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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 12:19:44 GMT -5
By an extremely tight margin, the winner of the July Anniversary Record Club poll is The Prodigy's third album The Fat of the Land, released July 1, 1997 in the U.S. The album broke the electronic music collective to widespread commercial success, particularly in the United States. Tell us what you think about this album after 20 years, which saw Wal-Mart and K-Mart pulling the CD from their shelves owing to the controversy over track "Smack My Bitch Up," a five-year hiatus for the band following this album, and continued output to this day. What else was happening in July 1997:- China re-attains sovereignty of Hong Kong from the U.K.
- NASA’s Pathfinder space probe lands on Mars
- Scientists present Neanderthal DNA analysis that supports the “Out of Africa” theory of human evolution
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 12:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by ganews on Jul 1, 2017 13:02:07 GMT -5
Ah 1997. I think I first heard (parts) of this album at a church youth group party later in the fall. It was very popular in the dorms in the college summer program the year after, and it was probably somewhere around this time that I bought the cassette. I definitely remember listening to this in the car with my mom before I could drive. Then in college I invested the time to download the unedited music video of "Smack my Bitch Up" to see what all the fuss was about. This will make for a good listen in the car this week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 13:54:08 GMT -5
Never owned this album despite being deep into electronic music's dabbling in stadium rock in the '90s. The Prodigy were too aggro for my high school tastes--I preferred the psychedelic leanings of The Chemical Brothers, the glassy-eyed debauchery of Underworld, and the simple pleasures of forgotten big beat-techno groups (The Propellerheads, Apollo 440, etc.).
However, it's impressive that I can still distinctly remember several tracks from this album from a relatively straightforward techno act after only hearing it a few times when I was fourteen. The album is a showcase of how group mastermind Liam Howlett was a double threat in crafting both synths and beats that are earworms, a feat that is particularly impressive when compared with more critically lauded techno groups like Orbital.
As I noted in the introduction for this Record Club, The Prodigy took a five-year hiatus after the release of this one. And, really, how could you follow this up--this is as stripped down as big beat-techno gets--particularly with the rapidly-shifting trends of electronic music. It's music all about impact and complaints about repetitiveness and musical atavism seem beside the point.
Nonetheless, it's far from a great record in my opinion. It IS repetitive, lacking in variety, and the singles ("Breathe" and "Firestarter") easily stand above the rest.
"Smack My Bitch Up" has aged poorly and feels facile in both its antagonism and uplift (incidentally, an ex-girlfriend called this track "the most erotic song ever").
"Diesel Power" is one of those well-meaning attempts by electronic music to give back to their hip-hop influences, in this case by giving Kool Keith a payday. Unfortunately, the beat lacks the grit necessary to underpin Keith's rap.
The uninspired "Serial Thrilla" is the low point of the album, but things pick up again with the early-morning rave madness of "Mindfields" and "Nayaran."
Spin magazine once called "Firestarter" "our ['90s kids'] 'Louie Louie,'" which I always thought was a funny description.
"Climbatize" is the most interesting track that I don't remember from my teenage listening. It has a hopeful feeling far removed from the destructo-beats of the rest of the album and could be considered the group's homage to the positive hardcore from their formative years in the early '90s.
The punk of "Fuel My Fire" just isn't for me.
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Post by repulsionist on Jul 5, 2017 13:01:31 GMT -5
More from the files of mixed-up old man who was there for this....Saw The Prodigy at The Phoenix Festival in 1996, along with Massive Attack on a different day, and missed a bunch of seminal drum'n'bass, hardhouse, and other stuff in the dance tent. "Firestarter" swept through UK Top Shops and HMVs with the quickness of dry tinder and lightning meeting in a forest from March of 1996 to summer of 1998. I like that pantsgoblin was gobblin' up the EDM of the 90s. I feel your steez, internet pal. Respective of that, do note that the US release of this album came from Madonna's Maverick label. This music smelled of money, and the engines of wealth perpetuation geared themselves up to monetize this phase of Eschaton. Who remembers Sash's "Encore une Fois"? Or, what about? BT was rising in Ibiza. Remember that guy? And waddabout Pigeonhed! "Battle Flag" raged with machines that made "Breathe" on stations like 99 The Wave (not an historical reference as much as a funny munge). My old man memory fails now. The synapses disconnect. "Drink! Arse! Feck! Girls!" - Father Jack.
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Post by ganews on Jul 5, 2017 14:57:05 GMT -5
Or, what about? BT was rising in Ibiza. Remember that guy? Whenever BT is not on the threads, people should be asking, " Remember BT?"
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Post by Nudeviking on Jul 6, 2017 1:47:39 GMT -5
BT was rising in Ibiza. Remember that guy? I remember BT! He had some song with the dude from Soul Coughing that got a lot of radio play on the local mainstream alternarock station circa 1999.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Jul 6, 2017 18:55:41 GMT -5
More from the files of mixed-up old man who was there for this....Saw The Prodigy at The Phoenix Festival in 1996, along with Massive Attack on a different day, and missed a bunch of seminal drum'n'bass, hardhouse, and other stuff in the dance tent. "Firestarter" swept through UK Top Shops and HMVs with the quickness of dry tinder and lightning meeting in a forest from March of 1996 to summer of 1998. I like that pantsgoblin was gobblin' up the EDM of the 90s. I feel your steez, internet pal. Respective of that, do note that the US release of this album came from Madonna's Maverick label. This music smelled of money, and the engines of wealth perpetuation geared themselves up to monetize this phase of Eschaton. Who remembers Sash's "Encore une Fois"? Or, what about? BT was rising in Ibiza. Remember that guy? And waddabout Pigeonhed! "Battle Flag" raged with machines that made "Breathe" on stations like 99 The Wave (not an historical reference as much as a funny munge). My old man memory fails now. The synapses disconnect. "Drink! Arse! Feck! Girls!" - Father Jack. Do you recall what those other seminal acts were (the drum 'n' bass, particularly)? Is The Prodigy considered hardhouse, then, presumably?
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Post by ganews on Jul 6, 2017 20:21:02 GMT -5
Listened in the car, and it's still a great album. Yes, several tracks are too repetitive, but it's OK. The weakest track is easily "Serial Thrilla". Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but I think the group could have done just fine without Keith Flint. The more sparingly he is used, the better (although "Fuel My Fire" is not bad). Although he did get a cameo in the Venture Brothers. Perhaps it's ironic then, that the only track I can't immediately hear in my head is the only vocal-less, sample-free instrumental "Climbatize". But that's just me an instrumental music, it's still a decent track. Wikipedia tells me that "Smack My Bitch Up" is a sample from the complete Kool Keith line "change my pitch up, smack my bitch up like a pimp". The sample makes for an infinitely better line. It's antagonistic all right. I'm afraid of pantsgoblin's ex.
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Post by Nudeviking on Jul 6, 2017 22:03:51 GMT -5
The year is 1997. In America, teenagers across the nation are searching for the "next Nirvana," or at least that's what magazines and MTV told us we were suppose to be doing. Over in the UK some sort of shit was happening with drum machines and breakbeats and stuff. "Techno," they called it. It came to America in all its myriad forms and was apparently the "next Nirvana." It was not...
Pre-Existing Prejudices While I rolled my eyes at the vast majority of the "techno" artists like The Chemical Brothers and their ilk who arrived in America and were promptly dubbed the "next Nirvana" by the American press, The Prodigy were one of the few that I gave a chance to. I mean, they had guitars and a sneering vocalist with shitty hair and tattoos. I purchased this album around the time that "Breathe" was a single in America and have heard all these songs a bunch of times in my life. Like most music from my high school career, I haven't really listened to this album in full since 2002 or so.
Songs "Smack My Bitch Up" This song has a fine hook but it's too repetitive and goes on for far too long. I think the radio version was a minute or two shorter and thus 16 times better than the album version. I vaguely recall staying up until late o'clock at night to see the video for this on MTV since they would only play it in the middle of the night.
"Breathe" This was the song that caused me to purchase this album back in the day. I still think it's the best song on Fat of the Land. The kung fu movie sword sound effects are awesome and the guy with the stupid haircut is well deployed here. Like "Smack My Bitch Up," That being said I think this song kind of goes on too long, a problem that was remedied with the radio version.
"Diesel Power" Kind of boring, but at least Kool Keith got a payday for this.
"Funky Shit" OH MY GOD THAT'S THE FUNKY SHIT! I did not remember anything about this song except for the Beastie Boys sample and am certainly that I will promptly forget everything about this song again by the time I finish listening to this album album.
"Serial Thrilla" I recall liking this song when I was a shitty teenager, but now it's just really boring. It's super repetitive and never really goes anywhere.
"Mindfields" Another overly long, repetitive song. It's a lot less frantic than any of the songs that proceed it so I'll give it credit for being different at least.
"Narayan" This is too goddamn long. I guess it's a fine if it's twenty years ago and I'm getting high and dancing with some sort of late 90s lady, but listening to it on headphones in my office while working on a spreadsheet it's kind of lame.
"Firestarter" Fucking finally. After a pair of quasi-mellow chill out tracks we're back to songs that make you want to run a marathon while having a kung fu battle. Unfortunately, like almost every track on this album this song goes about a minute and a half longer than it needs to.
"Climbatize" I do not remember this song at all. The beginning kind of reminds me of the Flash Gordon Soundtrack. This is a lot more upbeat than most of the other songs on the album. There are swinets and drums that give it a vaguely Eastern feel. The end's got a bass riff and synth lasers. All in all this is a pretty solid jam.
"Fuel My Fire" A cover of an L7 song. I like the L7 version better and am probably going to go listen to Hungry for Stink now so thanks for that The Prodigy. This isn't terrible or anything it just seems really inessential. A fine thing for a b-side to a single or a bonus track on the Japanese version of the album, but as an album cut? Nah.
Final Thoughts There are some decent songs on this album but they're all too damn long. I'm sure the length wasn't a problem for blissed out 90s club kids sucking on pacifiers and wearing shitty clothes, but while listening to this album sober and in an office, I ended up either zoning out about halfway through the song or checking the time remaining on the track every five seconds. I would probably be a lot happier with radio edits of the entire album.
Best Song: "Breathe" Worst Song: "Serial Thrilla" or "Funky Shit"
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Post by repulsionist on Jul 7, 2017 8:48:42 GMT -5
Lord Lucan, Saturday's Megadog Tent line-up at 1996 Phoenix Festival was the drum'n'bass day. Grooverider Goldie Fabio Lionrock Red Snapper LTJ Bukem Spring Heel Jack Baby D Nicolette Andrew Weatherall Lamb With a preening arrogance I offer that Metalheadz provides the definitive drum'n'bass experience of 1994 - 1999. EDM of the 90s and aughts is best reflected in the DJ-Kicks series; their Chromeo release was the last I bought of that series.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Jul 7, 2017 10:08:48 GMT -5
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Post by moimoi on Jul 7, 2017 12:07:20 GMT -5
Wish I had more to add, aside from agreement with the consensus: very much of its time; consistent but repetitive; Keith Flint is ridiculous, like somebody held a casting call for 'Techno Johnny Rotten'; standouts are "Breathe" and "Narayan". As for "Smack My Bitch Up", I liked it when it came out, liked the video, and didn't find it that offensive. I think it's because I interpreted the 'bitch' in question as the 'situation', as in "man, it's hot up in this bitch." Of course, the full line, "smack my bitch up like a pimp" is more egregious, so it's probably good that they left that bit out. What I do find offensive is when movies like Charlie's Angels use it to soundtrack fight scenes with women. If the filmmakers want to portray female characters as 'badass bitches' I can think of a hundred more empowering songs, like anything by Trina.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Jul 7, 2017 20:30:45 GMT -5
Wish I had more to add, aside from agreement with the consensus: very much of its time; consistent but repetitive; Keith Flint is ridiculous, like somebody held a casting call for 'Techno Johnny Rotten'; standouts are "Breathe" and "Narayan". As for "Smack My Bitch Up", I liked it when it came out, liked the video, and didn't find it that offensive. I think it's because I interpreted the 'bitch' in question as the 'situation', as in "man, it's hot up in this bitch." Of course, the full line, "smack my bitch up like a pimp" is more egregious, so it's probably good that they left that bit out. What I do find offensive is when movies like Charlie's Angels use it to soundtrack fight scenes with women. If the filmmakers want to portray female characters as 'badass bitches' I can think of a hundred more empowering songs, like anything by Trina. I recall them on Much Music defending it rather apathetically thereby.
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