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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Oct 12, 2015 18:27:32 GMT -5
It was the end of the line for Stately Dick n Hisses Manor Farm & Orchard's 2015 garden: The final harvest today was a huge bowl of tomatillos, a bushel of banana peppers, and about two gallons of jalapenos. We're on vacation this week, so I'm hoping we'll be able to rebuild one of the beds, and then that will be where the garlic gets planted in a couple of weeks. After that, we just get to wait until spring. It's always funny how badly I look forward to the garden season starting, and then how happy and relieved I am when the time comes to shut it down. Now's the season for rest.
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Post by GumTurkeyles on Oct 20, 2015 6:19:18 GMT -5
It's always funny how badly I look forward to the garden season starting, and then how happy and relieved I am when the time comes to shut it down. Now's the season for rest.
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Post by ๐ cahusserole ๐ on Nov 4, 2015 13:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 25, 2016 15:58:40 GMT -5
It's never too early to start a new year's garden thread! Or, if you're in the southern hemisphere, I guess too late? How are all your gardens growing, or planning to be growing? We've ordered all our seeds for Garden 2016 and they're starting to trickle in. We'll be planting some old friends and some new faces, but the one I'm most excited about right now is a Mikado tomato -- check out the picture from the seed catalog. Good grief, but I want it to be summer right now so I can taste that tomato! Of course, it always turns out that the tomato variety I get most excited about in the winter ends up being the one that does the poorest, so maybe we should all have a moment of silence now to mourn what could have been for the Mikado tomato. The plan for this year is to do shelling peas, garlic, yellow and red onions, eight types of tomatoes, eight types of peppers (more sweet than hot; we learned the hard way last year that you can have far too many hot peppers), tomatillo, and regular pickling cucumbers and gherkins for sweet pickles. Last year we tried gherkins and regular picklers in the same bed, but didn't get enough yield of the gherkins to try pickling them. So this year we'll dedicate more space and put in more vines of the gherkins. I'm still not 100% sure where we'll dedicate that space, but we'll find a way. While seed shopping I also impulse-bought an heirloom crabapple tree that won't be shipped until spring of 2017, so I have plenty of time for one of the existing baby fruit trees to fail and leave an empty spot in the orchard. If one doesn't fail, we, uh, totally have room for another tree... somewhere. ::shifty eyes:: With our deceptively warm fall and December (I found a fully-headed cauliflower in the garden when we were taking down the outdoor Christmas lights), I'd gotten ideas about starting onions now and being able to transplant them outside in, like, four or five weeks. Alas, here's the garden yesterday: Back to dreaming.
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Post by moimoi on Jan 25, 2016 19:32:26 GMT -5
I envy your space for an heirloom crabapple tree - or any tree. I'd love to make crabapple jam or get some pears or persimmons. Best I can do is a container lemon tree on the little patch of concrete in the back - did you know they have spikes? I am contemplating one day getting rid of the postage stamp lawn in back and just sticking a nice climbing tree in the middle, but right now I need sun in my east-facing backyard for the roses and peonies.
I too have begun planning (per hippo's thread, i'm going to start an exotic botany thread) and I have some spring bulbs on the way. I tend to have a poor short-term memory and buy multiple things to plant in the same spot. So far, this has helped me build up a nice corner of containers in the back.
The first things I buy every season are some annuals to arrange in the front hanging planters. For Spring I like African daisies (thriller), snapdragons (spiller) and something like phlox for filler.
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Post by ganews on Jan 25, 2016 20:28:37 GMT -5
Well, I did cut some green onions from the side of the house a week ago before they got covered with snow. Not much else is being planned this early; I'm about to reserve our same garden plots from the county ($30 each for two 25'x30' plots, can't beat it).
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jan 25, 2016 22:00:12 GMT -5
My only big (new and additional) plan for this year is to grow some tomatillos. I used to grow them in my garden in grad school but haven't in my garden here.
Oh! And build a new grape arbor since I revamped my compost system and am getting rid of the old compost structure that currently supports the grapes.
Oh! And grow even more onions in my expanded onion-growing area.
I think that's it
Wait! Install a large-scale corn-planting in the vacant area behind my brother's place
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 26, 2016 9:05:31 GMT -5
I envy your space for an heirloom crabapple tree - or any tree. I'd love to make crabapple jam or get some pears or persimmons. Best I can do is a container lemon tree on the little patch of concrete in the back - did you know they have spikes? I am contemplating one day getting rid of the postage stamp lawn in back and just sticking a nice climbing tree in the middle, but right now I need sun in my east-facing backyard for the roses and peonies. I too have begun planning (per hippo's thread, i'm going to start an exotic botany thread) and I have some spring bulbs on the way. I tend to have a poor short-term memory and buy multiple things to plant in the same spot. So far, this has helped me build up a nice corner of containers in the back. The first things I buy every season are some annuals to arrange in the front hanging planters. For Spring I like African daisies (thriller), snapdragons (spiller) and something like phlox for filler. It's a tough call, choosing between a tree and sunlight. A container lemon tree, though, is a nice compromise, especially if you're like me and enjoy a good Regency romance/mystery novel, so the potted lemon tree is evocative of a conservatory where secret assignations and murders happen. (Yes, I've always had far loftier notions about our pathetic potted lemons than they could ever support. ) Does your tree yield much? We keep killing lemon trees, but occasionally get an encouraging (and heavenly fragrant) flowering before they kick off.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 26, 2016 9:06:28 GMT -5
Well, I did cut some green onions from the side of the house a week ago before they got covered with snow. Not much else is being planned this early; I'm about to reserve our same garden plots from the county ($30 each for two 25'x30' plots, can't beat it). Wow, that is an amazing deal for your plots! How far are they from home?
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 26, 2016 9:10:03 GMT -5
My only big (new and additional) plan for this year is to grow some tomatillos. I used to grow them in my garden in grad school but haven't in my garden here. Oh! And build a new grape arbor since I revamped my compost system and am getting rid of the old compost structure that currently supports the grapes. Oh! And grow even more onions in my expanded onion-growing area. I think that's it Wait! Install a large-scale corn-planting in the vacant area behind my brother's place Okay, are you sure that's it now? I'm seethingly envious of your grape arbor; we keep planting grapes and they keep not doing anything. Like, I don't think the deer even give them a chance to die. They're there for a day or two, then utterly eradicated. And a large-scale corn operation sounds so fantastic! That's something we contemplated doing with the abandoned property next door, but I suspect someone would notice and report us to the police... Corn is such an amazing thing to eat immediately fresh off the stalk, but takes up so much space. Horning in on your brother's neighboring vacant area is a genius move.
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Post by ganews on Jan 26, 2016 10:05:00 GMT -5
Well, I did cut some green onions from the side of the house a week ago before they got covered with snow. Not much else is being planned this early; I'm about to reserve our same garden plots from the county ($30 each for two 25'x30' plots, can't beat it). Wow, that is an amazing deal for your plots! How far are they from home? They were 1.75 miles exactly from the old apartment, but since we bought the house it's over 4 miles. Not quite as convenient as it used to be, but still pretty good. There's also a tall chain-link fence around the whole area with a combination lock. $60 for the whole year. I ought to put a trailer out there and move in.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jan 26, 2016 11:55:50 GMT -5
Okay, are you sure that's it now? I'm seethingly envious of your grape arbor; we keep planting grapes and they keep not doing anything. Like, I don't think the deer even give them a chance to die. They're there for a day or two, then utterly eradicated. And a large-scale corn operation sounds so fantastic! That's something we contemplated doing with the abandoned property next door, but I suspect someone would notice and report us to the police... Corn is such an amazing thing to eat immediately fresh off the stalk, but takes up so much space. Horning in on your brother's neighboring vacant area is a genius move. "Corn...it's a volume game" *chomps pipe* And yeah, my grape vine is just wildly growing all over the three-sided wire-fence structure that was my old compost heap. I'd imagine 'more or less growing on the compost pile' helped it along because I gave it *zero* care and we get enough grapes to make a batch of jelly each year. With my luck, the new arbor will probably kill it...
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Post by moimoi on Jan 26, 2016 13:49:21 GMT -5
I envy your space for an heirloom crabapple tree - or any tree. I'd love to make crabapple jam or get some pears or persimmons. Best I can do is a container lemon tree on the little patch of concrete in the back - did you know they have spikes? I am contemplating one day getting rid of the postage stamp lawn in back and just sticking a nice climbing tree in the middle, but right now I need sun in my east-facing backyard for the roses and peonies. I too have begun planning (per hippo's thread, i'm going to start an exotic botany thread) and I have some spring bulbs on the way. I tend to have a poor short-term memory and buy multiple things to plant in the same spot. So far, this has helped me build up a nice corner of containers in the back. The first things I buy every season are some annuals to arrange in the front hanging planters. For Spring I like African daisies (thriller), snapdragons (spiller) and something like phlox for filler. It's a tough call, choosing between a tree and sunlight. A container lemon tree, though, is a nice compromise, especially if you're like me and enjoy a good Regency romance/mystery novel, so the potted lemon tree is evocative of a conservatory where secret assignations and murders happen. (Yes, I've always had far loftier notions about our pathetic potted lemons than they could ever support. ) Does your tree yield much? We keep killing lemon trees, but occasionally get an encouraging (and heavenly fragrant) flowering before they kick off. I too was inspired by the idea of a conservatory (pronounced, conserva-tree, naturally ) for a container garden space next to the garage. It's just a bare rectangular patch of pavement that leads out to the alley, so I want to put some small trees and shrubs in the back corners to mask the ugly bit of fencing and garbage cans behind them. I've only had the lemon tree for one season and I bought it as a sapling, so it hasn't produced fruit yet. Does it need a pollinator? I have two blueberry bushes for that purpose - hoping to get something out of them this season. I also want to add a chinese juniper and some ferns for interest. The nice thing about a container garden is that if you screw up and a plant dies, you can just pitch it and try something else. Also, I have enough room in the adjoining garage/garden shed to drag everything in for winter. It's no hothouse, but it is nice to see something green when I pull my car in, especially during a snowstorm.
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Jan 26, 2016 16:17:46 GMT -5
I have an heirloom crabapple tree. It's so old, when it was planted, it was just a crabapple tree. It dropped squishy rotten fruit all over our vehicles, but then a flock of robins came and ate all the fermented ones and got drunk, so it was kinda worth it.
I have no idea what I'm going to do this year. Despite having an acre, the only sunny spot big enough to put a garden is over the septic field (of course, right?). I'm going to have to put some smallish raised beds and then get rid of some unhealthy trees for a future garden plot. I fear it would all be for naught anyway, since there are enough deer around here that I could sit on my deck during bow season and bag my limit in an hour. I may have to limit myself to deer-resistant flowering plants.
There is a 8' x 16'-ish greenhouse foundation and attendant piping for hot-water radiant heat in the yard. Attending to that will probably be a priority, since there really isn't enough room inside the house for my pineapple plants and 15 citrus trees.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 27, 2016 10:09:22 GMT -5
I have an heirloom crabapple tree. It's so old, when it was planted, it was just a crabapple tree. It dropped squishy rotten fruit all over our vehicles, but then a flock of robins came and ate all the fermented ones and got drunk, so it was kinda worth it. I have no idea what I'm going to do this year. Despite having an acre, the only sunny spot big enough to put a garden is over the septic field (of course, right?). I'm going to have to put some smallish raised beds and then get rid of some unhealthy trees for a future garden plot. I fear it would all be for naught anyway, since there are enough deer around here that I could sit on my deck during bow season and bag my limit in an hour. I may have to limit myself to deer-resistant flowering plants. There is a 8' x 16'-ish greenhouse foundation and attendant piping for hot-water radiant heat in the yard. Attending to that will probably be a priority, since there really isn't enough room inside the house for my pineapple plants and 15 citrus trees. PINEAPPLE PLANTS?! ::faints dead away:: That is so cool! Do you get any pineapples from them? Also, I am wildly jealous of your greenhouse situation. And I hear you on the deer. I've heard that the area I live in has the densest population of white-tailed deer in the world; I've counted as many as 16 in our backyard at one time. Much fence is required to grow anything tasty outdoors, that's for sure. (They do, however, do a great job vacuuming our front yard of all the squishy rotten fruit that falls from our fruit trees, especially the peaches. So I thank them for that.)
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Post by ganews on Jan 27, 2016 12:32:00 GMT -5
I have an heirloom crabapple tree. It's so old, when it was planted, it was just a crabapple tree. It dropped squishy rotten fruit all over our vehicles, but then a flock of robins came and ate all the fermented ones and got drunk, so it was kinda worth it. I have no idea what I'm going to do this year. Despite having an acre, the only sunny spot big enough to put a garden is over the septic field (of course, right?). I'm going to have to put some smallish raised beds and then get rid of some unhealthy trees for a future garden plot. I fear it would all be for naught anyway, since there are enough deer around here that I could sit on my deck during bow season and bag my limit in an hour. I may have to limit myself to deer-resistant flowering plants. There is a 8' x 16'-ish greenhouse foundation and attendant piping for hot-water radiant heat in the yard. Attending to that will probably be a priority, since there really isn't enough room inside the house for my pineapple plants and 15 citrus trees. PINEAPPLE PLANTS?! ::faints dead away:: That is so cool! Do you get any pineapples from them? Also, I am wildly jealous of your greenhouse situation. And I hear you on the deer. I've heard that the area I live in has the densest population of white-tailed deer in the world; I've counted as many as 16 in our backyard at one time. Much fence is required to grow anything tasty outdoors, that's for sure. (They do, however, do a great job vacuuming our front yard of all the squishy rotten fruit that falls from our fruit trees, especially the peaches. So I thank them for that.) I caught a buck and doe in my backyard last night, where I usually only see poop and prints. I chucked some snow at them, but they'll be back. No house veggies for me.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 27, 2016 12:46:57 GMT -5
I caught a buck and doe in my backyard last night, where I usually only see poop and prints. I chucked some snow at them, but they'll be back. No house veggies for me. Our deer tend not to back off when things are chucked at them, or when they're yelled at, or when other loud noises or cars are directed their way. There'll be six does with twin sets of fawns noshing on the fruit trees, and I'll go out in the front yard to shoo them away and they'll just keep circling the trees to keep a trunk between me and them but no more than that. Then they look at me like, "What? I'm not asking you to stop eating from that bag of doritos you've got next to the couch, so why are you asking me to stop eating these apples? Go back inside." It's almost like having dozens of large, insouciant, tick-infested outdoor pets or something.
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Jan 27, 2016 12:50:04 GMT -5
The fearless way semi-urban deer lurk around would be terrifying if they were carnivorous.
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Post by The Tuck Pendleton Machine on Jan 27, 2016 13:20:33 GMT -5
Our peas are coming in nicely, same thing with the arugula, chard, and chinese cabbage. The citrus trees are going bonkers too.
The problem is that some local cats have taken to our back yard, and have chosen to shit and dig up the planter box with our beets and some marigolds. In addition, they have been sitting in and eating our chives, which is going to make them sick. As a result, I've been spreading citrus peels around since they have a deterrent effect on cats, both to save our plants and to keep the cats from getting ill. I'm thinking of putting up a muslin drape around things, which would also keep out moths.
Also, our rain barrels are working wonderfully, which means we don't have to pay for water to use on the garden. That's nice.
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Post by moimoi on Jan 27, 2016 13:40:43 GMT -5
Also, our rain barrels are working wonderfully, which means we don't have to pay for water to use on the garden. That's nice. Rain barrels are the best! Not only do you not have to pay for water in the garden, but rain water is better for the plants. I also use it to wash the car and for tasks like rinsing out paintbrushes. Our Alderman just gave out free ones (not that it will make me vote for her), so if anybody within driving distance of Chicago wants my spare, they are welcome to it :-)
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 27, 2016 13:43:56 GMT -5
Our peas are coming in nicely, same thing with the arugula, chard, and chinese cabbage. The citrus trees are going bonkers too. The problem is that some local cats have taken to our back yard, and have chosen to shit and dig up the planter box with our beets and some marigolds. In addition, they have been sitting in and eating our chives, which is going to make them sick. As a result, I've been spreading citrus peels around since they have a deterrent effect on cats, both to save our plants and to keep the cats from getting ill. I'm thinking of putting up a muslin drape around things, which would also keep out moths. Also, our rain barrels are working wonderfully, which means we don't have to pay for water to use on the garden. That's nice. Rain barrels are great, aren't they? It feels good to be gardening off the grid, like a real homesteader. I'm charmed by the thought of a garden strewn with citrus peels, because I'm imagining perfumed air and golden, warm summer sunshine. Less charming is the cat damage, and then cats sick from too much chive... What kind of citrus are you growing?
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jan 27, 2016 13:46:33 GMT -5
I should note that stately Dick n Hisses Manor did give up on rain barrels a few years ago, because we had too much garden to water by hand. And none of our barrels had sturdy foundations, so as the years passed they all sank into the dirt at haphazard angles and started to topple over. It wasn't the barrels' fault -- it was all user error, so I don't blame them. But during the rain barrel era, I really loved them!
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Post by Smacks on Jan 27, 2016 13:56:33 GMT -5
New Guy has a pretty sweet indoor garden going in his basement. I saw it in person the first time I was over. The other day he sent me pictures of what he harvested: kale, yellow tomatoes, radishes, brussel sprouts and mustard greens. Needless to say I am IMPRESSED.
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Post by moimoi on Jan 27, 2016 14:12:06 GMT -5
I should note that stately Dick n Hisses Manor did give up on rain barrels a few years ago, because we had too much garden to water by hand. And none of our barrels had sturdy foundations, so as the years passed they all sank into the dirt at haphazard angles and started to topple over. It wasn't the barrels' fault -- it was all user error, so I don't blame them. But during the rain barrel era, I really loved them! Yeah, you definitely have to find a balance - if you disconnect all your downspouts, you'll have too much water to use. I have five spouts total: two go into the city sewer, one drains out to a flowerbed and down a sloped sidewalk, and two are connected to rain barrels (one in front, one in back). The front rain barrel has a small hose attached to ensure that the overflow waters a hydrangea and then runs off downhill (rather than sinking the barrel's foundation, which is some leftover concrete patio tile stacked up). I'm trying to be more diligent about connecting the soaker hose during dry spells to empty the barrels as much as possible before storms. I also bottle up water whenever I have an empty receptacle to reuse for various winter household applications: watering indoor plants, setting out on trays as a lo-fi humidifier, keeping a broken toilet running, melting patches of ice when I don't want to waste salt, etc.
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Post by The Tuck Pendleton Machine on Jan 27, 2016 17:11:45 GMT -5
Our peas are coming in nicely, same thing with the arugula, chard, and chinese cabbage. The citrus trees are going bonkers too. The problem is that some local cats have taken to our back yard, and have chosen to shit and dig up the planter box with our beets and some marigolds. In addition, they have been sitting in and eating our chives, which is going to make them sick. As a result, I've been spreading citrus peels around since they have a deterrent effect on cats, both to save our plants and to keep the cats from getting ill. I'm thinking of putting up a muslin drape around things, which would also keep out moths. Also, our rain barrels are working wonderfully, which means we don't have to pay for water to use on the garden. That's nice. Rain barrels are great, aren't they? It feels good to be gardening off the grid, like a real homesteader. I'm charmed by the thought of a garden strewn with citrus peels, because I'm imagining perfumed air and golden, warm summer sunshine. Less charming is the cat damage, and then cats sick from too much chive... What kind of citrus are you growing? Yep, the rain barrels are killer. And since we're still in a drought, it feels much more responsible (and we received a rebate from the city for our 300 gallon capacity). I'm fixin' to setup some drip irrigation from the barrels so we can be a bit more hands-off on the watering. I agree, hand-watering everything would be a pain. We're growing Meyer lemon, lemon, and orange right now. And a woefully neglected citrus tree from when we moved in (I think it's grapefruit) seems to be coming back. The orange was practically dead when we moved in a year ago, so I hold out hope the maybe-grapefruit will come back in a year or two.
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Jan 27, 2016 20:55:08 GMT -5
PINEAPPLE PLANTS?! ::faints dead away:: That is so cool! Do you get any pineapples from them? Also, I am wildly jealous of your greenhouse situation. I haven't gotten a pineapple yet. Most of what I have read says it's at least 2-3 years before they flower, and mine are just a little over 2 years old. They're super easy to propagate from a fresh, whole pineapple, so I'd highly recommend giving it a shot. They're pretty neat plants, and super easy to care for (pest-free too!). I gotta start cruising around more on trash day, looking for people putting in replacement windows. I used to see stacks of old windows on the curb all the time when I didn't have a greenhouse to build, but now that I do....
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Post by ๐ cahusserole ๐ on Jan 31, 2016 22:54:04 GMT -5
Ooh, garden thread! I was just thinking about what I was going to plant today. And then it hailed.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Feb 1, 2016 10:27:08 GMT -5
Tomorrow is Imbolc! The days theoretically officially get longer than the nights! We'll be celebrating by starting onion seeds. Have I shared here the story of our famous first attempt at Imbolc lettuce? We'd first read about Imbolc on the Hudson Valley Seed Library's blog, where they said something about this date being noted by the Celts as the point when a plant could start growing outside in a sheltered spot. So we were all, "We know! We'll put a grow frame out in the garden, so that will be sheltered and warm in the sun! And we'll set out some trays of lettuce seeds, and then in a few weeks we'll have fresh, delicious, Imbolc lettuce to eat!" This is what happened: That was Hugs going out mid-snow storm to clear off the top of the grow frame. It... didn't help. (I love this picture. I was standing in our front door with the camera, and she trudged out there, wrestled open the gate, then was all hunched over doing something I couldn't see clearly. "What are you doing?" I shouted. She stood up, put up her mittens like this, and beamed, "I'm gardening!") Two years later, though, we did our Imbolc lettuces under the grow lights, and this is how they looked a month later: So... yeah. Imbolc. You win some, you lose some.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Feb 3, 2016 9:46:15 GMT -5
Our yards are DEATH TRAPS!!!
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