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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 11:27:51 GMT -5
(#4 will ELIMINATE YOUR HEAD!)
I have given this matter incredibly ponderous thought, and will shortly list the five greatest 80s cheese pop vocal performances, in order, starting with the best because I bet you didn't expect that. Should you disagree with these objective truths, I reserve my right to balk, scoff and/or whinny like an English governess.
Before I get to the list, however, there are certain diversity issues that must be dealt with earnestly and openly. You will find out that the best vocal performance was done by a woman, which is hardly surprising since that is the case in pop music for probably every decade (xref: Adele, "Someone Like You"; Rihanna, "Desperado"). That said, the other four are white cishet men. I know. There's something inherently cheesy about us, maybe, or perhaps this exercise is faux-objective and I often look to men for guidance with the difficulties of life. Please know that many outstanding 80s vocal performances had to be excluded on the grounds that they were not really pop (Joan Jett, "Bad Reputation), or that they were actually good songs (Prince, "Kiss", Traci Chapman, "Fast Car"). If anyone is at fault here, I suggest it is you.
Here is the list, from greatest to still-great-but-not-as-good-as-the-greatest:
1. Bonnie Tyler, "Total Eclipse of the Heart". Friends, this is as good as it gets. It starts slow, melancholic, reflective. Soon, however, we can hear that something is catching in her throat, and that thing is "utter insanity". She becomes more and more distraught as the song progresses, until the listener is willing to do something--anything--even make soup--to assuage her pain. Alas, she is inconsolable. This song, as I once said to Prole Hole , is an insane roller coaster ride of emotion, and that roller coaster is being driven by an insane monkey who has you by the balls and is whispering gentle encouragements with every painful squeeze. By the end of this 17-minute long song, she is completely burned out, a charred husk of a woman smoking on a recording studio floor whose like will not be seen again. I have every reason to believe she died immediately after recording this.
2. "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey. Steve Perry is the yang to Tyler's yin, insofar as 1980s singing gods go. He takes us on a tour of everyday America, showing us the cycle that goes on and on and on and egg. This gently raspy man is hiding angel wings under his jean jacket that strain the fabric with each miraculous high note. It's all in the throat/head notes here. I suspect Steve Perry is Italian. Here, he burns brighter here than a million candles arranged in the shape of a heart that's about to explode.
3. "Keep On Lovin' You" by REO Speedwagon. O my goodness. This, my friends, is a naked man. When he draws out the "un" sound in "hissin'" shortly before the first chorus, it is the most openly vulnerable sound you will ever hear, including any conversations you may have with Invisible Goat . He isn't trying to puff himself up; he's saying, "here I am. This is my boney chest. I am turning into water. Take what I have, even if it isn't very good." But it IS good! It's nasal and thin and that's exactly why it works. The man needs nurturing and a hot bath, and he isn't ashamed to admit it.
4. "Dream On" by Nazareth. Do you know what I'm going to tell you? This man's voice is both broken AND unbreakable! "Wait, how is that possible," you ask--well, shut up! Dan's voice has stood the test of time better than his lungs, but here he is in his prime. You can hear how he has run himself ragged for this woman, and she laughs at him, but MY GOD he's devoted to her. Listen. She's fooling herself, and HE'S fooling HIMself if he thinks he's managed to distance himself from her. Why, this man is ready to lurk naked in her garage if need be. And unlike the similarly brilliant and powerful vocal in his cover of "This Flight Tonight", this song doesn't sound like it was recorded in a sewer using bean cans and lengths of string for a mic. You can hear all the natural undertones and overtones that his larynx produces, and you can crawl right inside that throat until you either feel better or are ready to perish.
5. "Boys of Summer" by Don Henley. Oh man I hate the Eagles and their sweet Laurel Canyon sound as much as anyone, but this song fully justifies Don Henley's stay of execution. Listen to the quiet burr in that voice as it sets the scene for you: nobody is on the road, nobody is on the beach. Don is going to take us on a tour of Southern California, where people wear things called Wayfarers. He seems distanced--aloof even--until you get to that chorus and POW! He's completely invested in the absent woman! Listen to him hallucinating his way around Venice Beach; that woman is everywhere and he's howling at his own inability to turn back the clock, his voice soaring like some kind of...falcon I guess. They fly pretty high.
p.s. I am not a psycho
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Post by Dellarigg on Aug 18, 2017 12:00:27 GMT -5
Vienna by Ultravox, sung by Midge Ure. Moodily almost-spoken verses, full-throated chorus, and ending on an even more full-throated chorus after - get this - a violin solo.
See also his ludicrous 80s solo take on No Regrets - which actually had a drum machine bit towards the end that gives me goosebumps. In fact, the aforementioned violin solo gives me goosebumps too. The body reacts how it's gonna react, I suppose.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Aug 18, 2017 13:50:05 GMT -5
1. Bonnie TylerKlaus Nomi, "Total Eclipse of the Heart". Friends, this is as good as it gets.
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Post by moimoi on Aug 18, 2017 14:30:14 GMT -5
I find this list fair and accurate. Also hilarious. I feel like I should just give up writing now.
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Post by Prole Hole on Aug 18, 2017 14:42:03 GMT -5
@billy - I can in no way deny that Total Eclipse Of The Heart is an insane rollercoaster, and indeed I would stand by your assertion that it is. It is quite the track, from quite the lady, and Our Bonnie belts it out with the best of them. Well, the cheesiest of them at any ore. Hurrah, says I!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 14:52:14 GMT -5
I find this list fair and accurate. Also hilarious. I feel like I should just give up writing now.
Thank you and thank you and no
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 14:56:52 GMT -5
A message from billy girl: "I have been alternately having to listen to the various songs that may make the list and his various ponderings on this for most of our vacation. So mostly I'm just glad it's over."
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Aug 18, 2017 23:03:55 GMT -5
billy girl seems OK, aside from the "Turn The Page" thing.
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Post by Jimmy James on Aug 19, 2017 8:47:52 GMT -5
Roland Gift's falsetto on "She Drives Me Crazy" probably deserves a mention, but it's more restrained on their cover of "Suspicious Minds"
That instead warrants mention for the absolutely ridiculous backing vocals. It's just no fair at all that the singer doesn't appear in the video with the band, because I'm sure he's making an absolutely ridiculous face to go along with it while he wails. They're credited to Jimmy Sommerville, but that may well be a cover-up for some keening banshee loose in the studio.
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Post by Jimmy James on Aug 19, 2017 8:55:21 GMT -5
(#4 will ELIMINATE YOUR HEAD!)
4. "Dream On" by Nazareth. Do you know what I'm going to tell you? This man's voice is both broken AND unbreakable! "Wait, how is that possible," you ask--well, shut up! Dan's voice has stood the test of time better than his lungs, but here he is in his prime. You can hear how he has run himself ragged for this woman, and she laughs at him, but MY GOD he's devoted to her. Listen. She's fooling herself, and HE'S fooling HIMself if he thinks he's managed to distance himself from her. Why, this man is ready to lurk naked in her garage if need be. And unlike the similarly brilliant and powerful vocal in his cover of "This Flight Tonight", this song doesn't sound like it was recorded in a sewer using bean cans and lengths of string for a mic. You can hear all the natural undertones and overtones that his larynx produces, and you can crawl right inside that throat until you either feel better or are ready to perish.\ I had heard all of the others before, but not this one. Does the music video include a dwarf getting pushed out of an airlock by this same callous woman? You're goddamned right it does.
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Post by moimoi on Aug 19, 2017 11:32:11 GMT -5
I am almost ashamed to submit this for consideration:
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Post by President Hound on Aug 19, 2017 17:58:13 GMT -5
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Post by fab on Aug 21, 2017 7:56:30 GMT -5
assorted thoughts: some of these songs are too good on their own merits to be merely cheese? the production definitely pushes it over the top though. - Total Eclipse of the Heart may be cheesy, but it's just kinda great in general? someone went up and did it at karaoke on her birthday the other week and it was a lot of fun.
- everyone knows Don't Stop Believing since it's just a damn tuneful song and a great singalong! too good to qualify as cheese?
- have I ever heard an REO Speedwagon song I liked? I have no idea. I kinda want more unnecessary vocal fireworks in my cheese, personally.
- what the fuck was that Nazareth video? if the video is part of the criteria for unqualified cheese, I'm on board, but again -- I want more ham with my cheese, please!
- until now, I thought The Boys of Summer was a Bryan Adams song. whoops. (isn't this song also too good to be pure cheese?)
- Bonnie Tyler - Holding Out for a Hero is another great choice in that regard... I kinda thought to myself "is that the 'I Need A Hero' song? it must be." was not disappointed. this takes the questionable cake for me.
so yeah. Bonnie Tyler is my vote for top, but I'm not familiar enough with the era to give accurate context. that production and video! but especially the production. it sounds like it was recorded in a half soundproofed community centre with the worst possible electronic drums and overmixing the 80's could offer. annnnnnnnnnd now I'm listening to Whitesnake. silly buns correctly predicted what song I would specifically be listening to in the shoutbox when I mentioned Whitesnake... -_-
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Post by almostrosey on Aug 23, 2017 14:57:34 GMT -5
Total Eclipse of the Heart rises to the top, but I think anything penned by Jim Steinman qualifies. Making Love Out of Nothing At All by Air Supply is triumphant cheese pop.
Cheesy and good are not mutually exclusive to me. Sometimes I want understated; sometimes I want over-the-top.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 15:52:44 GMT -5
Here I Go Again annoys me because it's like two different songs. One is a power ballad with cool melodies, and the other is the chorus where the melodies are dropped and it sounds tuneless compared to the rest of the song.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 16:16:37 GMT -5
Total Eclipse of the Heart rises to the top, but I think anything penned by Jim Steinman qualifies. Making Love Out of Nothing At All by Air Supply is triumphant cheese pop. Cheesy and good are not mutually exclusive to me. Sometimes I want understated; sometimes I want over-the-top. Right, but here I'm looking exclusively at vocal performance, not the quality of the song.
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Post by fab on Aug 23, 2017 17:49:29 GMT -5
Here I Go Again annoys me because it's like two different songs. One is a power ballad with cool melodies, and the other is the chorus where the melodies are dropped and it sounds tuneless compared to the rest of the song. I think it's mostly that the hook gets stuck in my head, paired with that almost exact middle of the road guitar sound from that era. many of those songs are kinda lacking in tasteful structure and execution in even parts!
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Post by Franko on Aug 23, 2017 19:24:54 GMT -5
This might be too rock-ish to count, but all about "Hands Across America"?
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Aug 23, 2017 19:47:59 GMT -5
I must interject with:
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Post by moimoi on Aug 23, 2017 21:38:21 GMT -5
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Post by ArchieLeach on Aug 24, 2017 10:02:43 GMT -5
Mr. Mister's 1985 hit "Broken Wings" is one of the great cheesy pop vocals of that particular decade. You can tell from all the Dennis DeYounge-ish breathiness and the yelping that this topic pierces the singer to his heart, and with the profound synonymatic phrase "open up and let us in" (which could be interpreted as "open up and let us sin," or, alternatively, "lettuce sin") one can imagine the rapture he took in singing the song.
Having made fun of the guy, I have to admit I rather like the song - the synth line towards the end is gorgeous.
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Post by fab on Aug 24, 2017 10:30:21 GMT -5
Mr. Mister, "Broken Wings." "Open up and let us in*," indeed. *Or is it "let us sin"? "Lettuce sin"? so I thought this thread was for misquoted / misheard lyrics (aka mondegreens), but I guess it's just out of context...? either way, go nuts
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Post by ArchieLeach on Aug 24, 2017 10:57:29 GMT -5
Mr. Mister, "Broken Wings." "Open up and let us in*," indeed. *Or is it "let us sin"? "Lettuce sin"? so I thought this thread was for misquoted / misheard lyrics (aka mondegreens), but I guess it's just out of context...? either way, go nuts My initial response to this was excessively snarky, which is not the tone I want to take on my inaugural day. My comment has been edited.
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Post by fab on Aug 24, 2017 13:26:32 GMT -5
so I thought this thread was for misquoted / misheard lyrics (aka mondegreens), but I guess it's just out of context...? either way, go nuts My initial response to this was excessively snarky, which is not the tone I want to take on my inaugural day. My comment has been edited. I never saw it, and even if I had, don't worry about it. I'm barely awake and cogent. as you were <3
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Sept 8, 2017 21:05:24 GMT -5
Boys of Summer and Total Eclipse of the Heart are both legitimately great songs.
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Post by Trurl on Sept 15, 2017 15:12:48 GMT -5
@billy, how can you turn your back on your Canadian heritage?
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 16, 2017 1:23:43 GMT -5
Mr. Mister's 1985 hit "Broken Wings" is one of the great cheesy pop vocals of that particular decade. You can tell from all the Dennis DeYounge-ish breathiness and the yelping that this topic pierces the singer to his heart, and with the profound synonymatic phrase "open up and let us in" (which could be interpreted as "open up and let us sin," or, alternatively, "lettuce sin") one can imagine the rapture he took in singing the song. Having made fun of the guy, I have to admit I rather like the song - the synth line towards the end is gorgeous. Whoa! I was going to nominate this song to replace "Boys of Summer". I don't find Henly's vocal performance in that song cheesy at all. But, "Broken Wings"? Definitely cheesy. Not to say it is bad. But definitely cheesy. I'd also nominate Bon Jovi "Wanted Dead or Alive", which is definitely Bon Jovi's cheesiest song, no? Bon Jovi is so sincere about singing these ridiculous lyrics. I'm pretty sure I have a playlist somewhere called "Best cheesy 80s songs" and this one is on it. I'd probably bump REO Speedwagon "Keep On Loving You" to the top. That is an awesomely cheesy song. That is such a fun song to sing in the car. Sometimes I think I may actually love this song, instead of just ironically love it. It is a fine line, truly.
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Post by louiebb on Sept 17, 2017 7:08:03 GMT -5
Aw yeah, it looks like no one's taken mine yet. Behold Whitney:
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Post by louiebb on Sept 17, 2017 7:13:54 GMT -5
That last was leaning decidedly more towards the "cheesiest" than the "greatest." This one should balance it out, though we have to admit Stevie was pretty cheesy here.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 18, 2017 16:06:16 GMT -5
How has nobody said 'Africa' by Toto yet?
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