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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Mar 28, 2021 21:48:27 GMT -5
Rango (2011) I had never gotten around to watching this, and was quite happily surprised by how much I enjoyed it. The voice cast is absolutely top notch, and the animation is superb. The plot is weirdly amazing, a beautiful homage to/deconstruction of classic westerns. Watching the movie was a feast, and watching the credits to see who provided the voices was dessert. I honestly couldn't identify everyone by their voices, which is kind of unusual for me, but it speaks to the way the actors disappeared into the roles, with the greatest collection of "western character voices" I've ever heard. Special shoutout to Timothy Olyphant! If you don't already know who does which voices, don't look it up until after you see the movie, it just makes everything better. (Watch for a possible inspiration for Immortan Joe at the Citadel.)
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Post by repulsionist on Mar 28, 2021 22:31:21 GMT -5
Floyd Diabolical Barber, when I watched this in cinema I had just recently seen Lemmon's Felix in The Odd Couple. I got extra laffs out of Depp's emulation.
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Post by repulsionist on Mar 29, 2021 20:03:20 GMT -5
Failed to honour their memory recount...
Born to Win (1971)
George Segal as an ex-hairdresser junkie. This was no Shampoo. More like a dirty rinse. I liked the fast-talking, failed safe robbery. I turned it off during the reduction-seduction of Karen Black.
Going Ape! (1980)
I don't think I even saw Jessica Walter in the trailer. Just a bunch a "men of the forest". Didn't make the effort to start this. Liked all your Arrested Development and Play Misty for Me stuff, madame.
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 30, 2021 9:53:26 GMT -5
Blade Runner (1982) - So I’d never actually seen this before. There are like 97 different editions and different people were always telling me to watch different versions and paralysis of choice set in. Eventually I just decided to throw caution to the wind and watch whatever version was up on Netflix. That was maybe three weeks ago. Tonight I finally finished watching it.
I have to say that it was kind of amazing how a movie about a cop, the titular Blade Runner (played by perpetually damp Harrison Ford), hunting down renegade robots could cause me to fall asleep with boredom as many times as it did. Based on the description alone this movie should have ruled all the ass there was to rule but it was mostly just moist Harrison Ford trekking through the trudgemank of the futuristic year of 2019 and talking to robots about philosophical bullshit. It’s not all bad. The final battle between clammy Harrison Ford and a robot in his jocks is pretty good but that too ends with some philosophical bullshit instead of someone throwing nasty suplexes or putting a fool on blast.
Maybe it was the irksome score by Vangelis or maybe I just watched the wrong edition of Blade Runner but this kind of disappointed me because on paper I should have been all about this but in the end really wasn’t.
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Post by Mrs David Tennant on Mar 30, 2021 10:03:41 GMT -5
Blade Runner (1982) - So I’d never actually seen this before. There are like 97 different editions and different people were always telling me to watch different versions and paralysis of choice set in. Eventually I just decided to throw caution to the wind and watch whatever version was up on Netflix. That was maybe three weeks ago. Tonight I finally finished watching it. I have to say that it was kind of amazing how a movie about a cop, the titular Blade Runner (played by perpetually damp Harrison Ford), hunting down renegade robots could cause me to fall asleep with boredom as many times as it did. Based on the description alone this movie should have ruled all the ass there was to rule but it was mostly just moist Harrison Ford trekking through the trudgemank of the futuristic year of 2019 and talking to robots about philosophical bullshit. It’s not all bad. The final battle between clammy Harrison Ford and a robot in his jocks is pretty good but that too ends with some philosophical bullshit instead of someone throwing nasty suplexes or putting a fool on blast. Maybe it was the irksome score by Vangelis or maybe I just watched the wrong edition of Blade Runner but this kind of disappointed me because on paper I should have been all about this but in the end really wasn’t. I saw the sequel without having seen the original - doesn't sound like I missed much. |
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Post by pantsgoblin on Mar 30, 2021 10:03:44 GMT -5
Blade Runner (1982) - So I’d never actually seen this before. There are like 97 different editions and different people were always telling me to watch different versions and paralysis of choice set in. Eventually I just decided to throw caution to the wind and watch whatever version was up on Netflix. That was maybe three weeks ago. Tonight I finally finished watching it. I have to say that it was kind of amazing how a movie about a cop, the titular Blade Runner (played by perpetually damp Harrison Ford), hunting down renegade robots could cause me to fall asleep with boredom as many times as it did. Based on the description alone this movie should have ruled all the ass there was to rule but it was mostly just moist Harrison Ford trekking through the trudgemank of the futuristic year of 2019 and talking to robots about philosophical bullshit. It’s not all bad. The final battle between clammy Harrison Ford and a robot in his jocks is pretty good but that too ends with some philosophical bullshit instead of someone throwing nasty suplexes or putting a fool on blast. Maybe it was the irksome score by Vangelis or maybe I just watched the wrong edition of Blade Runner but this kind of disappointed me because on paper I should have been all about this but in the end really wasn’t. I'm a fan (though I've actually only ever seen the "Director's Cut" version) but I'd be the first to admit it's not the most involving story ever put on screen. It's really about soaking in the visuals and atmosphere. I also enjoyed 2049 much more than expected despite Jared Leto's godawful scenery-chewing and the disjointed score (Johann Johannsen was fired from the film and Hans Zimmer stepped in, and it shows). |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Mar 30, 2021 11:52:58 GMT -5
Blade Runner (1982) - So I’d never actually seen this before. There are like 97 different editions and different people were always telling me to watch different versions and paralysis of choice set in. Eventually I just decided to throw caution to the wind and watch whatever version was up on Netflix. That was maybe three weeks ago. Tonight I finally finished watching it. I have to say that it was kind of amazing how a movie about a cop, the titular Blade Runner (played by perpetually damp Harrison Ford), hunting down renegade robots could cause me to fall asleep with boredom as many times as it did. Based on the description alone this movie should have ruled all the ass there was to rule but it was mostly just moist Harrison Ford trekking through the trudgemank of the futuristic year of 2019 and talking to robots about philosophical bullshit. It’s not all bad. The final battle between clammy Harrison Ford and a robot in his jocks is pretty good but that too ends with some philosophical bullshit instead of someone throwing nasty suplexes or putting a fool on blast. Maybe it was the irksome score by Vangelis or maybe I just watched the wrong edition of Blade Runner but this kind of disappointed me because on paper I should have been all about this but in the end really wasn’t. Oh, no, don't do this to yourself. I spent years trying to understand Blade Runner - maybe I just haven't watched the right version, and if I watch this particular director's cut the film will resonate deeply within my soul!?!? Nope - I actually liked the "good" edition less somehow. I don't care whether Harrison Ford is a robot because his character is so robotic. The pace remains glacial, and most of the really memorable images from the film have very little relevance to the plot, which makes the movie come off like a pinterest board of B-tier cyberpunk vistas rather than, like, a narrative. (And one of these vaunted images, the giant Coke advertisement, is just that - an advertisement.)
Also, it's kinda racist. And not just in the sense where seemingly everyone in L.A. is Asian except all but one of the named characters.* Could you imagine a movie set in the antebellum years, in which a Northerner gets paid to kill some runaway slaves, and he does that, but then as the last slave lies dying he tells a story about all the cool things he saw on the plantation and how precious life is, and the hero is like, "wow, that's so deep?" Yikes.
*not as bad in this respect as the other ur-cyberpunk story, Neuromancer, a novel largely set in East Asia where the only named Asian character is... a robot... butler... ninja. Neuromancer on the other hand is actually good, a fever dream of prose that runs laps around Blade Runner.
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Post by haysoos on Mar 30, 2021 16:20:14 GMT -5
I'm one of those old bastards who saw the original Blade Runner in the old, apparently "terrible" original version with the voice-over narration and I loved that version. I've seen most of the other versions, and yeah, the voice-over was a bad idea, but most of the other changes are largely shrug worthy. Except any version where it's apparent or even overt that Deckard is a replicant, which is 100% stupid.
But overall, even though I think it's a great movie, it's not that great. Blade Runner's legacy as a cinematic masterpiece has been overblown considerably in the years since it came out.
In terms of a science fiction film, I'd rank up there with Gattaca, District 9, Primer or Twelve Monkeys - but it's no Day the Earth Stood Still, Children of Men, Terminator, Robocop, Aliens, The Thing, Mad Max: Fury Road, or even Inception or Matrix.
As a noir, it's amongst Blue Velvet, The Wrong Man, Lost Highway, or Mulholland Drive, but it's not the Maltese Falcon, Double Indemnity, The Big Heat or The Big Sleep.
In many ways I actually liked the sequel more.
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Post by LazBro on Mar 30, 2021 16:50:20 GMT -5
I'm one of those old bastards who saw the original Blade Runner in the old, apparently "terrible" original version with the voice-over narration and I loved that version. I've seen most of the other versions, and yeah, the voice-over was a bad idea, but most of the other changes are largely shrug worthy. Except any version where it's apparent or even overt that Deckard is a replicant, which is 100% stupid. But overall, even though I think it's a great movie, it's not that great. Blade Runner's legacy as a cinematic masterpiece has been overblown considerably in the years since it came out. In terms of a science fiction film, I'd rank up there with Gattaca, District 9, Primer or Twelve Monkeys - but it's no Day the Earth Stood Still, Children of Men, Terminator, Robocop, Aliens, The Thing, Mad Max: Fury Road, or even Inception or Matrix. As a noir, it's amongst Blue Velvet, The Wrong Man, Lost Highway, or Mulholland Drive, but it's not the Maltese Falcon, Double Indemnity, The Big Heat or The Big Sleep. In many ways I actually liked the sequel more. This is a serious under evaluation of Gattaca. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 30, 2021 19:03:41 GMT -5
Blade Runner (1982) - So I’d never actually seen this before. There are like 97 different editions and different people were always telling me to watch different versions and paralysis of choice set in. Eventually I just decided to throw caution to the wind and watch whatever version was up on Netflix. That was maybe three weeks ago. Tonight I finally finished watching it. I have to say that it was kind of amazing how a movie about a cop, the titular Blade Runner (played by perpetually damp Harrison Ford), hunting down renegade robots could cause me to fall asleep with boredom as many times as it did. Based on the description alone this movie should have ruled all the ass there was to rule but it was mostly just moist Harrison Ford trekking through the trudgemank of the futuristic year of 2019 and talking to robots about philosophical bullshit. It’s not all bad. The final battle between clammy Harrison Ford and a robot in his jocks is pretty good but that too ends with some philosophical bullshit instead of someone throwing nasty suplexes or putting a fool on blast. Maybe it was the irksome score by Vangelis or maybe I just watched the wrong edition of Blade Runner but this kind of disappointed me because on paper I should have been all about this but in the end really wasn’t. Oh, no, don't do this to yourself. I spent years trying to understand Blade Runner - maybe I just haven't watched the right version, and if I watch this particular director's cut the film will resonate deeply within my soul!?!? Nope - I actually liked the "good" edition less somehow. I don't care whether Harrison Ford is a robot because his character is so robotic. The pace remains glacial, and most of the really memorable images from the film have very little relevance to the plot, which makes the movie come off like a pinterest board of B-tier cyberpunk vistas rather than, like, a narrative. (And one of these vaunted images, the giant Coke advertisement, is just that - an advertisement.) Also, it's kinda racist. And not just in the sense where seemingly everyone in L.A. is Asian except all but one of the named characters.* Could you imagine a movie set in the antebellum years, in which a Northerner gets paid to kill some runaway slaves, and he does that, but then as the last slave lies dying he tells a story about all the cool things he saw on the plantation and how precious life is, and the hero is like, "wow, that's so deep?" Yikes.
*not as bad in this respect as the other ur-cyberpunk story, Neuromancer, a novel largely set in East Asia where the only named Asian character is... a robot... butler... ninja. Neuromancer on the other hand is actually good, a fever dream of prose that runs laps around Blade Runner.
I think the fact that I saw this after seeing/playing/reading so much other cyberpunk media clearly indebted to this that takes the atmosphere while presenting a far more engaging story might have been another reason why I wasn't as keen on this as I thought I might have been. As for the racism, boy howdy was there a lot of it. I was hit more by how scared Americans of the 1980s apparently were of Asians "overrunning" American cities but what you say about the robots also rings true. All the robots are either sex workers or killers or presented as childlike and the one in his jocks at the end kind of embodies the "magical Negro" trope. He's there to save damp Harrison Ford at the end and hit him with some hard truth about life before dying. It's all pretty bad. I'm one of those old bastards who saw the original Blade Runner in the old, apparently "terrible" original version with the voice-over narration and I loved that version. I've seen most of the other versions, and yeah, the voice-over was a bad idea, but most of the other changes are largely shrug worthy. Except any version where it's apparent or even overt that Deckard is a replicant, which is 100% stupid. But overall, even though I think it's a great movie, it's not that great. Blade Runner's legacy as a cinematic masterpiece has been overblown considerably in the years since it came out. In terms of a science fiction film, I'd rank up there with Gattaca, District 9, Primer or Twelve Monkeys - but it's no Day the Earth Stood Still, Children of Men, Terminator, Robocop, Aliens, The Thing, Mad Max: Fury Road, or even Inception or Matrix. As a noir, it's amongst Blue Velvet, The Wrong Man, Lost Highway, or Mulholland Drive, but it's not the Maltese Falcon, Double Indemnity, The Big Heat or The Big Sleep. In many ways I actually liked the sequel more. There are versions where Deckard is a robot? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I think you kind of nailed my biggest problem with it when you said it's reputation is overblown. This is one of those movies that constantly get talked up as "THE BEST SCI-FI MOVIE EVER!!!!!1!!!!ONE!!!!!!" so I went into it expecting it to live up to that hype which it doesn't. It's not the worst movie I've ever seen but I think I probably would have been less disappointed if people talked about Blade Runner in more modest terms. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 30, 2021 20:07:45 GMT -5
Oh, no, don't do this to yourself. I spent years trying to understand Blade Runner - maybe I just haven't watched the right version, and if I watch this particular director's cut the film will resonate deeply within my soul!?!? Nope - I actually liked the "good" edition less somehow. I don't care whether Harrison Ford is a robot because his character is so robotic. The pace remains glacial, and most of the really memorable images from the film have very little relevance to the plot, which makes the movie come off like a pinterest board of B-tier cyberpunk vistas rather than, like, a narrative. (And one of these vaunted images, the giant Coke advertisement, is just that - an advertisement.) Also, it's kinda racist. And not just in the sense where seemingly everyone in L.A. is Asian except all but one of the named characters.* Could you imagine a movie set in the antebellum years, in which a Northerner gets paid to kill some runaway slaves, and he does that, but then as the last slave lies dying he tells a story about all the cool things he saw on the plantation and how precious life is, and the hero is like, "wow, that's so deep?" Yikes.
*not as bad in this respect as the other ur-cyberpunk story, Neuromancer, a novel largely set in East Asia where the only named Asian character is... a robot... butler... ninja. Neuromancer on the other hand is actually good, a fever dream of prose that runs laps around Blade Runner.
I think the fact that I saw this after seeing/playing/reading so much other cyberpunk media clearly indebted to this that takes the atmosphere while presenting a far more engaging story might have been another reason why I wasn't as keen on this as I thought I might have been. As for the racism, boy howdy was there a lot of it. I was hit more by how scared Americans of the 1980s apparently were of Asians "overrunning" American cities but what you say about the robots also rings true. All the robots are either sex workers or killers or presented as childlike and the one in his jocks at the end kind of embodies the "magical Negro" trope. He's there to save damp Harrison Ford at the end and hit him with some hard truth about life before dying. It's all pretty bad. I'm one of those old bastards who saw the original Blade Runner in the old, apparently "terrible" original version with the voice-over narration and I loved that version. I've seen most of the other versions, and yeah, the voice-over was a bad idea, but most of the other changes are largely shrug worthy. Except any version where it's apparent or even overt that Deckard is a replicant, which is 100% stupid. But overall, even though I think it's a great movie, it's not that great. Blade Runner's legacy as a cinematic masterpiece has been overblown considerably in the years since it came out. In terms of a science fiction film, I'd rank up there with Gattaca, District 9, Primer or Twelve Monkeys - but it's no Day the Earth Stood Still, Children of Men, Terminator, Robocop, Aliens, The Thing, Mad Max: Fury Road, or even Inception or Matrix. As a noir, it's amongst Blue Velvet, The Wrong Man, Lost Highway, or Mulholland Drive, but it's not the Maltese Falcon, Double Indemnity, The Big Heat or The Big Sleep. In many ways I actually liked the sequel more. There are versions where Deckard is a robot? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I think you kind of nailed my biggest problem with it when you said it's reputation is overblown. This is one of those movies that constantly get talked up as "THE BEST SCI-FI MOVIE EVER!!!!!1!!!!ONE!!!!!!" so I went into it expecting it to live up to that hype which it doesn't. It's not the worst movie I've ever seen but I think I probably would have been less disappointed if people talked about Blade Runner in more modest terms. Blade Runner is fine. I agree that I enjoyed 2049 more when I watched them both for the first time back-to-back. Here's a question: What is the genre template setter movie that does actually live up to the hype? |
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 30, 2021 20:24:27 GMT -5
I think the fact that I saw this after seeing/playing/reading so much other cyberpunk media clearly indebted to this that takes the atmosphere while presenting a far more engaging story might have been another reason why I wasn't as keen on this as I thought I might have been. As for the racism, boy howdy was there a lot of it. I was hit more by how scared Americans of the 1980s apparently were of Asians "overrunning" American cities but what you say about the robots also rings true. All the robots are either sex workers or killers or presented as childlike and the one in his jocks at the end kind of embodies the "magical Negro" trope. He's there to save damp Harrison Ford at the end and hit him with some hard truth about life before dying. It's all pretty bad. There are versions where Deckard is a robot? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I think you kind of nailed my biggest problem with it when you said it's reputation is overblown. This is one of those movies that constantly get talked up as "THE BEST SCI-FI MOVIE EVER!!!!!1!!!!ONE!!!!!!" so I went into it expecting it to live up to that hype which it doesn't. It's not the worst movie I've ever seen but I think I probably would have been less disappointed if people talked about Blade Runner in more modest terms. Blade Runner is fine. I agree that I enjoyed 2049 more when I watched them both for the first time back-to-back. Here's a question: What is the genre template setter movie that does actually live up to the hype? I'll probably end up watching 2049 some time in the near future to see if that one does it for me more than the original one did. As for your question about hype for genre defining movies I think Alien and/or Aliens and a lot of the kung fu movies that get listicled as "The Top 10 Kung Fu Movies of All Time" all sort of live up to the hype people heap upon them. I'm sure there are some more that will come to mind the more I think about it but those are the ones that immediately come to mind. |
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Mar 30, 2021 23:14:39 GMT -5
Pappilon (2017)
I wasn't even aware of this remake until yesterday, or if I was, I had dismissed it as just another shitty, unnecessary remake of a classic. I saw that it had a lot of good reviews and comments, so I gave it a shot. I have to say that it is one of those extremely rare remakes that is good enough to stand with the original, and different enough to be interesting in it's own right (see also, True Grit).
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Mar 30, 2021 23:25:16 GMT -5
Here's a question: What is the genre template setter movie that does actually live up to the hype? As for your question about hype for genre defining movies I think Alien and/or Aliens and a lot of the kung fu movies that get listicled as "The Top 10 Kung Fu Movies of All Time" all sort of live up to the hype people heap upon them. I'm sure there are some more that will come to mind the more I think about it but those are the ones that immediately come to mind. Here's the thing, imo - I think a genre template setter can only be a genre template setter if it is not outmoded in some way. Otherwise, the movies inspired by it aren't genre movies so much as they are ripoffs of the movie. This holds truer for other forms of media, particularly video games: it's why we describe first person shooters as a genre distinct from Quake or Wolfenstein or Doom or whatever, but we don't have a genre term for Mario Kart clones. |
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Post by haysoos on Mar 31, 2021 8:29:22 GMT -5
Pappilon (2017)
I wasn't even aware of this remake until yesterday, or if I was, I had dismissed it as just another shitty, unnecessary remake of a classic. I saw that it had a lot of good reviews and comments, so I gave it a shot. I have to say that it is one of those extremely rare remakes that is good enough to stand with the original, and different enough to be interesting in it's own right (see also, True Grit).
Huh. I was vaguely aware of the remake, but had dismissed it entirely as a shitty, unnecessary remake. Wasn't even aware of any good reviews or comments. Now I might have to give it a shot. Thanks! |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 31, 2021 8:36:52 GMT -5
As for your question about hype for genre defining movies I think Alien and/or Aliens and a lot of the kung fu movies that get listicled as "The Top 10 Kung Fu Movies of All Time" all sort of live up to the hype people heap upon them. I'm sure there are some more that will come to mind the more I think about it but those are the ones that immediately come to mind. Here's the thing, imo - I think a genre template setter can only be a genre template setter if it is not outmoded in some way. Otherwise, the movies inspired by it aren't genre movies so much as they are ripoffs of the movie. This holds truer for other forms of media, particularly video games: it's why we describe first person shooters as a genre distinct from Quake or Wolfenstein or Doom or whatever, but we don't have a genre term for Mario Kart clones. It's a murky discussion for sure. Part of me wants to say "that's because Mario Kart is just Pole Position with more bells and whistles!", but you could easily say "Blade Runner is just noir with robots!" or some other similar statement about things that ARE generally accepted as creating a new kind of template. |
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Post by haysoos on Mar 31, 2021 8:59:42 GMT -5
As for genre-defining movies that live up to the hype:
I think Halloween, as the Ur-slasher film does indeed live up to its hype, and might even be better than what the genre has become, or quickly devolved to in the heady days of cheap video rentals and might surprise those who haven't seen it with how better it actually is.
Pulp Fiction, as the defining film of the Tarantino rip-offs that also filled the shelves of Blockbuster also lives up to whatever hype it has.
Double Indemnity could be considered a genre-defining noir classic, and I think it lives up to its hype.
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly lives up to its hype as the definitive spaghetti western. It is a fuck of a lot longer than a lot of people expect though. Fistful of Dollars also fits here.
I finally got around to actually watching The Godfather and The Godfather pt 2 last year, and was somewhat surprised to learn they did live up to their hype as the quintessential mob movies.
The Lord of the Rings trilogy still stands as THE epic fantasy paragon. I think probably even more so cinematically than in literature.
The Thing is often hyped as one of the best horror movies ever made, and even more so as the best quarantine horror movie. That is definitely true.
Speaking of John Carpenter, Big Trouble in Little China lives up to the hype as being the best movie of whatever genre it was in.
And of course, people who haven't seen it probably get sick of hearing lines from the best movie ever about fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love, miracles... until they actually see the film and realize that if anything the movie was underhyped, and how could they not have seen it before? Inconceivable!
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Post by pantsgoblin on Mar 31, 2021 9:43:51 GMT -5
As for genre-defining movies that live up to the hype: I think Halloween, as the Ur-slasher film does indeed live up to its hype, and might even be better than what the genre has become, or quickly devolved to in the heady days of cheap video rentals and might surprise those who haven't seen it with how better it actually is. Pulp Fiction, as the defining film of the Tarantino rip-offs that also filled the shelves of Blockbuster also lives up to whatever hype it has. Double Indemnity could be considered a genre-defining noir classic, and I think it lives up to its hype. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly lives up to its hype as the definitive spaghetti western. It is a fuck of a lot longer than a lot of people expect though. Fistful of Dollars also fits here. I finally got around to actually watching The Godfather and The Godfather pt 2 last year, and was somewhat surprised to learn they did live up to their hype as the quintessential mob movies. The Lord of the Rings trilogy still stands as THE epic fantasy paragon. I think probably even more so cinematically than in literature. The Thing is often hyped as one of the best horror movies ever made, and even more so as the best quarantine horror movie. That is definitely true. Speaking of John Carpenter, Big Trouble in Little China lives up to the hype as being the best movie of whatever genre it was in. And of course, people who haven't seen it probably get sick of hearing lines from the best movie ever about fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love, miracles... until they actually see the film and realize that if anything the movie was underhyped, and how could they not have seen it before? Inconceivable! Speaking of the Tarantino-Carpenter connection, it really seemed like public opinion on The Thing changed when Tarantino cited its claustrophobia as a big influence on Reservoir Dogs. |
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Post by ganews on Mar 31, 2021 10:30:13 GMT -5
Star Wars Episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker Just saw it for the first time. Obviously there is nothing to say that hasn't been said a million times. It does indeed override any plot developments in 8, but it made up for that by cramming as much exposition as possible into the first 45 minutes. I know the franchise is built on repetition, but I was only surprised by it one time with the appearance of a certain actor that I did not expect. Was it the worst Star War? Possibly. It certainly did make the whole sequel trilogy feel needless.
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Post by Prole Hole on Apr 1, 2021 5:34:28 GMT -5
Godzilla v Kong (2021)
It's a perfectly good monsters punching monsters punching robots movie if you are in the mood to watch a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie. It's a little slow off the mark (not as slow as Godzilla 2014 was) but once the action gets going it really gets going. It's as dumb as a bag of wet hair, but what do you want from a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie? If the answer to that question is monsters punching monsters punching robots then you have come to the right movie. If the answer to that question is "nuanced personal drama" then you have not.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 1, 2021 6:59:01 GMT -5
Godzilla v Kong (2021) It's a perfectly good monsters punching monsters punching robots movie if you are in the mood to watch a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie. It's a little slow off the mark (not as slow as Godzilla 2014 was) but once the action gets going it really gets going. It's as dumb as a bag of wet hair, but what do you want from a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie? If the answer to that question is monsters punching monsters punching robots then you have come to the right movie. If the answer to that question is "nuanced personal drama" then you have not. This sounds like it is exactly the movie I need in my life right now. |
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on Apr 1, 2021 12:52:18 GMT -5
Here's a question: What is the genre template setter movie that does actually live up to the hype? I'd probably say The Matrix still holds up as an excellent, template setting movie. Although, maybe if you didn't see it at the time and instead just saw a bunch of the shitty knock-offs from the aughts it would feel really tired. Or if your younger and the pinnacle of serious action movies is the John Wick* stuff, then all the slowmo and stylized wire-fu is going to feel real silly. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 1, 2021 21:49:20 GMT -5
Godzilla v Kong (2021) It's a perfectly good monsters punching monsters punching robots movie if you are in the mood to watch a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie. It's a little slow off the mark (not as slow as Godzilla 2014 was) but once the action gets going it really gets going. It's as dumb as a bag of wet hair, but what do you want from a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie? If the answer to that question is monsters punching monsters punching robots then you have come to the right movie. If the answer to that question is "nuanced personal drama" then you have not. This sounds like it is exactly the movie I need in my life right now. This sounds like it is the only movie I've ever needed in my life. |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Apr 1, 2021 23:51:47 GMT -5
Godzilla v Kong (2021) It's a perfectly good monsters punching monsters punching robots movie if you are in the mood to watch a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie. It's a little slow off the mark (not as slow as Godzilla 2014 was) but once the action gets going it really gets going. It's as dumb as a bag of wet hair, but what do you want from a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie? If the answer to that question is monsters punching monsters punching robots then you have come to the right movie. If the answer to that question is "nuanced personal drama" then you have not.
I am someone who got a friend to come with me to Pacific Rim by saying, "Come on, it's a movie about giant monsters fighting giant robots!" And we went and had a lot of fun.
So, perhaps I will check this out.
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Post by Prole Hole on Apr 2, 2021 2:11:49 GMT -5
Godzilla v Kong (2021) It's a perfectly good monsters punching monsters punching robots movie if you are in the mood to watch a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie. It's a little slow off the mark (not as slow as Godzilla 2014 was) but once the action gets going it really gets going. It's as dumb as a bag of wet hair, but what do you want from a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie? If the answer to that question is monsters punching monsters punching robots then you have come to the right movie. If the answer to that question is "nuanced personal drama" then you have not.
I am someone who got a friend to come with me to Pacific Rim by saying, "Come on, it's a movie about giant monsters fighting giant robots!" And we went and had a lot of fun.
So, perhaps I will check this out.
Pacific Rim is definitely a good point of comparison. If you enjoyed Pacific Rim then the chances are you'll enjoy this. |
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Post by liebkartoffel on Apr 2, 2021 7:28:38 GMT -5
Here's a question: What is the genre template setter movie that does actually live up to the hype? I'd probably say The Matrix still holds up as an excellent, template setting movie. Although, maybe if you didn't see it at the time and instead just saw a bunch of the shitty knock-offs from the aughts it would feel really tired. Or if your younger and the pinnacle of serious action movies is the John Wick* stuff, then all the slowmo and stylized wire-fu is going to feel real silly. Every, and I mean every comedy produced between 1999 and 2004 was required to have at least one ironic bullet time sequence. |
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Post by nowimnothing on Apr 2, 2021 18:17:37 GMT -5
Godzilla v Kong (2021) It's a perfectly good monsters punching monsters punching robots movie if you are in the mood to watch a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie. It's a little slow off the mark (not as slow as Godzilla 2014 was) but once the action gets going it really gets going. It's as dumb as a bag of wet hair, but what do you want from a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie? If the answer to that question is monsters punching monsters punching robots then you have come to the right movie. If the answer to that question is "nuanced personal drama" then you have not. You almost spoiled me there. Probably the most fun I had in watching this was all the references to the old movies. I especially liked carrying King Kong in the net |
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Post by Prole Hole on Apr 3, 2021 2:54:03 GMT -5
Godzilla v Kong (2021) It's a perfectly good monsters punching monsters punching robots movie if you are in the mood to watch a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie. It's a little slow off the mark (not as slow as Godzilla 2014 was) but once the action gets going it really gets going. It's as dumb as a bag of wet hair, but what do you want from a monsters punching monsters punching robots movie? If the answer to that question is monsters punching monsters punching robots then you have come to the right movie. If the answer to that question is "nuanced personal drama" then you have not. You almost spoiled me there. Probably the most fun I had in watching this was all the references to the old movies. I especially liked carrying King Kong in the net That was exactly the right kind of stupid. Referential without being forced, thoroughly enjoyable and silly. |
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Post by Dellarigg on Apr 3, 2021 7:24:36 GMT -5
Taxi Driver stands up as the template of the lone whacko with a gun movie. If it is the template, I haven't done any research.
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Post by pantsgoblin on Apr 3, 2021 12:55:21 GMT -5
Taxi Driver stands up as the template of the lone whacko with a gun movie. If it is the template, I haven't done any research. About a year ago, I watched Peter Bogdanovich's debut Targets with a killer very much modeled off of Charles Whitman, the UT-Austin clocktower shooter. It had some unsettling predictions of the Manson killings the following year. However, I think Taxi Driver has proven to be just a prescient if not more so. The last time I watched it, I was struck by how the final step of Bickle losing his marbles entirely was getting rejected by Cybill Shepherd's character. That completely tracks with gunmen like Elliot Rodger of Isla Vista, CA, who decided to punish the world because he couldn't get any woman that, as a man, is apparently promised to him. |
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