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Post by Desert Dweller on Apr 20, 2023 19:02:31 GMT -5
BCS couldn't have come at a better time, because after finishing our Psych binge and the last couple episodes of Stranger Things, we were adrift for where to go next. Nothing really stuck out. We've backed off most of our streaming services, down to only Netflix, Prime, and Disney, so options are limited. I dunno, after BCS maybe we'll go back to the Star Wars stuff on Disney. We've only seen the first two seasons of The Mandalorian.
Waiting for Ted Lasso to finish up to resubscribe to Apple and watch that and Mythic Quest.
This is almost exactly my plan! After I finish this, I'm going to drop Netflix for a while, and go over to Disney+ to finally watch "Andor". Then I'll switch over to Apple to watch "Ted Lasso". I think there was something else over there that I wanted to watch, but I can't remember right now.
I swear, I never thought I'd miss the old cable bundle. But trying to navigate a dozen streaming services is really annoying.
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2023 20:37:52 GMT -5
Abbott Elementary cannot be serious. Just the absolute worst will they won't they.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 21, 2023 3:21:13 GMT -5
At some point in the past I tried watching that Clone Wars TV show, thought it looked gross and also hated most of the episodes I watched and thus bailed on it. Everything about this season of The Mandalorian led me to believe that I'm probably going to have to bite the bullet and actually get through this shit if I have any hope of understanding Star Wars shit going forward without having to look up every single character on Wookiepedia every other scene and so I started watching Clone Wars again. Last night I finished the first season of Clone Wars and honestly kind of hated it. Here's a list of the shit I did not care for.
1. There are dozens of clone characters who show up, get names, and somewhat distinct character traits but I have no idea who among them I'm supposed to actually remember and who among them are just guys that exist solely as a plot device for a certain episode. Like am I supposed to care about Hardcase or Greg or Cocksmith when they get introduced or is it totally fine that I don't remember anything about them other than "in that episode a clone was space racist?"
2. Sort of piggybacking off this but in a slightly different direction there are a lot of characters who just show up and are presented as someone I am supposed to know about. Like there's a multiple episode arc about some cat named Wat Tambor and everyone in the show's just like, "IT'S WAT TAMBOR!!!" like I'm supposed to know who the fuck Wat Tambor is but I don't, so again I'm forced to trawl Wookiepedia and look at lore on a show I'm watching because I don't want to have to constantly look shit up on Wookiepedia.
3. The kid sidekick character fucking sucks. Like I get that this is a show for children and I'm a middle aged man so a kid sidekick character is very much not in the show for me. This kind of character is the main reason I generally avoid cartoons for kids, even the ones that people say are good. Her suckitude is something that has me very worried because she's the next random-ass character that's getting a Star Wars TV show for grown ups and after one (1) season of Clone Wars I have less desire to see that show than I did before I watched this show.
All that being said, I now know something about Hat Guy from that terrible Bob A. Fett's Book show since he showed up in the last episode of the season so I guess my mission was at least modestly successful.
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Post by liebkartoffel on Apr 21, 2023 7:56:32 GMT -5
Abbott Elementary cannot be serious. Just the absolute worst will they won't they. Eh, I think it's an utterly ordinary will they/won't they, which speaks to my issue with the show. Or rather my issue with the commentary surrounding the show. The show itself is a very solid sitcom that has some unique things to say and some unique perspectives to express. But for whatever reason people feel compelled to talk about it like it's genre-revolutionizing masterpiece that has perfected the art of the " slow-burning romance," when...nah, for the most part it's just a very solid sitcom. Which is good! Those are rare! Just don't pretend that they invented having the romantic leads almost get together in the season 2 finale only to decide to be friends for another half-season or so, only to hook up once again at the Christmas party, only to...&c. &c.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Apr 21, 2023 9:15:50 GMT -5
At some point in the past I tried watching that Clone Wars TV show, thought it looked gross and also hated most of the episodes I watched and thus bailed on it. Everything about this season of The Mandalorian led me to believe that I'm probably going to have to bite the bullet and actually get through this shit if I have any hope of understanding Star Wars shit going forward without having to look up every single character on Wookiepedia every other scene and so I started watching Clone Wars again. Last night I finished the first season of Clone Wars and honestly kind of hated it. Here's a list of the shit I did not care for. 1. There are dozens of clone characters who show up, get names, and somewhat distinct character traits but I have no idea who among them I'm supposed to actually remember and who among them are just guys that exist solely as a plot device for a certain episode. Like am I supposed to care about Hardcase or Greg or Cocksmith when they get introduced or is it totally fine that I don't remember anything about them other than "in that episode a clone was space racist?" 2. Sort of piggybacking off this but in a slightly different direction there are a lot of characters who just show up and are presented as someone I am supposed to know about. Like there's a multiple episode arc about some cat named Wat Tambor and everyone in the show's just like, "IT'S WAT TAMBOR!!!" like I'm supposed to know who the fuck Wat Tambor is but I don't, so again I'm forced to trawl Wookiepedia and look at lore on a show I'm watching because I don't want to have to constantly look shit up on Wookiepedia. 3. The kid sidekick character fucking sucks. Like I get that this is a show for children and I'm a middle aged man so a kid sidekick character is very much not in the show for me. This kind of character is the main reason I generally avoid cartoons for kids, even the ones that people say are good. Her suckitude is something that has me very worried because she's the next random-ass character that's getting a Star Wars TV show for grown ups and after one (1) season of Clone Wars I have less desire to see that show than I did before I watched this show. All that being said, I now know something about Hat Guy from that terrible Bob A. Fett's Book show since he showed up in the last episode of the season so I guess my mission was at least modestly successful. I totally understand your sentiment that nobody should have to watch all of the Clone Wars and Rebels shows to understand the new live-action ones. All I can say is that there's a point in each show (somewhere around season 3 or 4 of Clone Wars, and by the end of season 1 of Rebels) where they both get REALLY GOOD overall. Still high and low points, but the quality increases. I couldn't stand Ahsoka at first either. She gets better. By a LOT.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 21, 2023 9:23:16 GMT -5
At some point in the past I tried watching that Clone Wars TV show, thought it looked gross and also hated most of the episodes I watched and thus bailed on it. Everything about this season of The Mandalorian led me to believe that I'm probably going to have to bite the bullet and actually get through this shit if I have any hope of understanding Star Wars shit going forward without having to look up every single character on Wookiepedia every other scene and so I started watching Clone Wars again. Last night I finished the first season of Clone Wars and honestly kind of hated it. Here's a list of the shit I did not care for. 1. There are dozens of clone characters who show up, get names, and somewhat distinct character traits but I have no idea who among them I'm supposed to actually remember and who among them are just guys that exist solely as a plot device for a certain episode. Like am I supposed to care about Hardcase or Greg or Cocksmith when they get introduced or is it totally fine that I don't remember anything about them other than "in that episode a clone was space racist?" 2. Sort of piggybacking off this but in a slightly different direction there are a lot of characters who just show up and are presented as someone I am supposed to know about. Like there's a multiple episode arc about some cat named Wat Tambor and everyone in the show's just like, "IT'S WAT TAMBOR!!!" like I'm supposed to know who the fuck Wat Tambor is but I don't, so again I'm forced to trawl Wookiepedia and look at lore on a show I'm watching because I don't want to have to constantly look shit up on Wookiepedia. 3. The kid sidekick character fucking sucks. Like I get that this is a show for children and I'm a middle aged man so a kid sidekick character is very much not in the show for me. This kind of character is the main reason I generally avoid cartoons for kids, even the ones that people say are good. Her suckitude is something that has me very worried because she's the next random-ass character that's getting a Star Wars TV show for grown ups and after one (1) season of Clone Wars I have less desire to see that show than I did before I watched this show. All that being said, I now know something about Hat Guy from that terrible Bob A. Fett's Book show since he showed up in the last episode of the season so I guess my mission was at least modestly successful. I totally understand your sentiment that nobody should have to watch all of the Clone Wars and Rebels shows to understand the new live-action ones. All I can say is that there's a point in each show (somewhere around season 3 or 4 of Clone Wars, and by the end of season 1 of Rebels) where they both get REALLY GOOD overall. Still high and low points, but the quality increases. I couldn't stand Ahsoka at first either. She gets better. By a LOT. Season 1 (and the 3 episodes of season 2 I’ve seen) she’s very much Wesley Crusher Boy Genius from Star Trek: TNG. She’s kind of annoying and a know-it-all but at least unlike Wesley she isn’t actually half as smart as she thinks she is. Season 2 is marginally better so far because it’s mostly about Hat Guy, who I think is named Cat Bane, being a bajillion times smarter than everyone. Like it’s kind of incredible how dumb the Jedi get depicted in this show. They are bad at war and are constantly outsmarted by a Hat Guy.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 21, 2023 9:28:02 GMT -5
Cad Bane.
I haven't personally watched The Clone Wars, and I can pretty well follow, but my husband has so I know the basic outlines of the story. Asohka does get much less annoying.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 21, 2023 9:43:54 GMT -5
Cad Bane. I haven't personally watched The Clone Wars, and I can pretty well follow, but my husband has so I know the basic outlines of the story. Asohka does get much less annoying. Filoni said something at one point that he knew that Ahsoka was going to annoy people regardless at the beginning so he leaned into it hard early on and then backed off of it hoping to speed along her redemption.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 21, 2023 10:24:30 GMT -5
Cad Bane. I haven't personally watched The Clone Wars, and I can pretty well follow, but my husband has so I know the basic outlines of the story. Asohka does get much less annoying. It's less that I can't follow stuff it's just that I don't give a single shit about Boka Tan since there's been no reason given in the show I was watching for me to care about her or anything she wants to do. Same with Asuka last season or Hat Guy Cat Bane on Bob's Book and with the outline of what's to come with TV Star Wars it kind of sounds like it's going to be more of this sort of thing and less "Here's a fun stand alone thing you can watch without any real knowledge of Star Wars lore." I'm glad to hear that she gets less annoying because she was legit the reason I gave up on my first attempt to get through this show.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 21, 2023 10:31:39 GMT -5
Cad Bane. I haven't personally watched The Clone Wars, and I can pretty well follow, but my husband has so I know the basic outlines of the story. Asohka does get much less annoying. Filoni said something at one point that he knew that Ahsoka was going to annoy people regardless at the beginning so he leaned into it hard early on and then backed off of it hoping to speed along her redemption. I don't really understand what point he's trying to make. Like she was written as an annoying know-it-all child so of course people were going to be annoyed by her. Like had he not written the character to act like that I don't think people would be annoyed by her. That was a choice he and whoever else was writing made because they want to do arc about her maturing but I don't think people would hate the character if they hadn't presented her as loathsome as they do.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 21, 2023 10:35:10 GMT -5
Filoni said something at one point that he knew that Ahsoka was going to annoy people regardless at the beginning so he leaned into it hard early on and then backed off of it hoping to speed along her redemption. I don't really understand what point he's trying to make. Like she was written as an annoying know-it-all child so of course people were going to be annoyed by her. Like had he not written the character to act like that I don't think people would be annoyed by her. That was a choice he and whoever else was writing made because they want to do arc about her maturing but I don't think people would hate the character if they hadn't presented her as loathsome as they do. He was saying if he wrote her not as annoying people would still be annoyed by her simply because she was a teenage padawan we'd never seen before being inserted into the narrative. And honestly, I think he's right. Part of the reason I didn't watch the show until years later was "Anakin's teenage padawan" was an instant turnoff to me. And now that I've seen it, she (along with Rex) is what makes the show work to me.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 21, 2023 10:43:37 GMT -5
I don't really understand what point he's trying to make. Like she was written as an annoying know-it-all child so of course people were going to be annoyed by her. Like had he not written the character to act like that I don't think people would be annoyed by her. That was a choice he and whoever else was writing made because they want to do arc about her maturing but I don't think people would hate the character if they hadn't presented her as loathsome as they do. He was saying if he wrote her not as annoying people would still be annoyed by her simply because she was a teenage padawan we'd never seen before being inserted into the narrative. And honestly, I think he's right. Part of the reason I didn't watch the show until years later was "Anakin's teenage padawan" was an instant turnoff to me. And now that I've seen it, she (along with Rex) is what makes the show work to me. I guess, but that bit about characters we've never seen before is also true for all the Clones who get names and that bald Count Dooku apprentice lady (though I think she technically showed up in the earlier Cartoon Network version of Clone Wars) and those stupid Hutts that aren't Jabba (thought they suck so they probably aren't the best example here). No one really seems to think Hardcheese the Clone Commando or Bald Lady Sith Apprentice suck all kinds of ass out of the gate.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Apr 21, 2023 10:44:37 GMT -5
Cad Bane. I haven't personally watched The Clone Wars, and I can pretty well follow, but my husband has so I know the basic outlines of the story. Asohka does get much less annoying. It's less that I can't follow stuff it's just that I don't give a single shit about Boka Tan since there's been no reason given in the show I was watching for me to care about her or anything she wants to do. Same with Asuka last season or Hat Guy Cat Bane on Bob's Book and with the outline of what's to come with TV Star Wars it kind of sounds like it's going to be more of this sort of thing and less "Here's a fun stand alone thing you can watch without any real knowledge of Star Wars lore." I'm glad to hear that she gets less annoying because she was legit the reason I gave up on my first attempt to get through this show. Honestly I was the same. I started watching the show YEARS ago and got maybe 5 episodes in. Came back a few years later and ended up getting hooked, though it still took me probably a year to watch it all, an episode or two here and there. There's a specific point where Ahsoka has a REALLY bad experience with a mission gone horribly wrong that is basically the turning point for her.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 21, 2023 10:51:17 GMT -5
It's less that I can't follow stuff it's just that I don't give a single shit about Boka Tan since there's been no reason given in the show I was watching for me to care about her or anything she wants to do. Same with Asuka last season or Hat Guy Cat Bane on Bob's Book and with the outline of what's to come with TV Star Wars it kind of sounds like it's going to be more of this sort of thing and less "Here's a fun stand alone thing you can watch without any real knowledge of Star Wars lore." I'm glad to hear that she gets less annoying because she was legit the reason I gave up on my first attempt to get through this show. Honestly I was the same. I started watching the show YEARS ago and got maybe 5 episodes in. Came back a few years later and ended up getting hooked, though it still took me probably a year to watch it all, an episode or two here and there. There's a specific point where Ahsoka has a REALLY bad experience with a mission gone horribly wrong that is basically the turning point for her. She's had multiple missions like that already. There was one where she got an entire squad of mens killed because she refused to bring their space ships back when some sort of ambush happened and then another time she refused to retreat when her position was about to be overrun and had to be rescued and then ended up on library duty.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 21, 2023 11:23:00 GMT -5
He was saying if he wrote her not as annoying people would still be annoyed by her simply because she was a teenage padawan we'd never seen before being inserted into the narrative. And honestly, I think he's right. Part of the reason I didn't watch the show until years later was "Anakin's teenage padawan" was an instant turnoff to me. And now that I've seen it, she (along with Rex) is what makes the show work to me. I guess, but that bit about characters we've never seen before is also true for all the Clones who get names and that bald Count Dooku apprentice lady (though I think she technically showed up in the earlier Cartoon Network version of Clone Wars) and those stupid Hutts that aren't Jabba (thought they suck so they probably aren't the best example here). No one really seems to think Hardcheese the Clone Commando or Bald Lady Sith Apprentice suck all kinds of ass out of the gate. True, but they're not teenagers. Ahsoka was going to be inherently annoying from the beginning because she was a teenager, and teenagers are inherently annoying.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Apr 21, 2023 11:31:58 GMT -5
Honestly I was the same. I started watching the show YEARS ago and got maybe 5 episodes in. Came back a few years later and ended up getting hooked, though it still took me probably a year to watch it all, an episode or two here and there. There's a specific point where Ahsoka has a REALLY bad experience with a mission gone horribly wrong that is basically the turning point for her. She's had multiple missions like that already. There was one where she got an entire squad of mens killed because she refused to bring their space ships back when some sort of ambush happened and then another time she refused to retreat when her position was about to be overrun and had to be rescued and then ended up on library duty. Ah. Okay then, I have no idea when the turning point is then, or if it's more gradual.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 21, 2023 15:18:16 GMT -5
All of the "current" shows we were watching have ended in the last few weeks (Bad Batch, Picard, Mandalorian), but there's a bunch of stuff coming out in May, so I don't know if we're going to get to our backlog any time soon (Cobra Kai, Ghosts, everything on HBO Max released since August). There are also a handful of things we watch every so often when we're in the mood like Midnight Diner we're still not finished with.
So I suspect we'll be paralyzed with indecision until the May shows come out and end up watching old MST3K episodes in the interim.
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Post by haysoos on Apr 21, 2023 16:33:10 GMT -5
Cad Bane. I haven't personally watched The Clone Wars, and I can pretty well follow, but my husband has so I know the basic outlines of the story. Asohka does get much less annoying. It's less that I can't follow stuff it's just that I don't give a single shit about Boka Tan since there's been no reason given in the show I was watching for me to care about her or anything she wants to do. Same with Asuka last season or Hat Guy Cat Bane on Bob's Book and with the outline of what's to come with TV Star Wars it kind of sounds like it's going to be more of this sort of thing and less "Here's a fun stand alone thing you can watch without any real knowledge of Star Wars lore." I'm glad to hear that she gets less annoying because she was legit the reason I gave up on my first attempt to get through this show. OK, so I'm not alone in being pretty underwhelmed with Boka Tan and wondering why I'm supposed to give a shit about her and her mission. I had hoped that Mando would start hanging more with Boka Tan and her more normal Mandalorians, and come to realize that his guys were loopy, fanatical dogmatic cultists, and maybe it was okay to take his helmet off. But no, they seem to be going the other way and making Boka Tan's group mercenary assholes, with the bucket-heads being the "true" Mandalorians. I also had a vague recognition of hat guy from Boba Fett, but thought he was from one of the many video games I haven't played. I'm also really not enjoying that they seem to be gearing up to put in place the First Order and actually attempt to make the sequels canon. Stop making the universe smaller and smaller by revolving every event in the universe around the same core characters, and let Mando and Grogu go Lone Wolf and Cubbing through completely unrelated picaresque adventures in the uncoloured terra incognita of the vast Galaxy Far Far Away universe.
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Post by matt on Apr 22, 2023 1:27:47 GMT -5
Abbott Elementary cannot be serious. Just the absolute worst will they won't they. Eh, I think it's an utterly ordinary will they/won't they, which speaks to my issue with the show. Or rather my issue with the commentary surrounding the show. The show itself is a very solid sitcom that has some unique things to say and some unique perspectives to express. But for whatever reason people feel compelled to talk about it like it's genre-revolutionizing masterpiece that has perfected the art of the " slow-burning romance," when...nah, for the most part it's just a very solid sitcom. Which is good! Those are rare! Just don't pretend that they invented having the romantic leads almost get together in the season 2 finale only to decide to be friends for another half-season or so, only to hook up once again at the Christmas party, only to...&c. &c. The reason they used in the finale to hold it off was just the lamest excuse. They should have been done hooked up since the christmas episode. Instead the show is making me wish Janine was no longer a character on the show. She was good in the first season, but damn did Brunson and the other writers somehow find a way to make her insufferable this season. I was actually starting to turn back around on her in the last quarter or third or whatever of the season as well. When she got into that situation with the parent who couldn't accept their child was a problem, felt more like season 1 Janine again. Then they have to pull this stuff in the finale.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Apr 23, 2023 1:44:24 GMT -5
I have now finished the final season of Better Call Saul.
This is an excellent final season. I absolutely loved it.
The high water mark was found in episodes 7-9. Those were all phenomenal. Episode 9 may be one of my favorite ones in the entire series. The Kim/Jimmy scenes throughout that episode were so, so, so, so great. I remember watching them in the memorial scene and feeling total revulsion at what those characters had done. I was so pleased when it turns out that this was Kim's breaking point. The scene with her and Jimmy after that was incredible. Incredible how she was able to see herself clearly but Jimmy still could not.
That same episode also had a phenomenal scene with Mike and Nacho's dad. This may be the best scene Mike's ever had on either show. I loved how Manuel Varga was able to speak the truth to Mike, and walk away with moral clarity, leaving Mike trapped in a moral decline of his own making. Beautifully shot with Mike framed behind a chain link fence to visualize this.
The BB/BCS universe is so morally punishing. BCS continually reinforced this. My God, I am so glad that Gilligan actually let Jesse escape to freedom.
These were both A-grade shows with phenomenally well-written characters.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Apr 25, 2023 13:18:24 GMT -5
Did everyone else know that Paul Simms is a writer/producer on both Newsradio and What We Do In The Shadows??
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Post by haysoos on Apr 25, 2023 14:42:02 GMT -5
Did everyone else know that Paul Simms is a writer/producer on both Newsradio and What We Do In The Shadows?? Did not realize that. Apparently he was also involved in Flight of the Conchords. Also, apparently Flight of the Conchords was like fifteen years ago!?! How the fuck did that happen?
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Post by LazBro on Apr 26, 2023 7:34:20 GMT -5
New Mulaney special is good. It's almost exclusively about his struggle with addiction and his time in rehab, but he milks it for laughs at a high velocity.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 26, 2023 8:24:52 GMT -5
New Mulaney special is good. It's almost exclusively about his struggle with addiction and his time in rehab, but he milks it for laughs at a high velocity. I've enjoyed his other standup specials, but I'm struggling now because he let noted transphobe Dave Chappelle open for him, and that does not sit well with me.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Apr 26, 2023 8:47:45 GMT -5
Better Call Saul, Season 6: Michael Mando's final scene as Nacho was amazing!
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Post by LazBro on Apr 26, 2023 8:50:19 GMT -5
New Mulaney special is good. It's almost exclusively about his struggle with addiction and his time in rehab, but he milks it for laughs at a high velocity. I've enjoyed his other standup specials, but I'm struggling now because he let noted transphobe Dave Chappelle open for him, and that does not sit well with me. Yeah. I'm really frustrated with John over that. Even if he disagrees with Chappelle, which he's never stated either way, giving Chappelle a platform he doesn't need is not a neutral action. I will probably never watch another Chappelle comedy special or movie, but despite what I consider a very poor choice (from a guy who the last few years have revealed makes a LOT of poor choices), Mulaney does not strike me as transphobic, bigoted in some other way, or malicious.
I'll continue to enjoy him unless he fucks up further. He's on notice.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Apr 26, 2023 8:52:34 GMT -5
I got my parents to watch the first episode of Justified on Sunday and they LOVED it, as I knew they would -- my mom does enjoy a good-looking fella in a Stetson, and my dad is a Walton Goggins fanboy, and they both like a TV show that starts off with a bang. Now I'm impatient for them to catch up with me so we can discuss things.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 26, 2023 10:38:38 GMT -5
I've enjoyed his other standup specials, but I'm struggling now because he let noted transphobe Dave Chappelle open for him, and that does not sit well with me. Yeah. I'm really frustrated with John over that. Even if he disagrees with Chappelle, which he's never stated either way, giving Chappelle a platform he doesn't need is not a neutral action. I will probably never watch another Chappelle comedy special or movie, but despite what I consider a very poor choice (from a guy who the last few years have revealed makes a LOT of poor choices), Mulaney does not strike me as transphobic, bigoted in some other way, or malicious.
I'll continue to enjoy him unless he fucks up further. He's on notice.
I think that's fair, but yeah, he's definitely on notice.
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Post by sarapen on Apr 26, 2023 15:51:33 GMT -5
She's had multiple missions like that already. There was one where she got an entire squad of mens killed because she refused to bring their space ships back when some sort of ambush happened and then another time she refused to retreat when her position was about to be overrun and had to be rescued and then ended up on library duty. Ah. Okay then, I have no idea when the turning point is then, or if it's more gradual. Perhaps there's no turning point for Nudeviking and he'll never like the show. It happens. I write as a viewer who quit a few episodes into season 3, and the only reason I stuck so long is because I was assured it got better. Well, also I was unemployed.
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Post by songstarliner on Apr 26, 2023 21:00:17 GMT -5
New Mulaney special is good. It's almost exclusively about his struggle with addiction and his time in rehab, but he milks it for laughs at a high velocity. I though it was great. Lovely colors too: bold choice of a mulberry suit, but he made it werk.
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