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Post by ganews on Oct 11, 2015 21:05:17 GMT -5
...because somehow, Joshua Alston is turning reviews in even later than Erik Adams in spite of have screeners for the first two episodes.
"Do you want to know about the eye? Most people ask." "No." Damn you, Damon Lindelof! More gratuitous unanswered questions! Look, everyone needs to get off Nora's back: she just paid $3 million for a house in the most noteworthy place in the world, meaning it's worth $300 million. When word gets out of an MIT study hypothesizing that the departure is based on geography, every house in town will be worth hundreds of millions. Nora could leak that info personally and keep warm burning money (well, keep the disappearing water thing quiet). |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Oct 11, 2015 23:00:30 GMT -5
Every time I watch an episode I feel like Homer watching Twin Peaks:
"Brilliant!...I have absolutely no idea what's going on."
But I like it.
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Post by kitchin on Oct 12, 2015 20:30:56 GMT -5
Look at me look at me! Andie McDowell married a male model! Yes, not fair.
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Post by kitchin on Oct 13, 2015 1:29:22 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed this is thread 4000 ?
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Post by Sanziana on Oct 13, 2015 5:44:45 GMT -5
I liked this second episode much better that the first; it's like the writers challenge themselves to up the surreal factor every episode (the woman with the eye-patch scene was the best). And I'm really glad Ann Dowd and Christopher Eccleston are still around; he has a habit of leaving shows early. Really excited for the rest of the season.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 13, 2015 8:58:36 GMT -5
Sanziana Fortitude has the best Eccleston departure, I'll give it that. I liked both episodes a fair bit, although Kevin is becoming a little, well, Lostjackish (that should be a word.) The utter bizarreness of Miracle's customs was certainly a highlight this week - the first episode only gradually let us in on how unusual Miracle was, the outsider approach foregrounds it here. Has anyone noticed this is thread 4000 ? Now if it was thread 4400, that'd be weird. Because, you know, the TV show about 4400 people returning after a mysterious disappearance.
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Post by Sanziana on Oct 13, 2015 12:55:58 GMT -5
Sanziana Fortitude has the best Eccleston departure, I'll give it that. I liked both episodes a fair bit, although Kevin is becoming a little, well, Lostjackish (that should be a word.) The utter bizarreness of Miracle's customs was certainly a highlight this week - the first episode only gradually let us in on how unusual Miracle was, the outsider approach foregrounds it here. I was thinking of of Doctor Who, but, yeah, the Fortitude exit came out of nowhere. I hope he won't become the new Sean Bean. I had to google who Kevin was, that's how much he registers to my mind (I'm not good with character names at all). Jack 2.0 right down to the angst and the muscle mass. The disappearance of the river was quite a wonderful development, but unfortunately they won't explain it. Some mysteries they should try to. |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 13, 2015 13:06:04 GMT -5
Sanziana I also had to go to Wikipedia because I didn't want to just say 'Justin Theroux.' I'm pretty rusty on a lot of the first season stuff, I didn't even remember where the baby was from before the brother showed up. I'm ambivalent about the river disappearance. I'd be okay with the first disappearance being the only one, but we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 0:04:04 GMT -5
I enjoyed the first episode, but loved the second. I can't wait to see where this is going.
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Post by ganews on Oct 18, 2015 23:02:02 GMT -5
Hmm, that didn't do much for me. Frankly, I've never been a fan of Laurie. Her great loss revealed last season is that her zygote Departed? I rolled my eyes so hard at that I gave myself a headache. Now they are going to create some BS in the style of Wayne to try to give the rescuees hope, that won't end well.
Wow, HBO: your first time deploying a "Rape" warning along with "Nudity" and "Violence", and this is how you used it? Not that female-on-male rape never happens, but you waited until after this season's Game of Thrones? Optics, man.
The Guilty Remnant sucks and so do the people in it. The woman who wrecked the minivan was only in it two months - I guess it goes to show just how unstable these people were to begin with.
No wonder Liv Tyler rose to the head of the local chapter so fast: Laurie hit everyone else with her car.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 14:55:30 GMT -5
I just wrote 'I like Laurie a lot more when she talks', then erased it, because I'm not totally sure that's true. (And then I ended up retyping it anyway, because I'm a dumb-ass.) I wasn't as wild about the episode as a lot of people at AVC seem to be, but I think it was good enough to keep up the momentum of the so-far-significantly-better season 2.
And while I've always liked the idea of the Guilty Remnant, none of them (besides Patty, and her only rarely) has been anything but an anhedonic slap in the face when they come on screen. I guess that's kind of the point, but it's also kind of a shitty point when it keeps getting made over and over again. We'll see how much they figure in going forward. Obviously it's going to be more than 'not at all', but I'd be A-OK with 'very, very little.'
I'm glad they decided to attach a Rape warning, and while it certainly would've been good if they'd thought of it before or during GoT (any season, really), I certainly wouldn't want them to wait to use it until there's a male-on-female rape just because of optics.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 20, 2015 11:18:41 GMT -5
You know, in some ways, the Leftovers is like a cringe comedy. No, seriously: You know something humiliating and embarassing is about to coming, it's building up, and, as with cringe comedy, I have an enormous temptation to just hit pause and go do something else (I paused in the middle of a Peep Show episode once, and never actually came back to it.) The scene with Laurie pitching her book was uncomfortable in precisely this sort of way, but for reasons of intense dramatic agony, not comedy. I'm glad they decided to attach a Rape warning, and while it certainly would've been good if they'd thought of it before or during GoT (any season, really), I certainly wouldn't want them to wait to use it until there's a male-on-female rape just because of optics. I wouldn't be surprised if HBO only decided to add rape warnings after GoT this year; I very much doubt they waited around. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 11:43:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if HBO only decided to add rape warnings after GoT this year; I very much doubt they waited around. Oh, I think that's almost certainly the case, given the extent of the (justified) complaints about the show. If I wasn't clear, I was trying to say that I'm glad it wasn't a situation where they decide to add that warning after this past season of GoT, but then opt not to attach it to this Leftovers episode because of how it might look. Not that I don't understand how it might look like they're saying, 'Male-on-female rape, meh, whatever; but female-on-male rape? That we have to warn audiences about!', but ... I think it's better to risk looking bad rather than waiting around until doing the right thing also makes you look good. |
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Post by ganews on Oct 20, 2015 11:55:53 GMT -5
Now HBO CEO of Tits is calling the new Rape Intern to ask about every sex scene.
(That's a good thing.)
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Post by kitchin on Oct 25, 2015 22:00:01 GMT -5
Wow, season one is looking like crap compared to this. Flecks of gold now!
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Post by kitchin on Oct 25, 2015 22:02:00 GMT -5
Though I don't like ghost Ann Dowd a lot, she does help move the plot along.
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Post by ganews on Oct 26, 2015 7:11:40 GMT -5
First Eddie Winslow, now the guy in the store. How many Magical Black Men can one town support?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who dislikes the ghost.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Oct 26, 2015 7:24:30 GMT -5
First Eddie Winslow, now the guy in the store. How many Magical Black Men can one town support? I'm glad I'm not the only one who dislikes the ghost. Every town can make room for Mr. X! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 21:58:44 GMT -5
As long as they tell stories like the "She was taking a shit on him, Kevin" one, I'm all for more ghosts.
Not only because of that, but this is a much stronger show than it was in its first season.
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Post by Sanziana on Oct 28, 2015 12:40:06 GMT -5
I missed Laurie and her barely contained insanity this episode (not the son though, he can go away forever, he's so boring), but then again Nora was there to fill the delightfully crazy lady spot. Ann Dowd is so funny and I love her straight-talking, it's just so refreshing. One thing I don't like where it's going, the disappearance investigation and Kevin; I really don't want to see elements of a police procedural around here.
I also loved the brief scene with Nora in the woods; the mesmerising, surreal moment scored to Miserere Mei, Deus (such a gorgeous song). I always love these idiosyncratic little scenes.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 28, 2015 13:02:41 GMT -5
Ann Dowd has incredible chemistry with an actor who is trying very hard not to acknowledge her presence at all. More of that please. One thing I don't like where it's going, the disappearance investigation and Kevin; I really don't want to see elements of a police procedural around here. I feel like that's just going to be a repeat of Kevin's crushing emotional issues and need to be seen as a good person - trying to lie about not being there is gonna eat away at him, and John Murphy has not shown himself to be particularly civil dealing with people who are faking miracles; how he'd feel about a guy who was nearby when his daughter went poof can be imagined. But man, the despair, the bitterness, the loneliness and, slouching its way to be unborn, the hope (the Reverend's desperate insistence that Miracle matters because damn it for one night his wife talked to him.) This show's a beautifully harrowing experience like little else on TV (and is having a much better sophomore season than its spiritual French cousin, the Returned.) Reminds me a little of what I loved about Big Love's exploration of Americana and religosity, but a much more unhinged program. |
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Post by Sanziana on Oct 28, 2015 13:33:28 GMT -5
Douay-Rheims-Challoner Not only it's going to be a repeat of Kevin's issues, it's also going to be time wasted at the expense of other characters and better spent on other plot threads, like the Reverend clinging to the idea that his wife is still in there somewhere (Christopher Eccleston was given far too little to do so far), or Nora's slow descent into gaga land. I really hope they won't go down the rabbit hole with the whole prints and phone business. I didn't get around to watching the second season of The Returned, I'll get to it eventually, but it's so discouraging hearing it's not going so well. It's such a bummer.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 28, 2015 14:25:09 GMT -5
Sanziana I'm only two episodes in. It might pick up, but the new focus I'm ambivalent about. We'll see.
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Post by ganews on Nov 1, 2015 21:38:49 GMT -5
Last season the best episodes were centered on Nora and Matt. Matt was desperate, but not like this season. I almost can't take this.
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Post by ganews on Nov 2, 2015 22:44:47 GMT -5
I forgot Regina King's character is deaf. Certainly it's barely been mentioned or figured into the plot, so I guess that's why we needed the reminder. So, when John got shot and told Kevin to call his wife, how did she pick up/listen on the phone?
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 3, 2015 0:31:27 GMT -5
Last season the best episodes were centered on Nora and Matt. Matt was desperate, but not like this season. I almost can't take this. Agreed! It's been a long time since an episode of TV made me that anxious. |
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Post by kitchin on Nov 3, 2015 20:25:50 GMT -5
Wonder if getting that kid thrust at him will humanize John Murphy.
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Post by ganews on Nov 8, 2015 22:15:49 GMT -5
I suggest that was the best episode of the season, though perhaps just because I'm too weak to handle Matt's trials from last week. Because it was centered on Nora, who was great. Regina King was also super-great. In fact, I think the real reason this season is better than last is because it's centered not on Garvey but on Nora, the superior character.
Seeing the sacrificial goat getting led through the background has been one of the episode highlights for me every week. I'm actually a little disappointed to get an explanation for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 0:18:36 GMT -5
I want to trade bodies with Carrie Coon. Everything about her is so, so beautiful.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 9, 2015 1:03:54 GMT -5
I was laughing so hard at the Azrael/Lens reveal.
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