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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 6, 2017 9:52:19 GMT -5
I made the chicken parm meatballs last week, and they were good. They didn't quite get to "chicken parm" because there's a big difference between breaded and fried vs "rolled in panko, briefly fried, then cooked in tomato sauce and cheese" but it was overall satisfying and tasty. I had to return the book to the library, but I took a bunch of pictures of various recipes I wanted to try. But I don't have a stand mixer (for, say, the pizza dough) or a candy thermometer (for the Salty Chocolaty Peanut Buttery Crunchy Bars) so a few might not happen. Glad you dug the meatballs. Texturally they are different than their namesake for sure, but flavor-wise I really do think they taste exactly like chicken parm. Or at least exactly like my chicken parm ... only better. ETA: And easier to make, too. Preparing, using and then cleaning a full breading station is like my least favorite thing in cooking. I'd much rather form some meatballs and roll them in bread crumbs. They were a lot easier than full breading station, for sure, although I got a little messy with the whole endeavor, I didn't quite measure precisely and my meatballs seemed a bit too wet. And I still had to shift everything to a big baking dish because my big saucepan wasn't quite big enough. But yes, they did taste quite good, and made for a satisfying little sandwich.
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Post by LazBro on Apr 7, 2017 9:29:11 GMT -5
#16 - Mushroom StroganoffI actually made this weeks, even months, ago, but somehow never got around to writing it up. Which is odd, because by all measures it's a scrumptious and really very simple recipe. First debuted on the Food Network series The Best Thing I Ever Made, Alton's mushroom stroganoff combines three of my absolute favorite ingredients: pasta (of any kind), mushrooms and green onions. Offering only a passing wave to the classic beef stroganoff with its beef broth base, this version loads up the vegetation and puts the meaty, chewy satisfaction of portobello mushrooms front and center. It's better for it. If you know how to make stroganoff, I doubt you'd even need a recipe for this one. There are no surprises. Sautee a crap-ton of sliced portobellos - big slices, give them their dignity - add flour and cook it out a little. Add beef broth and thicken. Add sour cream, add goat cheese (okay, maybe one surprise), add green onions, season with salt and pepper. Mix in some cooked egg noodles at the end. Toss and serve. The only flavor trick here is to cook the mushrooms wicked hot and really invest in developing that brown crust. That's where the good mushroomy flavor will come from. I like Alton's tip: "If the pan is really hot, when you toss the mushrooms they’ll make a funny hissing sound, kind of like they’re singing . . . or screaming, which I guess makes more sense."Recipe: www.tastebook.com/blog/recipes/5036954-alton-brown-mushroom-stroganoff-recipe/(not my image)
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Post by LazBro on Apr 7, 2017 12:42:51 GMT -5
...though the oatmeal banana bread is kinda calling my name. Must add chocolate chips, though. Unless the Mrs. or Baby Snape got to them, I think I have 3 overripe bananas at the homestead right now. I feel this recipe calling my name. (no chocolate chips for me though. Nuts, though. Maybe nuts.)
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 7, 2017 12:47:03 GMT -5
We did the "enchilasagna" last night.... and it's not fundamentally different from the layered enchilada bake I've done before. I'm not sure why I even bothered with a recipe. Certainly if you've never layered enchiladas instead of rolling them it's a new idea, but I've been doing roughly the same thing for ages. Still tasty, though.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 10, 2017 8:06:11 GMT -5
I made the banana bread on a bit of a whim on Friday. I had a previous go-to recipe that was just fine, but I think I'll make this one again.
The oatmeal was a nice addition, though I'm not 100% sure how much of a difference toasting it made? Though it wasn't a huge pain. Didn't really dirty my mini food chopper too much.
I lack a stand mixer. I have a decent but old hand mixer and an arm. So I did the heavier-duty mixing with the hand mixer and the rest by hand. The bread turned out dense but not too heavy with a nice crumb and a pleasant oaty taste. I also added chocolate chunks, and it was splendid.
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Post by LazBro on Apr 10, 2017 10:38:35 GMT -5
Hey, me too! #17 - Oatmeal Banana BreadI'm no baker! Like gardeners with green thumbs, or IT professionals who can fix your computer woes just by walking through the room, I'm convinced that some cooks are born with an aura of baking success. I could go toe-to-toe with a baker, each of us making the exact same recipe, with the exact same ingredients and the exact same technique, and theirs would come out perfectly while mine came out utter shit. I can get good flavors out of flour, spatulas and hot ovens, but there's always some deficit. Bad texture, bad rise, overcooked, undercooked, falls apart, hard as a rock, take your damned pick! Could I practice my way out of these failings? Maybe ... some of them ... sometimes, but instead my solution of choice has been to not bake. Or at least, to not bake very often. However, in the same way that people get food cravings, I sometimes get technique cravings. This implacable need to perform a culinary action, whether or not I need or want its result. More than once I've made my own mayonnaise, not because I had some recipe planned for it, but because I was overcome with a powerful urge to do so. And believe it or not, despite my inherent mediocrity, I sometimes have to bake! Remember my lattice-top apple pie? That was this, applied. And for no reason I've yet identified, when this urge hits, I very often turn to banana bread. Maybe it's because I like it, maybe it's because you can tell yourself it's a breakfast food, meaning it "counts" as a meal. Whatever the reason, for as little experience I have with baking overall, I've made banana bread, like, a bunch of times. That's probably why Alton's recipe stood out to me. Can he help me do it better? Will it have better flavor, better methodology, a better crumb? Let's find out: Well, I can tell you that Alton's oatmeal banana bread recipe is on my shit list right from the start, because it uses not one, but two heavy appliances: food processor and stand mixer*. The food processor is engaged in the rather finicky step of making your own oat flour, by first toasting old fashioned oats in the oven, then cooling and blitzing them in the processor to make a fine meal. I don't know that this improves on store bought oat flour, which is cheap and readily available, but I suppose if you don't use it very much, and I certainly don't, taking the extra step to make your own out of oats, an ingredient with more culinary potential, is smart ... if again, finicky. The rest of the process is classic muffin method. Cream butter and sugar in the mixer. Incorporate eggs and vanilla. Incorporate mashed overripe bananas. Add dry ingredients including flour, oat flour, baking soda, baking powder and salt. Mix until just formed. Add chunks if desired (I went with toasted pecans). Pan up and bake. The results were good, if not special. It tastes very much like any banana bread I've ever made. Not too sweet, which I like, with a pronounced banana flavor. The texture is a bit dry and crumbly for me, but I may have overbaked it. It's hard to get a solid slice, for example. Anyway, here it is: *Though like PET says, this could be easily done without a stand mixer. Since you'll be pulverizing oat flakes into a flour, the processor is less replaceable. Maybe a blender could do it?
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 10, 2017 10:42:18 GMT -5
LazBro my slices held together pretty well; I actually turned the oven off a hair early (around 45 minutes) and let it sit in there, cooling, while I took the dog out. Also, I blitzed my oats in my mini food chopper, since I do not own a proper food processor; it worked fine. I'm betting an old blade coffee grinder would work too. It does irritate me to dirty extra bowls unnecessarily, but I don't bake a ton, so it's OK.
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Post by LazBro on Apr 13, 2017 8:13:00 GMT -5
#18 - Crunchy Chickpeas Short and sweet. You take canned chickpeas, or in my case pressure cooked chickpeas, and you flavor them with olive oil, salt and sumac, then you slow roast them for like an hour, then you let them cool. If you do it right, they'll be crunchy little flavor nuggets great for eating out of hand or adding to salads and what not.
In the book, this is a supplementary recipe to a kale caesar salad, but Mrs. Snape isn't big into caesars, and I wasn't in a salad mood, so instead I added these to give some extra crunch to a veggied-up bowl of spaghetti. It was a good fit. Baby Snape really liked them.
Yeah, not a lot of talking points coming to mind for crunchy chickpeas. No picture.
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Post by pairesta on Apr 13, 2017 9:33:37 GMT -5
#16 - Mushroom StroganoffI actually made this weeks, even months, ago, but somehow never got around to writing it up. Which is odd, because by all measures it's a scrumptious and really very simple recipe. First debuted on the Food Network series The Best Thing I Ever Made, Alton's mushroom stroganoff combines three of my absolute favorite ingredients: pasta (of any kind), mushrooms and green onions. Offering only a passing wave to the classic beef stroganoff with its beef broth base, this version loads up the vegetation and puts the meaty, chewy satisfaction of portobello mushrooms front and center. It's better for it. If you know how to make stroganoff, I doubt you'd even need a recipe for this one. There are no surprises. Sautee a crap-ton of sliced portobellos - big slices, give them their dignity - add flour and cook it out a little. Add beef broth and thicken. Add sour cream, add goat cheese (okay, maybe one surprise), add green onions, season with salt and pepper. Mix in some cooked egg noodles at the end. Toss and serve. The only flavor trick here is to cook the mushrooms wicked hot and really invest in developing that brown crust. That's where the good mushroomy flavor will come from. I like Alton's tip: "If the pan is really hot, when you toss the mushrooms they’ll make a funny hissing sound, kind of like they’re singing . . . or screaming, which I guess makes more sense."Recipe: www.tastebook.com/blog/recipes/5036954-alton-brown-mushroom-stroganoff-recipe/(not my image) Growing up, one of my all time favorite meals was stroganoff over egg noodles. My mom would use either meatballs or strips of beef as the meat. Glazed carrots on the side were a must. I had one of those moments in the past few years of "Hey, I also cook now, so why not make that?" and the wave of nostalgia that hit me on that first bite. It's turned into a favorite family meal; the kids will even eat the mushrooms in there (won't be adding goat cheese since my wife hates it).
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Post by LazBro on Apr 13, 2017 9:44:36 GMT -5
Growing up, one of my all time favorite meals was stroganoff over egg noodles. My mom would use either meatballs or strips of beef as the meat. Glazed carrots on the side were a must. I had one of those moments in the past few years of "Hey, I also cook now, so why not make that?" and the wave of nostalgia that hit me on that first bite. It's turned into a favorite family meal; the kids will even eat the mushrooms in there (won't be adding goat cheese since my wife hates it). It's so simple and satisfying to make. I really like it, and I do like the all-veggie twist of this recipe, which loses the beef but way ups the mushrooms. Makes it a little bit cheaper and a little bit healthier.
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Post by LazBro on Apr 20, 2017 8:30:48 GMT -5
#19 - Grilled Grilled Cheese
Alton Brown first introduced this recipe to the world on his woefully under-delivering YouTube channel (which for a brief stretch in 2014 was actually a promising successor to his TV show - now he mostly uses it to plug his tours). It's a cute idea: as we all know, grilled cheese sandwiches are not actually grilled. They're griddled. So why not make a grilled cheese that's actually grilled? And while you're at it, why stop at grilling the sandwich when you could actually grill the cheese?! A truly grilled, grilled cheese.
See ... cute. But it's also finicky as hell. As written the recipe calls for a full charcoal grill setup, which strikes me as excessive for the recipe's 10 minutes of total cook time, and also for the cook to fashion two cheese-grilling vessels out of long metal spatulas and wasteful lengths of aluminum foil. Here's how it goes in the book: set up the grill for two-zone cooking (direct and indirect). Through a combination of folds, jigger a high-walled aluminum boat around the business end of a metal diner-style spatula - and actually, this recipe makes two sandwiches, so go ahead and make two boats. Spray them down with oil. Load up the spatula/boat things with a combination of cheddar, gruyere, smoked paprika and mustard powder and grill over indirect heat until melty, being careful not to overheat and break the cheese. Butter some good bread and grill it on the direct heat to crusty. When the cheese is good and melted, shlorp the cheese onto the toast, cover to make a sandwich, wrap in foil and give it a last couple minutes on indirect heat. Eat.
Well, I don't have the right kind of spatula for this endeavor, much less two of them (and actually I'm feeding three, so...), and I don't particularly want to get a charcoal setup going with no others uses planned for it. Here's what I did: I grated up a bunch of cheese, close to the recipe's recommendations, and I loaded up my 10-inch cast iron skillet. Got a propane grill going for two-zone cooking and loaded in the skillet. While the cheese got melty, I grilled off the bread as intended. Once it was good and bubbly, I scooped the cheese from skillet to bread, lidded it, did the final cook through in the foil per the recipe, and served.
What is good? Of course it was good! It's grilled cheese! Was it the worth the methodology? Absolutely not.
I don't know ... maybe the charcoal or the foil boats really would have made a flavor difference, but for me the end result is no different than I would have achieved in a pan, and for less work. I guess one upside is that because it's grilled, there's very little clean up. No grease spatters on the counter.
My estimation is that it's a perfectly fine recipe that makes a perfectly fine sandwich, but at its heart it's more clever than practical. It fails the "everyday" approach of the book by being nominally more difficult than making a grilled cheese the traditional way.
No image of mine, but here's the video:
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Apr 20, 2017 10:48:43 GMT -5
Oof. Grilled grilled cheese sounds exhausting. Definitely seems more like a cheeky "I see what you did there" sort of thing rather than an actually functional recipe. But I admire that you tried it, even if not entirely to the specifications of the absurd written instructions!
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Post by LazBro on Jun 15, 2017 10:27:27 GMT -5
#20 - Greek Chicken SaladI've been cooking a lot heavy stuff lately, so when I saw an opportunity to whip up a healthy version of chicken salad and finally return to my project, I had to go for it. Plus, I had half a block of feta on hand - it's one of the few "fancy" cheeses we like that Mrs. Snape can eat right now - so really any recipe that uses feta is a winner for me. And a winner it is. Alton Brown's Greek chicken salad ditches the mayonnaise in favor of plain Greek yogurt, which is a tactic I've declared to be unsatisfactory in the past. But here the base is amped up with so many strong secondary flavors that it really delivers. Take your base of yogurt and add chunks of white meat chicken (or leftover rotisserie chicken), chopped red onion, chopped kalamata olives, chunked feta cheese, chopped tomatoes, chopped flat leaf parsley, lemon juice, salt, pepper and thyme. The recipe also calls for chopped celery, because for some reason people like to ruin meat salads with celery ... I dunno, I left it out. Give'er a mix then let sit in the fridge for at least an hour and up to 3 days. The recipe calls for it to be served in warm pita pockets, but I already had loaf bread on hand and didn't want to buy yet another type of bread, so instead I sliced up and toasted some bread and made fancy toasts. A little peppery arugula to give it some more nutrition. If you like that pungent, acidic punch of ingredients like feta, kalamata olives, and lemon juice, then this salad is for you. Bright and light, but satisfying too. I served 3 toasts each for Mrs. Snape and me, and I probably could have doubled my own order. They were great. Image below. On the side... #21 - Savory Greek Yogurt DipSo the recipe above was Greek, because of the flavors. For this one the Greek refers only to the style of the yogurt. Real simple, mix plain Greek yogurt with lemon zest, flat leaf parsley, salt, pepper and either cumin or smoked paprika. I went with the smoked paprika, and then served it with carrot sticks, raw red and yellow bell peppers and raw cauliflower. I dunno. It's fine, but for me it lacked either a sweet element or a fat. It tasted good, but it wasn't satisfying. As I lamented in my link above, it tasted hollow. Honestly I just made this because so many ingredients overlapped with the recipe above, and I saw an easy opportunity to goose my numbers.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jun 19, 2017 11:42:28 GMT -5
This has me seriously feeling chicken salad right now! That sounds and looks fantastic! Of course, I do like celery in my meat salads, so I guess we'll never be able to picnic together.
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Post by LazBro on Aug 10, 2017 8:57:09 GMT -5
I admit my project has hit the skids. It's not that I don't like doing it - I do! - but when I return to the book to plan my next adventure, I find myself flipping idly through the pages, unimpressed by what I see. Tossing out the stuff I'm unlikely to ever make, such as seafood, cocktails and "snack" type food, I'm not left with many recipes that inspire me. Now challenged to avoid bread or unneeded carbs, the selection pool dwindles further. I've still got 3-4 I really should try, but I'm now wondering if I shouldn't change books and start again. Do something more focused and thematic. Anyway...
#22 - Salisbury Steak Salisbury steak is not a hip dish. I'm not sure I've ever had it, or even seen it, outside of a school cafeteria or frozen dinner. But in its provenance it's surprisingly on trend. Invented by physician James Henry Salisbury in the late 1800's, salisbury steak is one of the earliest dishes specifically engineered to promote a high-protein, low-carb diet for weight management. The dude might have been a cuckoo clock (what 1800's doctor wasn't?), but he beat Dr. Atkins by a full 70 years. (Though, ironically, the archetypal salisbury steak side dishes are mashed potatoes and pasta, which piss all over the good doctor's intentions).
To modern palates, salisbury steak carries the reputation of cheap, unrefined, low-class food. It's something you pull from the freezer after a hard day, not something you spend an hour of chopping, mixing, dredging, sauteeing and reducing to create. But Alton Brown asks, what if? What if you used high-quality meat, rethought the sauce and upped the vegetation (if only slightly)? What if you made it something to look forward to all day?
Well ... I couldn't tell you, because I failed. Or the recipe failed. I'm not sure. Alright, enough delay, let's talk about this thing:
Mix and season the highest quality 90/10 ground beef you can get, then form oblong patties and coat them in a thin dredge of AP flour and milk powder. Yep, I had to buy milk powder for this. Meanwhile, sautee diced onions in clarified butter. Once brown, bring on chopped cremini mushrooms, again cooking to brown and reduce. Remove the veg, add more butter, and sautee the beef patties on both sides until browned. You can go hot, because the goal is not to cook them through, just brown them off. Once brown, add the veg back to the pan, and then add a liquid base of milk, red wine and the flavoring packet from a package of beef ramen. Yep. Cover and cook on medium to thicken the sauce and cook the steaks through. That's it.
As I read through the recipe, I looked for a catch. I thought ... acid from the wine, not a lot of fat, relatively high heat ... the milk could break. The milk did break. Instead of the luscious, burgundy red sauce I saw in the book, I had a broken oil slick with a few chop steaks swimming in it. But what's done is done, and dinner needs serving, so I moved forward. I dished up the steaks using a slotted spatula to get the mushrooms and onions while leaving the sauce behind.
And you know what? They were good. Despite the simple ingredient list, the steaks did take on some flavor beyond ground beef. Earthiness from the mushrooms and red wine, sweetness from the onion, and an immense beefiness maybe nudged along by the flavor packet. It was a failure - without the gravy can you even call it salisbury steak? - but it was surprisingly good eating. I'd like to try the recipe again with maybe a little cream subbing in for the milk. The extra fat should help keep things together. I'd probably also bring on some more flavor: herbs, Worcestershire, garlic, lots of options.
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Post by pairesta on Aug 10, 2017 9:00:26 GMT -5
Man that recipe sounds kinda gross. I'd think either reducing the wine or the milk first would offset its chances of breaking, but all at once?
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Post by LazBro on Aug 10, 2017 9:06:10 GMT -5
Man that recipe sounds kinda gross. I'd think either reducing the wine or the milk first would offset its chances of breaking, but all at once? Yep. It instructs the cook to mix the milk, wine and ramen packet together and add all at once. I'm not a cooking expert, but I knew enough to look at this recipe and realize that it lived on a razor's edge. This time, I got cut. I mean conceptually I love this: steak covered in a creamy red wine and mushroom sauce. Yes please. But I think if I'd just conceived of the idea and set about making it from scratch, I would have been more successful. Irony.
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Post by Smacks on Aug 10, 2017 12:17:19 GMT -5
I admit my project has hit the skids. It's not that I don't like doing it - I do! - but when I return to the book to plan my next adventure, I find myself flipping idly through the pages, unimpressed by what I see. Tossing out the stuff I'm unlikely to ever make, such as seafood, cocktails and "snack" type food, I'm not left with many recipes that inspire me. Now challenged to avoid bread or unneeded carbs, the selection pool dwindles further. I've still got 3-4 I really should try, but I'm now wondering if I shouldn't change books and start again. Do something more focused and thematic. Anyway... #22 - Salisbury SteakSalisbury steak is not a hip dish. I'm not sure I've ever had it, or even seen it, outside of a school cafeteria or frozen dinner. But in its provenance it's surprisingly on trend. Invented by physician James Henry Salisbury in the late 1800's, salisbury steak is one of the earliest dishes specifically engineered to promote a high-protein, low-carb diet for weight management. The dude might have been a cuckoo clock (what 1800's doctor wasn't?), but he beat Dr. Atkins by a full 70 years. (Though, ironically, the archetypal salisbury steak side dishes are mashed potatoes and pasta, which piss all over the good doctor's intentions). To modern palates, salisbury steak carries the reputation of cheap, unrefined, low-class food. It's something you pull from the freezer after a hard day, not something you spend an hour of chopping, mixing, dredging, sauteeing and reducing to create. But Alton Brown asks, what if? What if you used high-quality meat, rethought the sauce and upped the vegetation (if only slightly)? What if you made it something to look forward to all day? Well ... I couldn't tell you, because I failed. Or the recipe failed. I'm not sure. Alright, enough delay, let's talk about this thing: Mix and season the highest quality 90/10 ground beef you can get, then form oblong patties and coat them in a thin dredge of AP flour and milk powder. Yep, I had to buy milk powder for this. Meanwhile, sautee diced onions in clarified butter. Once brown, bring on chopped cremini mushrooms, again cooking to brown and reduce. Remove the veg, add more butter, and sautee the beef patties on both sides until browned. You can go hot, because the goal is not to cook them through, just brown them off. Once brown, add the veg back to the pan, and then add a liquid base of milk, red wine and the flavoring packet from a package of beef ramen. Yep. Cover and cook on medium to thicken the sauce and cook the steaks through. That's it. As I read through the recipe, I looked for a catch. I thought ... acid from the wine, not a lot of fat, relatively high heat ... the milk could break. The milk did break. Instead of the luscious, burgundy red sauce I saw in the book, I had a broken oil slick with a few chop steaks swimming in it. But what's done is done, and dinner needs serving, so I moved forward. I dished up the steaks using a slotted spatula to get the mushrooms and onions while leaving the sauce behind. And you know what? They were good. Despite the simple ingredient list, the steaks did take on some flavor beyond ground beef. Earthiness from the mushrooms and red wine, sweetness from the onion, and an immense beefiness maybe nudged along by the flavor packet. It was a failure - without the gravy can you even call it salisbury steak? - but it was surprisingly good eating. I'd like to try the recipe again with maybe a little cream subbing in for the milk. The extra fat should help keep things together. I'd probably also bring on some more flavor: herbs, Worcestershire, garlic, lots of options. No picture this time. I was excited since you said salisbury steak.....red meat and mushrooms are two of my favorite things outside of my usual veggie obsession. I don't think I've ever had a homemade version but it was a favorite comfort food as a kid. I'm not sure how you brought yourself to cook with ramen seasoning. Something about it frightens me. Anyways, it sounds like there's a lot of good here, we just need to figure out how to make it work. I'm going to look around at some recipes. I think a good solid gourmet salisbury steak is in order. I cook exactly like you do, look at a few recipes and then go forward on my own. I'm going to put some work into this.
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Post by LazBro on Dec 11, 2017 16:07:42 GMT -5
#23 - General's Fried Chicken
(Because generals are better than colonels ... right? I mean, you get it? I wonder if Alton is even aware he's borrowing a joke from the iconic 2002 Eddie Griffin vehicle Undercover Brother.) I rarely deep fry chicken. I love deep fried chicken, because who doesn't, and I can deep fry a mean bird. But it's a mess, and it's a hassle, and it stinks, and the reasons not to really stack up. Further exacerbating my hesitation is the fact that I live 20 minutes away from some of the best fried chicken you or me or anyone will ever eat. But these last months I've felt bad about letting my column fall into disrepair, especially when there are still plenty of recipes in this book I'd like to make. How'd we do this time? Good. Very good. General's Fried Chicken differs from your standard fried chicken recipe in a couple ways: 1) no extended buttermilk soak, and 2) very few spices. Alton uses nothing more than salt, garlic powder and sumac, which he sprinkles on the chicken before treating it to an 8 hour air dry in the fridge. No 24-hour buttermilk bath. After the dry brine, buttermilk finally enters the party, but he adds a single egg and ... good southern boy that he is ... bourbon to the soak. Dip in the liquid mix, then immediately into a combo of AP flour and corn starch. He takes this step to task. The typical shake or dredge is not enough. Instead he demands you get both hands in there and really "jujj" the flour onto the chicken, really work it in. Then, lay it out on a rack and give it at least a 15 minute rest (and up to an hour!) before hitting the fryer. The rest is standard fried chicken procedure: don't over stuff the fryer, and don't let your temp get too low. For all its idiosyncrasies, the ultimate result was ... fried chicken. Beautifully crunchy and moist, if maybe a bit lacking in salt, but definitely satisfying. If there's a difference between a 24-hour soak in buttermilk, and a 10-second skinny dip in it, I suddenly don't know what it is. Will I make it this way again? Eh, maybe, but even if it's not worse, it's not better either. Instead I'll probably do what I've always done when it comes to fried chicken: whatever I want. Whatever spices look good at the time, whatever brine I have to drop it in, whatever parts I have on hand, that's the fried chicken I'll make. Fried chicken isn't a recipe, it's an ethos. (No image)
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Post by pairesta on Dec 11, 2017 16:46:02 GMT -5
#23 - General's Fried ChickenI rarely deep fry chicken. I love deep fried chicken, because who doesn't, and I can deep fry a mean bird. But it's a mess, and it's a hassle, and it stinks, and the reasons not to really stack up. Further exacerbating my hesitation is the fact that I live 20 minutes away from some of the best fried chicken you or me or anyone will ever eat. I only started frying chicken myself after I moved away from Babe's. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
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Post by LazBro on Dec 12, 2017 11:18:14 GMT -5
#23 - General's Fried ChickenI rarely deep fry chicken. I love deep fried chicken, because who doesn't, and I can deep fry a mean bird. But it's a mess, and it's a hassle, and it stinks, and the reasons not to really stack up. Further exacerbating my hesitation is the fact that I live 20 minutes away from some of the best fried chicken you or me or anyone will ever eat. I only started frying chicken myself after I moved away from Babe's. Coincidence? I THINK NOT. It's so true. Except for that rare craving to make my own traditional fried chicken, I'll pretty much stick to only doing it when I've got sauce in mind. Like Nashville Hot ... can't get that near my house outside of a KFC, and the one time I made it myself was pretty transcendent (if I do say so myself).
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Post by Baron von Costume on Dec 14, 2017 11:38:38 GMT -5
I only started frying chicken myself after I moved away from Babe's. Coincidence? I THINK NOT. It's so true. Except for that rare craving to make my own traditional fried chicken, I'll pretty much stick to only doing it when I've got sauce in mind. Like Nashville Hot ... can't get that near my house outside of a KFC, and the one time I made it myself was pretty transcendent (if I do say so myself). I am jealous of you folks that have even decent fried chicken. While there is good fried chicken here in town it's at fancy restaurants and of the "have one piece beautifully presented at a high price" variety. The one diner I know of that makes decent takeout fried chicken also charges an fortune for it. I fry chicken more than I would like as a result, especially since I still have no kitchen vent. Sigh... Hopefully the person with the popeye's franchise rights will get off their ass at least. Til then we're stuck with KFC and their no better local equivalent.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Dec 18, 2017 13:27:04 GMT -5
I just saw the discussion of salisbury steak - I also think the recipe is super fucking weird. Believe it or not, Rachael Ray's version is the one my mom uses and it's pretty good. I do believe Mom cuts the beef stock with red wine, though. There's no milk anywhere. It's simple, but surprisingly delicious.
I don't eat a lot of fried stuff in general, but we have Royal Farms in the Delmarva area and they're known for their fried chicken - but I think it's overpriced and not as good as Popeye's. At least it's on a lot of restaurant menus in Maryland, though, so you're likely to get good stuff when out and about.
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Post by fab on Apr 4, 2018 8:00:18 GMT -5
#3 - Heavenly Orbs of Belgian GoodnessRoasted Brussels sprouts. Look, they're not all going to be fancy. In fact, Alton profers two roasted sprouts recipes, including a bacon-maple combo that I have no doubt will be delicious, as it's that very combination that got me into Brussels sprouts in the first place. (And which, to be honest, I've done more than a couple times before). But it's this recipe that caught my eye. In place of more the more common sweet or citrus, we take the orbs East by dressing them with fish sauce, sesame oil, red pepper flake and roasted peanuts just as they come out of the oven. I liked it. It makes for a lighter side overall, which is nice, as many Brussels sprouts recipes work in so many calories along the way (<cough> bacon-maple <cough>) that what should be a really healthy side gets lost. This had tons of flavor, and you still felt good eating it. Tweaks: for a pound or so of sprouts, the dressing recipe is laughably small at only 1 tsp each of fish sauce and sesame oil. Strong flavors, I know, but it still struck me as inadequate. I doubled it and still could have gotten away with a little more. (not my image) thank fucking God. I've been eating far more boring ass Brussel sprouts than I'd like to admit lately, and plain roasted sprouts just suck. I've only had naturally sweet and crisp Brussel sprouts maybe once in my life, since maybe their freshness period is very short...? (I seem to recall my Opa mentioning something about how they're supposed to be picked right after they're hit with the first frost. maybe that's peak freshness, not sure.) I'm also a fan of the bacon-maple brussel sprouts doctoring, but that's also due to anything bacon maple being pretty damn good to begin with, so colour me intrigued! also this is a good thread and I will possibly get a copy of this book b/c your writeups are very entertaining. I fully expect to fuck up a bunch of these recipes due to overlooking critical details somehow, as I do a very half-assed variant of mise en place and usually mess up my timing slightly and end up a bit scatterbrained. also, I seem to have got here via a link from your other, more current thread, so... hooray!
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Post by LazBro on Apr 6, 2018 9:02:02 GMT -5
#3 - Heavenly Orbs of Belgian GoodnessRoasted Brussels sprouts. Look, they're not all going to be fancy. In fact, Alton profers two roasted sprouts recipes, including a bacon-maple combo that I have no doubt will be delicious, as it's that very combination that got me into Brussels sprouts in the first place. (And which, to be honest, I've done more than a couple times before). But it's this recipe that caught my eye. In place of more the more common sweet or citrus, we take the orbs East by dressing them with fish sauce, sesame oil, red pepper flake and roasted peanuts just as they come out of the oven. I liked it. It makes for a lighter side overall, which is nice, as many Brussels sprouts recipes work in so many calories along the way (<cough> bacon-maple <cough>) that what should be a really healthy side gets lost. This had tons of flavor, and you still felt good eating it. Tweaks: for a pound or so of sprouts, the dressing recipe is laughably small at only 1 tsp each of fish sauce and sesame oil. Strong flavors, I know, but it still struck me as inadequate. I doubled it and still could have gotten away with a little more. thank fucking God. I've been eating far more boring ass Brussel sprouts than I'd like to admit lately, and plain roasted sprouts just suck. I've only had naturally sweet and crisp Brussel sprouts maybe once in my life, since maybe their freshness period is very short...? (I seem to recall my Opa mentioning something about how they're supposed to be picked right after they're hit with the first frost. maybe that's peak freshness, not sure.) I'm also a fan of the bacon-maple brussel sprouts doctoring, but that's also due to anything bacon maple being pretty damn good to begin with, so colour me intrigued! also this is a good thread and I will possibly get a copy of this book b/c your writeups are very entertaining. I fully expect to fuck up a bunch of these recipes due to overlooking critical details somehow, as I do a very half-assed variant of mise en place and usually mess up my timing slightly and end up a bit scatterbrained. also, I seem to have got here via a link from your other, more current thread, so... hooray! Thanks. It's a bit tedious, but one trick to crispier, tastier Brussels sprouts is to individually place each sprout on the sheet tray, cut side (flat side) down, to maximize caramelization. I'm glad you dig the series. I will say, of the two books I've tackled so far, I recommend the Smitten Kitchen book over this one. Though it pains me to say, because Alton is muh boi.
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