Ice Cream Planet
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Post by Ice Cream Planet on Dec 1, 2015 20:00:02 GMT -5
you're right-- it was made for that! this will always be my favorite, though: I just howled with laughter from seeing this, which is probably not the best thing given it's one in the morning here. Eh, fuck it: this is so awesome! Also, just watching this is great:
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Post by pairesta on Dec 2, 2015 7:52:13 GMT -5
Not really feeling this season. Which means that for me at least the Alexandria arc was a giant whiff, which is too bad because there's alot they could have done with it. I can't believe TWD actually outdid FTWD on dumb kids but here we are. Rick's group heading the armory has so many goddamn liabilities: Psycho Kid Catatonic kid (can't even make it off the porch without fucking it up) A baby who could start crying any time The cowardly Father Sgt. Carver who told Rick he plans on leaving them behind at the first opportunity
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 3, 2015 9:12:24 GMT -5
Not really feeling this season. Which means that for me at least the Alexandria arc was a giant whiff, which is too bad because there's alot they could have done with it. It feels like it'll move away from that now, given the foreshadowed 'Negan' confrontation - and apparently his group and the group that attacked Alexandria this half-season (the Wolves, fond of disfiguring head marks) are unrelated, so I guess there might be some kind of three way chaos. Well, that and the whole city going to hell. This is usually the point in a Walking Dead arc where characters decide a place isn't worth staying in and move on. I have been kind of ambivalent about this season for sometimes petty reasons - the sound mix on the Abraham/Sasha/Daryl episode was terrible, for most of it I honestly thought there was a problem with my headphones - but it's pretty much doing what the show has done since Scott Gimple took over, which is be an ensemble series that likes breaking its ensemble into different constituent pieces and following those pieces as they move around the chessboard of a new crisis.
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Post by pairesta on Dec 3, 2015 10:07:27 GMT -5
but it's pretty much doing what the show has done since Scott Gimple took over, which is be an ensemble series that likes breaking its ensemble into different constituent pieces and following those pieces as they move around the chessboard of a new crisis. That's a good observation. And I guess that's my problem, is that the seams are really showing here. The whole quarry arc was just so sudden to drop in, and then the dawning realization that it was going to be the driving force of the half season, and now that it's over, it's back to wandering the wilderness again and running into yet another hostile group of Others. I dunno, I guess contra The Farm in season 2, they could have mined alot of good territory with Alexandria and had it really be a safe place for a while. We still could have had the Gimple technique of separate groups, going out scavenging, say, and brushing up gradually against the Wolves, or Negan's group, or whatever. It's just that as soon as Rick walked into Alexandria it immediately fell apart and we've been rushing to this conclusion ever since.
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Post by pairesta on Feb 15, 2016 9:04:06 GMT -5
Jesus Christ you guys. The show might be crossing into irredeemable territory for me. I just don't understand how it was able to pull its way out and become an actually good show just a season and a half ago, and now it's as dumb as it was in the first two seasons. Was there another showrunner change?
Daryl apparently has mini-nukes from Fallout to be able to knock out the entire Negan squad like that. And a gag straight out of Top Secret: Abraham and Sasha firing automatic weapons at enemies who are in close contact with your friend and somehow only hitting them.
It's almost comical how bad Rick was for Blonde Woman's family. Killed her husband, made out with her, sent one kid into a catatonic state, another into a psychotic fury, then got all of them eaten alive by walkers while he looked on. The last moment of conscious thought that poor woman probably had was seeing Rick reach for her . . . and lop her arm off because she was holding KORL.
I guess the upshot is that in one swoop they cleared the board of alot of plot liabilities and can maybe start fresh, but I'm losing interest rapidly.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Feb 15, 2016 22:30:12 GMT -5
I thought that guy was Negan so I assumed the show was hilariously undercutting over a year of build up but maybe not.
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Post by nowimnothing on Feb 19, 2016 21:28:22 GMT -5
Jesus Christ you guys. The show might be crossing into irredeemable territory for me. I just don't understand how it was able to pull its way out and become an actually good show just a season and a half ago, and now it's as dumb as it was in the first two seasons. Was there another showrunner change? Daryl apparently has mini-nukes from Fallout to be able to knock out the entire Negan squad like that. And a gag straight out of Top Secret: Abraham and Sasha firing automatic weapons at enemies who are in close contact with your friend and somehow only hitting them. It's almost comical how bad Rick was for Blonde Woman's family. Killed her husband, made out with her, sent one kid into a catatonic state, another into a psychotic fury, then got all of them eaten alive by walkers while he looked on. The last moment of conscious thought that poor woman probably had was seeing Rick reach for her . . . and lop her arm off because she was holding KORL. I guess the upshot is that in one swoop they cleared the board of alot of plot liabilities and can maybe start fresh, but I'm losing interest rapidly. It was pretty bad, but they did get rid of a lot of dead weight. I am ok with Daryl being some kind of superhuman every once in a while. I really thought the whole walk was a dream sequence. Odd that they teased the moppet calling out to his mom but that was ignored just so we could spend some more time with these crap characters. I actually would have been ok if the moppet had grown up a bit. As it was it looked like some character development and then it went to shit.
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Post by pairesta on Feb 25, 2016 8:20:57 GMT -5
So it looks indeed like last week's episode--one of the worst of the series, in retrospect--was a massive reset button on the entire Alexandria plotline. Now Rick's likeable and joking again, he and Daryl are hanging out for the first time in a couple seasons, he and Michonne finally hook up. All it took was a couple dozen people to die, including the head of Alexandria who welcomed him in and trusted him implicitly, and another woman whose life and family he utterly destroyed before she was eaten alive. And his son's eye. But hey, likeable, reasonable Rick is back.
It was a pretty breezy, enjoyable episode. This is really what the Alexandria arc should have been all along; not sure why they needed to kill everyone off and burn it to the ground just to get to this point.
Ninja Jesus is annoying though.
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Post by songstarliner on Feb 28, 2016 23:41:00 GMT -5
So, Abraham saying "I shit you not" in the first scene, combined with the episode title "Knots Untie" HAS TO BE a little in-joke, right? I kind of can't believe they didn't mention it on the walking dead. Anyway, I'm officially shipping Eugene and Abraham now.
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Post by pairesta on Mar 2, 2016 8:03:53 GMT -5
Another settlement that was doing just fine, then goes to shit the instant Rick sets foot in it. Rick's gang seems due for a major comeuppance. They're way too cocky about going up against the saviors, they extorted Gregory for more than the saviors did, they too easily beat that one party from the saviors, and of course this episode ended on way too hopeful a note. I mean, I vaguely know what might possibly happen next, but even without that I'd have a bad feeling about this.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Mar 2, 2016 23:20:54 GMT -5
pairesta Abraham seems to have a host of Unresolved Issues and Potential Death Wishes; I think he might not last.
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Post by pairesta on Mar 11, 2016 9:20:37 GMT -5
Why hasn't this show done a snow scene yet? They're in Virgina now, for crying out loud. A walker horde in a snowstorm? Trying to pick your way around a bunch of walkers frozen in place, not knowing when one will come to and attack?
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Mar 21, 2016 21:51:21 GMT -5
Where the heck was Tara?
Okay, so Denise dies randomally on a mission where Tara's nowhere to be seen. Leaving aside any of the issues people can and have with that creative choice we don't see Tara, her girlfriend, at all in this episode, even when her grave is being dug, which just takes me out of the whole thing.
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Post by songstarliner on Mar 21, 2016 23:17:36 GMT -5
Where the heck was Tara? Okay, so Denise dies randomally on a mission where Tara's nowhere to be seen. Leaving aside any of the issues people can and have with that creative choice we don't see Tara, her girlfriend, at all in this episode, even when her grave is being dug, which just takes me out of the whole thing. I think she was out on some kind of mission? Maybe with Glen? There was that whole thing about letting her leave without saying I Love You. But the details escape me, even though I've watched every episode. Compelling!
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Mar 22, 2016 7:19:12 GMT -5
songstarliner Man I thought that mission was, like, the raid on Negan's compound we've already seen - but I guess you may be right.
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Post by pairesta on Mar 23, 2016 20:54:18 GMT -5
Where the heck was Tara? Okay, so Denise dies randomally on a mission where Tara's nowhere to be seen. Leaving aside any of the issues people can and have with that creative choice we don't see Tara, her girlfriend, at all in this episode, even when her grave is being dug, which just takes me out of the whole thing. That was a really shitty way to kill her off, too. That's two kinda major deaths this season that were like "yeah, so whatever they die".
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Post by Djse (and a Sack of Cats) on Mar 28, 2016 14:19:09 GMT -5
I am going to go ahead and assume that... ...Daryl didn't just get straight-up murdered by Dwight... ...right?
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Post by pairesta on Mar 29, 2016 6:42:44 GMT -5
I am going to go ahead and assume that... ...Daryl didn't just get straight-up murdered by Dwight... ...right? Right when the credits start you hear Skinny Christian Bale guy say "You'll be fine."
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Post by pairesta on Mar 29, 2016 6:44:27 GMT -5
So now it's my wife's turn to be angry at the show. "You just sent every one of your best fighters away." It was ridiculous that we have not one but two "Looking for x" driving the plot this week. And it's all so transparently to make the Saviors get the drop on all of them. Carol's now the third "no more killing" character on the show, and it's really tiresome.
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Post by pairesta on Apr 4, 2016 5:47:30 GMT -5
Good thing I got spoiled on the finale or I'd have been pissed. So, WHO GOT LUCILLED?
SAFE: Rick KORL
Probably Safe: Daryl Michonne
Not Safe, but Really Anticlimactic if they got Lucilled: Sasha Eugene Whatsername
Most Likely: 1. Abraham 2. Glenn 3. Maggie
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Post by songstarliner on Apr 4, 2016 6:19:11 GMT -5
For maximum emotional impact, it should be either Glenn or Maggie. Maybe Maggie since she appears to be dying, plus Rick gave her the kiss-of-death pep talk about how "we can do ANYTHING," that dumbass.
I honestly do not care very much, but I'll be annoyed if it's Eugene. He's the best.
And if it turns out to be that red shirt guy from Alexandria, I will throw something at the tv in disgust.
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Post by pairesta on Apr 4, 2016 8:31:22 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more it's probably Abraham. If it's Glenn, they really should have had him offed for maximum shock value last night, when his fake death earlier this season is fresh on the mind. Coming back in 7 months to him being dead robs it of drama and will seem very anticlimactic. I think Maggie's a goner, but not via Lucille; probably whatever's happening with her baby. songstarliner when Rick said that to Maggie my wife and I both yelled "Oh, COME ON" at the TV because it was telegraphing her likely demise. As I said, any of the other characters would be anticlimactic to off; Sasha's been a complete nonentity this season, but Abraham has had alot of face time, and so his death would be pretty impactful. Was Redshirt from Alexandria even with them?
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Post by songstarliner on Apr 4, 2016 8:56:26 GMT -5
pairesta yes, I think he was there. He made a big fuss about coming along in the rv even though Rick told him to stay and help protect the town. Good decision, guy whose name I never learned! Also, I love how Father Sergeant Carter went from sniveling coward to tough warrior seemingly without transition ..... unless of course I missed it because he's too boring to follow.
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Post by pairesta on Apr 4, 2016 9:24:56 GMT -5
Wait, which Alexandria dude are we talking about? Aaron, the guy who found them last season, or Former Alexandria leader's son, the guy Rosita was hooking up with? Confession: I had, let's say, more than a glass of wine in me, so some of the details are hazy, but I know they were both in it and Aaron was tied up. But he's definitely in the "really anticlimactic if killed" list.
Father Sgt. Carver presumably went to hardened soldier during the 6 week break between the first and second episodes of this half of the season.
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Apr 4, 2016 22:17:31 GMT -5
Oh my gaawd, so much talking. Just shut up and beat someone up with that bat already!
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Post by songstarliner on Apr 4, 2016 22:41:34 GMT -5
When I said that I didn't care I lied: if it's Eugene OR Abraham, I'll be sad because I love them both. But I can't argue with your logic pairesta - Abraham has definitely been getting some quality character development this season, so alas: he may be a goner. But whyyyyy??
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Apr 5, 2016 16:19:16 GMT -5
I just wonder how Negan amassed such a large talented and loyal following if his introduction to every new group is to terrorise them into submission and kill some of their members as a calling card.
Or how it makes sense for him to only kill one of Rick's group after all the death he inflicted on them.
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Apr 5, 2016 16:28:04 GMT -5
I just wonder how Negan amassed such a large talented and loyal following if his introduction to every new group is to terrorise them into submission and kill some of their members as a calling card. Or how it makes sense for him to only kill one of Rick's group after all the death he inflicted on them. He isn't killing, just beating them to near death, so that they can still work for him.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Apr 5, 2016 17:11:18 GMT -5
He definitely kills one. This was introduced to us as Negan's policy when we first met a group of his guys (and before Darryl blew them up with a rocket launcher.)
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Apr 5, 2016 18:19:08 GMT -5
oh. Man, I have forgotten so much of what has happened on this show, but no desire to go back and rewatch.
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