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Post by Dellarigg on Mar 5, 2014 11:43:40 GMT -5
Grey Area, short stories by Will Self. Can't make my mind up about this bloke. I really want to like him, and think he's doing the kind of thing that should be applauded. But then again, I'm forced to conclude that a lot of what he writes is cack. Much of this collection is tedious cack.
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Post by flowsthead on Mar 6, 2014 3:02:14 GMT -5
I'm reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick. I'm not very far in, but I'm excited because I really loved A Scanner Darkly.
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Post by nottheradio on Mar 6, 2014 17:17:19 GMT -5
Grey Area, short stories by Will Self. Can't make my mind up about this bloke. I really want to like him, and think he's doing the kind of thing that should be applauded. But then again, I'm forced to conclude that a lot of what he writes is cack. Much of this collection is tedious cack. I didn't get more than 30 pages into his Cock & Bull before I threw in the towel. Didn't click for me at all.
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Post by Dellarigg on Mar 6, 2014 17:37:24 GMT -5
I'm reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick. I'm not very far in, but I'm excited because I really loved A Scanner Darkly. After abandoning Grey Area (see my above cack-infested post), I'm about to start A Scanner Darkly. Haven't read any Dick before this, so to speak, so I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by jaynara on Mar 7, 2014 14:21:09 GMT -5
I'm becoming obsessed with Walters Moers's Zamonien series
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Mar 7, 2014 18:38:45 GMT -5
Decided to read more bad books, so I'm onto Arthur Herzog's "Orca." A hastily written Jaws rip-off with a big-ass dolphin in place of a shark and a not-so subtle subtext that the lead character kinda wants to bang his sister.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Mar 8, 2014 18:25:18 GMT -5
Man, you had me at "Orca", but you really had me at "bang his sister".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 1:52:58 GMT -5
I'm reading a book to review for work and I have "Legend" by Marie Lu on my Nook. It's supposed to be the next big trilogy in YA fiction and I've heard good things. Then I'll read "Detroit: An American Autopsy" by Charlie LeDuff. Have you started American Autopsy yet? I was thinking of doing that next too (or fairly soon to next). I've now started it and it's more about LeDuff's relationship with Detroit after he returned. The best chapter in the book so far is when he embeds himself with a ladder in the Detroit Fire Department after Kwame Kilpatrick dissed the fire department. I'm overall enjoying it because even though he shows all of Detroit's flaws, you get this strong sense that he really loves Detroit. I also want to contrast and compare it with "You Were Never In Chicago" by Neil Steinberg as they're both books that are largely reporters writing about the cities they call home. In case anyone was curious, I also really enjoyed "Legend." I liked it more than "The Hunger Games," but I haven't read "Divergent." It's a dystopian YA novel, but the future it portrays doesn't feel outrageously overthought.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Mar 9, 2014 9:30:50 GMT -5
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 9, 2014 19:41:13 GMT -5
I finished "A Tale of Two Cities," this weekend, and decided to take a brief break from the non-stop 19th century books currently in the public domain that I was supposed to read in high school and read "Lord of the Flies." Unlike the random 19th century books that I skipped while in high school, I actually read "Lord of the Flies," in its entity when assigned (and re-read it in college).
It might be because I haven't read the book in over a decade and have incorrectly remembered details of the story, or because I'm older and less of an asshole than I was when in high school, but pretty much every kid in the book is a horrible ass. I had remembered Ralph as being a pretty decent human being, but at least in the first half of the book he's kind of an asshole to Piggy and the younger kids.
It's a pretty quick read (I got about halfway through this morning during my commute to work), so I'll probably finish it either on my way home, or tomorrow morning on the way back to work at which time I'll probably begin the book I've been most dreading since I began this penitent undertaking of finishing reading assigned 15~20 years ago: "Jane Eyre."
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Post by Judkins Moaner on Mar 9, 2014 21:25:06 GMT -5
I read The Swerve earlier this year and enjoyed it—I recall K. Thrace saying she thought it was too shallow last year in a Pop Culture Weekend but it was just about the right depth for me. I did read a translation of Lucretius (the Penguin one) and wasn’t all that impressed, but the translation didn’t seem that great, either (it was kind of colloquial, and it was equal parts jarring and hilarious to see Lucretius refer to African women as “brown sugar”). It didn't seem shallow to me as much as disjointed and only tangentially about Lucretius; there seemed to be as much, if not more, about medieval book culture which, though interesting, wasn't exactly what I'd signed up for (Tom Holland pulled that shit, too, in In the Shadow of the Sword). Lucretius himself started out as a bit of a drag but just got weirder and weirder to read as he went on, which was a pleasant surprise. Someone ought to write a straight-up biography of Poggio Braciolini; he pops up in so many modern chronicles of the period, rather like the silver mines of Potosi in early modern global histories (and still keeping my eyes peeled for a Potosi book). Making good progress on my 200 for '14. Ulysses down, just started Shelby Foote's The Civil War (already got his cards on the table, which didn't surprise me) and it looks like the library has all of Proust, which'll probably come in the next month or two. Almost done with Ayelet Waldman's Red Hook Road, a good, old-fashioned family tragedy novel set in coastal Maine--the thing screams "Great American Novel" as if it were being roasted over coals, but still pretty good for all that. Ordered Vandermeer's City of Saints and Madmen from the bookstore and am thinking now about picking up Bleeding Edge next week if I feel up to it. Either that or Helene Wecker's The Golem and the Jinni, which I already have.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Mar 10, 2014 8:16:30 GMT -5
I finished "A Tale of Two Cities," this weekend, and decided to take a brief break from the non-stop 19th century books currently in the public domain that I was supposed to read in high school and read "Lord of the Flies." Unlike the random 19th century books that I skipped while in high school, I actually read "Lord of the Flies," in its entity when assigned (and re-read it in college). It might be because I haven't read the book in over a decade and have incorrectly remembered details of the story, or because I'm older and less of an asshole than I was when in high school, but pretty much every kid in the book is a horrible ass. I had remembered Ralph as being a pretty decent human being, but at least in the first half of the book he's kind of an asshole to Piggy and the younger kids. It's a pretty quick read (I got about halfway through this morning during my commute to work), so I'll probably finish it either on my way home, or tomorrow morning on the way back to work at which time I'll probably begin the book I've been most dreading since I began this penitent undertaking of finishing reading assigned 15~20 years ago: "Jane Eyre." Breaks are good. I continue to be impressed and excited about your reading project. I really dug Lord of the Flies when I re-read it last year or the year before. Yeah, everyone pretty much sucks. I mean, Piggy sucks too; you can see why it'd be so tempting to pick on him. Ralph has the charisma but not the brains, huh? Which is why he fails. Jane Eyre is your big bugbear, huh? It's not so bad. I like Wuthering Heights better, on account of it's way more fun, but Eyre is a good book. I'm reading Bleeding Edge for book club right now and just hating, hating, hating it.
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Post by usernametoolong on Mar 10, 2014 12:55:36 GMT -5
Dr. Dastardly I can't remember, is it your first Pynchon? I wouldn't say I hated it, but I was rather disappointed, I thought the heart wasn't in it, which is quite weird as it's almost his novel that feels the most personal, with caring characters and proper feelings and stuff.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Mar 10, 2014 14:01:35 GMT -5
Second. Second Pynchon. First was Crying of Lot 49. Should maybe have tackled one of the big classics - Gravity's Rainbow or Mason & Dixon or something - instead of this one.
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Post by usernametoolong on Mar 10, 2014 14:57:36 GMT -5
If that makes you feel any better, they're the two I cared the least for so far (although I'm probably due for a re-read of Lot 49). I've otherwise been reading a bit since my last post. I finished my re-read of Stendhal's La Chartreuse de Parme, which I very much liked, it's all very charming and fun, it's all about love, love, love, and how it affects everything, in particular here politics. I quite liked that the nominally main character is pretty much useless and keeps advancing the plot in spite of himself. I also thought Stendhal did a good job of presenting the various characters' point of view with interior monologues. Went on with Eric Chevillard Du Hérisson (Of The Hedgehog), his books tend to be riffing on a theme, here, a writer about to write his autobiography finds a hedgehog on his desk, and a lot of funny and very well-written nonsense follows. The most accurate description I could possibly make is to compare them to one of the joke threads in the AVC comments where everyone piles up with variations on a silly concept. He's always huge fun, and this was no exception. Gombrowicz's Cosmos was a bit of a headscratcher, but it's probably meant to be, it reads like some sort of detective story where the "detectives" don't realise they're not actually looking for anything and are just making a mystery up as they go along based on close to nothing, it's pretty good fun, with plenty of silly situations and dialogues. Maybe not the best place to start with him, but definitely worth reading (the only other one I've read is Ferdydurke which is relatively more accessible). Esterhazy's Helping Verbs of the Heart was written just after his mother died and reads as a shrine to her, albeit a rather twisted one, it felt a little like a rehearsal for his Harmonia Caelestis with facts being mixed with fiction, the latter often being quotes and re-appropriations of other books. It in the end manages to be moving without being saccharine, it's not as playful as some of his other stuff, but is still interested in providing something that is interesting to read out of more than curiosity and respect. Raphael Confiant's Le Gouverneur des Dés, he's a creole writer from Martinique, the language and vocabulary is fairly exotic and helps a lot in creating the atmosphere. This one follows Rosalien, a major (some sort of village chief, but more crook than mayor) in the 50's as he realises that his time, and more generally this time is coming to an end. I really loved that one and should really read more by him. There's apparently only one of his that's been translated in English, it's probably worth a look. Otherwise you should only attempt if you are really fluent in French as the language is far from being proper French. Just started Broch's The Sleepwalkers which should keep me busy for a while (I'll probably take breaks between the various parts though), I also bought a few books during a recent stay in Paris (the Eurostar trips explaining the rather long post), including, after more than a few people here saying it was one of their favourite Dumas's Le Comte de Monté-Christo and after a discussion with Douay-Rheims-Challoner a few days (or is it weeks already?) ago, my first Mishima, After the Banquet; so those should follow relatively soon. ETA after just seeing Tenth of December won some prize, gave George Saunders a try with In Persuasion Nation, just read the first two stories so far and will continue, but right now, I am really not convinced.
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 10, 2014 19:09:11 GMT -5
I finished "A Tale of Two Cities," this weekend, and decided to take a brief break from the non-stop 19th century books currently in the public domain that I was supposed to read in high school and read "Lord of the Flies." Unlike the random 19th century books that I skipped while in high school, I actually read "Lord of the Flies," in its entity when assigned (and re-read it in college). It might be because I haven't read the book in over a decade and have incorrectly remembered details of the story, or because I'm older and less of an asshole than I was when in high school, but pretty much every kid in the book is a horrible ass. I had remembered Ralph as being a pretty decent human being, but at least in the first half of the book he's kind of an asshole to Piggy and the younger kids. It's a pretty quick read (I got about halfway through this morning during my commute to work), so I'll probably finish it either on my way home, or tomorrow morning on the way back to work at which time I'll probably begin the book I've been most dreading since I began this penitent undertaking of finishing reading assigned 15~20 years ago: "Jane Eyre." Breaks are good. I continue to be impressed and excited about your reading project. I really dug Lord of the Flies when I re-read it last year or the year before. Yeah, everyone pretty much sucks. I mean, Piggy sucks too; you can see why it'd be so tempting to pick on him. Ralph has the charisma but not the brains, huh? Which is why he fails. Jane Eyre is your big bugbear, huh? It's not so bad. I like Wuthering Heights better, on account of it's way more fun, but Eyre is a good book. I'm reading Bleeding Edge for book club right now and just hating, hating, hating it. Jane Eyre was the book in high school that I couldn't even get through a film adaptation of. It's the one I fear reading the most, but at the same time I think it has the greatest chance of all the books on my list to surprise me (ie. "Why did I so loathe this book?"). I could very well be the anti-Frankenstein (Frankenstein was a book that I thought would be okay, but turned out to the 19th century's version of some emo girl's Livejournal page). I think the only book I hated more in high school was Walden, but I read that in its entity in college (still didn't care for it much at the time but at least managed to get through it), so it is not going to be a part of this experiment.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Mar 11, 2014 8:47:29 GMT -5
Aw, man, and Frankenstein is one of my very favorite books ever. I do see your point - both Victor and the monster do a lot of whining - but I thought there was an awful lot going on in that little book.
I still haven't read Walden. I realize I ought to, but...what, it's just about some young punk living in the woods? That sounds boring. Did you know Thoreau accidentally burned down like half those woods? And that he used to go home to his mother's for dinner?
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 13, 2014 2:23:52 GMT -5
Aw, man, and Frankenstein is one of my very favorite books ever. I do see your point - both Victor and the monster do a lot of whining - but I thought there was an awful lot going on in that little book. I still haven't read Walden. I realize I ought to, but...what, it's just about some young punk living in the woods? That sounds boring. Did you know Thoreau accidentally burned down like half those woods? And that he used to go home to his mother's for dinner? I actually visited Thoreau's shack on a class trip while in high school so I did know about his shitty fire managing skills and the fact that he dined out with other fairly often (Ralph Waldo Emerson was another person he frequently visited for meals). The shack's really a lot closer to civilization than Thoreau would lead you to believe. It was literally 2 minutes by bus from where his buddy Emerson lived which means he could have easily walked there in like 15~20 minutes. In unrelated, "What Am I Reading" news, I finished Lord of the Flies. My memory of Ralph being "good," was at least partially vindicated by the end of the book. I wouldn't really call him good, but less horrible than a lot of the other kids. Falling into old habits I am still putting off reading Jane Eyre, because a couple days ago I learned about a book called The King In Yellow. Kind of related to both True Detective and Lovecraft's Cthulhu nonsense? In the public domain and easily downloadable on an e-reader? Not Jane Eyre? Sign me up!
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Post by heroboy on Mar 13, 2014 13:24:52 GMT -5
I just finished reading Under Heaven by Guy Gavriel Kay. It was a great read, though not quite in my top echelon of Kay's books. I'd rank it fourth behind Lions of Al-Rassan, Sarantine Mosaic, and Last Light of the Sun.
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Post by F. U. Hat on Mar 13, 2014 20:15:54 GMT -5
I just finished reading Under Heaven by Guy Gavriel Kay. It was a great read, though not quite in my top echelon of Kay's books. I'd rank it fourth behind Lions of Al-Rassan, Sarantine Mosaic, and Last Light of the Sun. I've been trying to decide which Kay book to read next. I was my sisteroommate's entry point to his work via the Fionavar Tapestry, but she's way more into him nowadays and anyway the point is we live together and I'm working my way through her bookshelf as well as my own. Lions of Al-Rassan it is!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 23:31:13 GMT -5
Finished "Detroit: An American Autopsy" and I can say it's the most depressing book I've read in a while. It does a good job of depicting how screwed up Detroit is while humanizing the city and the problems. I recommend it.
I'm now reading "The Rosie Project" by Graeme Simsion. It's about a socially awkward geneticist who decides it's time to marry a woman and devises a questionnaire called "The Wife Project" to help he find a wife.
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Post by Mrs David Tennant on Mar 14, 2014 10:27:27 GMT -5
Finished "Detroit: An American Autopsy" and I can say it's the most depressing book I've read in a while. It does a good job of depicting how screwed up Detroit is while humanizing the city and the problems. I recommend it. I'm now reading "The Rosie Project" by Graeme Simsion. It's about a socially awkward geneticist who decides it's time to marry a woman and devises a questionnaire called "The Wife Project" to help he find a wife. Those both sound good - I'm adding them to the list. (It drives me crazy that I can only put 15 holds on books at my library - I can go through 15 books in a week if I'm really on a roll!)
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Post by heroboy on Mar 14, 2014 10:38:40 GMT -5
I just finished reading Under Heaven by Guy Gavriel Kay. It was a great read, though not quite in my top echelon of Kay's books. I'd rank it fourth behind Lions of Al-Rassan, Sarantine Mosaic, and Last Light of the Sun. I've been trying to decide which Kay book to read next. I was my sisteroommate's entry point to his work via the Fionavar Tapestry, but she's way more into him nowadays and anyway the point is we live together and I'm working my way through her bookshelf as well as my own. Lions of Al-Rassan it is! I should point out that The Fionavar Tapestry is much different than the rest of his work (except for Ysabel which is a sort of sequel to Fionavar though a still very different style). Everything else is a historical fiction set in a slightly different universe, and while there is some magic and other fantastical elements, it is very subtle and does not usually play a large role. For example, The Lions of Al-Rassan is based around the wars between the Christians and Muslims set in Espana, which is basically Moorish Spain, and The Sarantine Mosaic is set in Sarantium which is basically the Byzantine Empire. I should also note that Fionavar and Ysabel are far and away my least favourite works by Kay, and I was barely able to finish Fionavar (I think I took like a two year break between each book). If you want something that is still fantastical, Tigana is a good bet, as it has some historical Italian elements, but is basically about a war between two powerful sorcerors.
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Post by F. U. Hat on Mar 14, 2014 14:48:49 GMT -5
I've been trying to decide which Kay book to read next. I was my sisteroommate's entry point to his work via the Fionavar Tapestry, but she's way more into him nowadays and anyway the point is we live together and I'm working my way through her bookshelf as well as my own. Lions of Al-Rassan it is! I should point out that The Fionavar Tapestry is much different than the rest of his work (except for Ysabel which is a sort of sequel to Fionavar though a still very different style). Everything else is a historical fiction set in a slightly different universe, and while there is some magic and other fantastical elements, it is very subtle and does not usually play a large role. For example, The Lions of Al-Rassan is based around the wars between the Christians and Muslims set in Espana, which is basically Moorish Spain, and The Sarantine Mosaic is set in Sarantium which is basically the Byzantine Empire. I should also note that Fionavar and Ysabel are far and away my least favourite works by Kay, and I was barely able to finish Fionavar (I think I took like a two year break between each book). If you want something that is still fantastical, Tigana is a good bet, as it has some historical Italian elements, but is basically about a war between two powerful sorcerors. My post was a bit misleading. I've also read The Sarantine Mosaic, Last Light of the Sun, Tigana, and Ysabel (his worst book, as far as I'm concerned as well). I've basically been vacillating between Song for Arbonne and Lions of Al-Rassan because for some reason I don't want to read Under Heaven just yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 15:07:57 GMT -5
Finished reading Donna Tartt's The Little Friend a couple days ago. Great book! There are some outstanding passages, and it's a really strong portrait of life in the 1980ish U.S. South. I was basically sold on this book from the time I finished the introduction. Would recommend to just about anyone, really.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Mar 15, 2014 8:17:39 GMT -5
Recently finished Blood Meridian. It is probably just as well that it will never be made into a film, because 90% of what makes it a great novel is McCarthy's writing and I just can't see it translating well to a film. Otherwise you're left with most of a film being a repeating cycle of quietly trudging through severe landscapes, doing horrible things, and the Judge talking at length about stuff. Also, who the hell could they possibly get to play Judge Holden? Maybe if it had been filmed within two years of publication Marlon Brando could have done an acceptable job, maybe. Right now I'm reading Lost to The West by Lars Brownworth. It is a pretty fast overview of the Byzantine Empire's history. While granted it has to skip a bit here and there given all the ground it has to cover, it covers a part of history I'm not as well versed in and is very hard to put down (it has definitely ate into my sleep this week.) Because of what I'm reading now, I think The Sarantine Mosaic (as well as some of the other Guy Gavriel Kay books heroboy and F. U. Hat were just discussing here) is going to be one of the next few books I'll check out. I like to pair fiction and non-fiction books, especially if the fiction is only set in a fictional time and place that borrows from reality (for example pairing A Distant Mirror by Barbara Tuchman with the ASOI&F series).
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Post by Dellarigg on Mar 15, 2014 10:49:05 GMT -5
Zeitoun by Dave Eggers. About 100 pages in to this, and it's a great read so far: tight and propulsive prose, and fascinating 'characters'. Katrina has just started to hit, so things are about to get hairy.
I also have American Gods on my shelf. What's the view on it in these parts? Fantasy in any of its permutations isn't really my thing (can't get going with the Game of Thrones books, for instance, and can only just about tolerate the TV series), but I'm willing to give it a go.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Mar 15, 2014 11:40:25 GMT -5
Hey, I dug Zeitoun! I'm an Eggers fan.
American Gods was our semi-official book club read for December; reaction ranged from "that was pretty good" (me) to better. I don't think anyone disliked it. I'm not a fantasy guy either, so I'm cautiously optimistic for you.
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Post by E.Buzz Miller on Mar 15, 2014 19:26:01 GMT -5
Chabon's Telegraph Avenue. Most people would call it lesser, and I wouldn't argue that from him, but it's much less literary compared to his other stuff, and that's always good in my mind. I'm very much tired of the overly literary and self-important direction a great deal of American novels have headed in.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Mar 16, 2014 9:31:08 GMT -5
Man, Buzz, I just looked that up and saw it described as "a 20th century Middlemarch," which if that's not fucking a book by high expectations I don't know what is. I need to get to Yiddish Policeman's Union.
I've been reading Horatio Alger. Remember that dude? Hung out with teenaged orphan bootblacks in NYC and wrote their stories as rags-to-riches tales, became symbolic of the whole American up-by-the-bootstraps ethos? Turns out that the reason his star has faded a bit, aside from the fact that his books are absolute shit, the other reason is that he was fucking a few of those teenaged orphans. Whoops! Anyway, Ragged Dick is pretty bad and a little gay but it takes place in the same time and place as Scorcese's Gangs of NY (Five Points, 1860s), so I might rewatch that. Might read the book Gangs of New York, while I'm at it - that would be cool.
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