Rainbow Rosa
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 25, 2023 16:27:10 GMT -5
The world must know!
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Frohman
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Post by Frohman on Sept 25, 2023 17:21:14 GMT -5
I have one but my pathetic confirmed bachelor lifestyle never necessitates using it.
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Post by liebkartoffel on Sept 25, 2023 19:22:23 GMT -5
As of April of this year, and for the first time in my adult life, yes.
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Sept 25, 2023 20:31:18 GMT -5
We have one but it's not very good at cleaning anymore. If I put dishes in it with any food residue at all, it will just get cooked on. I wash everything in hot water in the sink before I put it in the dishwasher. It's basically just a dish drier.
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Post by Nudeviking on Sept 26, 2023 1:53:10 GMT -5
Yes. I got a dishwasher for the first time in my adult life five years ago when I moved into the place I'm living in now. I still only use it about 50% of the time that I do dishes because there's only three of us and depending on what we eat that might only be be three bowls, three spoons, three sets of chopsticks, and a pan which is hardly enough to warrant turning on the dishwasher.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Sept 26, 2023 7:11:26 GMT -5
The only time in my life I have lived without a dishwasher was a few non-consecutive periods when I was in college. One of those periods (from fall of 93 through spring of 94), I was sick more often than I have ever been in any other period I remember, and I have always blamed it on my inability to get dishes clean enough by hand.
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LazBro
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Post by LazBro on Sept 26, 2023 7:47:42 GMT -5
Dishwashers are rad, and I use mine every day.
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Post by Liz n Dick on Sept 26, 2023 8:18:55 GMT -5
I have one, but the division of labor in my house is such that I almost never personally interact with it. Boomer is the one with dishwashing duties, and it drives me nuts that she's of the belief that she needs to wash everything before putting it into the dishwasher, where it will get, I guess, a second level of washing? But it doesn't drive me nuts enough to take over the dishwashing or anything.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 26, 2023 9:01:24 GMT -5
I've lived in a few places without them, but we replaced the super old one after we moved in to our current house. Dishwashers are great. I love them. And it turns out if you run the cleaner through it every so often, they keep working well!
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 26, 2023 9:14:00 GMT -5
I only didn't have a dishwasher when I lived in college dorms for two years, but the dorm suites didn't have kitchens and we usually ate in the cafeteria anyway. I've always had one, because my father refused to ever go without since his own parents got a dishwasher in 1966, and it was part of the criteria when I was looking at apartments. I run it twice or three times a week, depending on how much cooking I've been doing. It works pretty well, actually. I just make sure I scrape/rinse off the stuff a bit first and I'm good to go. And so far it hasn't melted any plastic stuff.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Sept 26, 2023 11:42:14 GMT -5
Yes but we don't use it more than once a month or so.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 26, 2023 11:48:56 GMT -5
Yes but we don't use it more than once a month or so. My MIL seems to be anti-dishwasher - she keeps a tub of soapy water in the sink and washes things constantly and puts them on a drying rack. But I think it's gross, personally - the water gets yucky, she doesn't leave much room to rinse things, and handwashing should be limited to specific items (like delicate glassware or pans you want to keep nice). Hand washing will never get things as clean as a properly-maintained dishwasher. But she only uses hers like, after big holiday dinners. |
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 26, 2023 12:53:25 GMT -5
Yeah, to clarify -- I don't ever put my Magnalite cookware, antique glass, or knives (cooking or steak) into the dishwasher. But glass baking dishes and my shitty cheap nonstick omelet pan? Absolutely!
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 26, 2023 13:05:26 GMT -5
Yeah, to clarify -- I don't ever put my Magnalite cookware, antique glass, or knives (cooking or steak) into the dishwasher. But glass baking dishes and my shitty cheap nonstick omelet pan? Absolutely! I wash my (non-butter) knives, a few glasses, a few baking sheets and a few nice stovetop pans by hand. But yeah, everything else? Dishwasher! |
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Gumbercules
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Post by Gumbercules on Sept 26, 2023 13:38:29 GMT -5
Yes, and his name is Steve.
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 26, 2023 14:07:16 GMT -5
Yes, and his name is Steve. Hey, everybody, now we know Gumbercules' name! Everybody rush in to make fun of it! |
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Rainbow Rosa
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 26, 2023 19:19:52 GMT -5
I'm one of the two no votes here, btw, and can't fathom not handwashing dishes.
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Post by pantsgoblin on Sept 26, 2023 19:21:54 GMT -5
I always thought Gumbercules seemed like a real "Steve".
I recall getting dragged on the Food Board for saying, in the 13 years I've lived in this place, I've used the dishwasher maybe twice. I'm not going down that path again...oh wait.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 26, 2023 21:18:59 GMT -5
I'm one of the two no votes here, btw, and can't fathom not handwashing dishes. I’m another one, and I would slap a kitten for a dishwasher. I do want to get one in the next year, but my kitchen is tiny, and it’ll involve a minor remodel so there will be a place to actually put it. I don’t want one of the freestanding rolly ones, because I don’t have room for it and the cabinety thing I use for extra storage. God I am so fucking sick of handwashing dishes. |
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Post by liebkartoffel on Sept 26, 2023 23:23:39 GMT -5
Lived in the same apartment with a tiny, dishwasher-less kitchen for almost 10 years, and moved into a 2BR in the same complex in April. So far as I can tell the new kitchen is the exact same size, but it has a dishwasher, and the difference is like night and day. Literally every horizontal surface of my kitchen isn't covered in dirty and/or drying dishes! I have real, honest-to-god counter space! With room to spare for an appliance or two! Living in the future is crazy, man.
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Gumbercules
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Post by Gumbercules on Sept 27, 2023 6:55:24 GMT -5
Yes, and his name is Steve. Hey, everybody, now we know Gumbercules ' name! Everybody rush in to make fun of it! I am Latino, and my name is as equally un-latino as much as Steve is. For my joke, I felt like it would be racist to go with a name like Juan or Pedro. |
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Sept 27, 2023 7:45:46 GMT -5
Hey, everybody, now we know Gumbercules ' name! Everybody rush in to make fun of it! I am Latino, and my name is as equally un-latino as much as Steve is. For my joke, I felt like it would be racist to go with a name like Juan or Pedro. Esteban! No, wait, you said un-latino. |
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 27, 2023 9:07:58 GMT -5
Lived in the same apartment with a tiny, dishwasher-less kitchen for almost 10 years, and moved into a 2BR in the same complex in April. So far as I can tell the new kitchen is the exact same size, but it has a dishwasher, and the difference is like night and day. Literally every horizontal surface of my kitchen isn't covered in dirty and/or drying dishes! I have real, honest-to-god counter space! With room to spare for an appliance or two! Living in the future is crazy, man. Yeah, I have maybe about three square feet of open counter space because this kitchen is tiny. Just my knife block, small spice rack, microwave (a smaller one than I would normally have bought), and stand mixer take up almost every available inch. And I only have a sink with one basin, not divided. So when I do a lot of cooking, I have to set up a drying station at the dining-room table for dishes because even a dish rack would infringe on that three square feet of counter space. I also have a dearth of wonky narrow cabinets, and I'm so short anyway, that I cannot meaningfully use them for storing anything like spices.
(My friends still can't believe I willingly hosted Friendsgiving last year. My secret was a LOT of foil trays.)
My parents' dishwasher broke about three or four times in the decade before they finally replaced it, and of course, the repairs take weeks at a time. With four adults living in the house who all cooked, we generated so many dishes that it actually caused fights until we gave up and used paper plates for almost everything in the week before the repair guy could put in whatever part we'd been waiting on. We just all fucking hate doing the dishes that much. |
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Sept 27, 2023 20:17:15 GMT -5
I will abstain until I get a ruling on this: I own a dishwasher that came with the house, but I rarely used it because it didn't get things clean enough and eventually starting leaking into my basement. So which vote would cover "yes, but it's broken and I have no immediate intention of replacing it"?
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Post by repulsionist on Sept 28, 2023 17:11:40 GMT -5
I have always used dishwashers. If I have a "China & Crystal" setting, I will try to put said objects of such type in to avoid handwashing. Have I ruined stuff in the dishwasher? Yes. Stainless steel. Countless flimsy plastic objects. Thrift store china, usw.
I emptied them as a kid. I feel as though I'm the only one who empties the dishwasher as an adult. I know them to be the more efficient use of water. I steer into the camp of using "Won't someone think of the EARTH!" dish powders and rinse aids.
In the US, it was GE or Maytag. In NZ, it's been Miele (adequate; the newer the better), Asko (old garbage; made when it was still European manufactured), ALTO (Australian garbage), Fisher & Paykel (top tier; except dishdrawers, which aren't that great but F&P stands by them as a massive innovation).
There was something in Wellington, but I forget its brand. 'Twas definitely lower order Chinese imprint that did the job but just barely. Furthering the tedium of old guy anecdote, the first old one was sturdy enough but died. Its new, exact model replacement was sturdy and feebly got the job done with few options.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 29, 2023 2:45:49 GMT -5
I do not have a dishwasher for the first time in my life.
I HATE handwashing every single thing. I have a small kitchen, and this takes up so much counter space! Aaaaah!
Worse is feeling like I am using way more water this way than I would just loading everything into a dishwasher. This feels awful, as I grew up in a drought, and was taught essentially every water-saving tip that is known to man. This comes in handy when living in a desert. When I was a kid I basically learned to feel guilty if I was wasting water. This is NOT helpful now, because I feel horribly guilty for how much water I am using to wash dishes.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 29, 2023 5:58:18 GMT -5
I lived in apartments without dishwashers in most of college and part of grad school and I ended up using paper plates much of that time. I cannot express how much I hate hand-washing things. They never seem clean.
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Post by moimoi on Oct 1, 2023 17:12:51 GMT -5
The poll closed but I would like to declare I have a dishwasher. I refuse to wash dishes for others and I'm sick of washing my own dishes. Washing dishes is, in my opinion, the most existentially tedious of chores, because as long as you are alive and eating, you will have plates to clean up.
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Post by Celebith on Oct 2, 2023 23:52:02 GMT -5
I think we have one in our new apartment - haven't moved in yet and I don't remember. We also have a clothes washer under the sink counter in the kitchen, but apparently it doesn't work.
We have had dish washers for most of the last 20 years, but rarely use them. We use spoons, chopsticks and knives fare more often than forks, and bowls more than plates. Chopsticks tend to fall through the utensil holders anyway, and with just the two of us, it's almost as easy to clean as we go. Every once in a while things will pile up, or we'll use so many things for meal prep that it's worth putting them in the washer, but usually things are clean and on the drying rack within minutes of being used.
I do keep a one-quart container (usually a re-used Chinese-food soup container) in the sink for utensils, but that's mostly to prevent knives from wandering around and attacking stray hands. I'll put soapy water in it if I'm using it during meal prep and want to pre-wash all the things I don't want to re-use. Stuff that I've touched raw chicken with, etc.
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