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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 27, 2024 15:57:17 GMT -5
. OMG, that original staging of "Les Mis" had a phenomenal use of the turntable stage, as they could spin around the giant barricade and let you watch both sides of it. I've seen "Miss Saigon" use it (though the phenomenal staging of the evacuation scene in that show uses quite a LOT of stage trickery). "Phantom of the Opera" uses one.
We went to a lot of Broadway stuff by getting last minute cheapo tickets, although my mom and sibs went to way more shows than I did. We also ended up with a lot of soundtracks on constant repeat at home. I'll still randomly have snippets of ' think of me' and ' music of the night' floating through my mind, but Les Mis is the only one I really loved, and the only show I saw multiple times. But the turntable stage in that and Miss Saigon were both amazing, although I feel like MS doesn't hold up as well. This has nothing to do with the MCU, and I haven't seen the Rogers musical, but ugh! Les Mis was just so great. Oh, the musical version of "Les Mis" is incredible. Even in the current staging which is not so huge as the original. I don't think the current one uses the turntable stage. The music in that show is wonderful, and the way they depict the characters is great. (The Hollywood movie version of it is terrible. Just freaking terrible.) There's a 10th anniversary double cd of it that has a fantastic group of singers.
"Miss Saigon" isn't as good as that show. But, if you've not seen a version of it with Lea Salonga then you should. She's phenomenal in it. (I think there is a Philippines performance of it with her in it on YouTube?) In the original staging, the helicopter evacuation scene was jaw-dropping. I tried to find that on YouTube, but all I could see were newer versions of it which are on smaller stages and aren't nearly as dynamically staged. In the original, they could use the turntable stage and the way the security gates could swing around to essentially flip the POV of the scene back and forth as the scene goes on. So sometimes you are viewing the Vietnamese on the audience side of the gates and sometimes you are seeing the US soldiers on the audience side. They could do some FAST changes of that for incredible dramatic effect. I don't find the newer staging to be nearly as dynamic, though I know they try to make up for it by using a digitally projected helicopter which moves more like a real helicopter would.
"Hamilton" by comparison does not have anything as flashy as the staging in those two shows. Nor something like "Phantom of the Opera" which is a show my mother loves, though I do not. "Hamilton" uses its double rotating stage to incredible effect, though, allowing them to do seamless transitions from one song to another, by simply rotating characters and set pieces to the other side of the stage, and having the actors just carry stuff off stage with them. It is amazing how fast a show can move when they need zero time to make set changes. (Though, I did see "Miss Saigon" use their turntable stage for a similar effect.)
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Post by Celebith on Feb 28, 2024 10:43:09 GMT -5
lyrics by Jordan Peterson, Christopher Lennertz and Alex Karukas.
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Post by Celebith on Feb 28, 2024 10:54:23 GMT -5
We went to a lot of Broadway stuff by getting last minute cheapo tickets, although my mom and sibs went to way more shows than I did. We also ended up with a lot of soundtracks on constant repeat at home. I'll still randomly have snippets of ' think of me' and ' music of the night' floating through my mind, but Les Mis is the only one I really loved, and the only show I saw multiple times. But the turntable stage in that and Miss Saigon were both amazing, although I feel like MS doesn't hold up as well. This has nothing to do with the MCU, and I haven't seen the Rogers musical, but ugh! Les Mis was just so great. Oh, the musical version of "Les Mis" is incredible. Even in the current staging which is not so huge as the original. I don't think the current one uses the turntable stage. The music in that show is wonderful, and the way they depict the characters is great. (The Hollywood movie version of it is terrible. Just freaking terrible.) There's a 10th anniversary double cd of it that has a fantastic group of singers.
"Miss Saigon" isn't as good as that show. But, if you've not seen a version of it with Lea Salonga then you should. She's phenomenal in it. (I think there is a Philippines performance of it with her in it on YouTube?) In the original staging, the helicopter evacuation scene was jaw-dropping. I used to bring friends from NC up to NYC when I was stationed in Fayetteville, and we had long weekends, and usually, we'd go to broadway shows and do other 'only in NY' types of things. We saw Miss Saigon during it's opening run, with Salonga, maybe in '92? The helicopter bit was the main thing people commented on, but as you said, the whole staging was impressive. I don't remember any of the music, but, to be fair, by then I'd moved from home and didn't have showtunes playing most of the day, and wasn't home at all when my family had it in heavy rotation. I have the complete symphonic recording of Les Mis on 3 CDs, somewhere, and burned to a few hard drives. I haven't watched any film versions, although it did inspire me to read the whole 1400ish page unedited book, and go back and re-read the better parts. |
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Feb 29, 2024 11:29:37 GMT -5
After all the arguing over Rogers: The Musical, I went back and watched it all (well, it's on my second monitor, so I didn't see every second, but I heard all of it). I'm no musical expert; I've watched Hamilton once.
I think what ganews is referring to is the set bits being wheeled away from behind Fury/Rogers in the hospital room scene - it does briefly look like the set is rotating, but it's just the camera angle.
It all seemed like pretty standard musical fare to me, I didn't hear anything Hamilton-reminiscent. But again, I'm no musical expert.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Feb 29, 2024 14:59:38 GMT -5
My suspicion is that the people who thought it was influenced by Hamilton are people like me for whom Hamilton is the only musical they've seen that's less than forty years old. It reminded me of Hamilton but I think that's just because it looks more to me like Hamilton than the second-most-recent Broadway musical I've seen, which was Cats in 1986.
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Post by Jimmy James on Mar 1, 2024 9:51:26 GMT -5
My suspicion is that the people who thought it was influenced by Hamilton are people like me for whom Hamilton is the only musical they've seen that's less than forty years old. It reminded me of Hamilton but I think that's just because it looks more to me like Hamilton than the second-most-recent Broadway musical I've seen, which was Cats in 1986.  |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 3, 2024 0:56:33 GMT -5
My suspicion is that the people who thought it was influenced by Hamilton are people like me for whom Hamilton is the only musical they've seen that's less than forty years old. It reminded me of Hamilton but I think that's just because it looks more to me like Hamilton than the second-most-recent Broadway musical I've seen, which was Cats in 1986. I laughed pretty hard thinking about what someone would think about musical theater if they'd only ever seen "Hamilton" and "Cats". |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 3, 2024 1:02:05 GMT -5
After all the arguing over Rogers: The Musical, I went back and watched it all (well, it's on my second monitor, so I didn't see every second, but I heard all of it). I'm no musical expert; I've watched Hamilton once. I think what ganews is referring to is the set bits being wheeled away from behind Fury/Rogers in the hospital room scene - it does briefly look like the set is rotating, but it's just the camera angle. It all seemed like pretty standard musical fare to me, I didn't hear anything Hamilton-reminiscent. But again, I'm no musical expert. Yeah, I watched that Fury/Rogers scene. The stage isn't rotating there.
The show a few times puts down some crazy circular rotating lights near the front of the stage. That might give the illusion of stage movement. But the stage in that show never moves.
It IS all standard musical fare. I'd almost call it throwback musical fare. The style in that show is very old. Much older than LMM's shows, older than Jonathan Larson's "Rent" score, older than ALW's musicals like "Cats" and "Phantom of the Opera", older than "Les Mis". That style was what was popular back when Sondheim was becoming big. His scores were meant to be a response to that style.
Sorry, for turning this into a musical theater thread. You may return to your Marvel discussion now.
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Post by ganews on Mar 3, 2024 8:22:23 GMT -5
The Marvels had its flaws, but I did have a good laugh at the "Memory" cue during the Flerken scene.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Mar 3, 2024 12:52:27 GMT -5
My suspicion is that the people who thought it was influenced by Hamilton are people like me for whom Hamilton is the only musical they've seen that's less than forty years old. It reminded me of Hamilton but I think that's just because it looks more to me like Hamilton than the second-most-recent Broadway musical I've seen, which was Cats in 1986. I laughed pretty hard thinking about what someone would think about musical theater if they'd only ever seen "Hamilton" and "Cats". I also saw one of Yul Brynner's last tours in The King and I, but I was very young at the time. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Apr 22, 2024 11:04:16 GMT -5
This looks fucking GREAT! I don't want to see any more trailers for it either, don't give away any more of the story than this!
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