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Post by nowimnothing on Aug 29, 2016 16:46:48 GMT -5
www.soylent.com/Trying my first glass now, it is not good. I did not expect the chalkiness. Mixed with a couple of bananas and ice, it is better. Guess I should start googling recipes. I am going to be trying this for about a month. I am not going on an all liquid diet, I just figured one soylent instead of dinner would be a good way to break my bad habits regard that particular meal. I do really good for breakfast and lunch, but when I get home from work, I am really hungry and I end up grazing all night as I fix food for the kids and then clean up their leftovers. I average about 1,000 calories for breakfast and lunch combined, so I know dinner time is my problem. Soylent is not a diet drink, but it is nutritionally balanced and each serving is 400 calories, so it makes for a good meal substitute. Like my treadmill routine, I will try to replace one meal a day with soylent every weekday. Weekends are ok for reasonable consumption of real food. I also reserve the right to eat fresh fruits and vegetables for snacks or mixers at dinnertime. I also figured if I would post my experiences with soylent here, then maybe that would give me some more incentive to keep it up. So far not looking too good. Day 1: 264lbs, mix with 2 bananas and a cup of ice
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Post by Post-Lupin on Aug 29, 2016 17:01:38 GMT -5
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Post by sarapen on Aug 30, 2016 9:37:46 GMT -5
Funny, I was just listening to a podcast about that. Apparently Soylent has no micro-organisms in it and eating it can really alter your intestinal microbiome. No one knows what the health implications of this is since no one really knows shit about microbiomes right now, but it's a noticeable effect of eating Soylent over an extended period of time.
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Post by nowimnothing on Aug 30, 2016 10:03:41 GMT -5
So last night was interesting. I ended up kind of freaking out about how little food it seemed to be and ended up eating two more bananas because I thought I would be starving. So including the two I mixed into the Soylent, that was 4 bananas (more on that later.) It was really hard to not pick at my kids' leftovers, which tells me something about how many calories I have been ingesting without even thinking. Because of the ice and bananas I was able to spread my consumption of the Soylent over about 1.5 hours. By the time bedtime rolled around (recall the extra bananas) I was stuffed. Not really bloated or stomach ache, just uncomfortably full. That did help me avoid any snacking though. I also felt really alert, kind of like after a cup of coffee, but not as jittery. So it was a little hard to fall asleep but when I did I slept very soundly. I did experience some burping at first and later gas, but not to an excessive amount. It think this is something they worked on through their beta testing and may relate to sarapen 's post. I am not too worried about that as I am still eating regular food, just not as much. This morning I was hungry but after some time on the treadmill and a bowl of cereal, I am back to feeling pretty full again. I have been reading about adding coffee flavorings. I may try that tonight. I need to work past the taste. The biggest motivator right now is that I have 11 bottles left and I am too cheap to just throw them away. Maybe by the time I get through these, I will be in a routine.
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Post by nowimnothing on Aug 31, 2016 7:55:47 GMT -5
Day 2:
I learned my lesson from the first night and kept away from additional bananas. As a result I was still full, but not uncomfortably so. I tried more flavorings this time but it was still pretty bad. You guys, it took so much willpower to not eat the chicken nuggets left over from my kid's dinner and just throw them in the trash. I don't even like frozen chicken nuggets all that much, but throwing away food is like throwing cash away and I am very cheap. I am afraid if I switched to sensible meals for dinner after I run out of Soylent that I may fall back into my bad habits. The best thing about the Soylent is that it really does fill me up for the night. I just have to get over that first hour or so when I get home.
Day 2: 263 lbs mix 2 bananas, 30 ml chocolate syrup, 30 ml mocha/caramel coffee creamer, 1 cup ice add about 100 calories for flavorings (the coffee creamer did nothing, hence the chocolate syrup which helped some)
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Post by Pastafarian on Aug 31, 2016 8:26:05 GMT -5
Day 2: I learned my lesson from the first night and kept away from additional bananas. As a result I was still full, but not uncomfortably so. I tried more flavorings this time but it was still pretty bad. You guys, it took so much willpower to not eat the chicken nuggets left over from my kid's dinner and just throw them in the trash. I don't even like frozen chicken nuggets all that much, but throwing away food is like throwing cash away and I am very cheap. I am afraid if I switched to sensible meals for dinner after I run out of Soylent that I may fall back into my bad habits. The best thing about the Soylent is that it really does fill me up for the night. I just have to get over that first hour or so when I get home. Day 2: 263 lbs mix 2 bananas, 30 ml chocolate syrup, 30 ml mocha/caramel coffee creamer, 1 cup ice add about 100 calories for flavorings (the coffee creamer did nothing, hence the chocolate syrup which helped some) I'm weary of offering advice, particularly when it comes to dieting, but if you keep giving your body extra sugar it's going to use that for fuel instead of fat and you may end up sabotaging your efforts. Not to mention all the stuff that goes on with insulin and blood glucose. I get it may be hard to get it down, but putting a bunch of bananas and chocolate syrup in the mix is going to work against you. Unless you were eating a ton more sugar and starches before and this is a step down. Is there some type of low sugar flavouring you could use to make it easier to consume without adding a bunch of extra calories and carbs? As for throwing away the nuggets, they are either going into the trash or into the sewer, and they won't give you a ton of benefit before getting to the sewer (other than some energy, but you've got some of that stored up) so is it that big of a waste to throw them away? Just think of it as bypassing the part where you ingest it and sending them straight to the refuse pile instead of indirectly.
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Post by nowimnothing on Aug 31, 2016 10:18:39 GMT -5
Day 2: I learned my lesson from the first night and kept away from additional bananas. As a result I was still full, but not uncomfortably so. I tried more flavorings this time but it was still pretty bad. You guys, it took so much willpower to not eat the chicken nuggets left over from my kid's dinner and just throw them in the trash. I don't even like frozen chicken nuggets all that much, but throwing away food is like throwing cash away and I am very cheap. I am afraid if I switched to sensible meals for dinner after I run out of Soylent that I may fall back into my bad habits. The best thing about the Soylent is that it really does fill me up for the night. I just have to get over that first hour or so when I get home. Day 2: 263 lbs mix 2 bananas, 30 ml chocolate syrup, 30 ml mocha/caramel coffee creamer, 1 cup ice add about 100 calories for flavorings (the coffee creamer did nothing, hence the chocolate syrup which helped some) I'm weary of offering advice, particularly when it comes to dieting, but if you keep giving your body extra sugar it's going to use that for fuel instead of fat and you may end up sabotaging your efforts. Not to mention all the stuff that goes on with insulin and blood glucose. I get it may be hard to get it down, but putting a bunch of bananas and chocolate syrup in the mix is going to work against you. Unless you were eating a ton more sugar and starches before and this is a step down. Is there some type of low sugar flavouring you could use to make it easier to consume without adding a bunch of extra calories and carbs? As for throwing away the nuggets, they are either going into the trash or into the sewer, and they won't give you a ton of benefit before getting to the sewer (other than some energy, but you've got some of that stored up) so is it that big of a waste to throw them away? Just think of it as bypassing the part where you ingest it and sending them straight to the refuse pile instead of indirectly. Thanks. Yeah even with the bananas and syrup it is still a big step down for me. Previously my dinner would probably include a lot of sugary condiments like dressing or BBQ sauce. Plus a glass of skim milk, usually with chocolate syrup. Not to mention whatever I scarfed down from my kid's plates. Thanks for the advice though, I have been focusing mainly on calories in/out. But I should also pay attention to the types of calories.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 1, 2016 9:20:12 GMT -5
Day 3:
261 lbs
mix with 1 banana, 1 cup strawberries, 30 ml honey, 1 cup ice
Still a bad aftertaste, but doable. Not quite as full of a feeling.
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Post by Pastafarian on Sept 1, 2016 9:31:08 GMT -5
I'm weary of offering advice, particularly when it comes to dieting, but if you keep giving your body extra sugar it's going to use that for fuel instead of fat and you may end up sabotaging your efforts. Not to mention all the stuff that goes on with insulin and blood glucose. I get it may be hard to get it down, but putting a bunch of bananas and chocolate syrup in the mix is going to work against you. Unless you were eating a ton more sugar and starches before and this is a step down. Is there some type of low sugar flavouring you could use to make it easier to consume without adding a bunch of extra calories and carbs? As for throwing away the nuggets, they are either going into the trash or into the sewer, and they won't give you a ton of benefit before getting to the sewer (other than some energy, but you've got some of that stored up) so is it that big of a waste to throw them away? Just think of it as bypassing the part where you ingest it and sending them straight to the refuse pile instead of indirectly. Thanks. Yeah even with the bananas and syrup it is still a big step down for me. Previously my dinner would probably include a lot of sugary condiments like dressing or BBQ sauce. Plus a glass of skim milk, usually with chocolate syrup. Not to mention whatever I scarfed down from my kid's plates. Thanks for the advice though, I have been focusing mainly on calories in/out. But I should also pay attention to the types of calories. I wonder if something like cinnamon which would provide flavor with very little calories might be an option? The problem with sugar is that it actually perpetuates hunger so ends up causing either overeating or just suffering from the hunger signals you're trying to white knuckle your way through. Anyway, I applaud you trying to do something about it. it sure as hell ain't easy.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 2, 2016 14:27:34 GMT -5
Day 4: 262 lbs
mix with 2 bananas, 30 ml chocolate syrup, 1 cup ice
For some reason this one went down a lot better, the first few sips were hard, but after that it was kind of pleasant.
Maybe I will try cinnamon tonight. I think I will still need the bananas though, even with just one it is hard to drink.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 3, 2016 9:42:39 GMT -5
Day 5: 260 lbs mix 2 bananas with 1 tbs cinnamon, 1 cup ice
I could not really taste the cinnamon, but I think I am getting more used to the natural flavor.
Like my exercise routine, I will take a break for the weekend, just sensible meals and no snacking. We will see where we are on Tuesday.
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Post by Pastafarian on Sept 3, 2016 10:15:42 GMT -5
Day 5: 260 lbs mix 2 bananas with 1 tbs cinnamon, 1 cup ice I could not really taste the cinnamon, but I think I am getting more used to the natural flavor. Like my exercise routine, I will take a break for the weekend, just sensible meals and no snacking. We will see where we are on Tuesday. On the upside, you're losing! Also cinnamon helps level out blood sugar spikes, so even if you don't taste it you might want to add a little to it for the health benefits. Trying to think what else you might add to help it go down. Maybe one of those flavoured syrups coffee shops use to make lattes and stuff? They have sugar free versions of vanilla, hazelnut, etc. Anyway if you're getting kinda used to how it tastes maybe thats the easiest.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Sept 15, 2016 17:43:49 GMT -5
nowimnothing I have just found this thread and I'm very interested. How's it going? Are you still eating (or drinking, or whatever) the soylent, or did you give it up? sarapen Do you know if eating soylent harms existing flora, or is more that the microorganisms do not get renewed? I wonder if the effects could be mitigated by alternating the soylent with other, more probiotic laden foods.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 16, 2016 4:22:31 GMT -5
nowimnothing I have just found this thread and I'm very interested. How's it going? Are you still eating (or drinking, or whatever) the soylent, or did you give it up? sarapen Do you know if eating soylent harms existing flora, or is more that the microorganisms do not get renewed? I wonder if the effects could be mitigated by alternating the soylent with other, more probiotic laden foods. Yes I am, down to 258lbs. I guess this would be like day 13 since I do not drink it on the weekends. The taste is growing on me a bit, it is just that first swig of chalkiness that I have to get over, then I kind of enjoy it. I am still mixing 2 bananas, ice and chocolate syrup. But I have started experimenting with cutting back on the mixers a bit now that I am more used to the taste. I really waffled before I bought my second 12 pack. I wondered if I might get the same weight loss result by just using skim milk in a mix or by closely watching my calories at dinner time. My main concern was fullness. The soylent really, really makes me feel full. And I am afraid anything else might leave me feeling like I was on a diet.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 16, 2016 20:03:36 GMT -5
nowimnothing I have just found this thread and I'm very interested. How's it going? Are you still eating (or drinking, or whatever) the soylent, or did you give it up? sarapen Do you know if eating soylent harms existing flora, or is more that the microorganisms do not get renewed? I wonder if the effects could be mitigated by alternating the soylent with other, more probiotic laden foods. There was very little detail provided in the podcast I mentioned. The relevant bit from an article by one of the podcasters who interviewed the inventor of Soylent:
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Sept 16, 2016 21:11:16 GMT -5
nowimnothing I have just found this thread and I'm very interested. How's it going? Are you still eating (or drinking, or whatever) the soylent, or did you give it up? sarapen Do you know if eating soylent harms existing flora, or is more that the microorganisms do not get renewed? I wonder if the effects could be mitigated by alternating the soylent with other, more probiotic laden foods. There was very little detail provided in the podcast I mentioned. The relevant bit from an article by one of the podcasters who interviewed the inventor of Soylent: That's really interesting. I wonder if it means his gut microbes are less effective than most people's or if it just means that the foods used in soylent are different enough from the average American diet that it has changed his flora. He doesn't seem to say whether this difference is good, bad, or just different. I have been reading up on intestinal flora a little, and besides it's part in helping the body ward off infections, there is now some conjecture that it even effects a person's body chemistry to the point of possibly being a factor in depression. Really fascinating stuff.
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Post by Pastafarian on Sept 17, 2016 16:17:00 GMT -5
There was very little detail provided in the podcast I mentioned. The relevant bit from an article by one of the podcasters who interviewed the inventor of Soylent: there is now some conjecture that it even effects a person's body chemistry to the point of possibly being a factor in depression. Really fascinating stuff. Not only that but things like obesity and susceptibility to auto-immune disorders. I feel like unless Soylent is killing good bacteria though, that it's easy enough to supplement with probiotics or eat some kimchi or sauerkraut or drink some kombucha during the week.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 30, 2016 15:13:25 GMT -5
Alright, 1 month update: I just bought my third 12 pack of bottles, so I have consumed somewhere around 25 bottles so far.
Weight: 255 lbs (9 lbs lost in 30 days) I figure I am consuming 1500-1800 calories on weekdays. Interestingly the weight loss motivates me to be very careful of calories on weekends too. I was a bit worried about overconsuming on weekends, but that has not been the case so far. Actually I have thought about just making a soylent shake when I am hungry on the weekends, knowing that I will feel full and not overdo it.
I have dropped the mix down to 1-1.5 bananas and a lite sugar free chocolate syrup. I look forward to my shake and it still fills me up. Only once every few days do I even notice the chalkiness, I think I have mostly worked past that.
I am a little concerned about the iron content long term. I have a genetic blood disorder where my body is super good at storing iron. Excess iron can damage your organs so I have to get a few pints of blood drawn each year to keep my iron levels down. I have an appointment in December, so we will see if it is different than usual. This summer my levels were still normal after 6 months, so I am not too worried though.
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Post by Pastafarian on Sept 30, 2016 19:03:04 GMT -5
Are you allowed to donate said blood? Or does your disorder prevent you from doing so? Cause it seems a shame to just throw out perfectly good blood!
I'm asking for a vampire friend.
*Also congrats on the weight loss and being consistent even on the weekends (when my resolve tends to dissolve)*
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Post by nowimnothing on Oct 2, 2016 8:26:24 GMT -5
Are you allowed to donate said blood? Or does your disorder prevent you from doing so? Cause it seems a shame to just throw out perfectly good blood! I'm asking for a vampire friend. *Also congrats on the weight loss and being consistent even on the weekends (when my resolve tends to dissolve)* It is really fucked up. It is not communicable in any way, but most places will not take it. The Red Cross says that it would violate their policy of not getting reimbursement for donating because you would get out of paying to get it drawn. There are a few groups that have been trying to get this changed, but there are still no places nearby that will take it. The total charge is about $400 per pint. I pay about $100 out of pocket. Last year was my first year and I had to have 7 pints taken out over 6 months.
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Post by Pastafarian on Oct 3, 2016 13:20:08 GMT -5
Are you allowed to donate said blood? Or does your disorder prevent you from doing so? Cause it seems a shame to just throw out perfectly good blood! I'm asking for a vampire friend. *Also congrats on the weight loss and being consistent even on the weekends (when my resolve tends to dissolve)* It is really fucked up. It is not communicable in any way, but most places will not take it. The Red Cross says that it would violate their policy of not getting reimbursement for donating because you would get out of paying to get it drawn. There are a few groups that have been trying to get this changed, but there are still no places nearby that will take it. The total charge is about $400 per pint. I pay about $100 out of pocket. Last year was my first year and I had to have 7 pints taken out over 6 months. That's crazy! I'm not sure where this would place on your personal ethics board, but couldn't you just forget to mention it and go donate somewhere?
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Post by nowimnothing on Oct 3, 2016 13:38:01 GMT -5
It is really fucked up. It is not communicable in any way, but most places will not take it. The Red Cross says that it would violate their policy of not getting reimbursement for donating because you would get out of paying to get it drawn. There are a few groups that have been trying to get this changed, but there are still no places nearby that will take it. The total charge is about $400 per pint. I pay about $100 out of pocket. Last year was my first year and I had to have 7 pints taken out over 6 months. That's crazy! I'm not sure where this would place on your personal ethics board, but couldn't you just forget to mention it and go donate somewhere? I have seriously thought about it. About the only thing holding me back is that I would probably have to deceive my doctor in one way or another.
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Post by nowimnothing on Nov 11, 2016 9:39:43 GMT -5
Ok I have been putting this off because I am disappointed in myself. After two months I am down to 253 lbs. So I lost 9 lbs in the first month and only 2 lbs the second. I could blame it on more days off (I don't do the treadmill or soylent on days I do not work) and Halloween, but the truth of the matter is that I have not been as good at avoiding snacking off my kid's unfinished plates at dinnertime. Taking a couple of crackers or a small handful of french fries does not seem like a big deal but apparently those calories count just as much as all the others and if I get anywhere near 2000 calories I just do not lose weight. I was actually down to 253 close to the start of October, went back up to 255 and just now got back down to 253 again. It also helps that I have some better shows to watch while on the treadmill now like Westworld. That encourages me to stay on for longer stretches. I ordered my 5th 12 pack of bottles so I have consumed about 45 bottles so far. No real change in my health or energy other than that generally good feeling you get as you lose weight. Also I figure I cannot do anything about the election, so I am going to try to focus on my health and spending more quality time with my family.
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Post by nowimnothing on Dec 7, 2016 17:59:12 GMT -5
Another up and down month. Currently 251 lbs. I was down to 249 for a hot minute but that did not last through Thanksgiving. 2 lbs a month is a little slower than I would like, but at least I am still moving in the right direction.
I did get my blood drawn to check my iron level this morning, so I will see what the results of that are next week.
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Post by Murray the Demonic Skull on Mar 30, 2017 4:17:00 GMT -5
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Post by nowimnothing on May 15, 2017 17:46:50 GMT -5
Oh wow it has been a while since I updated this. I was pretty much stuck at 250-255 for the rest of the winter so two weeks ago I figured I needed to change things up. First I switched from Soylent to Slim Fast. That dropped 200 calories off my daily intake. But I really did not like the taste and now I am trying the Special K Protein shakes. Same calorie count as Slim Fast, but the taste is a lot better. So far it seems to be working. I am down to 246 lbs, my lowest weight in about 12 years.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 21, 2017 20:42:25 GMT -5
I kind of came back just to see where I started. It has been a little over 1 year. I am sticking with the protein shakes but I have tended to supplement them with a a very light dinner like some chips and salsa or a salad. It has seemed very slow progress but I have moved down two pants sizes and my current weight is 237lbs. So if we go back to last August and 264lbs, that is a grand total of 27lbs. Not bad for one year. I am not quite down to my college weight but I am within spitting distance. My total weight lost over the past 4.5 years (when I bought a treadmill and started to get serious) is coming up on 60 lbs so I am pretty happy with where I am at.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Aug 16, 2021 18:55:41 GMT -5
I just randomly found this thread, and am not sure if you've seen me talk about it elsewhere on the site, but I've been drinking Huel Black Edition shakes for the last 11 months at work. I started drinking them because I wanted an easy breakfast and/or lunch that would be filling and also help me control my blood sugar for my type 2 diabetes. They've worked well for that for the most part. They have a bunch of different flavors, both in regular and (low carb) Black Edition.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Feb 15, 2022 17:10:02 GMT -5
I bought a couple of 4 packs just slightly-out-of-date of vanilla Soylent the other day at the local Treasure Bins liquidator store for like two dollars apiece. So far I have only drunk one of them, and it was sort of OK. Mostly I wanted to see how it tasted and such, and plan on drinking these as an occasional meal substitute, and if I like them, I may try a full case of chocolate or something. Remember, 2022 is the year the movie was set in, and "Tuesday is Soylent Green Day." *
*Question: did the band Green Day get their name from that slogan?
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Feb 15, 2022 22:30:27 GMT -5
"Tuesday is Soylent Green Day." *
*Question: did the band Green Day get their name from that slogan?
According to their Wikipedia entry, no. 'The phrase, "Green day", was slang in the Bay Area, where the band originated, for spending a day doing nothing but smoking marijuana.'
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