special assessment. Which would have serious legal ramifications, be a giant clusterfork, and I would like to emphasize that the work is currently underway and three buildings have been completed already.
They would need 75% of the homeowners to vote NO/against the special assessment in order to cancel it, and that seems unlikely, but .... I'm sorry, that's dumb. The work is happening! It will improve our houses! If you cared that much why didn't you show up to meetings or run for the board??
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 9, 2024 14:01:03 GMT -5
Every post by Pedantic Editor Type makes me more and more glad I don't live in an HOA. I imagine my house being policed by the wackos on Nextdoor and cringe. The one time I did live in an HOA it was only $100/year and that mostly paid for the neighborhood park. I cannot imagine signing over so many rights that a non-governmental entity would be able to force me to spend my own money. We got into a bit of spat during our last library construction project because something unforeseen had come up. The contractor did his best to fix the issue, but my director just asked, "Is this going to cost the library money?" When the answer was yes, then he had a long talk about how no one could spend our money but us.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 9, 2024 14:06:05 GMT -5
Every post by Pedantic Editor Type makes me more and more glad I don't live in an HOA. I imagine my house being policed by the wackos on Nextdoor and cringe. The one time I did live in an HOA it was only $100/year and that mostly paid for the neighborhood park. I cannot imagine signing over so many rights that a non-governmental entity would be able to force me to spend my own money. We got into a bit of spat during our last library construction project because something unforeseen had come up. The contractor did his best to fix the issue, but my director just asked, "Is this going to cost the library money?" When the answer was yes, then he had a long talk about how no one could spend our money but us. We've lived here 13 years and this is the first major drama - and I'm on the board's side! It's my neighbors who are morons. I like not having to worry about replacing or fixing exterior things or shoveling snow. But, I get it.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Sept 9, 2024 15:09:23 GMT -5
Every post by Pedantic Editor Type makes me more and more glad I don't live in an HOA. I imagine my house being policed by the wackos on Nextdoor and cringe. The one time I did live in an HOA it was only $100/year and that mostly paid for the neighborhood park. I cannot imagine signing over so many rights that a non-governmental entity would be able to force me to spend my own money. We got into a bit of spat during our last library construction project because something unforeseen had come up. The contractor did his best to fix the issue, but my director just asked, "Is this going to cost the library money?" When the answer was yes, then he had a long talk about how no one could spend our money but us. A coworker was once joking with me about how much she loved living without an HOA and said something that has become one of the major themes at stately Dick n Hisses Manor: "I don't have an HOA, which means I can plant a tree upside-down in my front yard if I want to!" HOAs in neighborhoods with free-standing houses are the ABSOLUTE WORST; when we lived in Arizona we had one and had a very short list of acceptable landscaping options (ground cover surface and plants) and an even more restricted choice of paint colors. We didn't live there long enough to get on anyone's "tut tut" list, but it would definitely eventually have happened. I currently live in a little 1950's neighborhood, but with one street a block up from us having been added in the '80s. We don't have an HOA, but that street does. Hugs went to a physical therapist for a while last year who, it turns out, lives on that street; he told her that he had his house repainted a brilliant aqua color (I know the house, and love the color!), not realizing there even were HOA restrictions. The HOA eventually sent someone to tell him that the house color wasn't approved, and he just told them, "Well, it's on the house now and I'm not changing it." They tried to stammer some protests at him, but ultimately had to agree that it wasn't worth the fight. If only every HOA could be like that! Anyway, I've also lived in townhouse developments, with shared walls and community areas, and with those I totally get needing an HOA.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 9, 2024 17:34:50 GMT -5
Every post by Pedantic Editor Type makes me more and more glad I don't live in an HOA. I imagine my house being policed by the wackos on Nextdoor and cringe. The one time I did live in an HOA it was only $100/year and that mostly paid for the neighborhood park. I cannot imagine signing over so many rights that a non-governmental entity would be able to force me to spend my own money. We got into a bit of spat during our last library construction project because something unforeseen had come up. The contractor did his best to fix the issue, but my director just asked, "Is this going to cost the library money?" When the answer was yes, then he had a long talk about how no one could spend our money but us. We've lived here 13 years and this is the first major drama - and I'm on the board's side! It's my neighbors who are morons. I like not having to worry about replacing or fixing exterior things or shoveling snow. But, I get it. And I get it, especially when it comes to condos or townhouses. Someone has to make those decisions. I always felt bad when we lived in between two retired couples who kept their lawns immaculate. I was the overworked young dad who did not have time for much more than mowing periodically. But I was glad they couldn't fine me or anything either.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 9, 2024 17:39:57 GMT -5
Every post by Pedantic Editor Type makes me more and more glad I don't live in an HOA. I imagine my house being policed by the wackos on Nextdoor and cringe. The one time I did live in an HOA it was only $100/year and that mostly paid for the neighborhood park. I cannot imagine signing over so many rights that a non-governmental entity would be able to force me to spend my own money. We got into a bit of spat during our last library construction project because something unforeseen had come up. The contractor did his best to fix the issue, but my director just asked, "Is this going to cost the library money?" When the answer was yes, then he had a long talk about how no one could spend our money but us. A coworker was once joking with me about how much she loved living without an HOA and said something that has become one of the major themes at stately Dick n Hisses Manor: "I don't have an HOA, which means I can plant a tree upside-down in my front yard if I want to!" HOAs in neighborhoods with free-standing houses are the ABSOLUTE WORST; when we lived in Arizona we had one and had a very short list of acceptable landscaping options (ground cover surface and plants) and an even more restricted choice of paint colors. We didn't live there long enough to get on anyone's "tut tut" list, but it would definitely eventually have happened. I currently live in a little 1950's neighborhood, but with one street a block up from us having been added in the '80s. We don't have an HOA, but that street does. Hugs went to a physical therapist for a while last year who, it turns out, lives on that street; he told her that he had his house repainted a brilliant aqua color (I know the house, and love the color!), not realizing there even were HOA restrictions. The HOA eventually sent someone to tell him that the house color wasn't approved, and he just told them, "Well, it's on the house now and I'm not changing it." They tried to stammer some protests at him, but ultimately had to agree that it wasn't worth the fight. If only every HOA could be like that! Anyway, I've also lived in townhouse developments, with shared walls and community areas, and with those I totally get needing an HOA. Yeah I would never want an HOA in a single family house, for the record. i have an update on this situation for later…
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 10, 2024 7:35:29 GMT -5
One of my coworkers is also my neighbor - I discovered this when I started here; we hadn't met on our street yet (he lives alone and isn't out wandering around a lot) but now we are friendly and keep each other up to date on things. He is more plugged in to the siding drama than I am, and is part of a WhatsApp and Facebook group about it.
He forwarded me an email last night; all communications have been going through the service manager at the property management office who handles this stuff (they're local - the office is literally 2 minutes from the end of our street - and I should note that all of the HOA board members are also homeowners).
So long story short is, at the meeting next week, the board will be presenting another payment option, and also going through what would happen if my dipshit neighbors DID manage to cancel the assessment: they'd have to stop work immediately, because the board wouldn't be able to get a loan; the construction company would probably sue us; and our regular monthly assessment rates would go WAY up because they have to finish this work somehow. (I told you they were idiots.)
I sincerely hope that reason will save the day and people will be satisfied with the additional payment option.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Sept 10, 2024 7:59:55 GMT -5
Yeah I would never want an HOA in a single family house, for the record. As with everything, there are always tradeoffs. Our HOA (well, they call it a POA here, but its the same thing) provides a number of amenities at prices that would much higher if we had to get it individually. This is especially true for water and cable service (including internet). Sure, there are amenities that I fund that I don't currently use (fishing, golf), but I could potentially do that when I retire. (We did do fishing for awhile when my son was younger and interested, but he has lost interest in fishing.)
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Post by Powerthirteen on Sept 10, 2024 10:29:16 GMT -5
My house is not in a neighborhood with an HOA, but my friend who lives a quarter mile down the road is in one, and from our conversations about it his appears to be quite reasonable. That's probably not the case for the majority of them, but I do think that there are, at least, a sizeable minority of perfectly reasonable HOAs that provide significant benefits. They're just uninteresting and get no traction on the internet.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 10, 2024 10:33:56 GMT -5
I'm sure there are cases where HOAs provide reasonable benefits and so forth. I should amend my statement: I would never want an HOA *as restrictive as ours* in a SFH - because it does dictate things like planting and when decorations can go up and yadda yadda. If it were simply for common amenities or road plowing or something that would be different.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Sept 10, 2024 13:34:22 GMT -5
I'm sure there are cases where HOAs provide reasonable benefits and so forth. I should amend my statement: I would never want an HOA *as restrictive as ours* in a SFH - because it does dictate things like planting and when decorations can go up and yadda yadda. If it were simply for common amenities or road plowing or something that would be different. WHEN DECORATIONS CAN GO UP? Oh man, I would have to move. How restrictive are they? I've got Halloween lights up right now (although they are technically inside the house, but strung so as to be visible from outside. I'd use that as my loophole if my imaginary HOA raised a stink...), but one house on my drive home from work already has six huge inflatable Halloween things on their lawn. And... I kinda love them for it!
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 10, 2024 13:54:08 GMT -5
I'm sure there are cases where HOAs provide reasonable benefits and so forth. I should amend my statement: I would never want an HOA *as restrictive as ours* in a SFH - because it does dictate things like planting and when decorations can go up and yadda yadda. If it were simply for common amenities or road plowing or something that would be different. WHEN DECORATIONS CAN GO UP? Oh man, I would have to move. How restrictive are they? I've got Halloween lights up right now (although they are technically inside the house, but strung so as to be visible from outside. I'd use that as my loophole if my imaginary HOA raised a stink...), but one house on my drive home from work already has six huge inflatable Halloween things on their lawn. And... I kinda love them for it! For Christmas it's a month beforehand and a month after; for other holidays it's a month before and a week after. (Nobody is gonna get dinged for 8 or 9 days, though.) And just from looking at our documents again, it looks like our Santa Vader is technically not allowed, but nobody has ever complained.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 10, 2024 15:24:49 GMT -5
I'm sure there are cases where HOAs provide reasonable benefits and so forth. I should amend my statement: I would never want an HOA *as restrictive as ours* in a SFH - because it does dictate things like planting and when decorations can go up and yadda yadda. If it were simply for common amenities or road plowing or something that would be different. WHEN DECORATIONS CAN GO UP? Oh man, I would have to move. How restrictive are they? I've got Halloween lights up right now (although they are technically inside the house, but strung so as to be visible from outside. I'd use that as my loophole if my imaginary HOA raised a stink...), but one house on my drive home from work already has six huge inflatable Halloween things on their lawn. And... I kinda love them for it! I got some fancy color changing lights, so now they stay up all year. I just leave them a neutral yellow or white until each holiday comes around. JFC! And yes, I know that the horror stories are the exceptions and most people in HOAs live there without much trouble. There is a trade off in that one of my neighbors has started to repair cars in his back yard and another just last week brought home three pitbulls and is keeping them in a flimsy cage while they bark 24/7. But I guess I like the messy freedom over tidy regulations. I know no one would bat an eye if I were to put skeletons on stripper poles for my Halloween decorations this year.
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