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Post by chalkdevil ๐ on May 27, 2020 11:11:33 GMT -5
ParasiteIt took me 4 days, but I finally got through an entire movie during the baby's naps. Uh, I thought it was pretty good. Yep. A pretty good movie. It didn't really reach the level of the hype for me, which is pretty much on par with the other Bong Joon-ho movies I've seen. Like them, don't love them. I think, for Parasite, it was because I wasn't quite sure what the characters wanted other than "not be poor." It was hard to tell what was driving them forward. I guess the son was maybe the main character and I think he wanted to go to college. Maybe I was missing things in the translation. Like I was missing some cultural shorthand that would have keyed me in sooner to who the characters were. The son, I guess, is sort of a ruthless schemer but I was not getting that from the film until he was deep into his ruthless scheme to bilk a rich family and seduce a teenage girl. I think we were supposed to get that in the interaction with the pizza box lady, that he was sweet talking her or something but I was missing that as I was watching and assumed he was just desperately clinging to any money he could get or thought the pizza girl was cute or something. I did appreciate that it hit the class stuff from an interesting point of view. They weren't evil, just condescending and oblivious to the plight of others, and, honestly the mother felt like the most fleshed out character. Maybe she just fit a Western stereotype of upper class mom. Anyway, I've now seen 3 of the 2020 best picture nominees: Parasite, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, and Marriage Story and I think I liked Marriage Story the best, but that doesn't seem right. I maybe appreciated it the most. I think I'm just stuck with movies I found to be well made and interesting but didn't fully love (OUATIH, I really liked some of and really hated other parts of). I don't see any of the rest of the nominees being the one to really grab me. Still, of the lot, Parasite seems like a good choice. The thing with the pizza girl was that his dad was a spineless coward and his mom was the sort of person ready to throw hands due to a perceived slight and the son was the only person in the family who understood that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. As for the rich daughter I think she seduced him more than the other way around since it's also kind of implied that she did the same the same thing to the poor son's buddy that was tutoring her before the poor son took over. As for the rich mom being the easiest to read character, I kind of wonder if that's due to the fact that rich people here in Korea (especially the nouveau riche like the rich family in this movie) ape Western norms and are keen on sending their children abroad to study. It's why the rich mom would use random English words and expressions when speaking to people. Those weren't instances where the English word had entered the Korean lexicon due to there not being a native term for whatever they were talking about or even a case of an English word or phrase entering the lexicon and overtaking the existing Korean word or phrase in terms of popularity. She was randomly sticking English words and phrases that the people talking to her probably didn't understand into her speech to seem smarter or more worldly than she actually was. This is the good stuff. I thought I was hearing English words mixed in but the subtitles weren't really indicating that's what was happening. And, I wouldn't have really known that was a status thing anyway. I suppose this is like fancy Americans mixing in random French or Latin or something to show they are well educated and cultured. And I get what you are saying with the son. That aligns more with what I felt about the character I was just doubting myself. Anyway, I keep thinking about this moving. It probably deserves a rewatch at some point and maybe all in one sitting.
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Post by sarapen on May 28, 2020 12:07:10 GMT -5
I've tried to watch Aeon Flux on two separate occasions. I liked the old MTV series (at some point tracked it all down on YouTube to watch through it) and, you know, Charlize Theron in a black bob haircut, but that movie just lulls me right to sleep. In my head this is lumped in the near fully green screen sci-fi movies that came out in the early aughts in the wake of the success of Sin City, but I just watched the trailer and now I think I am confusing it with Ultraviolet the Mila Jovavich movie that came out the same year. This is more more like Equilibrium, with all the Brutalist architecture used to signify totalitarian regime. God, I thought Equilibrium was such a cool movie. It's gotta be terrible now right? I saw Equilibrium for the first and only time a few years ago and I can confirm it's terrible. It's kind of amazing how boring they could make crazy gun battles but I just couldn't care about the characters or the story and also didn't much care which character was going to win the crazy gun battles.
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Post by sarapen on May 28, 2020 12:08:39 GMT -5
Continuing our AFI run with Titanic, which I had managed to avoid seeing until now. Verdict: a top-notch disaster movie shackled to a godawful romance movie. For the non-disaster bits I'd been expecting, I don't know, a middlebrow PBS Trollope adaptation-level of quality, but I'd forgotten that Cameron wrote as well as directed, so of course everything is clunky and tin-eared and obvious and people act in ways that are ever so slightly adjacent to how humans are supposed to act. The only people who even come close to selling the dialogue are DiCaprio and Kathy Bates and at least Billy Zane is fun to watch as an outright psychopath. But...I was never bored, and the second half is legitimately exhilarating and an impressive technical achievement. I get why people heaped praise on it despite its obvious flaws, even if I don't understand how it received near universal critical acclaim and won all of the awards, or why everyone felt compelled to watch it over and over and over and over and over again from December of 1997 to April of 1998. I don't know that it rises to Unpopular Opinion, but I find the romance part of the movie to be fine. The only part that was godawful is the contemporary treasure-hunt stuff. Bill Paxton does the worst work of his career, the fat guy is abrasive for no reason, the old lady was the source of a thousand punchlines, and it only added time to a very long movie. James Cameron could have just made an acceptable period piece with cool effects, but instead he had to talk about his real passion which is undersea exploration. Also, Rose's daughter was completely superfluous in the modern story, but it turns out Cameron was having an affair with the actress.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 21:47:35 GMT -5
The Girl With All The Gifts - Fucking brilliant movie. Loved every minute of it! Hope Sennia Nanua has a long and successful acting career. Glenn Close is amazing as always. It took me a few years to get to this one out of zombie overload, but glad I did. Saw this tonight--quite intriguing movie. Apparently portions of the aerial footage are of Pripyat, Ukraine (site of Chernobyl). I'd bet it has some personal relevance for Glenn Close since her father was Dr. William Close, who played a major role in the first documented outbreak of Ebola in 1976.
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Post by ganews on May 31, 2020 20:51:34 GMT -5
Isolation week 11 movies
Vice The two obvious points of comparison are W and The Big Short. Basically, take the lookalike casting and structure of the former, add the outlook and framing of the latter. I can't imagine watching this movie without having seen the other two. It was okay. Not as striking as The Big Short (at least if you were following politics in the Bush years like I was), and not funny for obvious reasons. There was sort of a gap between apparently-slow young Cheney and coming-into-his-own 1975 Cheney that I would have liked to see more of (also between young-fuckup Cheney and Hill staffer Cheney, but who cares about that). Much is made of Christian Bale's Batman-voiced Cheney, and he is very good even if the makeup for 20-something Cheney is weird looking, but the real soul and perfect performance is Steve Carell as Rumsfeld. Always nice to see Shea Whigham and Bill Camp pop up too. Every time the script mentions vapid Americans who ignore important issues the camera lingers on young women.
Vox Lux A very off 2018 movie that I don't think I had ever heard of. A young girl nearly killed in a school shooting in 2000 writes a song and becomes a pop star who after a timeskip is played by Natalie Portman. The extremely graphic shooting doesn't influence the movie in any way really besides being the first thing that happens. 9/11 happens but isn't really important. Later on there are some shootings where the terrorists where masks from Portman music videos, which also does not really influence the movie. The whole thing is narrated by Willem Dafoe like this was a Wes Anderson movie. At least 45 minutes go by in a prologue without the headlining actress; then Natalie plays the 31-year-old singer with a very different accent from Young Portman, and the teen actress who played Young Portman plays Adult Portman's daughter. But Portman's sister is played by the same actress throughout! Weird. It all ends with concert footage. There is no great fall of Ziggy Stardust, just an extended bio sequence and then one day in the life of a messy pop star who was very influenced by Madonna.
Cast Away An important entry in the pantheon of America's Dad. Indeed this is a reasonable portrayal of how your dad might survive on a desert island, give or take participation in RPGs and Boy Scouts (and the ice skates are practically a deus ex machina). And even though I feel like we watch for the Robinson Crusoe stuff, half the movie takes place on US soil with Hanks and/or Hunt dealing with their feelings. Hey, it's the chief from Justified, when he still had some hair. Notable moments: Hanks stomach-turning coral stab; the last look at the island mixed with fear and regret; the pounds of leftover banquet food at the return party (who serves sashimi to a man recently lost at sea?). We never got to find out what was in that package delivered to the attractive ranch lady!
The Great Lord of the Rings Marathon Wifemate, and I am embarrassed to admit this, has never seen all these movies. (I did get her to watch Fellowship once years ago and she couldn't stop being annoyed at Merry and Pippin. She also went with me to the theater to see The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and slept through the only truly important scene, Gollum's cave.) I of course saw them each in the theater and many times since but never all together like this. It was actually her idea to do this marathon, perhaps because she's tired of all these years of me saying "PO-TAY-TOES" and the like.
- The Fellowship of the Ring I love this movie so much. Is it my favorite of the three? So beautiful, so full of hope, so quotable. This all holds up so well, even the CGI Legolas is not too bad. Think back to 2001, seeing Elrond when the only other Hugo Weaving you had seen was The Matrix. What a cast this was. Everyone is so young. Who is the best character in part 1? I'm going to go with Gandalf, but it's not an easy choice. Looking back at the credits and seeing Liv Tyler with such high billing, I am reminded of Halle Berry in X-Men one year earlier (a reflection of the time, not to disparage Tyler's acting). - The Two Towers I haven't seen these extended editions since college, and now I am reminded of how unnecessary they really are. Extra scenes of Merry and Pippin finding pipe weed and Denethor being a dick in two movies instead of one. Theoden is also such a putz, prone to despair and not all that thankful despite constantly being bailed out by the fellowship. I did not realize until today that John Rhys-Davies also voices Treebeard, and today I also went "hey, that's Karl Urban!" Brad Dourif as goth icon. Who is the best character in part 2? Smeagol.
- Return of the King My favorite cold open ever. Part 3 was the real showcase for Elijah Wood. Once again, amazing how well the battle effects hold up.Unlike The Two Towers, the additional scenes really add something to this movie. And oh god, Shelob the spider. They sure do make Eowyn/Faramir happen fast after she spent half a movie crushing on Aragorn. Did not remember Hugo Weaving showing this much emotion at the wedding. They were right not to include the Scouring of the Shire. Who is the best character in part 3? Samwise Gamgee, obviously. If Nudeviking were alive, he would remind us that Sam is the only hobbit who fucks. Wifemate took a little prodding in Part 2, but I'm proud of her.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jun 1, 2020 9:10:41 GMT -5
- The Fellowship of the Ring I love this movie so much. Is it my favorite of the three? So beautiful, so full of hope, so quotable. This all holds up so well, even the CGI Legolas is not too bad. Think back to 2001, seeing Elrond when the only other Hugo Weaving you had seen was The Matrix. This may be an age thing, as I had seen The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert long before I saw The Matrix. (A couple of years felt like a long time back then, anyway).
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jun 1, 2020 11:45:01 GMT -5
- The Fellowship of the Ring I love this movie so much. Is it my favorite of the three? So beautiful, so full of hope, so quotable. This all holds up so well, even the CGI Legolas is not too bad. Think back to 2001, seeing Elrond when the only other Hugo Weaving you had seen was The Matrix. This may be an age thing, as I had seen The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert long before I saw The Matrix. (A couple of years felt like a long time back then, anyway). I did, too, and it was long enough that it took me a while to put together that the guys from Matrix and Memento were in Priscilla.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jun 1, 2020 22:00:16 GMT -5
Isolation week 11 movies
Vice The two obvious points of comparison are W and The Big Short. Basically, take the lookalike casting and structure of the former, add the outlook and framing of the latter. I can't imagine watching this movie without having seen the other two. It was okay. Not as striking as The Big Short (at least if you were following politics in the Bush years like I was), and not funny for obvious reasons. There was sort of a gap between apparently-slow young Cheney and coming-into-his-own 1975 Cheney that I would have liked to see more of (also between young-fuckup Cheney and Hill staffer Cheney, but who cares about that). Much is made of Christian Bale's Batman-voiced Cheney, and he is very good even if the makeup for 20-something Cheney is weird looking, but the real soul and perfect performance is Steve Carell as Rumsfeld. Always nice to see Shea Whigham and Bill Camp pop up too. Every time the script mentions vapid Americans who ignore important issues the camera lingers on young women.
Vox Lux A very off 2018 movie that I don't think I had ever heard of. A young girl nearly killed in a school shooting in 2000 writes a song and becomes a pop star who after a timeskip is played by Natalie Portman. The extremely graphic shooting doesn't influence the movie in any way really besides being the first thing that happens. 9/11 happens but isn't really important. Later on there are some shootings where the terrorists where masks from Portman music videos, which also does not really influence the movie. The whole thing is narrated by Willem Dafoe like this was a Wes Anderson movie. At least 45 minutes go by in a prologue without the headlining actress; then Natalie plays the 31-year-old singer with a very different accent from Young Portman, and the teen actress who played Young Portman plays Adult Portman's daughter. But Portman's sister is played by the same actress throughout! Weird. It all ends with concert footage. There is no great fall of Ziggy Stardust, just an extended bio sequence and then one day in the life of a messy pop star who was very influenced by Madonna.
Cast Away An important entry in the pantheon of America's Dad. Indeed this is a reasonable portrayal of how your dad might survive on a desert island, give or take participation in RPGs and Boy Scouts (and the ice skates are practically a deus ex machina). And even though I feel like we watch for the Robinson Crusoe stuff, half the movie takes place on US soil with Hanks and/or Hunt dealing with their feelings. Hey, it's the chief from Justified, when he still had some hair. Notable moments: Hanks stomach-turning coral stab; the last look at the island mixed with fear and regret; the pounds of leftover banquet food at the return party (who serves sashimi to a man recently lost at sea?). We never got to find out what was in that package delivered to the attractive ranch lady!
The Great Lord of the Rings Marathon Wifemate, and I am embarrassed to admit this, has never seen all these movies. (I did get her to watch Fellowship once years ago and she couldn't stop being annoyed at Merry and Pippin. She also went with me to the theater to see The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and slept through the only truly important scene, Gollum's cave.) I of course saw them each in the theater and many times since but never all together like this. It was actually her idea to do this marathon, perhaps because she's tired of all these years of me saying "PO-TAY-TOES" and the like.
- The Fellowship of the Ring I love this movie so much. Is it my favorite of the three? So beautiful, so full of hope, so quotable. This all holds up so well, even the CGI Legolas is not too bad. Think back to 2001, seeing Elrond when the only other Hugo Weaving you had seen was The Matrix. What a cast this was. Everyone is so young. Who is the best character in part 1? I'm going to go with Gandalf, but it's not an easy choice. Looking back at the credits and seeing Liv Tyler with such high billing, I am reminded of Halle Berry in X-Men one year earlier (a reflection of the time, not to disparage Tyler's acting). - The Two Towers I haven't seen these extended editions since college, and now I am reminded of how unnecessary they really are. Extra scenes of Merry and Pippin finding pipe weed and Denethor being a dick in two movies instead of one. Theoden is also such a putz, prone to despair and not all that thankful despite constantly being bailed out by the fellowship. I did not realize until today that John Rhys-Davies also voices Treebeard, and today I also went "hey, that's Karl Urban!" Brad Dourif as goth icon. Who is the best character in part 2? Smeagol.
- Return of the King My favorite cold open ever. Part 3 was the real showcase for Elijah Wood. Once again, amazing how well the battle effects hold up.Unlike The Two Towers, the additional scenes really add something to this movie. And oh god, Shelob the spider. They sure do make Eowyn/Faramir happen fast after she spent half a movie crushing on Aragorn. Did not remember Hugo Weaving showing this much emotion at the wedding. They were right not to include the Scouring of the Shire. Who is the best character in part 3? Samwise Gamgee, obviously. If Nudeviking were alive, he would remind us that Sam is the only hobbit who fucks. Wifemate took a little prodding in Part 2, but I'm proud of her. How annoyed with Merry and Pippin was your wife this time around? Also what was your opinion of the good moth?
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Post by ganews on Jun 1, 2020 23:15:41 GMT -5
The Great Lord of the Rings Marathon Wifemate, and I am embarrassed to admit this, has never seen all these movies. (I did get her to watch Fellowship once years ago and she couldn't stop being annoyed at Merry and Pippin. She also went with me to the theater to see The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and slept through the only truly important scene, Gollum's cave.) I of course saw them each in the theater and many times since but never all together like this. It was actually her idea to do this marathon, perhaps because she's tired of all these years of me saying "PO-TAY-TOES" and the like. How annoyed with Merry and Pippin was your wife this time around? Also what was your opinion of the good moth? Every time they did something good I would whisper at her "Not useless!". After the run she declared she was more interested when the various hobbits were on screen than not, which is consistent with her policy of caring about animals more than people in fictional entertainment.
I myself had forgotten that the moth re-appears in ROTK which is a bit silly honestly but I am pro-moth. In this house we are also fans of the thrush in The Hobbit.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jun 1, 2020 23:37:54 GMT -5
How annoyed with Merry and Pippin was your wife this time around? Also what was your opinion of the good moth? Every time they did something good I would whisper at her "Not useless!". After the run she declared she was more interested when the various hobbits were on screen than not, which is consistent with her policy of caring about animals more than people in fictional entertainment.
I myself had forgotten that the moth re-appears in ROTK which is a bit silly honestly but I am pro-moth. In this house we are also fans of the thrush in The Hobbit.
The good moth is my favorite LOTR character hands down. Unfortunately my my favorite Hobbit character doesnโt appear in the movies. Iโm talking, of course, about the sentient talking wallet that gives Bilbo away when heโs trying to steal from the trolls.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 0:08:31 GMT -5
Finally watched Uncut Gems. Fucking christ, that movie was giving me anxiety attacks. I actually had to leave the room during the auction scene it was too much for me. No other movie has done that.
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Post by oppy all along on Jun 6, 2020 4:20:13 GMT -5
Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019): It's not so much the movie (Portrait is amazing, I've said this many times) that a movie theatre opened in my state and I was able to see a movie on the big screen. I loved every second of the old ladies two rows back explaining the parallels to Orpheus and Eurydice to each other, during the movie, even as the movie spelled it out very clearly.
It was also my first time seeing Portrait on the big screen, which was both way better and also super uncomfortable at points. You don't appreciate how graphic a sex scene is until it's on a giant projector with a massive sound system.
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Post by William T. Goat, Esq. on Jun 7, 2020 16:57:25 GMT -5
Dragonheart 2: More Like Dragon Fart, Amirite
Wait, there are FIVE Dragonheart movies now? Netflix has them all, but they're going away soon, so I thought I'd catch up.
Of course I loved the original. Mythical creatures as people! This sequel went straight to video 4 years later. Was it a rush job? The dragon effects from the original have aged only a little bit, but the effects in 2 were pretty bad, even at the time of release; bad lighting, stiff movements. The story seems more squarely aimed at kids than the original, and the fights are strangely bloodless.
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Post by ganews on Jun 7, 2020 23:26:48 GMT -5
Isolation week 12 movies
I turned on TCM and technically sat through the Marx Brothers Monkey Business and Horse Feathers but I was incredibly tired from virtual conference all week and really should have been in bed. A thing that is not pointed out often enough is how cool are those little finger-gun keystrokes Chico does when he plays piano.
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Jun 8, 2020 8:27:01 GMT -5
Isolation week 12 movies I turned on TCM and technically sat through the Marx Brothers Monkey Business and Horse Feathers but I was incredibly tired from virtual conference all week and really should have been in bed. A thing that is not pointed out often enough is how cool are those little finger-gun keystrokes Chico does when he plays piano. I always think I should go back and watch all of their films, but I found the few later ones I've seen to be pretty bad (The Big Store has this awful scene about a large family buying a bed that seems to go on forever and a musical sequence Groucho called the worst thing he'd ever heard). The first four or five I could probably watch endlessly and still enjoy though. I never really appreciated the harp/piano interludes--when my dad first introduced me to the films on VHS he'd always fast-forward those parts to keep both our interests.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Jun 8, 2020 22:03:43 GMT -5
Iโm going through The Dissolve old Laser Age series on science fiction film from the mid sixties through the early eighties and decided to watch one of the strangerโor strange that it was includedโfilms mentioned, the American International Pictures comedy Dr. Goldfoot And The Bikini Machine, starring Frankie Avalon and Vincent Price (thankfully on Dailymotion so I didnโt need to rent it). Thanks to MST3K and Modern Love Iโve become AIP sympathetic, and the one Avalon/Funicello movie Iโve mostly seen (thanks TCM) I enjoyed, so I thought Iโd try this out. It starts out promisingโthe opening credits are surprisingly good (with the Supremes singing the theme), and the humorโs bad itโs sort of bad in a good, more-or-less gentle early sixties sitcommy way, almost innocent really. The main way the robots control theire targets is by witholding sex, which is kind of what the film does tooโa dozen dancing bikini-clad robots is more, well, beach party-ish than anything actually dirty. It was made in 1965 but feels like its from earlier in the sixties. Itโs also generously padded, but at least 1960s SF is picturesque. I was surprised how well it held my attention, andโฆ โฆthen I fell asleep in my chair and missed pretty much the entire second half of the film. Oh well. Legend has it that Dr Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine was originally conceived as a musical, and there was film of Vincent Price singing, supposedly quite well. Apparently the producers changed there minds about that sometime during production, and that footage is lost. Just imagine what could have been.
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Post by Angry Raisins on Jun 10, 2020 13:00:57 GMT -5
Finally watched Uncut Gems. Fucking christ, that movie was giving me anxiety attacks. I actually had to leave the room during the auction scene it was too much for me. No other movie has done that. Not a very similar film, but Locke is pretty good for that.
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Post by Nudeviking on Jun 14, 2020 21:52:30 GMT -5
Descendants 3 (2019) - Some made for TV(?) Disney thing about the descendants of famous Disney villains doing heroics or some shit. There were princesses and song & dance numbers so my daughter was into it. It was not particularly well acted or well made but it amused a small child for an hour and a half. Maybe I'd have been more into it if I'd seen the first two movies of the trilogy.
The Parent Trap (1998) - I'd only seen the 1960s one on account of being a young adult when this version came out and therefore having no reason to watch a late 90s remake of a movie for small children. Now that a small child lives in my house I've ended up seeing a lot of movies that fall into the "I was too old for this when it came out and too not a parent to see it prior to this very moment" category. This was very much a PG movie from the 1990s. There were some Home Alone style antics and Dennis Quaid. As far as child actors go, Lindsay Lohan was not as annoying as some of them are in their movies.
Inside Out (2015) - I've seen this before. I think it might be the best Pixar movie.
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Post by ganews on Jun 15, 2020 0:07:20 GMT -5
Isolation week 13 movies
Long Shot Cross a Seth Rogen movie with Aaron Sorkin's The American President, this is what you get, except the latter actually had more realistic politics for the time. It's a cute rom-com that dips various toes, particularly idealism vs. compromise, but never jumps in. The movie should have gone full VEEP and never made direct references to party or real life. Touches like parody-FOX News are weak tea in the face of reality (this movie came out in 2019), and Bob Odenkirk essentially plays a Democratic Party Trump which is amusing in action but kind of impossible structurally in real life. So is the secretly Republican black best friend who resembles zero real people in 2019. The actual rom-com content is fine, and it's a shame to ham-handedly blur that with the stark reality of politics in, again, 2019. Rogen getting a partial swastika tattoo while undercover and transforming it into a running stick figure named Adolph Stickler is pretty solid. Andy Serkis goes full Tom Cruise-in-Tropic Thunder for no particular reason. And Seth Rogen in the Seth Rogen role. Ad Astra Somebody got a chubby after watching the first successful touchdown of the reusable SpaceX rocket and decided to write Heart of Darkness IN SPACE but this time Colonel Kurtz is your FATHER. Brad Pitt is disconnected with humanity and so goes to the moon, Mars, and Neptune, all the while grappling with the world's least accurate robot psychiatrist, an astronaut flight corps made entirely of religious and/or mentally unfit people, the heaviest of heavy-handed symbolism, and a bunch of terrible physics. All the space physics were created by someone who learned by watching space movies, except they were also checking their phone throughout. My favorites of the obvious symbolism were the ones I called before they came on-screen: Brad Pitt and his father are literally connected by an umbilical cord that has to be cut (in the Venture Brothers it's for comedy, and Pitt drinks from a wall-mounted nipple bottle like he's nursing (in case it wasn't obvious the movie intercuts a flash of child-Pitt being carried). At least the space animation is good, and Brad Pitt gets to reconnect with Grimes Liv Tyler. Basically the exact opposite of The Martian.
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Post by Hachiman on Jun 15, 2020 1:39:24 GMT -5
Despite the author being a TERF, my family and I have been going through the Harry Potter series after getting some used blurays for cheap. Being used, proceeds or the sale do not revert to Rowling. I've somehow managed to get through all the books and movies by methods such as the library or watching when they show up on tv. At this point, JK Rowling has yet to get any actual money out of me. It wasn't initially intentional, but I can't think of any other creators of popular media who I could say this for.
Anyway, on to separating the creator from their works. We watched the third, fourth and fifth movie over the weekend, which is basically my favorite stretch of the series. I find the first two movies a bit too kiddish and the last 3 movies a bit too dark. They're all well-made, but my sweet spot is apparently the space between them being really childish and them basically being one drawn-out 3 movie-long confrontation, Really, I feel like you could throw the 5th movie into that as well. Its basically one giant movie after Goblet of Fire.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jun 15, 2020 9:13:56 GMT -5
This weekend I watched Knives Out (2019) - finally - and enjoyed it very much. It was fun! I love a good murder mystery with a Columbo-ish twist. It did have the effect of making me wish we had more mid-budget movies aimed at adults, however.
I also watched ESPN's 30 for 30 Be Water (2020), about Bruce Lee. I only knew snippets of trivia about him and I've always been aware of him as a sort of mythological figure, so sitting down and watching a comprehensive account about his real life was fascinating. It was a well-made film, and my only complaint is that the text identifying speakers or places/years was in white and was very small, which made it hard to read.
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Post by sarapen on Jun 15, 2020 9:49:26 GMT -5
I watched Fire and Ice (1983) this past weekend. I thought I'd seen it before but I remembered nothing except the 2 seconds in the climax where the guy with the ax kills the evil wizard. Possibly my older brother rented it at some point in the 90s and I saw it then? Anyway, it's not very good, especially when considered with modern sensibilities. It's about Conan-type mighty-thewed heroes fighting against the conquering hordes of an evil wizard, but honestly, the plot feels like an excuse to animate several disconnected Frank Frazetta sketches and paintings - Death Dealer on a horse, the one where a chick in a bikini is sitting on a throne while a jaguar lies at her feet, the one where Conan leaps into battle roaring in defiance as he raises his weapons defiantly over his head. Animation-wise, the movie is fine. It uses that Ralph Bakshi rotoscoping technique so if you find it off-putting, I do not recommend watching this. And speaking of Frank Frazetta, I hope you like his fixation on scantily-clad thicc women and equally scantily-clad large-muscled men. Actually, I hope you really like scantily-clad large-muscled men since I reckon 90% of the camera's gaze is lovingly focused on their powerful bodies in action. But that 10% focused on scantily-clad thicc women is, uh, pretty misogynistic. If you're not clear on what "male gaze" means I would suggest watching all the scenes with female characters in this movie. Thighs, asses, nipples poking through bikini tops - the gaze of the unseen male watcher savagely wanking behind the camera is suffocatingly present. In fact, aesthetically and politically, Fire and Ice reminds me of 300. I remember walking out after the end of 300 and remarking, "Boy, that was a really fascist movie". Both movies are about perfect Aryan specimens defending their proud and noble people against hordes of dark-skinned degenerates. Women exist to be leered at but not have sex with while evil men exist to be killed and to be tempted to have sex with thanks to strong homoerotic undertones. It's really hard for me to imagine how you could make a Nazi sword and sorcery film without essentially making this movie. Anyway, the movie is an interesting look at what was considered politically acceptable to depict 40 years ago. By the way, was there another Fire and Ice animated movie from the 80s? I could have sworn there was one about a war between fire people and underwater sea people and I initially thought it was this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 10:06:26 GMT -5
Actually, I hope you really like scantily-clad large-muscled men since I reckon 90% of the camera's gaze is lovingly focused on their powerful bodies in action. But that 10% focused on scantily-clad thicc women is, uh, pretty misogynistic. If you're not clear on what "male gaze" means I would suggest watching all the scenes with female characters in this movie. Thighs, asses, nipples poking through bikini tops - the gaze of the unseen male watcher savagely wanking behind the camera is suffocatingly present. The one time I saw in this in the 2000s, I interpreted those sections as a pat on the head by the filmmakers to their perceived single male audience. "Sure, you're watching a movie that's 90% muscle men, but don't fret. We'll put even more accentuation on the female attributes during the 'romantic' scenes."
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Post by liebkartoffel on Jun 15, 2020 10:30:28 GMT -5
Despite the author being a TERF, my family and I have been going through the Harry Potter series after getting some used blurays for cheap. Being used, proceeds or the sale do not revert to Rowling. I've somehow managed to get through all the books and movies by methods such as the library or watching when they show up on tv. At this point, JK Rowling has yet to get any actual money out of me. It wasn't initially intentional, but I can't think of any other creators of popular media who I could say this for. Anyway, on to separating the creator from their works. We watched the third, fourth and fifth movie over the weekend, which is basically my favorite stretch of the series. I find the first two movies a bit too kiddish and the last 3 movies a bit too dark. They're all well-made, but my sweet spot is apparently the space between them being really childish and them basically being one drawn-out 3 movie-long confrontation, Really, I feel like you could throw the 5th movie into that as well. Its basically one giant movie after Goblet of Fire. I think the 5th movie might be my favorite, which is weird because I think Order of the Phoenix the book is kind of a bloated slog. Turns out it's a lot easier to watch someone be a surly teenager for a couple of hours than to have to inhabit the mind of a surly teenager for 800 pages. Casting Imelda Staunton was also a stroke of genius--outwardly motherly/inwardly evil movie-Umbridge is far more effective than book-Umbridge, who's described as just an ugly fat toad who likes pink (because ha ha, fat people are stupid and silly and evil, as Rowling repeatedly attests).
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Post by sarapen on Jun 15, 2020 10:56:10 GMT -5
The one time I saw in this in the 2000s, I interpreted those sections as a pat on the head by the filmmakers to their perceived single male audience. "Sure, you're watching a movie that's 90% muscle men, but don't fret. We'll put even more accentuation on the female attributes during the 'romantic' scenes." You made me realize that I can't remember ever buying into the romance in an action movie. I can believe that the characters are enamoured with each other in a romcom or a drama but I don't recall offhand any action movie where the damsel in distress was anything besides a living McGuffin to serve as an excuse for the violence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 11:09:43 GMT -5
Despite the author being a TERF, my family and I have been going through the Harry Potter series after getting some used blurays for cheap. Being used, proceeds or the sale do not revert to Rowling. I've somehow managed to get through all the books and movies by methods such as the library or watching when they show up on tv. At this point, JK Rowling has yet to get any actual money out of me. It wasn't initially intentional, but I can't think of any other creators of popular media who I could say this for. Anyway, on to separating the creator from their works. We watched the third, fourth and fifth movie over the weekend, which is basically my favorite stretch of the series. I find the first two movies a bit too kiddish and the last 3 movies a bit too dark. They're all well-made, but my sweet spot is apparently the space between them being really childish and them basically being one drawn-out 3 movie-long confrontation, Really, I feel like you could throw the 5th movie into that as well. Its basically one giant movie after Goblet of Fire. I think the 5th movie might be my favorite, which is weird because I think Order of the Phoenix the book is kind of a bloated slog. Turns out it's a lot easier to watch someone be a surly teenager for a couple of hours than to have to inhabit the mind of a surly teenager for 800 pages. Casting Imelda Staunton was also a stroke of genius--outwardly motherly/inwardly evil movie-Umbridge is far more effective than book-Umbridge, who's described as just an ugly fat toad who likes pink (because ha ha, fat people are stupid and silly and evil, as Rowling repeatedly attests). YES! Movie Umbridge is 1000% better than Book Umbridge. And legitimately terrifying. I've had teachers (and one step-mother) who walked that line of seeming nice but being utter pieces of shit, and Umbridge makes them look like angels.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 11:11:12 GMT -5
The one time I saw in this in the 2000s, I interpreted those sections as a pat on the head by the filmmakers to their perceived single male audience. "Sure, you're watching a movie that's 90% muscle men, but don't fret. We'll put even more accentuation on the female attributes during the 'romantic' scenes." You made me realize that I can't remember ever buying into the romance in an action movie. I can believe that the characters are enamoured with each other in a romcom or a drama but I don't recall offhand any action movie where the damsel in distress was anything besides a living McGuffin to serve as an excuse for the violence. Heroically mansplaining, pantsgoblin swoops in to save sarapen from this misguided notion with movie examples of... ... I got nothing.
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Post by Mrs David Tennant on Jun 15, 2020 11:36:01 GMT -5
Despite the author being a TERF, my family and I have been going through the Harry Potter series after getting some used blurays for cheap. Being used, proceeds or the sale do not revert to Rowling. I've somehow managed to get through all the books and movies by methods such as the library or watching when they show up on tv. At this point, JK Rowling has yet to get any actual money out of me. It wasn't initially intentional, but I can't think of any other creators of popular media who I could say this for. Anyway, on to separating the creator from their works. We watched the third, fourth and fifth movie over the weekend, which is basically my favorite stretch of the series. I find the first two movies a bit too kiddish and the last 3 movies a bit too dark. They're all well-made, but my sweet spot is apparently the space between them being really childish and them basically being one drawn-out 3 movie-long confrontation, Really, I feel like you could throw the 5th movie into that as well. Its basically one giant movie after Goblet of Fire. I think the 5th movie might be my favorite, which is weird because I think Order of the Phoenix the book is kind of a bloated slog. Turns out it's a lot easier to watch someone be a surly teenager for a couple of hours than to have to inhabit the mind of a surly teenager for 800 pages. Casting Imelda Staunton was also a stroke of genius--outwardly motherly/inwardly evil movie-Umbridge is far more effective than book-Umbridge, who's described as just an ugly fat toad who likes pink (because ha ha, fat people are stupid and silly and evil, as Rowling repeatedly attests). I have a hard time with Order of the Phoenix. I really, really have a hard time reading/watching injustice & bullying. Umbridge just makes me so angry!
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Post by Hachiman on Jun 15, 2020 19:54:24 GMT -5
I think the 5th movie might be my favorite, which is weird because I think Order of the Phoenix the book is kind of a bloated slog. Turns out it's a lot easier to watch someone be a surly teenager for a couple of hours than to have to inhabit the mind of a surly teenager for 800 pages. Casting Imelda Staunton was also a stroke of genius--outwardly motherly/inwardly evil movie-Umbridge is far more effective than book-Umbridge, who's described as just an ugly fat toad who likes pink (because ha ha, fat people are stupid and silly and evil, as Rowling repeatedly attests). YES! Movie Umbridge is 1000% better than Book Umbridge. And legitimately terrifying. I've had teachers (and one step-mother) who walked that line of seeming nice but being utter pieces of shit, and Umbridge makes them look like angels. Yeah, I have also met several Umbridges in my life, including teachers and also one step-mother, and Staunton really nails that aspect of being this predator pretending to be something benign and friendly. Like Mrs David Tennant I also have a hard time with the Umbridge scenes and a hard time when she shows up again in the books/movies. Not only is Umbridge the kind of evil that hides in plain sight but, even when caught, she's the kind of evil that people always let off the hook.
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Post by Nudeviking on Jun 15, 2020 20:41:27 GMT -5
The one time I saw in this in the 2000s, I interpreted those sections as a pat on the head by the filmmakers to their perceived single male audience. "Sure, you're watching a movie that's 90% muscle men, but don't fret. We'll put even more accentuation on the female attributes during the 'romantic' scenes." You made me realize that I can't remember ever buying into the romance in an action movie. I can believe that the characters are enamoured with each other in a romcom or a drama but I don't recall offhand any action movie where the damsel in distress was anything besides a living McGuffin to serve as an excuse for the violence. True Lies maybe?
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