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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 1:05:28 GMT -5
A poll had to be made...for a Shoutbox dispute.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 1:06:10 GMT -5
GEORGE LUCAS CREATED A SUBVERSIVE MASTERPIECE
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Post by Nudeviking on Sept 8, 2017 2:25:07 GMT -5
It can be two things right? Parts of them are good. Parts of them are not good.
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Post by recurringextra on Sept 8, 2017 2:52:50 GMT -5
I remember really enjoying Revenge Of The Sith, but it could have just been because it was better than the other two rather than actually good.
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 8, 2017 4:59:12 GMT -5
I agree with Nude, they have their ups and downs. Despite the poor acting from a kid, the pod racing was very cool. The final fight between Darth Maul of Obi Wan was amazingly choreographed. We all get bogged down in Jar Jar and how they screwed up Anakin's arc, but there are some great Star Wars moments in there. The order 66 montage was beautiful. Even the start of the Jedi fight in the arena was thrilling.
If you think of all the things we wished we knew about Star Wars history and dreamed about after the OT, we got most of what we wished for. Anakin's turn, the clone wars, the fall of the republic. Before the prequels we had never really seen a lightsaber fight between combatants in their prime, much less large groups of Jedi fucking shit up.
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Sept 8, 2017 6:06:31 GMT -5
The best part was when the power went out in the theatre when I saw Phantom Menace.
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Post by LazBro on Sept 8, 2017 7:56:12 GMT -5
They're not good movies, but they're watchable for their better moments. I don't choose them, but I don't find them a chore to get through, either. I would probably go back to Revenge of the Sith before laboring through Rogue One again.
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Sept 8, 2017 8:11:26 GMT -5
Even with RiffTrax, I don't think I could get back through The Phantom Menace. One of the best things about KOTOR is that there are no midichlorians mentions of anything but a living Force.
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Post by Pastafarian on Sept 8, 2017 8:15:25 GMT -5
I couldn't get past how disappointing the first one was so I didn't see the others. From what I've heard I should consider myself lucky for having made that choice.
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Post by Invisible Goat on Sept 8, 2017 8:47:20 GMT -5
Irredeemable cinematic abortions
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 8, 2017 8:50:18 GMT -5
I don't think I'm bringing up anything controversial when I say that the best thing about the prequels is Ewan McGregor.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 8, 2017 8:58:46 GMT -5
There's some decent stuff in there, but the first movie is about 99% filler (some of it good filler, but most of it not), the second movie is about 50% filler (stuff eventually actually happens in this one), and the last one id super-rushed because too much of the story was left to it.
There's a decent story in all that mess, but it's not told very well. The movies don't really work as movies unto themselves.
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Post by The Spice Weasel on Sept 8, 2017 10:26:58 GMT -5
At no point does the relationship between Anakin and Obi Wan resemble the relationship described in the original trilogy. Anakin is portrayed as a sniveling brat instead of an epic hero with a tragic fall from grace.
There are some great set pieces and Ewan McGregor is Ewan McGregor, so I'll watch parts of II and III if it is on. But I never go out of my way to watch them.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Sept 8, 2017 11:01:15 GMT -5
The first ten minutes or so of Revenge of the Sith feel like the only time in all six that CGI technology was finally capable of actually getting what Lucas's imagination wanted up on the screen. The rest of it's pretty dire though.
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Post by fab on Sept 8, 2017 11:34:45 GMT -5
the shitpost thread is over thataway <-------
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Post by fab on Sept 8, 2017 11:43:37 GMT -5
There's some decent stuff in there, but the first movie is about 99% filler (some of it good filler, but most of it not), the second movie is about 50% filler (stuff eventually actually happens in this one), and the last one id super-rushed because too much of the story was left to it. There's a decent story in all that mess, but it's not told very well. The movies don't really work as movies unto themselves. I vaguely recall reading something about a Topher Grace (?!?!) edit that made the prequels watchable. maybe. I still don't want to risk it. I ranted to a coworker in university who claimed Revenge of the Sith "redeemed" the terribleness of the first two that I would never watch it. she took it upon herself to try and get me to do so. there were more entertaining things to do than watch that movie, so I still haven't seen it. huzzah! I remember seeing the Phantom Menace with my dad and a friend who I played violin with as a kid... I was old enough to realize "goddamn, concession stands are crazy expensive" and "man, that movie was kiiiinda terrible and I'm fairly disappointed. fancy visuals aren't much without a story."  |
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 8, 2017 13:35:22 GMT -5
The central issue is that the core-story is the weakest part of the films, i.e. Anakin Skywalker, his origins, struggles and love life. There are plenty of peripheral things going on that are of more interest or entertainment value and goodness knows that Ewan McGregor is brilliant, but something crucial is missing at the heart of it all (or so it is for me).
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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Sept 8, 2017 15:25:04 GMT -5
I was going to say that I don}t really feel like ragging on the prequels because I’m the sort of person who’s gotten into multiple conversations about the Bajoran economy and enjoyed them so who am I to judge when it comes to tedious nerd shit?
But then I started thinking—the “Circle” trilogy in the second season of DS9 is about two hours and fifteen minutes long (three 45 min episodes). That’s about the same length as The Revenge of the Sith. But the Circle trilogy manages to be less cheesy and more mostly better acted than Revenge of the Sith, despite being nineties syndicated TV, and I’ve seen it more times, too. That’s right, pre-Sisko-gets-a-beard, pre-Dominion, boring-ass early-season DS9 >>> the best of the prequels.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 17:12:42 GMT -5
I don't think I'm bringing up anything controversial when I say that the best thing about the prequels is Ewan McGregor. Ummm, the emperor is better. |
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on Sept 8, 2017 19:55:14 GMT -5
I don't think I'm bringing up anything controversial when I say that the best thing about the prequels is Ewan McGregor. Ummm, the emperor is better. There's being contrarian, and there's trolling. This is clearly the latter. |
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Sept 8, 2017 20:17:55 GMT -5
The worst movie is Attack of the Clones, not because we learn how much Anakin hates sand, but because C3PO gets lost in a Rube Goldberg machine factory.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 21:13:39 GMT -5
Ummm, the emperor is better. There's being contrarian, and there's trolling. This is clearly the latter. Or there is neither, and a lot of people who dont outright loathe the prequels actually like the emperor. Ian McDiarmid has been getting praise since Return of the Jedi, how the hell is this trolling? |
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 8, 2017 21:25:42 GMT -5
The consensus as I've observed it is that McDiarmid and McGregor are the two actors who manage to turn in unambiguously good performances. Picking either of them as the best isn't very controversial.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 9, 2017 3:05:58 GMT -5
There's plenty of good ideas behind the prequels, but few of them are well-executed or fun to watch.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 9, 2017 3:07:41 GMT -5
Ian McDiarmid is very good in them though.
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Post by space robot on Sept 9, 2017 15:14:14 GMT -5
I'm in my mid-twenties, so the prequels came out during my Formative Years. I mostly like them because of this; even I find The Phantom Menace boring, but I find plenty to enjoy in both Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.
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Post by Il sole sotto la terra on Sept 9, 2017 20:05:12 GMT -5
There's being contrarian, and there's trolling. This is clearly the latter. Or there is neither, and a lot of people who dont outright loathe the prequels actually like the emperor. Ian McDiarmid has been getting praise since Return of the Jedi, how the hell is this trolling? Palpatine is such a panto villain from the get-go that even Helen Keller was like, "No, don't listen to him Anakin! He's eeeeeevil!" Ewan McGregor as young Alec Guinness as young Obi-Wan is the only decent performance in the whole mess. As for McDiarmid getting praise since Jedi, all I can imagine is critics thinking, "Oh, this guy again. At least we got away from those fucking plush toy tie-ins." |
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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Sept 10, 2017 13:16:09 GMT -5
McDiarmid is the only one who knew exactly what kind of movies they were actually making (very expensive cheese) and acted accordingly, which adds to how entertaining he already was (and kind of works for the character, too, who’s the only one who actually knows what’s going on).
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Sept 11, 2017 10:29:11 GMT -5
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Post by Prole Hole on Sept 28, 2017 16:40:12 GMT -5
I was going to say that I don}t really feel like ragging on the prequels because I’m the sort of person who’s gotten into multiple conversations about the Bajoran economy and enjoyed them so who am I to judge when it comes to tedious nerd shit? But then I started thinking—the “Circle” trilogy in the second season of DS9 is about two hours and fifteen minutes long (three 45 min episodes). That’s about the same length as The Revenge of the Sith. But the Circle trilogy manages to be less cheesy and more mostly better acted than Revenge of the Sith, despite being nineties syndicated TV, and I’ve seen it more times, too. That’s right, pre-Sisko-gets-a-beard, pre-Dominion, boring-ass early-season DS9 >>> the best of the prequels. Fine, fine, I'm late, but I'd just like to point out that a) The Circle is rubbish b) it can't have worked well enough that the producers ever felt like doing a three-parter again (instead giving way to greater serialisation, and quite right too) and c) well, yeah DS9 is better than the best of the prequels, because almost everything is. But also DS9 is better than most sci-fi (by no means all though - it cracks my top ten, but not my top five). I made a real, genuine and sincere attempt to sit down and watch Revenge Of The Sith about two years ago and give it a fair crack of the whip. I put my prejudices to one side, I poured myself a really nice glass of Pinot Noir, and I sat down to watch it on a big-ass TV, 5.1 surround system, blu-ray... the works.. Sure, it's not the same as seeing it in the pictures, but it's the best alternative. I made it to about the twenty minute mark. The opening sequences are genuinely impressive, but the second anyone has to act beyond doing stunts or "he went that way!" the whole things just crumbles. I really, really tried. But sorry, no. Not even Ewan McGreggor could save things. If we have to have Star Wars spin-offs, seeing him a decent fucking movie, playing a character he clear loves, in a script that isn't complete shit, would make it worthwhile. For the rest of this... who cares? I can't even get upset or angry at the prequels - they're just dull. Really, really dull. |
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