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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Feb 9, 2018 14:37:24 GMT -5
As someone who owned a copy of Tonight The Stars Revolt as a teenager, let me be the first to say no, what the fuck?, and no. Oh don't misunderstand, they're both dumb butt rock, but Rob Zombie's stuff is indubitably dumber--which I guess explains why things shook out as they did; Powerman 5000 is too dumb to be smart but not dumb enough to be dumb. You're greatly underestimating Rob Zombie's intelligence here. To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rob Zombie: the riffage is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of European folklore most of the lyrics will go over the typical listener's head... Kidding, of course. It's a matter of pretension: Rob Zombie isn't smart, and he knows it. He makes dumb music which has the self-awareness to recognize that it's dumb, as opposed to PM5K which is dumb music that thinks it's smart. Shit, just look at the album title: what kind of idiots name their album La Sexorcisto: Devil Music Volume One? The good kind of idiots. That's the big point in White Zombie's favor, in my opinion. They've got a sense of humor.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Feb 11, 2018 21:24:48 GMT -5
I'd never listened to a White Zombie album before. This album isn't terrible, there's some solid riffs and decent songs although the second half of the album is pretty dull, and there's really no reason for the sex noises to be there. Still, if this album were maybe 15-20 minutes shorter, and I'd first heard it when I was 15, it'd probably be the sort of thing that I looked back on fondly today and was even willing to defend. As it is, a lot of these songs in isolation would make for a reasonably enjoyable listening experience (which is more than I can say for basically any of the songs on the Avenged Sevenfold album that made the list), but listening to the whole album was a real slog.
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Feb 13, 2018 4:50:43 GMT -5
Oh don't misunderstand, they're both dumb butt rock, but Rob Zombie's stuff is indubitably dumber--which I guess explains why things shook out as they did; Powerman 5000 is too dumb to be smart but not dumb enough to be dumb. You're greatly underestimating Rob Zombie's intelligence here. To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rob Zombie: the riffage is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of European folklore most of the lyrics will go over the typical listener's head... Kidding, of course. It's a matter of pretension: Rob Zombie isn't smart, and he knows it. He makes dumb music which has the self-awareness to recognize that it's dumb, as opposed to PM5K which is dumb music that thinks it's smart. Shit, just look at the album title: what kind of idiots name their album La Sexorcisto: Devil Music Volume One? The good kind of idiots. That's the big point in White Zombie's favor, in my opinion. They've got a sense of humor. It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Feb 13, 2018 13:06:01 GMT -5
100. Avenged Sevenfold - City of Evil
Well, listened to this a few times now. Enjoyed the front end of it really quite a bit, but every time I put it on I'd pretty much stopped paying attention by about the half way mark and had to force myself to concentrate. It's a lot of fun, which is good because I'm keen on Metal being fun, and I'm sure that if it had been released when I was in my teens I'd have loved it and continue to love it to this day. However, I'm actually listening to it in my late thirties, so for me it's never going to be elevated beyond a level of being something to have on in the background when I'm doing something else. If I want to put on something that's fun and at the same time is ridiculously bloated rock-star excess then it's still going to be one of the Use Your Illusion albums for me. tl;dr version - this one goes up to about a 7 too. But an entirely different sort of 7 to La Sexorcisto.
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Feb 21, 2018 7:19:15 GMT -5
Dang, I have to play catch up. Evanescence - Meh. First off, I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of female vocalists. It hurts me to say that (especially cause I'm a singer myself) but I have a very narrow range of female singers that are enjoyable for me to listen to. Dorothea Cottrell is high on that list, but I digress. Going Under is a lot more listenable for me than Come To Life. It's possible that the latter suffers from the too much radio-play thing, where I just really don't want to ever hear it again. My Immortal is just pseudo-dramatic emo crap for teenage girls, I'd like to never hear it again thank you. I'm just skipping through songs now......they all sound the same. "My God, my tourniquet" The fuck is this even supposed to be about? Seems like lame goth-y buzzwords strung together for effect. Looked up the words........ew, don't do it. Is this Christian rock? Track 9 and her voice is really getting to me. In a bad way. I'm not saying she's not talented, I'm saying it is not pleasing to my ears. My Last Breath started out different which was quite promising but......here she is again and I can't do anymore. Tapping out. Goodbye, Evanescence. Forever. A7X deserved your slot on this list. Due to this comment, and partly to wash Evanescence (more on whom another time) out of my ears, I looked up Dorthia Cottrell and then listened to some Windhand last night. They sounded like Julie Driscoll, Hawkwind and Paradise Lost had all moved into a commune together. By which I mean it was fucking great, so thanks for that one Smacky.
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Post by monodrone on Feb 21, 2018 10:35:36 GMT -5
Dang, I have to play catch up. Evanescence - Meh. First off, I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of female vocalists. It hurts me to say that (especially cause I'm a singer myself) but I have a very narrow range of female singers that are enjoyable for me to listen to. Dorothea Cottrell is high on that list, but I digress. Going Under is a lot more listenable for me than Come To Life. It's possible that the latter suffers from the too much radio-play thing, where I just really don't want to ever hear it again. My Immortal is just pseudo-dramatic emo crap for teenage girls, I'd like to never hear it again thank you. I'm just skipping through songs now......they all sound the same. "My God, my tourniquet" The fuck is this even supposed to be about? Seems like lame goth-y buzzwords strung together for effect. Looked up the words........ew, don't do it. Is this Christian rock? Track 9 and her voice is really getting to me. In a bad way. I'm not saying she's not talented, I'm saying it is not pleasing to my ears. My Last Breath started out different which was quite promising but......here she is again and I can't do anymore. Tapping out. Goodbye, Evanescence. Forever. A7X deserved your slot on this list. Due to this comment, and partly to wash Evanescence (more on whom another time) out of my ears, I looked up Dorthia Cottrell and then listened to some Windhand last night. They sounded like Julie Driscoll, Hawkwind and Paradise Lost had all moved into a commune together. By which I mean it was fucking great, so thanks for that one Smacky. Yeah, Windhand are good.
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Post by fab on Feb 21, 2018 11:03:49 GMT -5
I managed to make it all the way through this album. Major-key black metal is weird. The whole thing manages to sound like Girl Talk did a mashup of some kinda 90s Smashing Pumpkins swirly wall-of-guitar rock and 1349. I doubt these guys are even screaming about Satan and burning churches and shit. "Sunbather" has a funny part that sounds like "There Goes My Hero". "Please Remember" is notable for ripping off The Steve Miller Band's "Threshold" and having a bit in the middle that sounds like Calexico. "Pecan Tree" has a pretty cool part that sounds like a 60s surf instrumental. On the whole, I found this pretty boring. so I forgot about this thread somehow but then saw that there were posts! so yay. let's tackle Sunbather. as someone who has a pretty big soft spot for the old Smashing Pumpkins stuff (especially the thick harmonic fuzz tone of the Siamese Dream era sound bleeding into Mellon Collie), happy go lucky brightness that isn't in the form of joyfully tarted up power metal makes very little sense to me. dream house -- generic and boring as hell. what is even going on here? irresistible -- I'm down with this. this is metal somehow though? it just sounds like melodic indie harmonization. nothing wrong with that, and I like it... I just don't see how it slots in on a metal record. shrug sunbather -- this is fine, but again... I just don't like unnecessary screams in lieu of vocals. raw vocals only really work for me as punctuation or exclamation. melodically, this just feels like another alt rock band. I'm fine with it, reasonably big drums and fun arena rock style riffs, but there's nothing in here that makes me think "why yes, this should be on someone's all time greatest metal albums list, for some reason" please remember - the fuck is this? ambient noise and some general delay on chord progressions? I'm thinking casual indifference is maybe the worst reaction I can have to someone's musical output, and we're fast approaching that point. vertigo - opening riff is solid enough. feels kinda proggy to a novice like myself. things go into full constant blastbeat (which is generally the least interesting kind of blastbeat) with yelpy screamies and nope. windows - turns out metal wasn't really missing out on layering in found sound recordings all these years. who would've thunk it. (this just makes me want to go listen to Giant Squid instead if I want something melodic-y with random clips interspersed with the track.) the pecan tree - I find myself skipping the generic noisy bits and moving on to the also kinda generic alt rock bridge-like breakdown sections? I prefer those to anything that might categorize this as metal. so... nope. just gonna assume that this band isn't for me. seems way too unfocused. there's something to be said for doing one thing really well, and hell... if they'd stuck to their guns and made an atmospheric lush sounding shoegaze-y indie alt rock instrumental album, I probably would've liked that. I don't know where the hell they're going with any of this, and it really isn't to my taste. (insert standard disclaimer that there's no accounting for taste.) it's fine. aggressively fine.
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Post by fab on Feb 21, 2018 11:13:32 GMT -5
I'm interested to see what you make of this, while it's on my mind. Not exactly black metal but major key metal with a few blasts in it: see, I like this! I'm not averse to major key stuff, although I wish the vocals were less chipper! it kinda ruins it a bit. fun blastbeasts and alternate picking riffs though, kinda reminds me of the stuff I like by Torche. not sure if I'd be as amenable to happy go lucky fun times tunes in a live setting, but for slightly off-kilter pop-infused metal (if that's a thing), I'd be hard-pressed to be annoyed by that. it's the kind of stuff I wish they would put on the radio, rather than the utter tripe we usually get. slap a more interesting vocalist who isn't just harmonizing through a filter or whatever is going on with that, and I'm in. it's not what I'd call memorable, but it is fun and chipper. perhaps I could use more upbeat ridiculousness in my life. I mean, the sheer bubbliness of the solo put a smile on my face, so that's something! I wouldn't necessarily go out of my way to listen to it, but it's pretty aight. I'll tackle that White Zombie album this afternoon. hopefully the horror movie samples aren't utter cheese...
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Post by monodrone on Mar 26, 2018 10:21:47 GMT -5
92. Eyehategod - Take As Needed For PainWho the heck are these chumps?Eyehategod more like EyethinkgodisfineassumingthereisagodwhichIdonotbutifyoudothatisfineitisnotanythingtodowithme. They're a sludge metal band from New Orleans, as you cool kids already knew. I've seen the name on a co-worker's t-shirt and he's generally got decent taste, plus at least one of these people is in Down who are GOOD so I've got a good feeling about this. The songs, are they good?Blank - squealing feedback. Throaty scream. This is my shit, right here. Good punchy opening salvo with the uptempo barrel roll riff and beat combo before the barrel smashes against a wall and everything slows the fuck down. The mid-song feedback squeal is great. The drug and alcohol referencing samples don't work for me. I'm all distracted by an annoying thing when I should be bathing in a warm sludge riff. Sister Fucker (Pt. I) - Yeah. YEAH. YEEEAAAAH. Reminds me a lot of things like Cavity's 1999 album, Supercollider which also featured a bunch of short and sharp songs like this. Obviously, I'm aware that this is likely an influence on them rather than the other way round but all I know is what I heard first. I really appreciate a band like this that can keep things brief, I know it's easy to get sucked into stretching ideas out into a string of 7 minute jams. Shop Lift - these bass intros are the kind of thing Nirvana were good at, thinking specifically of Dive. Does this mean Nirvana were sludge adjacent? Are Eyehategod just another Nirvana rip-off band like Puddle of Mudd or Creed? No. Obviously not. Get a grip. Anyway, cool Sabbath riff to round things off, lads. White Neighbour - another lumbering riff goes round and round for a few minutes and once again I bask in its glory. 30$ Bag - tempo shifts to die for. DOUBLE SPEED HALF SPEED NO SPEED FUCK. Disturbance - nap time. I say that but you'd probably have some messed up dreams if you had this on a loop while you slept. Maybe I'll try it some time (aside: I won't) Take As Needed For Pain - hey, that's the name of the album! This one hangs around a little too long for my liking and is a prime example of what I mentioned up in track 2 but then I'm not stoned right now so I'm not the target audience. Sister Fucker (Pt II) - they've got a thing that they do and it's good if you like it and if you don't you're probably incredibly bored by now. Crimes Against Skin - I forgot to make any notes here because I was doing 'some work' and like hell am I going back another almost 7 minute jam. Kill Your Boss - I don't think I could, he's a big guy. I like this song. Who Gave Her The Roses - wasn't me, pal. Good shouting here. Goooood shouting. Abrupt ending. What to heck? Laugh It Off - hahahaha. Weird way to close an album but I'll allow it. What d'ya make of it then?Sludge metal is cool as heck when it doesn't overstay its welcome and this is a fine example of it. The vocals are so gnarled and incomprehensible that I have no idea what's going on which I am all for. The drums sound appropriately huge, especially those deep toms and the guitar buzz is just what I'd hoped for going into it. Does it belong on the dang list? Should it be this high?It's not jumped stright to my number 1 top sludge metal album but it's good. Clearly it's been hugely influential as I hear aspects of a bunch of sludge bands that came in their wake in this which, again, I'm probably supposed to state the other way round but tough, I'm not going to. Unsane were robbed though, I'd have Occupational Hazard in a heartbeat over this if there could only be one sludge representative in this region of the list. Listen to Unsane, ya jabronis. Next up, at 91, Naked City - Torture Garden
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Post by monodrone on Mar 26, 2018 11:26:39 GMT -5
91. Naked City - Torture Garden you can look up the album cover if you want but it's potentially nsfw depending on how draconian yr work is.
Who the heck are these chumps? No idea. Apparently this is the brainchild of jazz composer John Zorn who got into 80s grindcore and decided to "test the limitations of a rock band format." I don't know what that means.
The songs, are they good? Blood Is Thin - opens with a pretty grungin' late 80s guitar riff then pops off into an energetic saxophone solo and a guitar solo Demon Sanctuary - surf guitar with blastbeats drifts in and out of smooth jazz for 40 seconds because sure, why not? Thrash Jazz Assassin - proto math-rock in the intro before the interchanging guitar/sax/keyboard squeals Dead Spot - I'm starting to see where Mike Patton got his ideas for Mr Bungle from. Bonehead - track 5 starts less than 3 minutes into the album. I just looked up the full track list and there are 42 of them with only 3 passing the full minute mark. This is 50 seconds of yelping and cool drums and annoying saxophones. Speedball - *shrug* Blood Duster - grindcore Pile Driver - grindcore + saxophone Shangkuan Ling-Feng - the cleanish 80s metal guitar tone isn't something I like anywhere, even on a mad shit grindcore jazz album Numbskull - meanwhile, the distorted guitar tone is rudimentary and sounds like it's coming from a casio keyboard or something. Perfume of a Critic's Burning Flesh - feedback leading to. Jazz Snob Eat Shit - more of the same but with rad bass playing this time The Prestigitator - back to the surf 'n' sax No Reason to Believe - like a Minutemen grindcore song
somewhere around here I lost track of which song I was on because it's not on Spotify and the youtube video of it that I found doesn't have timestamps on it and half the songs are 30 seconds or less so it was hard to keep up but it was mostly like what had come before but MORE.
The bit either side of the 10 minute point is good drum fills.
There's a track called Fuck The Facts which is cool because now I know how the grindcore band Fuck The Facts got their name. Fuck The Facts are decent.
What d'ya make of it then? Fuck knows. This is hard because I don't like saxophones outside of third-wave ska punk but I do like stupid music and this, with the choppy rhythms, style changes and nonsense vocals is fucking stupid. There's a track around the 18 minute mark that's a musical rendition of someone going through the fm radio dial of 1988 giving every genre a second before moving on and that's a neat idea but it's also a shit song. I'm interested in what's going on here from a 'let's burn down the idea of music' perspective and there are parts that made me laugh because something caught me by surprise but I will never listen to it again because I still like music and also I dislike the shitty guitar tones.
Does it belong on the dang list? Should it be this high? It's a jazz album, so no.
Next up, at 90, Body Count - Body Count
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Mar 26, 2018 12:26:27 GMT -5
I just lit a cigarette and now two turn up at once. Next up, at 90, Body Count - Body Count A few weeks ago, I wrote this: - I cannot and will not condone "skits" in a Metal album that is not Ænima.
I wish to retract this remark. On further consideration it should have read: - I cannot and will not condone "skits" in a Metal album that is not Ænima, Body Count or, let's just get it out of the way now as it's on the list a bit later on, River Runs Red.
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on Mar 28, 2018 9:46:50 GMT -5
92. Eyehategod - Take As Needed For Pain
Eyehatethisalbum.
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on Mar 28, 2018 9:48:30 GMT -5
91. Naked City - Torture Garden
I don't like jazz. I don't care much for most grindcore. Grindcore jazz fusion really isn't my bag.
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Apr 3, 2018 5:21:11 GMT -5
92. Eyehategod - Take as Needed for Pain
I thought this was rather good, but if I'm in the mood for New Orleans metal then I'd rather listen to Down.
91. Naked City - Torture Garden
I listened to about ten minutes of this then decided I'd got the general idea. It's not for me. Though my YouTube feed/queue is now full of videos taken at London BSDM-themed nightclub The Torture Garden, so it hasn't been a total loss.
Looking forward to Body Count (Body Count) yeeah motherfuckers!
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Post by monodrone on May 3, 2018 9:47:05 GMT -5
Hello. I've been on paternity leave and now I'm not so here's fucking Body Count. 90. Body Count - Body Count Who the heck are these chumps?Apparently the actor Ice T (you may recognise him from such things as Frankenpenis, Beef II and Law & Order SVU) decided to start a metal band in the early 90s and is solely responsible for Limp Bizkit's existence. For that I thank him. The songs, are they good?Smoked Pork - is this one of the skits that Lurky alluded to? yes. See, pork is a reference to a pig aka a cop aka a police officer. He's gonna shoot the police officer. Rude imo. Body Count's In The House - Body Count Count: 69. Nice. Introducing the band on the opening song is a bold choice. Good tones across the board though give me optimism for the rest of the album. Now Sports - I get it. Body Count - out of the house now? maybe! Anyway, this rules. Way more 80s hardcore than I was expecting and I love hardcore more than I love metal probably. DRUM SOLO. It's pretty rudimentary which is absolutely perfect for this kind of music, just play shit fast. A Statistic - that's probably still true today. Bowels Of The Devil - This is making the introduce the band thing sound really stupid because it's so good. Pace and intent working together with that scratchy guitar tone to make a great punk song. The Real Problem - you can't really argue with him and it's still true today. KKK B***h - Ice T likes to have a nice time on tour. Good for him. Catchy tune. C Note - musical interlude in the style of a soft rock guitar solo. It feels like the guitarist decided like he wasn't getting enough to do elsewhere and insisted on shoehorning this in. Voodoo - back to the punx. Open up that fucking pit. The Winner Loses - a drugs are bad ballad. Unpunx and overwrought, I do not like it. There Goes The Neighborhood - BETTER. I think this is the first thing that comes close to a thrash riff on the album and it's a welcome change of pace, especially coming after that duffer The Winner Loses. The tapping in the lead up to/underneath the guitar solo is the best bit so far. Drum Solo #2 fits well with the Sabbath vibes of the back half of the song. Oprah - 2020. Evil D**k - This is a silly song but the riff is cool. Body Count Anthem - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. This is my level of lyrics. Say the band name a lot then get the heck out so the music to get busy. It's basic thrash stuff but I'm fine with that. Momma's Gotta Die Tonight - Ice T has issues with his mam. Shame, that. Bit long. Freedom Of Speech - righteous use of Hendrix and a necessary counterpoint to the insistence of their label not to include Cop Killer on the album. Freedom of speech... just watch what you say, indeed. What d'ya make of it then?I'll probably listen to it again. I think the more hardcore focussed first half of the record is more interesting than the thrashier second half but it's all fine musically even if it sounds like it was made in 1987 rather than 1992. I can't imagine being impressed with it had I been a fan of That Stuff at the time. Does it belong on the dang list? Should it be this high?Nah man, it's only ok. Next up, at 89, Nightwish - Once
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Post by monodrone on May 3, 2018 11:39:29 GMT -5
I'd had that last one written up a couple of weeks ago so here's a bonus edition: 89. Nightwish - OnceWho the heck are these chumps?As I understand it Nightwish are one of those symphonic metal bands you hear about these days. You know, the ones with the operatic vocals accompanied by either power metal widdles or industrial chugs, neither of which I want. I don't think I've listened to a Nightwish album before but I'm familiar with the genre through a friend of mine who would insist on playing Lacuna Coil and Within Temptation at me when we were going to work in 05/06. Nightwish in particular are incredibly popular with this album alone selling over 2 million copies so I guess I have to try to understand what's going on. I'm not looking forward to it tbh. The songs, are they good?Dark Chest Of Wonders - oh no. Synth stabs in the intro. I'm fucked, lads. Ok, the chuggy riff in the middle was cool in a the-good-10-seconds-of-a-Dream-Theater-song style. I don't dislike the vocals, mind you, they might be the least offensive thing so far. All the strings and synths though. Nope. Wish I Had An Angel - yeah, the intro has that processed sound that I don't like on the drums where the bass rings out above everything else like it was made for playing at shitty goth club nights. I say shitty goth club nights - I mean goth club nights, the shitty is implied. I am not a goth. There's a dude singing now which is only making me feel like it's a more metal Aqua. Dr Jones, where are you? Nemo - What could be worse than the opening two songs? Evanescence, is what. This could slot easily on to an Evanescence album. Planet Hell - I just read that this album was recorded with the London Philharmonic Orchestra which explains a lot. I almost respect how balls out they went out with everything in the production here even if all the resulting sounds make me annoyed. They keep letting the man sing which is a bad idea because he's not at all good at it. I get that they're attempting some sort of contrast between him and the competent singer but the difference in ability is too stark for it to work. The twinkly synth solo is very heavy metal interpretation of a song from a Final Fantasy game soundtrack. Creek Mary's Blood - BORING. For some reason there is a native american poem in this song that, as it turns out, was written/translated by a fraud and is actually complete gibberish. Amazing. They're from Finland, what is it there for? The Siren - The chugguitars are back and I can't believe how much I'd missed them when they were gone. STOP LETTING THE MAN NEAR A MICROPHONE. This is the best song so far, the lead riff is fun and the tempo is ever so slightly up. The drums still sound bad to me and it's all too basic rhythmically for my taste but I'll take what I can get here. The short stacatto section at 3-minutesish is something for me to hang on to at least. Dead Gardens - I'm struggling with the fact that this is from 2005 all the guitar stuff sounds like it's straight out of 1996 to me. Anyway, this song is a bit faster and therefore better. It's reminding me of Load/Reload era Metallica which obviously isn't great but I'll take that over Aqua any day of the week. Romanticide - Better intro riff than usual. Synths ruin everything, not even my love for the liberal use of pinch harmonics in the verse can overcome it. The pinches are hella sweet though. Best guitar solo so far too. Ah man, I think I was wrong. The back half of Romanticide kicks ass. I think I have to go as far as saying that I like this song. Ghost Love Score - back to normal aka this song sucks. I have written this after 2 minutes not realising that there are another 8 minutes to go so maybe I've been too quick to judge. I have not been too quick to judge. Kuolema Tekee Taiteilijan - they haven't let the man sing for a while. It's good that they've seen the error of their ways. It's unfortunate that this song is still boring. Higher Than Hope - another song like the other songs that weren't the good song. What d'ya make of it then?These are not the kinds of songs that I like as I knew they would be. It's all too big and clean and bombastic for my tastes. I like stuff that's scratching around in the dirt where the musicians sound like they're hanging on to a song by a thread so I cannot relate to Nightwish at all. Apart from that one song but even that was right at my lower limit for likability. Does it belong on the dang list? Should it be this high?FUCK OFF. Next up, at 88, Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
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Post by monodrone on May 9, 2018 5:27:42 GMT -5
88. Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
[ALBUM COVER IS A ON THE NSFW SIDE OF THINGS SO I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE IT]
Who the heck are these chumps? They're a porcine hating grindcore band, not to be confused with porcine hating grindcore band All Pigs Must Die. Wait a second. These porky references couldn't be allusions to the police, could they? Are they basically called Cop Killer in homage to Ice T and his Body Count pals? Probably! Wouldn't it have been better, thematically, to have had these two albums back to back and shuffled Nightwish over to wither outside of the top 100 so I didn't have to listen to them? It would! Those Rolling Stone bastards clearly have it in for me and I shall have my revenge. Anyway, I have heard some newer Pig Destroyer stuff and I like but I've never heard this album, from way back in 2004, so I'm happy to have a reason to put it on.
The songs, are they good?
Intro - an introduction in the form of running water and what sounds like police radio chatter Pretty In Casts - oh heeeelllllll yeeeaaaah. Inject this directly into my veins. It's a grindcore song so there's fast everythings but it all hangs together and the little breakdown at the end rules. Pinches all over the dang place. Boy Constrictor - BLASTS. GOOD. Scarlet Hourglass - BLASTS. GOOD. Thumbsucker - that ride bell sounds great. Guitar tone is the right amount of filth Gravedancer - what a fucking riff. This is fantastic. The less shouty vocals are reminiscent of yr man from Glassjaw here. Lost Cause - back to the blasts after that short pause for breath. Love the dual vocals here with Kat Katz from Agrophobic Nosebleed joining in the fun. Towering Flesh - there's a bona fide guitar solo! It doesn't suck!! This is such a relief after Nightwish. Song of Filth - mmmmm, cymbal choke count in. The drumming on this album is spectacular - it's one thing to be able to do a sweet blast beat/d-beat switch up but there are all kinds of little fills and flourishes that really help elevate the songs above the average grindcore song. Verminess - good riff again. Good use of the toms on the kit to change things up. Torture Ballad - hahahaha, that intro riff is dirty. Restraining Order Blues - this doesn't sound like a blues song but ok. Carrion Fairy - YAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH. So pumped right now and then they threw in an old school sounding metal riff for good measure. I'm gonna go headbutt a fucking wall. Downpour Girl - yup. Carry on. Soft Assassin - I am enjoying this. Dead Carnations - I don't have much more to say about any of it Crippled Horses - other than every aspect of it appeals to me. The Gentleman - This is usually the point at which I'd start tiring of this stuff but they do a good job of never staying on one setting for too long with well positioned sludgier numbers scattered throughout Crawl of Time - another good song. Terrifyer - I'm going to struggle to listen to other things today.
What d'ya make of it then? This is the best album on the list so far. It's fast and it's nasty and it kept me interested for the full 30+ minutes it was on. I love it and sorely regret having not listened to it sooner.
Does it belong on the dang list? Should it be this high? Absolutely, get it right up there.
NEW FEATURE: now that I'm more than 10 albums into things I'm going to keep a ranking of what's been covered so far and I encourage you to do the same.
1. Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer 2. Kvelertak - Meir 3. Gojira - From Mars To Sirius 4. Deafheaven - Sunbather 5. Eyehategod - Take As Needed For Pain 6. Avenged Sevenfold - City of Evil 7. Sunn O))) - Monoliths and Dimensions 8. Naked City - Torture Garden 9. Body Count - Body Count 10. Nightwish - Once 11. Evanescence - Fallen 12. Dream Theater - Images and Words 13. White Zombie - La Sexorcisto: Devil Music, Vol. 1
Next up, at 87, Manowar - Hail To England
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on May 9, 2018 9:43:07 GMT -5
90. Body Count - S/T
I remember the controversy when this came out, but I was long past the point of caring about thrash, which is what most of the music press had this pigeonholed as. It did impress me that Ice-T was doing metal, since that seemed to be an acknowledgement from an unexpected source that is was completely obvious that metal is FUCKING RAD.
It's a lot punkier than I expected, and the overall feel is a kinda weird rap/crossover/thrash-as-it-transitioned-to-groove. It's cool though, since it's clear that Ice-T didn't give a fuck about rigid genre distinctions and just wanted to make some loud angry music.
The ballad once again proves that they have no place in metal, unless you are talking about "Looking Down The Cross". The thrashier back half appeals to me more, of course, but a lot of these songs are over-long. I'm glad I finally listened to it, but I dunno if I will again.
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on May 9, 2018 9:43:40 GMT -5
89. Nightwish - Once
Holy shit, this is unlistenable.
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on May 9, 2018 10:35:33 GMT -5
88. Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
Grindcore is really hit or miss. There is a shit-ton that is just 30-second blasts of hyperfast noise, but there's some that are minute-and-a-half blasts of noise with like discernible riffs and solos and stuff. Pig Destroyer lands on the latter more often than not on this record, which is good.
They do fall into the samey-ness trap that most grindcore bands do to some extent, but there is enough variation in textures to keep it interesting. Every once in a while something jumps out at you, like the riff in "Carrion Fairy" that Monodrone mentioned. The vocals are pretty good, bringing to mind the throat-ripping V.I.T.R.I.O.L. from Anaal Nathrakh, and the drummer's a fuckin beast.
These guys are pretty good.
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Post by fab on May 9, 2018 12:48:05 GMT -5
I forgot to get around to listening to that White Zombie album, even. so here goes that.
I don't care for the vocals. I can't tell if it's just the mix, but they don't stand out in a good way. it's a lot of mumbly-wumbly whatever? could partly be due to the heavy low / mid range focused guitar tones resulting in things coming across as a bit muddy. not sure.
a lot of this sounds like a much shittier / less coherent version of The Melvins' Houdini with slight nods to psychedelic rock, thrash, and other bits. maybe it's the reliance on a core riff with vocals in a similar range? not sure. that Soul-Crusher track had an okay riff in the opening, but none of this really stands out.
was this considered an influential album by anyone? it seems pretty same-y to me. I prolly would've enjoyed this as a teenager for its generic headbanging quality, but it's not exactly memorable to me now.
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Post by fab on May 9, 2018 13:21:05 GMT -5
and since I'm playing lazy catchup here, the Eyehategod album.
even though I have only a passing familiarity with the genre, sludge metal is a lot more up my alley. I can see how this might've been really influential in its own right, even if there are lots of elements I'd discard over the bits I actually enjoy.
rather excellent guitar tone, acceptable bass thrum (if a bit meh?), drum patterns were kinda lame except on a track that's rather unfortunately titled -- wikipedia tells me that it was eventually retitled after 20+ years, but somehow nobody in the band realized that might be a good idea. facepalm.
not digging the interludes / sample inserts. riffage is solid, but the tempo / groove can be really haggard at times. I suppose that's the point, but sometimes it loses focus a bit much for my taste. could just be that I'm too sober to appreciate it atm, and it'd go over easier with a bongrip or three.
vocals easily the weakest bit by far, imho. terrible cover art. still better than maybe a third or more of the entries I've listened to thus far?
not something I'll be returning to any time soon, but I didn't feel like skipping the back half of the album or so like I did with the White Zombie entry. sure, bits of this may blend together into feeling very similar, but not necessarily same-y... if that makes sense. I don't know why I give sludge metal a pass on that regard. perhaps it's b/c it leans into the skid, as it were?
dig into the riff and let it take on a life of its own. I can get behind that philosophy.
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Post by fab on May 18, 2018 9:15:26 GMT -5
Naked City - Torture Garden.
this can't have been made with any sincerity whatsoever. why is there elevator music and random sax / jass stings?
I'm especially confused since the musicians involved could clearly write something competent if they weren't fucked up on drugs or whatever.
I'd rather listen to overly earnest hair metal. next.
Body Count - Body Count
oh Ice T. repeating the name of your band as if it's a hook on the opener doesn't really work.
still! solid riffage, even if rap metal is almost always unintentionally hilarious.
I assume this is on the list as a nod to its relative influence in maybe showing that the hybrid could work? (gonna use this as a loose definition of "work" since I find it really hard to take Ice T seriously in anything, personally.)
honestly, it doesn't mesh that well. this sounds almost like one of those isolated track mashups where someone split the vocals off and layered them over some general riffage.
there's some thrashy bits, stuff that sounds like a watered down hardcore (read: Black Flag style rhythm backing and / or breakdowns with better production?). maybe this was more entertaining live?
feels like it's included not because it really belongs on a greatest list in terms of quality or anything, but as a nod to history.
Nightwish - Once
what the fuck is this.
the passable guitar tone is about the only thing I can stand. extremely cheesy strings and vocals. second track has this painfully straight four on the floor beat that sounds like fucking disco? what the shit?
I'm not gonna last more than a couple tracks, am I.
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Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
much better! I'm not one for the shouty shout stuff though, as I've stated before. super abrasive metal vocals just don't do it for me.
other than that, I like it! needed to purge the rest of the list. this did the trick.
note that after a bit of acclimation, the vocals grew on me? I could see myself listening to this again. sweet blastbeats and fun riffage. hooray.
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Post by monodrone on Feb 7, 2019 11:12:48 GMT -5
I'm not doing Manowar because of the whole guitarist got arrested for being a massive paedo thing that happened last year. Kinda put a dent in my already low enthusiasm for listening to them.
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86. Lamb of God - As The Palaces BurnWho the heck are these chumps?I've seen and heard Lamb Of God referred to as a groove metal band which, to me, means they liked Pantera and wanted to sound like Pantera. They've been on the go for close to 20 years and my gut tells me that they're one of the biggest 21st century metal bands still going. I love the album Wrath that they put out in 2009 and Redneck used to get played in all the rock and metal bars I used to frequent so I've got a nostalgiac love for that too. The albums that followed, however, have been ok at best and fucking boring at worst. The songs, are they good?Oh yeah, I'm listening to the 2013 remastered version of this because it's all my lazy ass can find. Ruin - this song starts ok with yr chuggy rhythm guitar intro. The verse sounds sluggish and thin like a less good version of what Mastodon were doing at this time but the whole song is completely redeemed by the post-guitar solo drum fill into fast section and slayer guitar wails outro. As The Palaces Burn - it's good. I can see why people like the half time 'groove' sections but for me it's speedy parts that keep me on board. I know there are things other than drums going on but I'm finding it hard to focus on anything else because this boom-bap-boom-bap beat is uncomplicated fun. Purified - This ones missing a hook. I like it but I will forget it quickly. Neat nimble-fingered guitar solo and double bass pedal work, mind you. 11th Hour - sounds like Dethklok, which is to say Dethklok sound like this since this was made first. The high-up-the-neck stabs are straight outta hardcore and therefore good. For Your Malice - oh hey, this one sounds different. The guitars fading in and out in the verse for a touch of menace is done well and breaks up what had been an unrelenting chugfest most of the way. Boot Scraper - I assume this is a song about having stood in a pile of dogshit and having to deal with that. Randy sounds about as pissed off as I am when that happens. It's like the other songs here so I like it but I can't enthuse too much about it. A Devil In God's Country - good riff. That outro is very Devin Townsend - good. Further research shows that Devin Townsend produced the album so I'm please he got to put his stamp on it here. In Defence of Our Good Name - ooooo, drum fill. This has shades of Avenged Sevenfold but without the spidery lead guitars which is the thing that makes A7X at all tolerable so... less good. Blood Junkie - this is closer to where they ended up on Wrath with the half whispered menacing vocals in the verse and a burst for the chorus. Lovely pinch harmonics in the lead guitar that has a real Dimebag feel to it. Cymbals sound weird as fuck in the back half, yuck. Best song so far anyway, I can get past the swishy cymbal. Vigil - ending on a ballad full of bible chat? No thx. It's great when it kicks off but the ratio of kicking off to not kicking off is the wrong way round. What d'ya make of it then?It's a solid album from the post-nu metal era and if it was on Spotify I'd probably stick it on a big playlist and be pleasantly surprised to catch the odd track shuffling. Does it belong on the dang list? Should it be this high?Lamb of God belong on the dang list but if you're only putting one of their albums on here (spoilers, it is the only one) I don't know why you'd pick this one ahead of Wrath which would be number 1 in my up to this point list below. PUT IT IN THE LIST:1. Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer 2. Kvelertak - Meir 3. Gojira - From Mars To Sirius 4. Deafheaven - Sunbather 5. Lamb of God - As The Palaces Burn 5. Eyehategod - Take As Needed For Pain 6. Avenged Sevenfold - City of Evil 7. Sunn O))) - Monoliths and Dimensions 8. Naked City - Torture Garden 9. Body Count - Body Count 10. Nightwish - Once 11. Evanescence - Fallen 12. Dream Theater - Images and Words 13. White Zombie - La Sexorcisto: Devil Music, Vol. 1 Next up at 85, Fenriz and Friends present: Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
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Post by monodrone on Feb 7, 2019 11:54:23 GMT -5
This is better than the songs on that album. The main riff is way more interesting and the transitions between sections are smoothed out with those nice cymbal fills or letting a chord ring out a bit longer. It Slams.
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on Feb 8, 2019 14:25:02 GMT -5
86. Lamb of God - As The Palaces Burn
Holy shit this is completely and utterly generic. Absolutely nothing stood out. Not one riff, not one fill, not one solo (were there solos? I don't remember).
Fenriz and Nocturno Culto, save us from this shit.
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Post by repulsionist on Feb 10, 2019 19:06:01 GMT -5
More "meh" on this entry #86. I have some memory of this band showing up on the cover of Kerrang! as I browsed the magazine racks at Borders ca. 2000 - 2004. I didn't pay attention to them as their baldy boy singer's intense, angry man face and the already-crested wave of NWoAMH crashed against my glass house eyes. Now I throw rocks like Il sole sotto la terra. Wasn't worth paying attention to then, not worth paying attention to now. As a reflection of "Greatest" of all time, I guess it's worth putting it in the list because the editors are seeking some broad spectrum approach that serves as fodder to discuss; hence this small tribe chatter log. Subjectively speaking in a critical manner, this record sucks.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Feb 12, 2019 22:17:53 GMT -5
I had a friend in high school whose mother was allegedly a member of an early iteration of Lamb of God.
I've never cared to look this up to confirm this.
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85. Darkthrone - Transilvanian HungerWho the heck are these chumps?One of those Norwegian black metal bands you used to get in the 90s. Not the one that did the murder and the church burning, no, just one that was friends with them. Gotta say, I have reservations about listening to something that had lyrical contributions from convicted murderer and all round fash dickhead Varg Vikernes but the band themselves have at least calmed down in their middle age enough to recognise that that wasn't a great idea even if Varg remains The Worst. Also, I anticipate the lyrics aren't going to be comprehensible for me so I, in my privilege, can pretend it's all about vampires as the title suggests. Oh hey, this is 25 years old this week, how about that? The songs, are they good?Transilvanian Hunger - this sounds exactly as I thought it would. Over Fjell Og Gjennom Torner - is the outro a nod to Raining Blood? I hope so. This was ok again, I get the impression that these songs were one take and done recordings because some of the chord shifts are well shonky. Skald Au Satans Sol - bit faster bit betterer. Slottet I Det Fjerne - it's all the same, isn't it? No. This one had a pick scrape. +15 points. Oh, that guitar solo is just perfect in that it barely exists. Graven Takeheimens Saler - THERE WAS A DIFFERENT DRUM PATTERN. Finally. I En Hall Med Flesk Og Mjod - there's a Kvelertak song called Mjod. It's better than this. As Flittermice as Satans Spys - I tuned out a bit there and missed half the last song and half of this one. Anyway, it's fine but I've hit the point where I get it and I'm done with it unless something new happens. En as I Dype Skogen - the bass player fucked up at least 3 times. What d'ya make of it then?This sounds like it was recorded in the room next to where the actual noises were coming from. The bass drum sounds like the beater is hitting a mattress while I'm told there's a snare drum in there somewhere I can barely feel it most of the time. I get that it was all supposedly a reaction to what the scene at the time thought of the super polished sounds that were prevalent in the increasingly popular world of Swedish Death Metal but I'm not sure I buy that as much as I think it was some dipshits who didn't know how to do things properly being too stubborn to change their ways and bullshitting their way through any complaints. That seems in keeping with the attitudes of the time to me. I do like the scratchy guitars tone, I can buy that that was just about on purpose. I think it's ok, overall, but maaaaan it's incredibly one-note and one-paced so I was very much bored towards the end. I need my drummers to do more than 1.1 things across the course of an album and ideally while they do that I should be able to make out what's being hit. Why were you guys excited about this? How is this less boring than Lamb of God? EXPLAIN YOURSELVES. Does it belong on the dang list? Should it be where it is?In terms of influence and legacy it probably should be in there and having it in the 80s makes sense as we're still in the 'here are the different metals you can listen to' portion of the list but it's not getting in the monodrone's favourite metal albums list. PUT IT IN THE LIST: 1. Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer 2. Kvelertak - Meir 3. Gojira - From Mars To Sirius 4. Deafheaven - Sunbather 5. Lamb of God - As The Palaces Burn 6. Eyehategod - Take As Needed For Pain 7. Avenged Sevenfold - City of Evil 8. Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger 9. Sunn O))) - Monoliths and Dimensions 10. Naked City - Torture Garden 11. Body Count - Body Count 12. Nightwish - Once 13. Evanescence - Fallen 14. Dream Theater - Images and Words 15. White Zombie - La Sexorcisto: Devil Music, Vol. 1 Next up at 84 it's Grammy Award Winning Metal Titans, High On Fire with their second album BLESSED. BLACK. WINGS.if memory serves, it's a good one.
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Post by repulsionist on Feb 21, 2019 20:32:44 GMT -5
I won't wait for patbat to weigh in with his praise. Frankly, I only know this album from a quick listen more than 10 years ago. I really dig Fenriz and his music preferences, and his willingness to be both a tastemaker with a wide appreciation for most all shavings from the lump of base metal and a musician walking the line of his finite aesthetic - which, to his and Nocturno Oculto's credit, does shift in sections of albums. In other words, this music is limited. It is supposed to be limited. Its intention is to express a feeling, and express that feeling over-and-over. Examples would be: "THAT ONE RIFF FROM THAT CRYPTIC SLAUGHTER SONG! IT MADE ME FEEL SO FULL OF MY HATRED! MORE, PLEASE!" "THAT ONE DRUM BREAK FROM THAT KING DIAMOND SONG! OMG! - AGAIN! I WANT TO HEAR IT AGAIN!" "THAT ONE NEGATIVE APPROACH SONG! GEEZ I WANNA SCREAM LIKE THAT!" "THAT ONE MOTORHEAD SONG!" "THAT ONE AMEBIX SONG!" "THAT ONE FLUX OF PINK INDIANS SONG!" "THAT ONE BATHORY SONG WITH THE ROUGH PRODUCTION!" You get my drift. I don't own this record. I admire Fenriz. This record is in the list because it's the 2nd wave black metal record with the cachet of wide recognition along with other entrant Mayhem. As to HoF, word. I saw them on the tour for Blessed Black Wings. I desperately hoped for a experience akin to how "Silver Back" or "Cometh Down Hessian" made me feel when I first listened to it a week after it released. Unfortunately, whiskey, powerful kush, and other substances limited Mr. Pike's performance. I mean, it was visible even to me as a super stoned non-musician. Des did a hella tom workout, though. That I enjoyed. Joe Preston, I think was still playing with them at that time, or maybe it was their current bassist who hails from Zeke. I saw them in Seattle, March 2005. I recall that someone who looked an awful lot like Kim Thayil was raving at me about Mr. Kensel's tom pommeling to the tune of "Nobody does that. It's awesome!"
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