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Post by Not a real doctor on Jul 12, 2017 18:57:39 GMT -5
Elder dad-rock statesman, runner-up in the pantheon of rock and roller superstars, sometime actor, voiceover specialist, frontman of one of the tightest live acts around, tophat aficionado, and subject of one of the greatest memes ever, I say to you: Would you ask tom Petty that? After breaking into the Gainesville FL college scene, and subsequently migrating westward, Tom Petty has put out some consistently catchy, jangly, and at times very meaningful songs. But there’s the catch: He puts out good songs, hell, even great songs, but they’re rarely, or never on beginning to end great albums. I’ve been a longtime, bigtime Petty fan so let’s take a walk through the discography and see what sonic chaff surrounds your Refugees and your American girls and your Learning to flys, your Free fallins, and your You don’t know how it feels. I’ll be including the albums with the full Heartbreakers lineup, the solo albums, and as appendices, the newer albums released with his old band Mudcrutch, notable collaborations, as well as a foray into massively disappointing supergroups with the Traveling Wilburys. I’m leaving off the two live collections (1985’s Pack up the Plantation and the excellent “Live anthology) but I’ll reference any notable live versions when I cover the studio tracks. I’m going to try to do one of these per week but no guarantees are included or implied. These will be much more in the vein of reactions and random musings on the tracks rather than any substantive musical criticism but, enjoy!(?)
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jul 12, 2017 19:03:06 GMT -5
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Released in November 1976, the album was basically a dud stateside but gained traction in the UK where “Anything that’s rock and roll” charted. After a 1978 re-release in the states following a UK tour, “Breakdown” made it to #40 in the US. This is a fun, punky album of super-short songs with a couple of standout singles (Breakdown, American Girl) that I think holds up well to repeat listenings. Youtube playlistTracks: Rockin around with you: What I’d call a “teenager song” (there’s lots of these in the early Petty ouvre). All about young romances and rockin’ out with somebody cool. Some fun harmonizing on this one. Like a lot of songs on this album, it sort of runs out of lyrical steam and fades out at the ~2.5 minute mark. Breakdown: Like the album opener, only a couple verses in this one but they’re all it needs. Delightfully moody it sneers away with that cockiness of having someone in your thrall and really. fucking. knowing it. That’s right baby, go ahead and give it to me. Hometown Blues: This one’s a “meh” for me. It doesn’t cover any ground that isn’t better done with the album opener “Anything that’s Rock and Roll.” It’s bouncy, so I’ll give it that. The Wild One, Forever: My personal favorite on the album. Acoustic guitar and some wonderful harmony vocals from big Stan Lynch. A wonderfully dramatic song of a young person that understands things about you that no one else possibly could. Fun fact: this one was rarely done live because it apparently absolutely shredded Petty and Lynch’s throats. Anything that’s Rock and Roll: A fun song about rock and roll and rockin’ out with your best leather jacket on, hangin’s out with other young ruffians and stickin’ it to your uptight bossman. More quality harmonies from Benmont Tench, Stan Lynch, and the bet-looking Heartbreaker: Ron Blair. This one gets your head moving, kids. Strangered in the Night: Not a favorite here. The spoken-word story lyrics aren’t so great. This one’s definitely filler. Fooled Again (I don’t like it): A much stronger track than the previous. We’ve shed some Breakdown’s cockiness and slid fully into that angst of “maybe, just maybe you ain’t got her so wrapped up after all…” Some very fun live versions out there with an extended Mike Campbell intro that show just how good this band was as a band from very early on. This one bubbles under the surface in just the right way, cause we need to know if you’ve got a number two and it’s gonna keep us up at night until we figure it out. Mystery man: Let’s put on our cutoffs and a tanktop since it’s swampy as hell, put a buck or two in the Monte Carlo and go see what we can get ourselves into. This one’s more in line with Breakdown but we haven’t reeled anyone in just yet with our moody angst but damnit we’re going to. A little country inspiration here on some Mike Campbell solos. Luna: Another one in the “not a favorite” category. More mood than anything, it’s not bad, but it’s not good. Delves a bit into “mystical/nonsensical” lyrics that are similar to but opposite what I don’t care for on “Strangered in the Night” American Girl: Just, a solid 24 carat gold rock and roll song. Ringing guitars, driving beat, shoutable chorus, and a solo that sets the world on fire. Closing thoughts: A great freshman outing with some real potential here playing some good old rock and/or roll. Stick around for the sophomore followup "You're gonna get it."
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Post by songstarliner on Jul 12, 2017 20:09:39 GMT -5
True story: I was listening to Tom Petty tonight, and then I came back here, and then I saw this and was like, 'Huh. Tom Petty!' Love him.
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Post by Prole Hole on Jul 13, 2017 5:25:27 GMT -5
Hey I like the Traveling Wilbury's! But anyway, very happy to see this here. Looking forward to more, Not a real doctor!
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Post by Incense on Jul 13, 2017 8:10:13 GMT -5
Hey I like the Traveling Wilbury's! But anyway, very happy to see this here. Looking forward to more, Not a real doctor ! I like them too. I enjoyed both of those albums. And I've been interested in Tom Petty's discography for a while. Maybe I'll follow along in your wake, Not a real doctor.
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Post by ganews on Jul 13, 2017 8:13:38 GMT -5
Awesome! I was one thinking about doing this one myself. I'm only disappointed I'm too busy to listen to them all at the same time as you.
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Post by Smacks on Jul 13, 2017 10:38:20 GMT -5
Big Tom Petty fan here as well. I've been known to tell people that "Tom Petty knows everything there is to know about love". Honestly, he has a song for almost any relationship situation you can imagine. He's the King.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jul 18, 2017 14:01:13 GMT -5
Still slaving over my hot hot review of You're Gonna Get It (which, btw, is one of my faves) but this morning while dropping off a uhaul trailer at an auto repair shop, the classic rock station was playing a double shot of Petty on what appeared to be some sort of "Twofer Tuesday." It pleased me greatly.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jul 25, 2017 9:27:22 GMT -5
You’re Gonna Get It A solid sophomore effort here. Despite the boys in the band having decamped to California before recording the first album, this one still sounds like “Florida.” Specifically, that kind of hot, stagnant heat that falls down in the middle of the night when there’s no stars and the air fels so damn thick it’s like nothing can move. I’m originally from southern Ohio but I remember those nights when I’d get off my second shift job at the garden center and the heat coming back up from the parking lot combined with the water from the sprinklers to make a fog that I swear you could feel filling your lungs. Released in 1978, the album charted at 23 on the Billboard and yielded two charting singles “I need to Know” (#41) and the live-opener staple “Listen to her heart” (59). The former being ably covered by Stevie Nicks in a number of live shows. This was the last album produced by Denny Cordell and the switch to Jimmy Iovine for the next album would put into motion some eventual lineup changes but more on that later. Guys, this album sounds fucking fantastic. Dark and moody with thatdesperate southern late-night edge not yet filed down by the sunny left coast. It wasn’t as critically well-regarded as the first album but it’s one of my favorites from the canon. It has some songs that definitely read as holdovers from the first album, some peeks into what would be on the breakout followup Damn the Torpedoes, and a little bit of what I think would come around even later on Southern Accents and even into Wildflowers. Youtube link (sorry it has a couple live versions of tracks)When the Time comes: It has the near full-band harmonies common on the first album but with a definitely poppier note than anything from that outing. It’s okay, but drop this one in the fairly interchangeable “driving songs” folder. You’re Gonna Get It: Highly reminiscent of the first album, particularly Fooled Again. It’s got great mood, a few fabulous breakdowns, and all those young, confused, hurt feelings that you find in Petty’s best songs. Hurt: Sonically very similar to the album opener. Not a favorite, it has the quasi-spoken word verses with a decent chorus. Magnolia: One of my favorites on the album. A hot southern night song that just drips with angsty, sweaty, horny heartbreak. This one would have fit perfectly on the first album, it’s a Florida song. Too Much Ain’t Enough: A red hot leather-jacket rocker. Not much lyrically/thematically going on here outside of the “probably shouldn’t have messed with me” strain that runs through the rest of the album. I Need to Know: This is probably the first song on the album that I think points to what we’d see on the next album. It’s still a million mile an hour rocker with a bratty heartbreak theme, but it’s getting into some much cleaner lyrical territory than we’ve seen on anything else so far. Listen to Her Heart: Longtime live show opener and maybe the best song on the album. Awash in that ringing guitar sound that’s long been associated with the band, and some great lyrics. Awesome harmonies from big Stan Lynch on this one also. No Second Thought: This one is unlike anything we’ve heard before but we’ll see stuff in this vein pop up from time to time as we move forward. What else to say other than “I like it.” Restless: Another dirty, late-night favorite. Put this one on in the Firebird before Magnolia and you’re squarely on your way to a fun night of the whiskey sweats. Could have definitely been on the first album but I don’t care, I still love it. Baby’s a rock and Roller: I just can’t get on board with this one. Pull Casa Dega from the Damn the Torpedoes outtakes and close the album with that one. It’d fit better. Next up: The guys break out and get allllllll the songs on the radio with "Damn the Torpedoes" but some cracks in the lineup begin to appear.
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Post by Smacks on Jul 28, 2017 10:46:21 GMT -5
Dang, I'm at work and I can't queue this album up just yet. I'm mostly unfamiliar with this album, other than "I Need to Know" and "Listen To Her Heart" but what great songs those are. The man knows how to put emotion in a lil' rock ditty and make it so, so relatable. I am betting this whole album really deserves a listen. I must say, I'm pretty excited for Damn the Torpedoes, but REALLY excited for Wildflowers, which for various reasons is a very important album to me. I'll be dissecting that one track-for-track with ya.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Aug 5, 2017 13:12:23 GMT -5
Damn the Torpedoes Really the band’s breakout album hitting #2 on the US charts and a goddamn pure rock and roller. Released in 1979 with mega-producer (right?) Jimmy Iovine taking over duties from Denny Cordel,l and sonically, it’s a huge leap from the band’s previous two albums. This one was mired in legal troubles as Petty tried to extricate himself from the type of bad contract signed by (apparently) so many young musicians that had robbed him of the ability to really make any money from his songs. Yielding three charting singles, this one is a high water mark for the band. If you haven't watched the excellent Peter Bogdanovich doc Runnin down a dream, do it. The strife that started to appear in the band between big Stan Lynch and Iovine and the stress that caused poor gorgeous Ron Blair eventually culminating in him leaving to sell swimwear (!) is heartbreaking. Youtube Album linkRefugee: Bratty lyrics, those Benmont Tench organ stabs, white hot Mike Campbell licks. This one just drives all the way through and that build at the end of the bridge? Fuckin’ goosebumps but you gotta play it loud! Also featuring a delightful " When music videos were just lipsynching" outing. Here Comes My Girl: An example of getting “spoken word” verses right. That 12 string rings like the Byrds. If you don’t love this one, I’ll fight you. Even the losers: Maybe the greatest example of what I always thought made Petty a great songwriter. That ability to achieve such universality and make something where anyone can look at it and say “oh yeah, that one’s about me.” Shadow of a Doubt (A Complex Kid): Not one of my favorites, this one revisits the “everybody thinks my baby ain’t no good” well from the earlier albums but in the new Petty sound. Is this the first time we’ve added bongos? I’ll never turn it off when it comes around. Fun live version Century City: This sounds like something that we’ll hear on next Long After Dark. I don’t dislike it, but it’s not a favorite. The kind of fast mover you play when you’re driving 100 in the convertible to go see your lawyer-man. Don’t do me like that: I have a shameful confession to make: I don’t really like this song very much ☹ Lyrically, it’s good, but that piano line just doesn’t do it for me. It’s probably my biggest failure as a Tom Petty fan You Tell Me: Classic Petty themes here, but done in the new sound. Tom Petty breakup songs are the best songs and this one doesn’t disappoint. More of that universality that makes so many of his songs timeless. Who hasn’t been on the other end of something unrequited that curdles from heartbreak into resentment? What are You Doin’ In My Life: What a fun rocker. Like Century City, this one is a damn rocket ship. Louisiana Rain: A delve into a much more country sound and I love it. Some great mournful lyrical picture painting going on here. And the damn thing sounds fantastic to boot. Next up: Stevie Nicks duets!!!!!
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Post by ganews on Aug 5, 2017 18:20:14 GMT -5
Don’t do me like that: I have a shameful confession to make: I don’t really like this song very much ☹ Lyrically, it’s good, but that piano line just doesn’t do it for me. It’s probably my biggest failure as a Tom Petty fan It's in the bottom half of his hits for me as well, for opposite reasons. I don't think much of the lyrics (though they do stick in the head like all Tom Petty lyrics), but I can never find total fault in a rock song that uses the organ. Even ballpark organ like this one.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Sept 10, 2017 17:10:16 GMT -5
I haven't quit, but between moving and work starting back up, I'm kind of in the weeds. HOWEVER! Next up we have Hard Promises which is high in the running for my personal favorite Petty album So, in the interim, I leave you with this little bit of pop perfection:
(You thought it was gonna be The Waiting didn't you? It's alright, you can tell me, I won't make it awkward).
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Post by ganews on Oct 2, 2017 14:20:03 GMT -5
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Post by Incense on Oct 2, 2017 15:33:01 GMT -5
I knew I should have gone to his show earlier this year. I figured there would be another soon enough.
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Oct 2, 2017 15:46:37 GMT -5
My friend Suz just told me about it and I shrieked "what the FUCK?" right here in my office because I was so surprised. Goddamn it. He was only 3 years older than my dad.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Oct 2, 2017 16:12:19 GMT -5
I saw the news a little earlier and 66 is damn young. I'm really glad I made the effort to go see him this summer and shelled out for the expensive tickets.
God fucking damnit
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Post by pairesta on Oct 2, 2017 17:44:04 GMT -5
Oof what a horrible day. This is hitting me alot harder than I thought it would. Shit shit shit.
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 2, 2017 17:49:56 GMT -5
66. I can't even believe it.
As soon as I heard, I texted my dad, who's a huge Petty fan ... and is 72. Fuuuuuuuck.
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 2, 2017 17:53:16 GMT -5
Not a real doctor I hope you find the time to keep writing these ... like Smacks I was looking forward to Wildflowers, because it's a timeless, fantastic record, and also hugely important to me personally. Legit crying now - what a sad day.
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Post by Smacks on Oct 3, 2017 7:39:09 GMT -5
Not a real doctor I hope you find the time to keep writing these ... like Smacks I was looking forward to Wildflowers, because it's a timeless, fantastic record, and also hugely important to me personally. Legit crying now - what a sad day.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Oct 3, 2017 19:43:31 GMT -5
Hard Promises (1981) It’s with a heavy heart that I got around to finishing this particular entry after Tom Petty’s passing. I’m not going to dwell on it much here other than to share something that a musician friend of mine said that I think is an elegant summation of how Tom Petty’s body of work has made so many of us feel: Maybe it’s good that today’s outing is maybe my favorite Tom Petty record. Coming on the heels of the more widely praised and remembered Torpedoes, I think Hard Promises sees a continuation of that sound but with a pop sensibility that I think fits the Tom and the boys well. The band had better chart success with the non-Heartbreakers album Stevie Nick duet Stop draggin my heart around which, don’t get me wrong, is great. But, the number that went on the Heratbreakers album is one of those songs that made Tom Petty what he was. If you can’t relate to the raw emotion on Insider then you’ve probably never been in love. The album hit #5 on the charts, sent an great lead-off single into the #1 spot on the rock charts, and gave us the all-time great line “yeah when I get real bored, I might have a little smooooooke,” so let’s get into it. Youtube linkTracks The Waiting: Starting off with that wonderful riff and one of the best opeining lyrics in Rock and Roll. This album, to me, is about love in all its glory and its sadness and this one does a wonderful job of conveying the hopeless, wanting, yearning phase where “I’ll be your bleeding heart, I’ll be your crying fool.” Like the rest of the album, fabulous drumming from big Stan Lynch. So fuckin' cool:
A woman in love (it’s not me): The verses in this one are the highlight. Quiet but not spoken, they really get at that late at night, wondering what that person you can’t get over is doing. Knowing they’re out there doing something, knowing you could be doing it better, but also being grown up enough to resign yourself to knowing that there’s not a godamn thing you can can do about it because “Well alright, do what you want…” When people talk about Petty’s music capturing universal feelings, I think of the plaintive wail he hits as he sings “I don’t understand the world today, I don’t understand what she needed” and how there’s not a person out there who hasn’t felt that hopelessness of something slipping away and knowing you did something wrong that you never even knew was wrong. He may have given “her” lots, but he didn’t give her everything she needed, and he knows it, even as he’s trying to convince himself otherwise. Night watchman: What a fun song. This has so much of that Wooderson “you know, working for the city, money in my pocket” layback that strivers like me could never pull off. Cause baby, I ain’t a loser, I can be anything you need me to be. Also, great percussion. Something Big: One of those sweaty night, noir songs that made up a big chunk of the early records. The night watchman isn’t just some sort of rent-a-cop, he’s got things going for him, just wait and see. Kings Road: A straight-ahead rocker, good driving song, very sumer-y (which isn’t something I’d say about many Petty songs except maybe Even the Losers). Letting You Go: Oh man, what a great early-stage breakup song. Such an easy, soft-sounding song with great little organ fills that does a wonderful job of being so self-aware about not being over someone and knowing you can’t do anything about it. Thing About You: I love the way this one jumps straight out of the gate at a million miles an hour after the easygoing Letting you go. What a great song that captures the wild, can’t sleep feeling of infatuation. Insider: The superior song of the two Petty-Nicks duets. This one so well captures the feeling of someone else moving on when you can’t. Knowing you weren’t good enough, seeing them with someone else, knowing they’re better off, and knowing the only thing you’ll ever be able to do is learn to live with it. The last vrse just gives me chills as it builds from the quiet world of white and gold through “I’m the one you couldn’t love.” Not “didn’t” but “couldn’t” which is just so, so much worse. Criminal Kind: They don’t have much more swagger than this. Another song that could have been on one of the earlier albums. You know they’re no good for you but damned if you can’t get them out of your mind. You Can Still Change Your Mind: As a followup to Insider, this one’s heartbreaking. You know they’ve moved on, but that pathetic part of you still holds onto hope even as you know it’s hopeless. It’s a good thing Criminal Kind is between these two or this album would close out on me as a blubbering godamn mess. “Just hold tight, everything is gonna be alright”
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Post by Not a real doctor on Oct 3, 2017 19:46:36 GMT -5
While looking around for videos I'll be damned if this one didn't choke me up. This summer's tour was a good one; I saw some songs live that I never thought I'd see but I also never for the world thought it'd be the last time I ever got to see a man who could make magic.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Oct 24, 2017 10:54:01 GMT -5
One of the best of the "late career" TPHB songs:
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Post by ganews on Dec 17, 2017 20:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by Not a real doctor on Dec 17, 2017 20:23:14 GMT -5
We will. Semester's not over just yet (damn early thanksgiving means three weeks of classes after the break so we're just now getting into finals week). Because up next: the boys take their synthesizer to the MTV!
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Post by ArchieLeach on Dec 18, 2017 17:06:43 GMT -5
In the spirit of the season - written on a ukulele gifted by George Harrison:
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jan 5, 2018 9:50:17 GMT -5
Long After Dark (1982) Ah yes, the first big synth album, Benmont’s time to shine! This one has a couple of standouts but it falls (for me) in an odd place in the discography. It doesn’t always seem as much like the next step in a progression from Hard Promises as it does a throwback to the more successful Damn the Torpedoes while also *sometimes* hinting at what was coming on Southern Accents. Also of note is the first lineup change in the band which saw bassist Ron Blair growing weary of the rock and roll lifestyle (and strife in the band seeming to largely be driven by producer Jimmy Iovine and drummer Stan Lynch being constantly at odds) leaving to run a swimsuit shop. Blair was replaced by Del Shannon’s touring bassist Howie Epstein who would stay with the band until his death in 2003 which brought Ron Blair back into the band. This album is probably most famous for being the Heartbreakers intro into the modern music video world. Previous videos had mostly centered around lip-synching in a standard “band formation” but You Got Lucky put the band into a Mad Max-esque post-apocalyptic video arcade while the actual song is mainly the background sound. The album itself charted to number 9 in the US and yielded two charting singles: You got lucky got to #1 on the US rock charts, 20 overall while Change of Heart climbed to 10 on the rock charts and 21 overall. So, like I said, not a fave, but not a bad album, so let’s take a look at its individual bits: Youtube playlist hereA One-Story Town: Soaring guitar sound, this one’s a driving song. You’ll hear Mike Campbell play like that again on Don Henley’s Boys of Summer. This one could have gone on Damn the Torpedoes easily. You Got Lucky: Is there a better kiss-off breakup song than this? I never thought I’d see this one live so I was pretty happy that it made it back into the lineup for the summer 2017 tour.
Deliver Me: Here we start a run of songs that I have some trouble differentiating between when I’m actually listening to them. This one has a great bridge “I never have made my mind up about it, I just decided, to let it all ride…” but is fairly nondescript otherwise. Change of Heart: See above. It’s a decent rocker but doesn’t stand out or stick in my head for very long. Finding Out: Next one in the row of uninspired rockers. Not bad, not good. We Stand a Chance: This is another young person’s song like we saw on the first couple of albums. A relationship is falling apart, but it doesn’t have to. Sonically, see the preceding three numbers. Straight into Darkness: The piano/cowbell intro to this one is worth the price of admission. Definitely check out the live versions out there.
The Same Old You: This one’s even more of a throwback but I think you can also see it as a preview for the “characters in a shitty southern town” storytelling that will come full circle on Southern Accents, but it also could have been on the second album. "David Bowie hair, platform shoes, partime job selling fast food" is a wonderfully derisive way to describe someone, isn't it? Between Two Worlds: This one leans into the more experimental sound that will be a little more fleshed out on the next album. Lyrically, its squarely in the “finding myself not fitting into this modern world” Petty canon. A Wasted Life: A nice, soft album closer. It doesn’t reach the heights of You can still change your mind but it works well enough Next up: Horns, confederate flags, and dat video.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Feb 4, 2018 11:56:10 GMT -5
I was listening to the full concert in the background whilst doing some grading when this one came around. One of my favorite early album songs that wasn't done very often live:
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Post by Not a real doctor on Apr 11, 2018 8:14:10 GMT -5
I haven't quit doing this, I'm just swamped with work. So, in honor of the next upcoming entry, I love this song in all of its incarnations; from album rockers to slow live ruminations:
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