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Post by Sanziana on Nov 10, 2015 15:01:06 GMT -5
Seeing the sacrificial goat getting led through the background has been one of the episode highlights for me every week. I'm actually a little disappointed to get an explanation for it. That was a disappointment for me as well. I really enjoyed not knowing what that whole thing was about, just one of those supremely weird little moments The Leftovers spacialises in. It reminded me also of the fish scene in Snowpiercer.I finally managed to watch these past 2 episodes, and they were so great. The Reverend episode became instantly my favourite episode of this show. The intro was just the cruelest thing, and I don't know what is it with this show and the cheery songs (the truth is combining happy songs and deeply disturbing scenes help tremendously in establishing the unhinged and on the verge world this is). Christopher Eccleston has a knack for playing bull-headed desperation, and the earnestness he projects as Matt made the whole pregnant part even more creepier. (I guess in this show you can't be sure what crazy depths every character hides.) And I don't get at all why he got up on that thing. As penance? To help the people there because he has this desire to do good? What for? The match between Nora and Erika was outstanding. I loved Erika's supernatural story. Kevin was relegated to the sidelines, and that's very fine by me, he finally did something right and told Nora that he's going crazy. I missed Ann Dowd, though. I'm not that happy that the print business is still in play, and now the teenagers fall in love, and I really would like this show to stay out of kids-parents love drama. Those two ladies are at each other's throats now, that will be fun, please stay on that show. |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 10, 2015 15:15:05 GMT -5
Between Leftovers and American Crime, 2015 is the year of breathtakingly intense Regina King TV performances. Seeing the sacrificial goat getting led through the background has been one of the episode highlights for me every week. I'm actually a little disappointed to get an explanation for it. That was a disappointment for me as well. Ah, but we did and we didn't, didn't we. We learned why the town tolerated, even encouraged, his goat-killing habits, and perhaps why he's made it into such a continual passtime. But why the hell did he ritually kill a goat on the day of the Departure?Jamison's focus episodes have become highlights for the show. I called the one in season one 'a Protestant Calvary' and I stand by that. There's an emotional intensity to them - a desire to be a good person (and in his case, a good Christian) in a world that seems hostile and alienating to his desires, that is depressing and deeply relatable. (That we follow that up with the knowledge he's got his own little not-quite congregation now was a relief, honestly.) |
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Post by Sanziana on Nov 10, 2015 15:45:07 GMT -5
Douay-Rheims-Challoner A Protestant Calvary is a great way to put it. That same stoicism and dignity even in the face of an angry world, and also the same feeling of obsolescence. His episodes are really the best, and Christopher Eccleston brings that emotional intensity you mention, and I'm so excited to find out how his flock of misfits will blossom. As far as the goat goes, alas, I believe we'll never know.
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Post by ganews on Nov 10, 2015 17:47:32 GMT -5
We learned why the town tolerated, even encouraged, his goat-killing habits, and perhaps why he's made it into such a continual passtime. But why the hell did he ritually kill a goat on the day of the Departure?It wouldn't have been a ritual on the day of the departure. He's just a guy who raises and occasionally has to slaughter goats, and that's how you do it, same as a pig. Can you back up my speculation, Floyd Diabolical Barber? |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 10, 2015 18:02:00 GMT -5
ganews Why was he arrested for it if it was normal? It seems he must have done it in a public place, but I forget if that exactly was said.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Nov 10, 2015 20:22:07 GMT -5
We learned why the town tolerated, even encouraged, his goat-killing habits, and perhaps why he's made it into such a continual passtime. But why the hell did he ritually kill a goat on the day of the Departure?It wouldn't have been a ritual on the day of the departure. He's just a guy who raises and occasionally has to slaughter goats, and that's how you do it, same as a pig. Can you back up my speculation, Floyd Diabolical Barber? I haven't been watching "The Leftovers" yet so I don't know anything about the character in question. I pretty much gave up TV over the summer, and am now wallowing in my new Netflix account. Is "The Departed on Netflix? I don't even know. Besides the shows I knew I wanted to see, I have discovered such gems as Garfunkle and Oats, Better off Ted, and Danger 5. So much to catch up on. As for slaughtering goats, pigs, or whatever, the basics are pretty much the same. My best advice is make sure your knife is really sharp. And I will say that after the initial BBQ, they do make very tasty leftovers. |
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Post by ganews on Nov 15, 2015 22:38:58 GMT -5
The Nora and Matt episodes are great TV. The Kevin episodes are wacky shock value that I enjoy as long as they're only used sparingly.
Props to the show for embracing its silliness, showing a preview with the only vocalizations, "What's next?" and "Oh, shit." Major props for lampshading the Magical Black Man. That would have been the funniest moment of the episode if the grandfather hadn't shot himself. (Seriously: when Matt goes through trials, I think, "how terrible". When Kevin goes through trials, I think, "how ridiculous".)
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 15, 2015 22:50:32 GMT -5
I do have to wonder how Kevin is gonna get out of THIS onenn.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 23:06:51 GMT -5
Maybe Magical Black Manhood skips a generation?
Honestly, I'd be fine if Matt and Kevin both went to a field to stare at the flowers, if it let us get back to Nora (and Erika, hopefully).
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Post by Sanziana on Nov 20, 2015 11:18:05 GMT -5
I liked this episode well enough, mainly because it was so funny. The way Ann Dowd delivers "Say it was for sex" line, and the escalating dramatic music when she tells that bullshit story made guffaw. For all its silliness though, I think the episode did a good job on bringing Kevin's storyline down to earth again with that ending. And I found the religious kid nonchalantly dragging Kevin out of the house to be the creepiest moment of this show. He seemed so innocent and reasonably sane. I guess, as I said before, you can't be sure what insanity every character hides on this show.
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Post by ganews on Nov 22, 2015 22:19:20 GMT -5
Seriously good job by the show tonight. That was an excellent dissection of Patty's character.
Ha, Kevin is just so consistently dumb.
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Post by ganews on Nov 24, 2015 7:27:28 GMT -5
Line of the night: "Did you put Neosporin on it?"
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 24, 2015 8:15:52 GMT -5
I saw someone compare the most recent episode to the Sopranos, and come to think of it Tony Sopprano did have a near death experience involving hallucinating he was stuck in a weird hotel. Any worries that the show dipping more into magical realism might hurt it were assuaged a bit here - it was weird and upsetting and really grounded in the emotions of the characters.
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Post by Sanziana on Nov 24, 2015 14:40:18 GMT -5
I saw someone compare the most recent episode to the Sopranos, and come to think of it Tony Sopprano did have a near death experience involving hallucinating he was stuck in a weird hotel. Any worries that the show dipping more into magical realism might hurt it were assuaged a bit here - it was weird and upsetting and really grounded in the emotions of the characters. It was so delightfully strange and poignant, and so elegiac. I loved this episode so, so much, but then I have an affinity for magical realism and dreamlike worlds. The music was just perfect too, highlighting the more emotionally charged moments, never feeling cumbersome in any way. I read some say it's gone into Lost territory and I fail to see how that's a bad thing, but then I loved the crazy unexplained mysteries most in that show. I don't remember The Sopranos episode, though. Will have to search for it. |
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Post by ganews on Nov 29, 2015 22:11:40 GMT -5
Well, I suppose the splinter group from the Guilty Remnant being behind the girls' disappearance is an explanation. It gives the girls themselves zero motivation, really, other than being disaffected, shit-stirring adolescents - hey, that's the same motivation as the rest of the GR! Nice move, The Leftovers.
I certainly wasn't thrilled to see the return of Season 1's dour atmosphere. At least Meg has instituted some wise changes, like ignoring the silence commandment. (I think the whole notpad communication system is a troll on people who watch the show on handheld devices.) Too bad Meg doesn't have anything much to explain her behavior, now that Patty's full mind has been explored.
Biggest regret: Meg talks, and that means she missed the opportunity to say to the long-haired kid who stumbled on the compound, "You should be used to being stoned."
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 30, 2015 0:24:47 GMT -5
Am I just imagining it, or has the theme been used a lot less in the last two episodes? It made sense to me in the last one since that took place in a kind of alternate reality from the rest of the show. But it only made one kind of vague appearance in this episode, so now I'm wondering if that's been done on purpose.
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Post by odnetnin on Dec 1, 2015 5:41:20 GMT -5
Did Liv Tyler change her voice into a creepy yet sensual monotone recently, or is that how she's always talked and I forgot because it's been a while? Also, finale next week!!
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 1, 2015 8:54:13 GMT -5
The grenade in a schoolbus was such a superbly upsetting sequence; I didn't just keep waiting for the explosion that didn't come I wasn't sure if it had happened or not until a few scenes later.
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Post by Sanziana on Dec 2, 2015 8:28:55 GMT -5
The grenade in a schoolbus was such a superbly upsetting sequence; I didn't just keep waiting for the explosion that didn't come I wasn't sure if it had happened or not until a few scenes later. Apparently Arwen went full psychopath. That was a horrific, punch to the gut scene. And her deranged smile just enhanced the dread. odnetnin She has always talked like that. In this she has a gleefully unhinged tinge to her voice, though. Giddy for the finale after such an amazing second season. They underutilized Nora though, unfortunately. |
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Post by ganews on Dec 2, 2015 12:25:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Sanziana, they somehow forgot their best character was Nora. I forgot to give the show extra credit for playing "White Lines" while Meg snorts in the bathroom out of camera-view. Playing it over the credits was too much, but what the heck, it's fun. |
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Post by Sanziana on Dec 2, 2015 12:34:10 GMT -5
ganews I was expecting some great scenes between Nora and Erika, but they failed on that front. That's the drawback of short seasons, you cannot do every character justice.
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Post by ganews on Dec 6, 2015 22:29:10 GMT -5
Well, this season was good for a larf. I appreciated the way it was structured, carefully meteing out answers and flashbacks. Even if it didn't answer anything, at least it closed a circle within the season itself.
Nice to see Nora back, even if her action is abbreviated. Smash that radio good!
Wow, where did they find the Keystone Kops for Miracle Natl. Park? The two most obvious methods of breaking in (blowing the bridge or rushing the place), on the most obvious day (the departure anniversary), and no one had a contingency plan.
The two funniest moments from Kevin: back in death motel ("Motherfucker!!") and being found not-dead ("Nope.").
Mary woke up; that's nice.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Dec 7, 2015 0:26:03 GMT -5
Alston calling that ending "relentlessly bleak" made me wonder if he was watching a completely different show from the one I'm watching.
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Post by odnetnin on Dec 7, 2015 3:18:31 GMT -5
Alston also had objectively wrong opinions about Community s6, so I wasn't too surprised. Seems like the more supernatural elements really don't work for him, and he lets that color his opinion of the rest of the episode.
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Post by ganews on Dec 7, 2015 7:52:15 GMT -5
Alston calling that ending "relentlessly bleak" made me wonder if he was watching a completely different show from the one I'm watching. I like the show, but the various times this year when I've read his review I've always wondered what he was watching. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Dec 7, 2015 8:15:42 GMT -5
Alston also had objectively wrong opinions about Community s6, so I wasn't too surprised. Seems like the more supernatural elements really don't work for him, and he lets that color his opinion of the rest of the episode. That's something that frustrates me as a skeptic, too. I also don't believe any supernatural thing exists in the real world, but that doesn't mean I can't suspend my disbelief for a show or that it bugs me when a show makes use of those storytelling elements. The Leftovers is based on an arguably supernatural premise...is he frustrated every single episode because of that? |
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Post by Sanziana on Dec 7, 2015 9:51:42 GMT -5
Is Kevin a cat or something? Because apparently he cannot die. Such an uplifting ending, quite suprising for this show, I admit it put a giant grin on my face. And the scene with Erika and Evie was just heartbreaking. I also found intriguing the scene with the baby and how people avoided hurting her while she was on the ground, they didn't do the same courtesy to Nora, though. It felt a bit protracted, but I guess that was the point. Nice to know Matt is not a creep, even Michael ended up not being quite the lunatic he seemed to be. Such a beautiful finale, and such lovely use of music.
Is it renewed yet? Just do it, HBO!
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