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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Sept 9, 2015 4:59:06 GMT -5
The previously linked trailer.So the first episode was... not terrible. Just like last year's An Bronntanas, TG4, the Irish language channel, delivers another Ambitious Drama that'd really like to look like serious dramas from Elsewhere. But while An Bronntanas modelled itself on the European tradition of gritty crime dramas - particularly your Nordic Noirs from Scandinavia - An Klondike looks ... West. It'd like to be an Irish Western; perhaps even a Deadwood. It's not a Deadwood - and at a mere four episodes, is unlikely to become one - but man, it wished it was. To recap: It's in English and Irish, primarily about Irish immigrants coming to the Klondike to pan for gold in the 19th century - mostly set around the fictional town in Dominion Creek, which is a bit like a low-rent Deadwood. (It's also filmed in the West of Ireland, thus trying rather unconvincingly to let the squat hills of Connemara fill in for the vast expanse of the Yukon, but thankfully it doesn't dwell on this much.) Set as it is in America, the Irish language becomes a kind of cant - something spoken between members of the Connelly family who drive most of the action ( three brothers, they got brothers to spare these ones) as well as the many Irish who seem to be virtually everyone in Dominion Creek who isn't rich and Englishy. Like this guy. The Mountie called Steele. Not the most convincing moustache, but you workw with the budget you have, not the budget you want.It's the cause of the show's best line - Dominion Creek's lone Native American rolls his eyes and ruefully says "That language. You're making that up." This said it probably dwells on it a little much, but for a TG4 production that's to be expected. So basically we get a lot of poor working stiffs hacking at rocks and getting conned out of everything they own by savvy scammers and saloon owners, and also some kinda plot about a special claim with a secret Indian treasure map. It has its moments - figuring out for yourself a scam before the luckless drunken fool does is a little fun - but it also has elements that raise questions it probably doesn't want explored, like why the hell the saloon owner knows by name the guy who the claim originated with and apparently trusted his judgement (having only heard of this claim from the fellow who stole it.) All in all, it's a pretty solid first episode for a decidedly unusual and ambitious series, but not really something I'd recommend at this point. Whether it'll pan out, well, there's three episodes to go, I'll check in.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 9, 2015 14:16:23 GMT -5
I assume it's set in Canada, since it's about the Klondike gold rush. Because the whole Deadwood thing was more for the US side of the border. The American response to the gold rush was to let the prospectors figure things out themselves, which basically meant Skagway, Alaska turned into Mogadishu with worse plumbing, whereas the Canadian response was to send 100 cops armed with machine guns to shoot anyone trying to smuggle whiskey past customs. As you might guess, things were more orderly and peaceful on the Yukon side.
Also, the one-third of that trailer that I watched mostly reminded me of this Heritage Minute video:
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Sept 9, 2015 14:20:47 GMT -5
I assume it's set in Canada, since it's about the Klondike gold rush. Because the whole Deadwood thing was more for the US side of the border. That's correct. To be clear, the comparison is to the HBO series Deadwood, not the historical town. (The pictured mustachioed man is a Mountie, as stereotypically Canadian as they come.) There is however one scene set in Montana.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 9, 2015 14:25:12 GMT -5
I assume it's set in Canada, since it's about the Klondike gold rush. Because the whole Deadwood thing was more for the US side of the border. That's correct. To be clear, the comparison is to the HBO series Deadwood, not the historical town. (The pictured mustachioed man is a Mountie, as stereotypically Canadian as they come.) There is however one scene set in Montana. That is presumably Sam Steele, the historical figure from that video I posted. If something's set during the Klondike gold rush he usually ends up in the story somewhere. And I'm not sure if I've ever seen a picture of a clean-shaven Mountie from that time period.
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 9, 2015 15:14:32 GMT -5
That is indeed some not at all Yukon looking scenery...
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Sept 9, 2015 15:21:42 GMT -5
sarapen Did the historical Steele have an Irish mistress and saloon singer because that's an important plot point thus far.
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 9, 2015 15:31:48 GMT -5
I didn't even make the connection that mustache is so bad. He's definitely an interesting figure and probably one of the key reasons the Mounties still actually exist today.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 9, 2015 15:52:44 GMT -5
sarapen Did the historical Steele have an Irish mistress and saloon singer because that's an important plot point thus far. I'm not 100% but I don't think so. The impression I get of him is that he was born with a British flag pole up his ass and would have arrested his own brother for spitting on the sidewalk. You know, the stereotypical Victorian frontiersman, like a Flashman who was as he seemed.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 9, 2015 15:54:43 GMT -5
That is indeed some not at all Yukon looking scenery... It's like how southern Italy always seems to overcast on The Borgias.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Sept 9, 2015 15:59:26 GMT -5
sarapen Besides the Irish mistress that's exactly how he's been portrayed thus far; hates the Irish, bit of a hard hat. Not as much of an outright villain as J.J. Hopkins, the Dominion Creek saloon owner, though.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 9, 2015 16:16:57 GMT -5
sarapen Besides the Irish mistress that's exactly how he's been portrayed thus far; hates the Irish, bit of a hard hat. Not as much of an outright villain as J.J. Hopkins, the Dominion Creek saloon owner, though. I was looking him up just now and came across this sentence: Didn't know he was in the Boer War either. Apparently he thought the "kaffirs" were a naturally servile race and probably covered up an incident where some of his men extrajudicially killed a few Boers. So even more of a Victorian imperial hero than I thought.
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