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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 21:25:16 GMT -5
Hello fair newbies. I am billy, one of the mods here. I have posted the occasional bon mot/dick joke on the avc since 2008 or so. When I registered, I chose the sublimely forgettable name "billy boy", to which I later added things like "noted gobshite". On the avc I always used an image of the Bearman from The Shining as my avatar picture because of the importance of confronting and perhaps even lubricating one's irrational fears.
This is an informal fireside chat about the shoutbox, which can seem a bit off-putting, perhaps even cliquey, to newcomers used to the AVC or AVCAD. We do like newcomers, though--it's often nice when someone new joins in.
First, you don't need to use the shoutbox. As you may have noticed, there are a lot of threads here. You cannot see them all until you post 100 times--there is a "TMI" board that you can access after your 100th post. There is also another secret forbidden board of mystery that you will never see, but that's not important right now. If you don't use the shoutbox, the box regulars will understand and compassionately blame your parents for making you unable to take the heat.
As soon as you register, we recommend you post in the "introduce yourself" thread. Then, if you like, go ahead and chat in the shoutbox at the bottom of the screen, just above the ad of the sad-faced orphan that is targeted at you because Proboards knows about you. The shoutbox is in real time, and sometimes it can move very quickly with more than one conversation happening at a time (leading to Overshare Category #1, which I might explain later). At other times, it is nothing but sad crickets riding tumbleweeds because it is three in the morning in North America and the Europeans are sleeping off their wine and our couple of Australian and Asian users are actually working at their goddamn jobs for once.
There is a general atmosphere of conviviality, on top of a layer of bitterness and animosity, which sits atop an even thicker core of conviviality. It is rare and frowned upon to insult people in any way that could actually hurt their feelings. When someone says something inane, it is of course fair game to attack their thought with some scorn. We have all been dandled upon O'Neal's knee to some extent. That said, I would wait a bit before being too snarky when someone is talking about something they actually like. Once you get to know people and have developed some affection for them, then you can start ribbing people a bit about their interests or perhaps even their bizarre thought patterns. I myself have called people ninnies, gwonks, blarg factories, etc., but I do this only with people I actually like. Obviously we don't use actual insults, nor do we openly diagnose people's raging mental health issues.
When I was green as the buds of May in the shoutbox, one of the things that threw me was the way people referred to each other. Some people change their avatar names often because otherwise they would bottle up and die, but are still referred to as, say, "mpc" or "rando" or "matty". Hover your cursor, if you have one, over the name if you're not sure who they are. Even then, it will take some time to learn that "tih" is now "invisible goat" or "goat", instead of "the invisible handjob" as he was on the avc. For the most part, people's names match what you see, or at least shortened versions thereof.
Over time you will get to know various user's interests and personalities. Some people are legitimately and unironically interested in wrestling. Some people talk about video games till your brain starts falling out of your ears like bits of aloo gobi. Some people like to chat about their day and troubles and excrement. Some people will speak earnestly and openly of the difficulties of life. Some people will speak of tv or movies. Sometimes there is political talk. Sometimes philosophical ideas get batted around idly, like kittens pawing lazily at a ball of yarn.
Yes, we have touched on all things in the box, including sex, which is a thing that happens to some people; however, the point of the shoutbox is not for you to find people to mate with--some just like to talk about it sometimes. If you develop an interest in someone, make goddamn sure it's mutual so that you are not being creepy. It's much safer to be content with being friends with people here, but we are presumably adults.
When you come into the box, you have the option of joining the conversation that is happening or of trying to start a new one. I would recommend joining conversations when you can, but of course every conversation is started by one person. If all you ever do is barge into the box like a junksick walrus and rant about what's on your mind, without regard to the conversation, at a certain point I will diagnose you. This diagnosis will never be uttered or shared with anyone, because again we do not diagnose people in the box, but it will be there in my files. So: join in, or start something. If the conversation bores you and no one is paying attention to you because they are engrossed in wrestlingbox or the deuce knows what, I suggest doing something else for a while. Sooner or later the conversation will get back to important matters like why one should cook a frozen chicken for a longer period of time than an unfrozen one, or that one time a user had no choice but to punch a dog in the face.
There are some injokes, because some of us have known each other for years now. People have come and gone. By and large, though, it's accessible and there if you want it. If you don't understand a joke, just ask and usually someone will explain.
There are no upvotes for clever shouts. Sorry. I myself use an informal/irrationally rigid system of "ha" and "hahaha" when someone pleases me. It's nice to add their names so they know to whom the ha/hahaha is directed. You can also groan, particularly when punbox is happening.
As to doxxing, it is up to you how much you want to share about your life. People here mostly know my real name ("Not Billy"), that I live in Winnipeg for some reason, my job, my height, my weight. These things are given freely by some. Others have had a harder life and are much more vague. I will likely be more vague with new people, until I see that they are not out to steal my identity to sell crippled turtles to war heroes or whatever. Once I figure out you're ok, then I'll let you know I'm 6'4 and 170 pounds and HOLY SHIT OLD. Here's the important part: just because I've told you that I'm 167.5 pounds now since writing that last sentence, that doesn't mean I want you blarging it all over the shoutbox when I'm not there. I think we can be vague about people, e.g. (USER) lives in Iowa the poor fucker, but unless they're consistently open about their personal details, assume that that information is only theirs to tell. The more personal the detail, the less likely it is that you should repeat it publicly.
The shoutbox is ephemeral. Your brilliant imitation of Sean Connery as Gandalf will likely be lost to the sacks of time. There is one exception to this: the Shoutbox Overshare Thread. This is in the TMI Board, which you can't see yet probably. Basically it is cut and pasted bits of shoutbox, without editing or comment. I once classified five distinct types of overshares, but I have no time to explain that nonsense to you right now. It's there in the overshare thread if you patiently read all 300 pages of it. If you are overshared and are embarrassed by it, you can either ask the person who posted it or a mod to take it down. If someone shouts "overshared", that simply alerts people that a post has been made in the thread.
I strongly recommend giving it a try. Being in real time makes it a challenge, as you have to be quick. There are some brilliant people here...and there's mpc ("most popular commenter"), who is the sole person I am going to warn you about. He is real, but also playing a bit of a character. If he seems to despise you, take it as a sign of affection. Or contempt, I forget which one it is. No matter.
Happy shoutboxing!
p.s. Please see the post below from oppyu on how to get the box updating in real time. The short version: either click on the little box with the refresh arrow just above the box, or type something like "hello", or a period. The box will now be in real time. Sometimes it lags if your service sucks or proboards is busy. Sometimes it crashes and there's a picture of a blue bear attacking an office worker. It usually works fine if your service is good.
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Post by oppy all along on Aug 11, 2017 21:36:00 GMT -5
This is a good and comprehensive post.
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Oh, one other thing. The shoutbox is kind of fidgety when it comes to live-updating. When you first load a page, the shoutbox will be inactive. You can activate the shoutbox by posting in the shoutbox, or clicking the little refresh symbol to the right of the formatting bar. Everytime you reload the page or load a different page within the forum, you will need to activate the shoutbox again. If nobody posts in the shoutbox for five minutes, the shoutbox will deactivate.
One thing I do is I keep one tab open on the shoutbox, and use another tab to browse the forum. That way the shoutbox tab remains active in the shoutbox tab.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 21:39:57 GMT -5
tl;dr
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Post by Tea Rex on Aug 12, 2017 11:36:39 GMT -5
A very good overview of the box.
Also FYI, there ARE peak times, new friends.
Weekdays; Since most of the posters are in the US, you've got an uptick between 8 and noon est standard, it dips as people actually work, and then another uptick between 3 and 5 est standard.
This dies off a bit until around 7 est (this is when peeps from the eastern hemisphere start showing up, too), and people are in and out until about 1 am est. There's a bit of a lull while the Asian and Aussie folks work, and then around 3 am est Eurobox begins and carries on until the Americans show up at work.
Weekends: Kind of a crapshoot. During the day eastern time, it is pretty dead. Everyone is doing stuff, hopefully. In the evening on Fri and Sat, sometimes it's busy, sometimes it's a ghost town.
Sunday evening gets more play, especially since anyone in the Eastern hemisphere is actually experiencing Monday morning, the poor souls.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 12:54:46 GMT -5
WRESTLEBOX
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 12, 2017 16:11:53 GMT -5
It is also traditional to say "Bute" when you are leaving. I do not know why.
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Post by Tea Rex on Aug 12, 2017 16:30:08 GMT -5
It is also traditional to say "Bute" when you are leaving. I do not know why. I've been here since the beginning, and I totally forget why. I do know why we say Ha instead of lol - someone misstyped I Ha in response to something, and it caught on, the I eventually being dropped.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Aug 12, 2017 16:40:46 GMT -5
MROING when entering as well
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 16:43:26 GMT -5
If you're cool, you don't use mroing or BUTE at all and just use normal human greetings. Roy Batty's Pet Dove is the exception
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Aug 12, 2017 16:46:14 GMT -5
We really need a thumbs down button
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 12, 2017 16:49:19 GMT -5
If you're cool, you don't use mroing or BUTE at all and just use normal human greetings. Roy Batty's Pet Dove is the exception If you're cool what the hell are you doing in the Shoutbox?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 16:50:37 GMT -5
We really need a thumbs down button I actually still have this saved under "billy" on my computer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 16:52:53 GMT -5
We really need a thumbs down button ALL DAY EVERYDAY, BUT ESPECIALLY ONE OR TWO SUNDAYS OUT OF THE MONTH..... WRASSLEBOX
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Post by 🔪 silly buns on Aug 12, 2017 17:23:18 GMT -5
We really need a thumbs down button ALL DAY EVERYDAY, BUT ESPECIALLY ONE OR TWO SUNDAYS OUT OF THE MONTH..... WRASSLEBOX
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 17:39:04 GMT -5
ALL DAY EVERYDAY, BUT ESPECIALLY ONE OR TWO SUNDAYS OUT OF THE MONTH..... WRASSLEBOX
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 23:16:58 GMT -5
"Bute" was, I believe, someone's drunkass or possibly just sober-inept typo of "bye". Sometimes people will specify why they are leaving, e.g. lunchbute or commutebute. I myself don't use it, but when people do I don't go against them.
I never type "lol" because all true laughter is, by definition, out loud. Ha means you said something amusing, even if I'm not physically smiling. Hahaha involves a grin. I have resorted to all caps when I am laughing so hard people around me become concerned. Feel free to use whatever works for you, though. Some people never do this and that's ok too. One thing I have learned from my countless years on Earth, though, is that those who give affection are more likely to receive it in turn.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Aug 13, 2017 7:04:51 GMT -5
One thing I have learned from my countless years on Earth, though, is that those who give affection are more likely to receive it in turn. Are you implying that in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make?
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Post by Dellarigg on Aug 13, 2017 7:38:34 GMT -5
Mroing was a typo for morning, which should be obvious by now.
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Post by sarapen on Aug 13, 2017 7:46:37 GMT -5
More specifically, "mroing" was in one of the answers to the famous " How is babby formed?" question from Yahoo Answers. We did not invent it, yo.
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Post by Dellarigg on Aug 13, 2017 8:10:48 GMT -5
More specifically, "mroing" was in one of the answers to the famous " How is babby formed?" question from Yahoo Answers. We did not invent it, yo. I didn't know that. Context takes some of the fun away, in this case, doesn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 9:44:47 GMT -5
One thing I have learned from my countless years on Earth, though, is that those who give affection are more likely to receive it in turn. Are you implying that in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make? No Paul/John, it's rarely equal. Usually one ends up either giving more or receiving more. I give more ha's than I get, but I'm ok with that. Love is the best sensation waiting in the lion's mane, obviously.
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Aug 14, 2017 0:24:41 GMT -5
Also, please be aware that I will be keeping files on ALL OF YOU.
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Post by fab on Aug 14, 2017 10:51:57 GMT -5
this thread is very helpful for new folks like myself. thank you kindly
edit: are there other threads like this I can reference to acquaint myself with the flow of things? my M.O. will likely be to just pop into whatever's active or piques my curiousity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 10:58:34 GMT -5
this thread is very helpful for new folks like myself. thank you kindly edit: are there other threads like this I can reference to acquaint myself with the flow of things? my M.O. will likely be to just pop into whatever's active or piques my curiousity.
None that come to mind, but the threads are more self-explanatory. If you're confused by anything, just ask in the thread.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 14, 2017 11:04:09 GMT -5
Mroing was a typo for morning, which should be obvious by now. This is so shockingly obvious in retrospect that it's a little humiliating not to have realized it.
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Post by Tellyfier on Aug 15, 2017 2:40:28 GMT -5
I haven't seen them in a while but there's some ALL CAPS memes like I'M LOSING MY GODDAMNED MIND and I'LL KILL YOU (the latter would be technically in violation of the rule against personal threats) which are not to be taken seriously. You'd use I'LL KILL YOU as a comedic overreaction when someone has a mildly different opinion on a small matter. I'M LOSING MY GODDAMNED MIND is just a way of saying I'm not having the best of times at the moment, I guess.
Ah and one more thing you need to know before you start shoutboxing: I did your mom.
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Aug 15, 2017 7:15:00 GMT -5
There are some brilliant people here...and there's mpc ("most popular commenter"), who is the sole person I am going to warn you about. He is real, but also playing a bit of a character. MPC is a malfunctioning chatbot. I'm pretty sure.
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Post by Invisible Goat on Aug 15, 2017 8:02:10 GMT -5
Basically keep in mind that I'm a respected member of the community, no one makes fun of me, and there are no inside jokes about me.
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Post by Tellyfier on Aug 15, 2017 8:21:39 GMT -5
Basically keep in mind that I'm a respected member of the community, no one makes fun of me, and there are no inside jokes about me. Creepy, goat.
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Post by 🐍 cahusserole 🐍 on Aug 15, 2017 12:11:24 GMT -5
Ah and one more thing you need to know before you start shoutboxing: I did your mom. STOP THAT.
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