Dellarigg
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Post by Dellarigg on May 10, 2014 15:45:05 GMT -5
Dos Passos, U.S.A. (Well, the middle book only for now.) The narrative sections of this capture the flow of life as well as anything I've read. Mac, Janey, Joe Williams, Charlie Anderson are imperishable characters to me. I'm fond of the socialism aspects too, and with a year to go till the general election here, I'm obviously building myself up to start the revolution.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on May 12, 2014 8:47:17 GMT -5
Vicar of Wakefield was fine, but there's no pressing reason for anyone to read it except for historical interest. Other writers (Dickens, most obviously) ripped Goldsmith off but did it much better; you might as well just read them.
Now on to Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn, which is just fucking amazing fun for every single sentence. It's a mystery, I guess, where the lead character has Tourette's. I love the fuck out of it.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on May 12, 2014 8:47:55 GMT -5
Dos Passos, U.S.A. (Well, the middle book only for now.) The narrative sections of this capture the flow of life as well as anything I've read. Mac, Janey, Joe Williams, Charlie Anderson are imperishable characters to me. I'm fond of the socialism aspects too, and with a year to go till the general election here, I'm obviously building myself up to start the revolution. That's great! I've been meaning to read that. Good to hear you're digging it.
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Post by Judkins Moaner on May 12, 2014 11:19:20 GMT -5
I'm reading Super Sad True Love Story and not really loving it. As a diehard Shteyngartian, that was the one I wound up selling later, good though it was. It was just so depressing and easily extrapolated from our present world. A far cry, I thought, from Russian Debutante's Handbook and Absurdistan. Just a stone-cold downer in many ways (and I'm not sold on the "heroine," to be honest). Jean-Luc Lemur, Bloom always struck me as one of those guys like Moynihan or Schlesinger. Like you said, a classic postwar liberal who could never master the changes of the 60s. Jut started Thomas Keneally's American Scoundrel, his biography of nineteenth century New York politician and Civil War general Dan Sickles (whose leg made a memorably amusing cameo in Lincoln). Weird to see how you could easily update the wheeling, dealing, and general excess that crowded Sickles' life and export it into the twentieth century (or a Law and Order episode; his trial for murder resulted in the country's first successful defense on temporary insanity grounds). Looking forward to Hamalainen's The Comanche Empire and a biography of Bayard Rustin this week, as well as Ying Ruocheng's autobiography and Stefan Zweig's The Post-Office Girl (was giving myself some time after seeing The Grand Budapest Hotel to read the latter). Hopefully my order of N.K. Jemisin's The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms will show up at the bookstore around the same time.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on May 13, 2014 7:32:00 GMT -5
Dr. Dastardly and Judkins Moaner — I was really looking forward to Super Sad True Love Story, somehow got an early hold on a Chicago Public Library copy (it ended up being one of those books that had months-long waiting lists on multiple copies) and…at least I was disappointed early. In addition to just being a downer (and not a sophisticated or ambiguous downer, but just a plain mope-fest, which surprised me as someone who laughed his way through Absurdistan), the thick layer of “those kids today and their facebooks and mashpages and the googletwits and the hippin’ and the hoppin’” didn’t help, either. I’m still interested in checking out Russian Debutante’s Handbook eventually, though.
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on May 13, 2014 16:00:15 GMT -5
I have Neil Gaimen's American Gods and any day now I'm going to open the book up and start reading it.
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Post by Mrs David Tennant on May 13, 2014 16:59:36 GMT -5
I just got my books out of storage (after 3.5 years!) and now I'm going to go back and re-read all my favorites! Including Calvin & Hobbes, Terry Pratchett, Mary Brown, Elizabeth Peters, Enid Blyton, etc., etc. I'm very excited!
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Post by thecausticgospel on May 14, 2014 13:27:46 GMT -5
I have Neil Gaimen's American Gods and any day now I'm going to open the book up and start reading it. It's good.
Reading The Terror by Dan Simmons, who I thought I'd give another chance to, but it's a little meh.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 21:24:43 GMT -5
was sort of making a triptych of conspiracy/true-crime/paranoid fiction out of Programmed to Kill, Murder City, and Inherent Vice. it was my first Pynchon* originally intended to make 2666 my 3rd selection, but it is 3-in-one as it is, so now as i polish off MC, i look forward to returning to the original lineup. *having finished IV, i recommend it less than anything by Chandler or Hammett for detective fiction (does Pynchon even HAVE an editor?), and as far as the psychedelic atmosphere and counterculture go, i'd rather be reading something like The Monkey Wrench Gang-- it is a non-rose-colored glasses look at life on the fringes as well, but rings truer, for example, Abbey finds the time to remember that feminism is 'a thing'
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on May 15, 2014 8:31:22 GMT -5
(does Pynchon even HAVE an editor?) I ha
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 19:25:52 GMT -5
"Crazy Town: The Rob Ford Story" by Robyn Doolittle.
I just finished up "Reclaiming Public Housing" by Lawrence Vale, which as you can guess was for work.
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Post by thecausticgospel on May 18, 2014 19:36:00 GMT -5
Rereading The Player of Games (Iain Banks) for the first time in many, many years. It was a Culture novel I always regarded as a little dry and slow, but so many people over the years have listed it as one of their favorite Culture novels that I decided I had to revisit it.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on May 19, 2014 8:13:44 GMT -5
I'm reading The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer, which is a nonfiction book about the history of cancer that won the Pulitzer a few years back. So far, not as funny as I was hoping it would be.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on May 21, 2014 2:55:18 GMT -5
I just finished Raymond Chandler's The Simple Art of Murder, which I've discussed in greater detail in the Book Club thread for it, but I wasn't very impressed. I've also read Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle since the last time I posted in this thread. It was my first Vonnegut, and I greatly enjoyed it. I've found myself thinking dismissively of various group identities that I'm encouraged to lump myself into as granfaloons more than a couple of times over the last couple of weeks.
Now I'm in the middle of re-reading Faulkner's Light In August, which was one of my favorite books in high school, and it's standing up to the scrutiny of the more well-read adult me. I'm also reading Robert Jordan's The Fires of Heaven, whose prose is proving just as mediocre and heavy-handed as the books preceding it in the series. Oh hey, this character who you mentioned in the first book grew up the daughter of a poor fisherman, but rose to be powerful just used a folksy fishing-related idiom. Good job, Robert Jordan, you've done more than enough to remind me of her humble upbringing and the way it's shaped her into a minor variation on the theme of all the cookie-cutter heroes in this series. You really don't need to explain to me that the reason why she just used a folksy fishing-related idiom was because she grew up a poor fisherman's daughter. Nor does her internal monologue need to include a folksy fishing-related idiom every other paragraph. Lastly, I've just started Peter Matthiesen's In Paradise, as it got a good review on the Old Country and a digital copy was available to check out from the local library.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on May 21, 2014 9:54:43 GMT -5
I finished up The Closing of the American Mind. I thought it would be an interesting read given the Poe’s Law-esque resurgence of PC/identity politics of late, and while I think the book says some worthwhile things it’s ultimately way too rambling to really be of much use. There are elements of a powerful critique in here, but it’s structured almost in an off-the-cuff, “Oh, here’s something else I just thought of/remembered/have an opinion about” way, which made the book a bit of a slog.
It’s also, despite its reputation, not a conservative book. One of Bloom’s main concerns is that, by not valuing the likes of Socrates and Rousseau, we’re limiting the capability of young minds to find what was radical about them and reshape themselves (in one passage Bloom talked about how much he was liking Zelig as a story of self-formation and integration into America, but was disappointed that the self Zelig ultimately ended up settling in was so boring and unheroic). He’s not sympathetic to identity politics, but not sympathetic towards the Moral Majority or eighties-style materialism either (and goes out of the way diss Brooks Brothers—come on, Allan, that’s the one thing the yuppies got right!).
I then turned more strongly to the right by reading Tyler Cowen’s The Great Stagnation, which is really more a pamphlet than a book. I enjoyed how concise it was and found his thesis—that we’ve plucked all the low-hanging fruit for now in terms of economic growth and innovation—fairly convincing, coming from a transportation-and-energy background. As someone who’s started seriously thinking about a PhD in the sciences (with full knowledge of the stress and low potential earnings involved) I nearly spit my cappucino onto my computer screen when his first recommendation was for society to value scientists more.
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Post by Lord Lucan on May 21, 2014 14:07:16 GMT -5
I finished up The Closing of the American Mind. I thought it would be an interesting read given the Poe’s Law-esque resurgence of PC/identity politics of late, and while I think the book says some worthwhile things it’s ultimately way too rambling to really be of much use. There are elements of a powerful critique in here, but it’s structured almost in an off-the-cuff, “Oh, here’s something else I just thought of/remembered/have an opinion about” way, which made the book a bit of a slog. It’s also, despite its reputation, not a conservative book. One of Bloom’s main concerns is that, by not valuing the likes of Socrates and Rousseau, we’re limiting the capability of young minds to find what was radical about them and reshape themselves (in one passage Bloom talked about how much he was liking Zelig as a story of self-formation and integration into America, but was disappointed that the self Zelig ultimately ended up settling in was so boring and unheroic). He’s not sympathetic to identity politics, but not sympathetic towards the Moral Majority or eighties-style materialism either (and goes out of the way diss Brooks Brothers—come on, Allan, that’s the one thing the yuppies got right!). I then turned more strongly to the right by reading Tyler Cowen’s The Great Stagnation, which is really more a pamphlet than a book. I enjoyed how concise it was and found his thesis—that we’ve plucked all the low-hanging fruit for now in terms of economic growth and innovation—fairly convincing, coming from a transportation-and-energy background. As someone who’s started seriously thinking about a PhD in the sciences (with full knowledge of the stress and low potential earnings involved) I nearly spit my cappucino onto my computer screen when his first recommendation was for society to value scientists more. I read the former years ago and can't say I thought much of it at all. More recently I read Saul Bellow's Ravelstein, a roman à clef about his friendship with Bloom. But Harold is definitely the Bloom I prefer.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on May 21, 2014 14:20:36 GMT -5
I finished up The Closing of the American Mind... Interesting, Lemur. Hadn't heard of this Looked it up on Amazon, though, and saw this quote: 'This University of Chicago professor claims that racial segregation among today's students is largely due to the fact that "blacks have become blacks"', which...oh dear. I don't think there's really any way to make that statement and not be a terrible ass, is there? Does he really say things like that? (Note - I'm not accusing Bloom of being conservative; I'm accusing him of being racist, which is usually but not always the same thing.)
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on May 21, 2014 16:39:01 GMT -5
Just started on Capital in the Twenty-First Century by Thomas Piketty, because I am such a predictable little liberal. I'll report back if and when I finish it all. I read it over my vacation! Possibly the geekiest vacation reading of all time, certainly my personal record. There were certainly flaws in the book. The most glaring one, not because it was the biggest but because it was the weirdest, is Piketty's inexplicable vendetta against Bill Gates. The passage where he praises Jobs, trashes Gates, and implies that Gates doesn't deserve to be rich left my jaw hanging open. There's also a repetition of the common mistake of saying the average mortality of an earlier era being 40 meant most adults died at 40; it didn't, since so many people died before age 5. And every so often Piketty's language about capitalism, taming capitalism, defeating capitalism, etc. betrayed an ideological edge that I, as a good old capitalist, didn't much like. On the other hand, much of the book is outstanding. The book is hard to read in the sense that it's very long, detailed, and concerning a difficult subject. The book is easy to read, though, in the sense that Piketty writes clearly, explains things well for non-economist readers, and strenuously avoids (or illuminates) jargon. In fact, even given the occasional clunker of a sentence, I'm willing to say Capital in the Twenty-First Century is a landmark of prose non-fiction, since it brings such clarity to such a tangled Christmas tree light strand of a subject. As for the ideas, I am no economist, but I find myself persuaded by a lot of them. Truth is, the book is surprisingly low on ideas. It's high on data, but the data pretty irresistibly pushes you to certain ideas. Income and wealth inequality are, now, a lot like climate change: we know they're happening, we have a good idea why, we have some sketchy ideas on how to fix them, but we have to overcome the people who are still ready to deny there's a problem in the first place. This book serves as a weighty assembly of the evidence. I can say, as a "lay reader," that I will now permanently carry around in my mind some core economic concepts thanks to this book, particularly "r > g" (rate of return on capital usually beats traditional economic growth) and "wealth/income = savings/growth." Also, somehow I had never heard that inflation didn't exist until 120ish years ago. Glad that's been corrected for me. Dr. Dastardly alert: Thomas Piketty repeatedly discusses Pere Goriot. He also cites Disney's The Aristocats and Django Unchained.
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Post by Tea Rex on May 21, 2014 21:39:23 GMT -5
Reading Cloud Atlas and enjoying it thoroughly. It's been super hyped, so I was wary. However, it seems the hype was deserved.
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Post by Judkins Moaner on May 21, 2014 21:45:14 GMT -5
Pekka Hamalainen's The Comanche Empire. Really interesting, pretty well-organized read, which manages to skirt the central problem of the paucity of reliable Comanche sources for the story of their overwhelming dominance in the Rio Grande Valley c. 1700-1850. Maintains a fairly evenhanded approach to its subject; Hamalainen avoids the kind of (understandable) romantic mythologizing one might have found in the subject a generation or two earlier and makes a good case for the Comanche as being, well, an empire, if not as highly organized or technologically advanced as its eventual conqueror from the east. The most startling realization so far is the Comanche's decisive influence on the Mexican-American War; the US Army was largely able to score as much initial success in the north (and, to some extent, the south) due to the region's earlier reduction to a howling wasteland by Comanche raids (the central Mexican government's diversion of such feeble resources it could muster to fight the raiders weakening the country as a whole). Thinking of checking out S.C. Gwynne's Empire of the Summer Moon next, covering some of the same ground but much less scholarly and much more a popular biography of celebrated late 19th century Comanche leader Quanah Parker (and, apparently, the Texas Rangers, said focus the source of a little online criticism, apparently).
Picked up Raymond Chandler's The Simple Art of Murder at the bookstore today; will hopefully finish that by early next week. Interesting to read the introductory essay already; lots of cultural baggage there (I shudder to imagine my ex-girlfriend's and her good friend's reactions to Chandler's ambiguous take on Dorothy L. Sayers).
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on May 21, 2014 22:15:23 GMT -5
Reading Cloud Atlas and enjoying it thoroughly. It's been super hyped, so I was wary. However, it seems the hype was deserved. I also liked Cloud Atlas quite a bit, even if it didn't quite live up to the hype for me. I loved Mitchell's The Thousand Autumns of Jacob DeZoet as well, and thought it was even better than Cloud Atlas, for what it's worth.
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Post by thecausticgospel on May 22, 2014 11:42:01 GMT -5
Reading Cloud Atlas and enjoying it thoroughly. It's been super hyped, so I was wary. However, it seems the hype was deserved. Glad to hear this - it's been on my list but the hype, or rather the backlash, was making me have second thoughts...
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Post by Simon Illyan on May 22, 2014 17:50:48 GMT -5
I just finished The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison, and really enjoyed it although it seemed to end quite abruptly - it has a lot of the trappings of high fantasy, with a focus on both politics and the emotional growth of the main character. I'm new to the thread, so I looked back a few pages to see if anyone else has read it but I didn't see any mentions.
I'm probably going to start read The Martian next; I've heard good things.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on May 22, 2014 20:36:20 GMT -5
I just finished The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison, and really enjoyed it although it seemed to end quite abruptly - it has a lot of the trappings of high fantasy, with a focus on both politics and the emotional growth of the main character. I'm new to the thread, so I looked back a few pages to see if anyone else has read it but I didn't see any mentions. I'm probably going to start read The Martian next; I've heard good things. Welcome to the TI!
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Post by Mrs David Tennant on May 22, 2014 23:16:08 GMT -5
I just finished The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison, and really enjoyed it although it seemed to end quite abruptly - it has a lot of the trappings of high fantasy, with a focus on both politics and the emotional growth of the main character. I'm new to the thread, so I looked back a few pages to see if anyone else has read it but I didn't see any mentions. I'm probably going to start read The Martian next; I've heard good things. I just read The Goblin Empire myself. I think it's probably the start of a trilogy (or more). I liked it a lot. I also really liked The Martian and highly recommend it.
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 23, 2014 4:03:02 GMT -5
The Severed Streets: second London police set urban fantasy by Paul Cornell (yes, the Doctor Who scribe). More coherent than the first book in the saga, and has a truly hilarious (to me at least, having known the man for years) cameo appearance about a third of the way through... ...from Neil Gaiman.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on May 23, 2014 8:51:36 GMT -5
Yeah, welcome Simon Illyan! I've heard good things about The Martian too, and it's on my list for next time I want to get away from serious reading for a bit and just have a good time.
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Post by Simon Illyan on May 23, 2014 11:49:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcomes Mrs David Tennant I went poking around in the author's website, and she says that The Goblin Emperor is a stand-alone book. I'm not sure if she means that it isn't set in any of her previous worlds (and she may write sequels), or if she's stopping here. I'm certainly hoping for more!
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Post by Paleu on May 23, 2014 16:35:54 GMT -5
I just finished Raymond Chandler's The Simple Art of Murder, which I've discussed in greater detail in the Book Club thread for it, but I wasn't very impressed. I've also read Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle since the last time I posted in this thread. It was my first Vonnegut, and I greatly enjoyed it. I've found myself thinking dismissively of various group identities that I'm encouraged to lump myself into as granfaloons more than a couple of times over the last couple of weeks. You need to check out Slaughterhouse-Five as soon as possible. It and Cat's Cradle were the two books that convinced me that Vonnegut was one of my favorite writers, and a national treasure to boot. His short stories are excellent too; I'd check out Welcome to the Monkeyhouse as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 16:36:25 GMT -5
Wild Cards I the superhero anthology edited by George RR Martin. About half way through and it's pretty good this far.
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