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Post by Pear on Apr 26, 2015 22:08:55 GMT -5
That was a phenomenal episode of Mad Men. Plus, Jared Harris did a fantastic job; so many beautiful shots! How about that transition from the meeting table to the restaurant?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 22:38:34 GMT -5
That was a phenomenal episode of Mad Men. Plus, Jared Harris did a fantastic job; so many beautiful shots! How about that transition from the meeting table to the restaurant? Agreed. Last week was good, but this week was great. |
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Post by Lady Bones on Apr 26, 2015 23:20:31 GMT -5
MY EMOTIONS
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Post by Carade on Apr 27, 2015 2:54:16 GMT -5
It's been said before but I'll say it again, Teti's nailing it with the reviews. His recap of "Time and Life" picked up on loads of things that I didn't notice.
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Post by jerkassimo on Apr 27, 2015 8:14:22 GMT -5
It's been said before but I'll say it again, Teti's nailing it with the reviews. His recap of "Time and Life" picked up on loads of things that I didn't notice. This might have been his best review yet. When is the last time you've seen wordplay like this: "Now, as Don feels the sun setting on his creative empire, he has the urge to go West again, chasing the daylight." in a piece of TV criticism? I guess at this point it isn't even criticism anymore, more like an analysis. |
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Post by pairesta on Apr 28, 2015 8:39:57 GMT -5
Ugh, so both Lou and Cutler get to ride off into the sunset happy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 23:28:10 GMT -5
I felt like it was a return to form. Just a lot of interesting scenes.
I'm kinda dumb so I didn't really "get" whether or not they succeeded or not.
The stories are beginning to close up, but I felt an underrated moment was Roger kissing Don and saying something supportive. Don't pretty much back in the rut he was in season 4. Next week looks like it's gonna be even more of a dramatic bummer.
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Post by pairesta on Apr 29, 2015 7:03:31 GMT -5
I felt like it was a return to form. Just a lot of interesting scenes. I'm kinda dumb so I didn't really "get" whether or not they succeeded or not. The stories are beginning to close up, but I felt an underrated moment was Roger kissing Don and saying something supportive. Don't pretty much back in the rut he was in season 4. Next week looks like it's gonna be even more of a dramatic bummer. When Roger kissed Don I asked my wife if THIS was the last episode. I'm not sure what to think about where things ended with the partners at the end. I'd imagine Pete's happy. Joan clearly is not. Roger and Don are probably happy with the money but not losing their identities in the process. That's probably what will bring Don to the end of the series. |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 1, 2015 15:07:53 GMT -5
Tatsunoko Productions and the Massacre of Glencoe are two things I literally never expected to get referenced on Mad Men, and they were both hilarious (especially the latter.)
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Post by Carade on May 3, 2015 21:24:28 GMT -5
I hope Joan burns this place down to the ground.
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Post by Carade on May 3, 2015 21:35:17 GMT -5
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Post by Carade on May 3, 2015 22:03:05 GMT -5
Goddamn, Peggy walking into McCann with those sunglasses, that cigarette, and the octopus painting. She's got swag for days |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:55:13 GMT -5
Now I'm terrified that Roger will jump.
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Post by Powerthirteen on May 4, 2015 10:29:59 GMT -5
Goddamn, Peggy walking into McCann with those sunglasses, that cigarette, and the octopus painting. She's got swag for days Walk into McCann like "What up?"  "I got a big ocktopus." |
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Post by Carade on May 5, 2015 1:22:53 GMT -5
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Post by pairesta on May 5, 2015 5:46:50 GMT -5
It's so nice to see Joan and Don on good terms again.
Every person Joan met at McCann was progressively more loathsome. Ugh, ugh, ugh. Is this the last we see of her?
While it was nice to see Coop again, I didn't really like that sequence; it seemed too transparently about explaining what was going on to the viewer.
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Post by pairesta on May 5, 2015 8:51:25 GMT -5
So as I've said, where things are at now on the show is hitting a nerve with me, particularly as they go through going from a small boutique company to being swallowed up by a corporate monolith. This episode in particular really got under my skin and I had wall-to-wall stress dreams after watching the episode last night. All of them were very vividly about the show, to the point where this morning I had to go back over the plot of the episode with my wife to make sure I wasn't confusing it with my dream.
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Post by eldan on May 6, 2015 12:02:06 GMT -5
So as I've said, where things are at now on the show is hitting a nerve with me, particularly as they go through going from a small boutique company to being swallowed up by a corporate monolith. This episode in particular really got under my skin and I had wall-to-wall stress dreams after watching the episode last night. All of them were very vividly about the show, to the point where this morning I had to go back over the plot of the episode with my wife to make sure I wasn't confusing it with my dream. Yeah, with everything that's been going on with me the past few months, the past few weeks of this show have been really upsetting me at a really deep level. I'm still loving it, but I didn't expect it to hit me the way it has. |
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Post by pairesta on May 6, 2015 14:32:17 GMT -5
So as I've said, where things are at now on the show is hitting a nerve with me, particularly as they go through going from a small boutique company to being swallowed up by a corporate monolith. This episode in particular really got under my skin and I had wall-to-wall stress dreams after watching the episode last night. All of them were very vividly about the show, to the point where this morning I had to go back over the plot of the episode with my wife to make sure I wasn't confusing it with my dream. Yeah, with everything that's been going on with me the past few months, the past few weeks of this show have been really upsetting me at a really deep level. I'm still loving it, but I didn't expect it to hit me the way it has. Your situation sounds alot more stressful than mine. Sympathies and I hope things turn around for you soon. I've been there. They do. |
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Post by eldan on May 8, 2015 22:34:27 GMT -5
Thanks! But, I'm afraid I made it sound worse than it is. I got fired at the end of February essentially because I'd been with the company for almost 8 years and most people leave after 2-3 years, so I was getting paid way more than most people and they basically didn't want to pay me anymore. I won't go into specifics but I looked the other way on a LOT of really unethical stuff and essentially I was fired for my loyalty, and even worse, fired by people who I thought were really close friends of mine who had my back no matter what. It sucks, but it's not the worst thing that's ever happened to anyone.
That said, a show that's increasingly about corporate America being soul-crushing is hitting a little harder than it would have 3 months ago.
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Post by Carade on May 10, 2015 21:15:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 21:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by Powerthirteen on May 11, 2015 0:08:08 GMT -5
Happy Mothers' Day, Mad Men fans of America. After this episode, I went out and sat on the porch for an hour without saying a word.
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Post by pairesta on May 12, 2015 6:35:48 GMT -5
Oh man I hope Kiernan Shipka has great things ahead of her for the acting she put on in this episode.
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Post by Carade on May 17, 2015 22:18:40 GMT -5
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Post by Pear on May 17, 2015 22:50:21 GMT -5
I refuse to believe he created the ad.
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Post by Carade on May 17, 2015 23:27:49 GMT -5
I really, REALLY like this guy's interpretation.
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Post by Pear on May 17, 2015 23:46:45 GMT -5
I really, REALLY like this guy's interpretation. I don't want to agree with this.  Yes, the "Ding" and the girl with the ribbons are pretty big hints that he did make the ad, but I still want to believe that he found exactly what the ad was trying to convey, but found it for real within himself. And thus, a contrast between the fake and saccharine of the ad versus finding happiness in real life, and both a cynical and optimistic view of the ending. If he did make the ad, I think the big question the finale was asking was whether or not happiness is "legitimate" if achieved through this consumerism lens. I think the big point in the end is that "happiness is a moment before you need more happiness." No, Don is not going to be in this state permanently, whether it be a state of finding happiness outside of work or happiness in his work, but what matters is that he finds happiness in this moment. |
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on May 17, 2015 23:51:45 GMT -5
I refuse to believe he created the ad. I'm with you. I don't get why everyone on the internet believes Don created the ad. I get why they ASSUME it, sure. Don closes his eyes, Don smiles, boom, Coke ad. Did Don's smile mean he created the ad? But I just don't believe it. This whole season was about him leaving behind advertising, McCann, his old identity, his sins, his self-hatred...and then he'd walk right back into all of that? Into the self-loathing? Besides...what if Peggy and Stan came up with the Coke ad? But the ribbon girl is probably conclusive proof that the show has Don creating the ad. So I'll give up my theory if I need to. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 0:13:20 GMT -5
Obviously it's open to interpretation, and deliberately so. Ribbon girl? Eh, probably many many young women braided their hair that way - that's why it showed up in an ad for as ubiquitous a product as Coca-Cola. You see Peggy furiously typing away, with Stan there to support her - there's no reason to assume it was Don's work over theirs. But that's the beauty of it, yeah? Leaving things open and letting them go, things left to personal interpretation. Connecting emotionally with an audience, involving them in the outcome. Sorry for the sentence fragments, just trying to get it down. I'm satisfied - it felt like an ending that works.
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Yes, the "Ding" and the girl with the ribbons are pretty big hints that he did make the ad, but I still want to believe that he found exactly what the ad was trying to convey, but found it for real within himself. And thus, a contrast between the fake and saccharine of the ad versus finding happiness in real life, and both a cynical and optimistic view of the ending. 