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Post by space robot on Aug 22, 2017 22:48:31 GMT -5
Gonna be rated TV MA. This isn't even star trek anymore. Can't show sexy, vital Klingons without upping the rating. |
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Post by The Spice Weasel on Aug 22, 2017 23:24:16 GMT -5
DS9 was great, it was serialized and episodic in the perfect balance. I doubt with STD we would ever get episodes like Visitor or Our Man Bashir. And I will kinda miss traditional two parters. Not all two parters were great, but whenever they happened they felt important and special. It really was. Especially the way they eased into it. I've never read up on it. Was it a plan from the start or did it just develop as they went along? Still not sold on Discovery but hoping I'm wrong. |
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 6, 2017 8:38:45 GMT -5
I understand the concern that those involved with the show might not have given enough attention to DS9, but in an of itself the notion that Discovery is going to be highly serialized sounds like a good thing to me. Hopefully it's good and respects the legacy of past shows.
What I'm most intrigued by, though, unfortunately, is whether the CBS streaming platform works. A lot of times I feel that notions of fan abandonment are overblown, i.e. we may complain but we'll still line up to see the next film, or if nothing else hatewatch the next show, driven by habit or curiousity or whatever. With a paywall for something that isn't delivered in the binge-able Netflix mode? I think that I can resist buying into that, and that a lot of other people might resist as well.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 10, 2017 2:13:04 GMT -5
At this point, I am still not planning on subscribing to CBS's platform. There is no way I'd pay that much for a service just to watch 1 show.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Sept 10, 2017 13:07:40 GMT -5
At this point, I am still not planning on subscribing to CBS's platform. There is no way I'd pay that much for a service just to watch 1 show. Excuse me Desert Dweller but I think you are forgetting about Young Sheldon. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Sept 10, 2017 16:21:55 GMT -5
At this point, I am still not planning on subscribing to CBS's platform. There is no way I'd pay that much for a service just to watch 1 show. Excuse me Desert Dweller but I think you are forgetting about Young Sheldon. I don't mean to step on your joke, but is that seriously only going to be available on CBS All Access as well? |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Sept 11, 2017 15:48:34 GMT -5
Roy Batty's Pet Dove I doubt it. The crazy thing is that here in LA, where there’s an unusual amount of outdoor TV advertising (I suspect mainly as a sort of dick-wagging exercise for execs), Discovery is far and away the most heavily-advertised TV show of the fall—more heavily advertised than Young Sheldon, even more heavily advertised than Star Trek Beyond. So heavily advertised you’d think it was actually getting a regular TV release rather than being siloed on Netflix with a VPN ettv The Pirate Bay CBS All Access. In incredibly minor Discovery news both Memory-Alpha and Ex-Astris-Scientia have announced they’re not going with CBS’s preferred acronym, DSC, but rather going with DIS, much as they prefer VOY over VGR. I think this means next-to-nothing but it is amusing that CBS is already pissing off the hardcore fans in minor, minor ways.
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Sept 11, 2017 17:33:22 GMT -5
In incredibly minor Discovery news both Memory-Alpha and Ex-Astris-Scientia have announced they’re not going with CBS’s preferred acronym, DSC, but rather going with DIS, much as they prefer VOY over VGR. I think this means next-to-nothing but it is amusing that CBS is already pissing off the hardcore fans in minor, minor ways. VGR is that which seeks the Creator. |
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Post by Generic Poster on Sept 12, 2017 8:29:42 GMT -5
Roy Batty's Pet Dove I doubt it. The crazy thing is that here in LA, where there’s an unusual amount of outdoor TV advertising (I suspect mainly as a sort of dick-wagging exercise for execs), Discovery is far and away the most heavily-advertised TV show of the fall—more heavily advertised than Young Sheldon, even more heavily advertised than Star Trek Beyond. So heavily advertised you’d think it was actually getting a regular TV release rather than being siloed on Netflix with a VPN ettv The Pirate Bay CBS All Access. In incredibly minor Discovery news both Memory-Alpha and Ex-Astris-Scientia have announced they’re not going with CBS’s preferred acronym, DSC, but rather going with DIS, much as they prefer VOY over VGR. I think this means next-to-nothing but it is amusing that CBS is already pissing off the hardcore fans in minor, minor ways. I'm going with my preferred acronym, STD. |
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 12, 2017 23:16:40 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 12, 2017 23:57:03 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. Hard to say without seeing the final version. This one seems pretty generic, except for the excerpts from the original theme. Those excerpts are way more dynamic. The newly composed stuff just sounds like sustained notes over an accented beat in the low instruments. No real melody I could discern. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Sept 13, 2017 0:05:55 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8
I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. I'd have to disagree with your claim that anything would be an upgrade over ENT. A few years ago, there was this chain mail conspiracy theory that this shitty shitty country band called Diamond Rio had had their superlatively bad song "In God We Still Trust" banned from American radio stations by President Obama himself because it's theme of patriotic religious fervor was viewed as "politically incorrect". In reality, the reason that the song didn't get a lot of airplay is because it was actually just a very shitty song, the product of objectively inferior songwriting and production values relative to even the most formulaic and dull of commercial country hits. My point is, of all the songs that exist, any of which could conceivably have been chosen as the theme song for Star Trek: Discovery, some of them would not be an upgrade over the Enterprise theme, and "In God We Still Trust" is one of those songs. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 13, 2017 8:05:53 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. It's ok, I guess. I may feel differently after hearing the full thing in context a few times. I wish they'd follow the example of TNG and adapt some of the really strong preexisting themes, like the ones for WOK or TVH. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 10:12:59 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. I don't like it. It sounds really generic and devoid of any memorable melodies or hooks apart from the bookends referencing the classic themes. There's nothing in this that catches the ear and lodges itself in my brain like literally all previous Trek themes have. Though given the sheer volume of movie/TV/game/etc. themes these days with no memorable melodies, I guess it fits in. Honestly, even Enterprise - as terrible as the lyrics of "Faith of the Heart" are, *musically* it's at least got an identifiable melody. (Also, I think the rest of the music of the show was pretty good - "Archer's Theme" would have been a solid intro piece.) TOS, TMP, TWOK, TVH, TNG, VOY, etc. all had memorable melodies. This feels more like background music. |
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Post by Generic Poster on Sept 13, 2017 10:18:55 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. It sounds like the background music to a car commercial. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 10:49:11 GMT -5
The lyrics in the new theme are weird. The dude isn't even singing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 20:29:59 GMT -5
Star Trek Discovery reviews are embargoed until after it releases....... uh-oh
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 22:38:01 GMT -5
Star Trek Discovery reviews are embargoed until after it releases....... uh-oh This is always a mark of quality. |
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 14, 2017 9:23:50 GMT -5
Bleh yikes.
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 14, 2017 12:27:49 GMT -5
So I just watched an extended trailer for Discovery that has 'A Netflix Original Series' flash across the screen and the Netflix logo in the corner.
Speaking as a US viewer, it made me feel that CBS deserves my personal boycott, at least, for not simply putting it on Netflix everywhere. I think that I can handle not seeing is it airs.
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 14, 2017 12:33:52 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. It doesn't sound like much of anything, at least not there. My favorite Trek theme is DS9, but they all have memorable melodies, so I guess that we'll have to wait and see. I like the first half of the ENT theme song when it's slow, acoustic and a little bit wistful, but it's hard to compare it to any of the others because it's a pop song. Also - the composer is Jeff Russo from Tonic (lead guitarist)! I thought that I recognized the name but had no idea that he was in the film-scoring business. |
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 14, 2017 12:52:38 GMT -5
At least you have a streaming option... last I heard Bell has the rights to it here and is airing them on cable (on their terrrrrible syfy-wannabe station) and then bringing them to their proprietary streaming service "at some point."
So yeah, Canada is going to be like the only place that doesn't get a streaming option immediately after airing because our cable companies are determined to keep trying to live in 1998
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 14, 2017 13:02:09 GMT -5
My wife and I discussed this over lunch and I think our current plan is to wait until reviews of episode two and after come in before deciding about the service. If the reviews are stellar I'll investigate the service. If not, we won't bother.
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 14, 2017 14:31:09 GMT -5
At least you have a streaming option... last I heard Bell has the rights to it here and is airing them on cable (on their terrrrrible syfy-wannabe station) and then bringing them to their proprietary streaming service "at some point." So yeah, Canada is going to be like the only place that doesn't get a streaming option immediately after airing because our cable companies are determined to keep trying to live in 1998 Oh - my condolences. I thought that I recalled hearing someone say that it would be on Netflix in Canada, but I must have gotten confused about where this person was actually located. |
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 14, 2017 14:50:50 GMT -5
this is why their whining about piracy falls on deaf ears for the most part. especially when for quite a while that service was only available to their subscribers and large parts of Canada that wasn't even an option... but they still had canada wide exclusive rights to a bunch of major shows particularly prestige cable stuff.
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 14, 2017 14:51:42 GMT -5
At least you have a streaming option... last I heard Bell has the rights to it here and is airing them on cable (on their terrrrrible syfy-wannabe station) and then bringing them to their proprietary streaming service "at some point." So yeah, Canada is going to be like the only place that doesn't get a streaming option immediately after airing because our cable companies are determined to keep trying to live in 1998 Oh - my condolences. I thought that I recalled hearing someone say that it would be on Netflix in Canada, but I must have gotten confused about where this person was actually located. We got the new star wars stuff in Canada on netflix as one of the first ones so that may be it too. |
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Post by Incense on Sept 14, 2017 17:40:04 GMT -5
What do folks think of the theme? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8I have to admit that anything would be an upgrade on ENT (or Voyager, but that's a personal music beef with me) but I can see this one growing on me (love the double bass.) Will have to wait til Kurtzman isn't talking over it though. It doesn't sound like much of anything, at least not there. My favorite Trek theme is DS9, but they all have memorable melodies, so I guess that we'll have to wait and see. I like the first half of the ENT theme song when it's slow, acoustic and a little bit wistful, but it's hard to compare it to any of the others because it's a pop song. Also - the composer is Jeff Russo from Tonic (lead guitarist)! I thought that I recognized the name but had no idea that he was in the film-scoring business. I love the bits that quote the Courage theme, and the stuff in the middle is lovely ... but not very stirring or exciting. It would make a great ending theme. All together, it feels like a mishmash. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Sept 16, 2017 12:40:22 GMT -5
I’m not surprised at the music—I’d be surprised if Discovery had an actual main theme—big long title sequences à la DS9/VOY aren’t really done anymore and they just need a few elements that can be repurposed in the background and various ways or over a short sequence of title cards/end credits.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 13:22:13 GMT -5
I actually have CBS all access (for the NFL season, since I can watch CBS live) and I'm not even going to watch STD. I'm a bad trek fan.
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Sept 17, 2017 14:56:26 GMT -5
At least you have a streaming option... last I heard Bell has the rights to it here and is airing them on cable (on their terrrrrible syfy-wannabe station) and then bringing them to their proprietary streaming service "at some point." So yeah, Canada is going to be like the only place that doesn't get a streaming option immediately after airing because our cable companies are determined to keep trying to live in 1998 What! Space is a great station. It gives you shows about space, which is all you can really ask for. |
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