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Fargo
Oct 13, 2015 2:31:03 GMT -5
Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Oct 13, 2015 2:31:03 GMT -5
Well, that was different. The first season started with this big buildup as you got to know everything that's going on and then things escalate beyond what you expected. This starts with the bang, and it's still unclear what's going on in the first place.
Also, a lot of actors I grew up watching have gotten a lot older.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Oct 16, 2015 11:18:25 GMT -5
Loved so much about this: the flavour of 1978 was captured splendidly (loved the split-screen, the colour of the images), Jeffrey Donovan's clearly impersonating a Jaws-era Robert Shaw and I'm intrigued by the stories.
But let's talk about that UFO. The show is set in 1978, the year after Close Encounters of the Third Kind came out. And that was very much a Spielberg UFO, nothing like the canon of sightings of that time. Even the little following lights reflected on the road sign was a clear homage to CE3K.
I'm split between them either having more of this Fortean element in the show, or just having that sighting and nothing else like it whatsoever.
Either way... it opens the possibility that the show is not just in one Coen universe, but also that of The Man Who Wasn't There. Has anyone ever suggested there's a single Coenverse, like unto Tarentino? And is the show setting up one?
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Post by kitchin on Oct 18, 2015 6:46:10 GMT -5
Seems the UFO's were some kind of big thing in Minnesota in 1979. Wonder if they'll stretch the Nick Offerman conspiracy to the KC mob and President Harry Truman.
Robert Shaw in Jaws? How about the Shelly Duvall in the Shining look on Cristin Milioti? And Kirstin Dunst's picture postcard of "Hollywood Beach" where she wants to go? Googlegooglegoogle. It's in Florida!
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 20, 2015 11:22:14 GMT -5
Either way... it opens the possibility that the show is not just in one Coen universe, but also that of The Man Who Wasn't There. Has anyone ever suggested there's a single Coenverse, like unto Tarentino? And is the show setting up one? I think there's some suggestion that this season of Fargo is in continuity with the first season, but I believe Fargo is more about thematic links to the Coen Brothers films than continuity connections. They've said that Ronald Reagan will be part of this season, and it's hard to imagine why old Ronnie would have anything to do with some petty Midwestern crime gone bad... only, you know, sightings of aliens would be more the President's purview (and this was a President who liked to float the idea of the US and the Soviet Union uniting against a hypothetical alien threat; the Star Wars program, etc. etc.) and Nick Offermann's character is clearly a window into a kind of conspirational paranoiac way of thinking that would likely shadow the UFO plot. |
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Post by kitchin on Oct 21, 2015 0:20:21 GMT -5
Maybe the KC mob will help him like Truman. By the way there used to be some batsht conspiracy theories about Reagan and his first wife Jane Wyman and nazis or something.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 1:07:02 GMT -5
Either way... it opens the possibility that the show is not just in one Coen universe, but also that of The Man Who Wasn't There. Has anyone ever suggested there's a single Coenverse, like unto Tarentino? And is the show setting up one? I think there's some suggestion that this season of Fargo is in continuity with the first season, but I believe Fargo is more about thematic links to the Coen Brothers films than continuity connections. They've said that Ronald Reagan will be part of this season, and it's hard to imagine why old Ronnie would have anything to do with some petty Midwestern crime gone bad... only, you know, sightings of aliens would be more the President's purview (and this was a President who liked to float the idea of the US and the Soviet Union uniting against a hypothetical alien threat; the Star Wars program, etc. etc.) and Nick Offermann's character is clearly a window into a kind of conspirational paranoiac way of thinking that would likely shadow the UFO plot. some suggestion this season is in continuity with the first? There is no suggestion, it is. Patrick Wilson plays Lou, the grandpa from last season. His daughter Molly is the molly who was our main character. There is no suggestion about it. Also, the movie is in the same universe as the TV series. The money that Oliver platt's character found in season 1 to start the grocery store chain is the money that Steve buscemi buried in the movie. Noah Hawley has confirmed this. |
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Fargo
Oct 21, 2015 3:41:50 GMT -5
Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Oct 21, 2015 3:41:50 GMT -5
@matt1 Ah. Well I'd hoped it not connect directly to the movie, but there you go.
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Fargo
Oct 24, 2015 8:47:20 GMT -5
Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Oct 24, 2015 8:47:20 GMT -5
Looking at the ratings, I'm getting worried. 0.96 last week.
I went through this with Community, and then Hannibal, I can't do it again, guys!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:03:49 GMT -5
Looking at the ratings, I'm getting worried. 0.96 last week. I went through this with Community, and then Hannibal, I can't do it again, guys! as long as it is getting the critical buzz it is, it will be fine. Americans did similar in ratings but with about the same amount of reception(I would say a little less than Fargo) and it is still going. Hell, tyrant only does slightly better in ratings, but a whole lot worse in reception. It still got another season. Fargo will be fine. |
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 27, 2015 23:47:09 GMT -5
I like it. I like it very much, and that's a pleasant surprise, because last year I couldn't imagine how they were going to come up with a compelling second season. I confess that I love style almost as much as substance, but in this case I really feel like this has both. Of the shows I'm currently following as they air, this one is my favorite by leaps and bounds.
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Oct 28, 2015 1:23:39 GMT -5
Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Oct 28, 2015 1:23:39 GMT -5
A week late to this, but add meat grinder to the Coen canon of quirky instruments of death.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Nov 3, 2015 13:19:25 GMT -5
Hahnzee's 2 hours of lost time on the site of a UFO appearance.. nice.
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Post by kitchin on Nov 3, 2015 20:16:56 GMT -5
Hahnzee's 2 hours of lost time on the site of a UFO appearance.. nice. I'm still looking for a Harry S. Truman connection via the Missouri mob, the atomic age, J. Edgar Hoover dropping a broken headlight shard from a flying saucer, whatever. Maybe the "S" stands for "Spaceman." More likely we'll just get Reagan making an odd, alien-visiting side trip while campaigning up there, and Peggy figuring out her "best self" involves using Ed as a human shield when the saucer lights them up in front of the guns of the KC henchmen. I'm really hoping there's more to Peggy, but in the Coen-verse, I don't expect her to have a realistic plan to find a sack of money by a fence post in the snow and go to Hollywood, be it the Florida in the postcard or the California she mentioned. Just another victim of their universal mockery, so amenable to the upper Midwest, with its social leveling tendencies. Fargoland is the perfect place for Coen comedy. Leave the stratified New York and New England to Wes Anderson, along with old Europe and its Jacques Cousteau histrionics. That scene of Peggy and Ed was haunting, in their den listening to purple-clad Minnesota State Trooper Lou lay out their looming fate. Though once again, Peggy may prove prescient. So far her every move has been dumbly smart: covering up the accident until the mob cools off, pushing Ed to get out of a losing small business in the approaching 1980s economy, distracting Sheriff Ted Danson in the beauty shop with expert timing though in a flustered panic, getting Ed to evict State Trooper Lou just before Hanzee murders them all (?). She really is quite extraordinary. Adam Arkin is set to start hamming it up next week as the K.C. boss, the domed pate we saw in the first episode, says IMDB. The season culminates with him directing the last two episodes in December. |
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Fargo
Nov 3, 2015 20:21:46 GMT -5
Post by kitchin on Nov 3, 2015 20:21:46 GMT -5
A week late to this, but add meat grinder to the Coen canon of quirky instruments of death. And the too-tight parking space. |
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Post by songstarliner on Nov 9, 2015 22:42:47 GMT -5
Bruce Campbell as Ronald Reagan. That'll do, show. That'll do.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 10, 2015 1:12:12 GMT -5
Bruce Campbell as Ronald Reagan. That'll do, show. That'll do. "If you get the chance, ask him if it's true that Joan Crawford had crabs!" |
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Fargo
Nov 10, 2015 2:17:32 GMT -5
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 10, 2015 2:17:32 GMT -5
Holy fuck that was amazing.
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Fargo
Nov 11, 2015 11:26:30 GMT -5
Post by kitchin on Nov 11, 2015 11:26:30 GMT -5
I forgot the Corvair was rear-engine. I used to see one always parked in front a shop with the license plate "F NADER".
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Post by kitchin on Nov 11, 2015 11:35:55 GMT -5
That might explain why Ed the Butcher of Luverne fishtailed it when he wrecked it for Peggy. His pickup has the opposite weight distribution.
Nader warned us the gas tank in the front was dangerous. You saw the fuel filler door on the fender when Peggy was posing in front of it at the shop.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 17, 2015 2:03:03 GMT -5
Nick Offerman was terrific in this one.
I hope Peggy killed Dodd. It would be an appropriately humiliating death for the dumb muscle who thinks he's the criminal mastermind.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 17, 2015 20:56:17 GMT -5
I had been thinking the show was underutilizing Offerman prior to this. I no longer feel that way. Damn, he was good.
I'm guessing Peggy didn't kill Dodd. I think she's still in denial over her situation, she doesn't see herself as a killer, and she thinks she can just get one with her life.
Hanzee continues to be ruthlessly competent. I'm guessing it's going to come down to him vs. Milligan at some point.
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Fargo
Nov 19, 2015 14:30:43 GMT -5
Post by Powerthirteen on Nov 19, 2015 14:30:43 GMT -5
I'm sad about how few people there are in the comments section for Teti's weekly Polite Fight about Fargo. It's my favorite discussion of the week.
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Fargo
Nov 19, 2015 21:54:27 GMT -5
Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 19, 2015 21:54:27 GMT -5
I'm sad about how few people there are in the comments section for Teti's weekly Polite Fight about Fargo. It's my favorite discussion of the week. I gotta start commenting over there! |
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Post by Powerthirteen on Nov 19, 2015 22:13:53 GMT -5
I'm sad about how few people there are in the comments section for Teti's weekly Polite Fight about Fargo. It's my favorite discussion of the week. I gotta start commenting over there! Join our party every Wednesday! Teti even joins the conversation. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 19, 2015 22:34:37 GMT -5
I gotta start commenting over there! Join our party every Wednesday! Teti even joins the conversation. I shall endeavour to be there from now on! |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 23, 2015 23:25:08 GMT -5
Damn. This show. Just, damn.
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Post by songstarliner on Nov 24, 2015 1:10:57 GMT -5
Damn. This show. Just, damn. A hundred times, yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 3:40:08 GMT -5
Hey, Bear was in Fury Road! I missed the first few minutes, so the rest of the episode didn't completely click for me. I love the performances, tho; especially that scene with Betsy and Karl. And I know it's insane, but I love their houses. |
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Fargo
Dec 1, 2015 3:27:48 GMT -5
Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Dec 1, 2015 3:27:48 GMT -5
I just watched last week's episode and tonight. Damn, the ending of last week's was satisfying. How do you do that pistol-sleeve thing that Mike Milligan did? He's so damn cool that I was disappointed that things aren't currently working out for him. Bokeem Woodbine deserves a much higher profile when this season is over.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Dec 1, 2015 20:18:07 GMT -5
We just finished watching last night's episode. Goddamn it that was good. The way it just ratcheted the tension up and up, that it made you feel sympathetic towards even the sociopaths, that just perfect ending - that was one of the best episodes of TV I've seen all year.
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