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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 8, 2017 10:29:33 GMT -5
Man, it's a sad sight in here for all of us seed starters. My excited report about our peppers germinating was perhaps premature. Or overblown. There are, like, TWO pepper sprouts starting to show up. They're being distressingly slow this year.
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Post by π cahusserole π on Mar 8, 2017 13:23:05 GMT -5
For all you bemoaning your seedlings, here is a proof that winter will end. Less than a week until these go into the ground. Thankfully Djse's witty November moniker they seem to have survived their first night outdoors.
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Mar 9, 2017 23:07:59 GMT -5
Still no sign of life from the Poncirus trifoliata seeds. I doubled up on every other row in my Jiffy Pro-Hex tray, so there are 108 seeds in there. I'd be happy with 10% germination, but it ain't looking so hot. WE HAVE SPROUTS. I REPEAT, WE HAVE SPROUTS.
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Post by moimoi on Mar 10, 2017 1:01:48 GMT -5
Fingers crossed, my beloved tulips are back! Also my beloved daffodils :-)
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Mar 10, 2017 9:16:00 GMT -5
I'm just poking my head in here to say that I have not yet killed my indoor basil plant, which is a victory considering I accidentally overwatered it at first.
We have a triangular front garden that gets lots of sunlight and also has some shadier parts to it, and normally my mom and I pull up a bunch of weeds and half-assedly plant some annual flowers every spring just to keep it from looking totally barren. This year, I want to appropriate some of that garden for herbs. The basil will go in for sure, but I also want to do rosemary, sage. and lemon balm or lavender - I'm very interested in planting herbs that I can use to cook with, as well as herbs that are good for bees.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 10, 2017 11:49:20 GMT -5
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Post by π cahusserole π on Mar 15, 2017 1:47:17 GMT -5
So I planted everything yesterday, and it looked great (well, as great as dirt with tiny bits of green in it looks). I visit today and already a bunch of stuff has been nibbled at by insects (not sure what). I have strong doubts of anything still being alive when I get back in 3 weeks. I sprayed everything this evening with neem oil, not sure if that'll help.
I will check in again tomorrow before our redeye. Any suggestions? Some sort of soap+water solution?
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 15, 2017 10:06:44 GMT -5
So I planted everything yesterday, and it looked great (well, as great as dirt with tiny bits of green in it looks). I visit today and already a bunch of stuff has been nibbled at by insects (not sure what). I have strong doubts of anything still being alive when I get back in 3 weeks. I sprayed everything this evening with neem oil, not sure if that'll help. I will check in again tomorrow before our redeye. Any suggestions? Some sort of soap+water solution? Hmm. That's discouraging. Unfortunately I'm terrible about insect control. Either I go full nuclear, with all the most horrible toxic bullshit you can imagine, or I just live and let live. There's no middle ground for me. (And I feel terrible enough about using insecticide chemicals that, more often than not, the insects win.)
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Post by Baron von Costume on Mar 15, 2017 11:04:10 GMT -5
Sprout already dangit!
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Mar 15, 2017 20:58:31 GMT -5
Have faith! I'm at just about 35% germination on my trifoliate oranges so far, and a week ago I thought 10% would be a miracle.
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Post by Hugs and Hisses on Mar 16, 2017 9:10:03 GMT -5
So I planted everything yesterday, and it looked great (well, as great as dirt with tiny bits of green in it looks). I visit today and already a bunch of stuff has been nibbled at by insects (not sure what). I have strong doubts of anything still being alive when I get back in 3 weeks. I sprayed everything this evening with neem oil, not sure if that'll help. I will check in again tomorrow before our redeye. Any suggestions? Some sort of soap+water solution? What Liz said. But while we're on the topic of insect repelling, this might not help right now, but the other thing we do here at Dick 'n' Hisses manor is plant marigolds in the corner of every bed, and try to get nasturtiums going, too. We did the whole nematoads route one year but it didn't seem to do much, so now I'm all about passive bug control up until the nuclear toxic shit breaking point. Save
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 20, 2017 7:55:08 GMT -5
St. Patrick's Day is traditionally when you're supposed to plant peas. The holiday came and went here, and there's still a thick layer of ice on the garden beds.
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Post by Baron von Costume on Mar 20, 2017 9:57:39 GMT -5
St. Patrick's Day is traditionally when you're supposed to plant peas. The holiday came and went here, and there's still a thick layer of ice on the garden beds. oh boo hoo there's still 4 feet of snow on mine. otoh, my first few sprouts are up!
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Post by π cahusserole π on Mar 20, 2017 12:11:37 GMT -5
Well so much for all that.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 20, 2017 12:59:57 GMT -5
Well so much for all that. Yikes! Maybe the first part of that report is more accurate than the second part?
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Post by moimoi on Mar 20, 2017 17:41:48 GMT -5
This weekend I tidied up my garage/shed, put the rain barrels back in place, and sowed nasturtiums. I also bought a hellebore, cleaned up my bed of irises/tulips, and started the shade garden. Now I'm trying to find containers or locations for the other stuff I bought, like a grapevine and strawberries. I wish it would warm up soon!
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Post by ganews on Mar 21, 2017 7:22:53 GMT -5
We started seeds this past weekend, tomatoes, bell peppers, shishito, and eggplant. Life is easier since we discovered that cotton and okra grown just fine when casually scattered on the ground. I'll be spending the next eight weeks haranguing Wifemate in the middle of the day to adjust the planters/individual cups into the sunbeam. Sunday I went to get another pack of Shishito out of the freezer, and there are still so many beans in there. And now that I think about it, a giant pack of frozen tomatoes down at the bottom. Surely this year won't be as crazy productive as last year?
This Saturday is supposed to be a little warmer, maybe it will be good to get out to the plots and clean them up a little.
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Post by LazBro on Mar 22, 2017 8:31:41 GMT -5
I have before shared on this forum, if not this thread, that I am the world's worst gardner. Honestly, I don't know why we even try. We're both too lazy to deal with weeds, pests, rotation or watering. I don't even know what "going to seed" means and couldn't spot it when it happens. Here's a visual guide to my gardening abilities:
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 22, 2017 9:17:10 GMT -5
I have before shared on this forum, if not this thread, that I am the world's worst gardner. Honestly, I don't know why we even try. We're both too lazy to deal with weeds, pests, rotation or watering. I don't even know what "going to seed" means and couldn't spot it when it happens. Here's a visual guide to my gardening abilities: See, I think you're doing great with this! That's absolutely my model for growing herbs that will re-seed themselves and spread. I mean, look! You've established a patch of parsley, and now you have more room for other stuff! To wit, this is my garden at its absolute neatest: Those bushy plants in the middle of the gravel path? That's the catnip I don't have to bother planting anymore, because it very helpfully jumped the beds and now grows itself! That slight hint of dill flower you can see in the lower left corner? That's from the patch of dill that's now self-sowing on one entire end of the garden fence! You can see just the tiniest hint, kind of right in the middle of the gravel at the bottom of the picture, of our lovingly-tended cilantro field, which mostly grows itself on the path just out of frame to the left. Three key herb crops that don't take up any space in the beds proper, and need no specific tending! It's self-perpetuating gardening at its finest. Some might call them weeds, but some lack vision.
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Post by LazBro on Mar 22, 2017 9:22:40 GMT -5
I have before shared on this forum, if not this thread, that I am the world's worst gardner. Honestly, I don't know why we even try. We're both too lazy to deal with weeds, pests, rotation or watering. I don't even know what "going to seed" means and couldn't spot it when it happens. Here's a visual guide to my gardening abilities: See, I think you're doing great with this! That's absolutely my model for growing herbs that will re-seed themselves and spread. I mean, look! You've established a patch of parsley, and now you have more room for other stuff! To wit, this is my garden at its absolute neatest: Those bushy plants in the middle of the gravel path? That's the catnip I don't have to bother planting anymore, because it very helpfully jumped the beds and now grows itself! That slight hint of dill flower you can see in the lower left corner? That's from the patch of dill that's now self-sowing on one entire end of the garden fence! You can see just the tiniest hint, kind of right in the middle of the gravel at the bottom of the picture, of our lovingly-tended cilantro field, which mostly grows itself on the path just out of frame to the left. Three key herb crops that don't take up any space in the beds proper, and need no specific tending! It's self-perpetuating gardening at its finest. Some might call them weeds, but some lack vision. What the hell is with dill anyway. Whenever we try to grow it, we get these spiky, jagged and uninspired specimens, while the dill at the store is soft and tender, almost luscious. Most herbs we grow end up as good or better than store bought specimens, but dill is routinely bullshit. Do you know why that would be?
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Post by Hugs and Hisses on Mar 22, 2017 9:38:16 GMT -5
Looking at that picture Liz 'n' Dick posted, I'm reminded that my gardening goal for this year is to keep the garden tidy enough that a poisonous toad doesn't move in again.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 22, 2017 9:40:13 GMT -5
What the hell is with dill anyway. Whenever we try to grow it, we get these spiky, jagged and uninspired specimens, while the dill at the store is soft and tender, almost luscious. Most herbs we grow end up as good or better than store bought specimens, but dill is routinely bullshit. Do you know why that would be? I'm a dill dullard. It's not my favorite fresh herb, so my only use for it is the flowers, which I need for pickles. The stuff we grow seems to never get nice fronds at all -- it goes straight to flowering. I wonder if they need to be trimmed more, to encourage new leaf growth and keep the plant from putting all its efforts into its giant central flower stalk? ::shrugs:: For all that I put a lot of effort into gardening, I'm actually really bad at knowing what to do when it's not following plan. (In case you wanted a gardening lesson about "going to seed", that's when the plant stops focusing on its leafy growth, grows its flowers (or "bolts"), and then the flowers evolve into seed pods. Basically, the end of the life cycle of the plant. If, say, you were looking to get dill seeds out of your garden, then it's a good thing. But if you want nice young leafy fronds, bolting is undesirable, and once the plant's gone to seed, it's done.)
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 22, 2017 11:10:23 GMT -5
In orchard news, I got my shipment of baby trees from Trees of Antiquity last week, and got around to opening up today (I mean, it's not like I was going to plant them with all that ice...). I had remembered ordering a pear tree (an heirloom from the Philadelphia area), but I'd completely forgotten what the second tree was. Turns out it's a Pink Ume Apricot! I'm so excited! I really hope it works out, because there's little I like better than showy blossoms and then a fruit I can make elaborate-process pickles out of!
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Post by ganews on Mar 22, 2017 13:31:52 GMT -5
Aw shit, I got a message saying that the annual topsoil shipment to the community garden is coming this week, and I haven't done any prep for the plot at all. And we're supposed to be busy with anniversary celebrations this week. That topsoil gets snatched up. I guess I'm going to have to spend some time Thursday and Friday after work.
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Post by moimoi on Mar 22, 2017 21:45:22 GMT -5
Yesterday was the first meeting of my neighborhood garden club for the season. A couple years ago, we made a pollinator station on a corner using native plants. This year, we want to do 3-4 more. It's interesting to hear various philosophies among members. At one end of the spectrum, we have an older, somewhat eccentric gentleman who filled his lot with unkempt prairie that the neighbors hate. We have one lady whose husband is a landscape architect and who only plants native species (she can be a bit self-righteous about this, but she's cool). We have a boho-hippie who loves to talk sustainability, but insists on amending the soil with peat moss. We also have fancy ladies with big houses who prefer showy plants like roses and Japanese maple. I'm somewhere in the middle, since I regard myself less as a gardener and more as an amateur botanist. I could never go all native because if I want to enjoy the beauty of those plants I'll take a walk in the park. My postage stamp yard isn't a wild ramble; it's part of my home environment. I want plants and arrangements that make me happy when I look outside and even happier when I go outside for a frolic. Although I like the idea of planting natives for the purposes of drainage and hardiness, I also think that prairie plants make poor specimens - I mean, they're meant to grow along the highway and that's just what they do. Am I alone here? Who else has a gardening philosophy?
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 23, 2017 10:09:00 GMT -5
My gardening philosophy is just to grow things I can eat. I'm terrible at growing things that look nice, or making the things I'm decent at growing look good together. I would love to let my yard go to meadow, and am increasingly chill about letting various "planter" sorts of areas in the backyard run completely wild. Our lawn's all clover and things that look green, but aren't grass. It's mostly about being lazy, but also partly about enjoying all the wildlife that follows (except for poisonous frogs).
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Post by Baron von Costume on Mar 28, 2017 15:03:56 GMT -5
Well I came back from my weekend away to find a couple things:
-yay I have a fairly healthy crop of pepper sprouts now -boo my labels somehow got mixed up so now I can't remember which side is which in the 1st tray, and which of the many subsections in tray 2 is which pepper either
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Post by ganews on Mar 28, 2017 19:37:04 GMT -5
We started tomato, pepper, and eggplant seeds ten days ago and are starting to get tomato sprouts now.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 29, 2017 8:23:54 GMT -5
The second wave of seedlings were started this past weekend -- one type of tomato (seeds we saved from a volunteer from last year's garden), a few types of basil, one type of tomatillo, cumin (!), and scads of flowers. This is totally new to us, starting our own flowers seeds! We always have lots of marigolds in the garden, for pest repellence, so this year we're growing our own. Along with some zinnias, dahlias, and snapdragons. Crazy!
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Post by Hugs and Hisses on Mar 29, 2017 14:31:14 GMT -5
My gardening philosophy aligns with Liz n Dicksgiving -- if I can't eat it, I probably don't want to grow it. If I can eat it, I just want it to grow lots of what I can eat, whether it looks nice or not. That said, moimoi, I also think one should grow what one will find delight in! For example, I tried to grow peanuts once. Peanuts don't like growing in NJ, but it was a blast to try it out anyway. I totally get the whole native plant thing, but biodiversity is an awesome thing to experience firsthand. I grew up in an area that has tons and tons of cornfields, but I never saw a cornstalk up close until I grew it. The leaves are perfectly designed to funnel raindrops to the base of the plant. Its mesmerizing to watch in action. I wouldn't want to give up discoveries like that just to grow stuff that's native to NJ or to grow just stuff that will look pretty.
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