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Post by Albert Fish Taco on May 29, 2018 12:27:46 GMT -5
My thoughts are pretty similar to everyone else's thoughts. It was better than I feared it would be, but not something I"m chomping at the bit to see again. I have to admit, I spent the car ride home last night trying to figure out exactly where this fell in the timeline after Maul showed up, since I hadn't watched the animated series and assumed he was toast after Phantom Menace. (as an aside, this is the second consecutive blockbuster featuring a character who survives being bisected at the waist. Now that's a fun trend!). I'm beginning to realize that these side movies seem to be designed to answer questions about the "mistakes" from Episode IV. Rogue One answered "How come the Death Star was built with such a huge design flaw?" and this one answers "How come Han used a measurement of distance as a measurement of time?". Maybe the next one will answer "How come the Empire solders let the escape capsule go, knowing full well that there are sentient robots that won't show up on life scanners?" Or maybe "How did Darth Vader not notice that his stepbrother was raising a kid with his own original last name who would be his kid's exact age, and that an old guy with the last name Kenobi lived nearby?" Bc I don't remember the Phantom Menace at all (not even 100% sure I've even seen it on cable), I forgot what happened to Darth Maul. Now I regret not having seen any tumbles referencing that alongside "Walk Hard" quotes. |
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on May 29, 2018 14:49:05 GMT -5
My thoughts are pretty similar to everyone else's thoughts. It was better than I feared it would be, but not something I"m chomping at the bit to see again. I have to admit, I spent the car ride home last night trying to figure out exactly where this fell in the timeline after Maul showed up, since I hadn't watched the animated series and assumed he was toast after Phantom Menace. (as an aside, this is the second consecutive blockbuster featuring a character who survives being bisected at the waist. Now that's a fun trend!). I'm beginning to realize that these side movies seem to be designed to answer questions about the "mistakes" from Episode IV. Rogue One answered "How come the Death Star was built with such a huge design flaw?" and this one answers "How come Han used a measurement of distance as a measurement of time?". Maybe the next one will answer "How come the Empire solders let the escape capsule go, knowing full well that there are sentient robots that won't show up on life scanners?" Or maybe "How did Darth Vader not notice that his stepbrother was raising a kid with his own original last name who would be his kid's exact age, and that an old guy with the last name Kenobi lived nearby?" Bc I don't remember the Phantom Menace at all (not even 100% sure I've even seen it on cable), I forgot what happened to Darth Maul. Now I regret not having seen any tumbles referencing that alongside "Walk Hard" quotes. That was the same boat my wife was in, which left my obviously hilarious "Surprised to see Darth Maul again after he was cut in half real bad." to be met with general confusion. Also, she didn't recognize that it was Darth Maul, but that's just because she is super racist and can't tell Dathomirians apart. |
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on May 29, 2018 15:19:01 GMT -5
Bc I don't remember the Phantom Menace at all (not even 100% sure I've even seen it on cable), I forgot what happened to Darth Maul. Now I regret not having seen any tumbles referencing that alongside "Walk Hard" quotes. That was the same boat my wife was in, which left my obviously hilarious "Surprised to see Darth Maul again after he was cut in half real bad." to be met with general confusion. Also, she didn't recognize that it was Darth Maul, but that's just because she is super racist and can't tell Dathomirians apart. THE WRONG SITH DIED! |
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on May 30, 2018 8:09:28 GMT -5
Side note: did anyone else expect Enfys Nest (the young warrior woman toward the end) to reveal she was Beckett and Val's daughter? Granted it's such a cliche/trope and also Star Wars. But yeah I was expecting that.
Also, the names in Star Wars are so goofy that half the time I can't tell if they're referring to a person or a group; I thought Enfys Nest was the whole warrior group until I saw the credits.
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on May 30, 2018 8:36:30 GMT -5
Side note: did anyone else expect Enfys Nest (the young warrior woman toward the end) to reveal she was Beckett and Val's daughter? Granted it's such a cliche/trope and also Star Wars. But yeah I was expecting that.
For a good chunk of the movie I thought Enfys Nest was going to be Qira. Then I thought, when she took her helmet off, that she was Beckett and Val's daughter. Probably both because the actress had a mixed-race look and that type of "twist" seems very Star Warsy. I guess random woman who I guess is the start of the Rebellion is fine. Han Solo's heroism and selflessness helping to start funding the Rebellion is a bit too pat.
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Post by pairesta on May 30, 2018 9:19:03 GMT -5
Side note: did anyone else expect Enfys Nest (the young warrior woman toward the end) to reveal she was Beckett and Val's daughter? Granted it's such a cliche/trope and also Star Wars. But yeah I was expecting that. Also, the names in Star Wars are so goofy that half the time I can't tell if they're referring to a person or a group; I thought Enfys Nest was the whole warrior group until I saw the credits. I didn't think that fast, but the way the camera lingered on her I thought she was somebody we were supposed to recognize, then, yeah, waited the rest of the movie for her reveal to be in some way related to one of the characters onscreen. |
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Post by MarkInTexas on May 30, 2018 9:43:27 GMT -5
I'm assuming the camera lingered because we were supposed to all be just shocked that the leader of the deadly marauders would turn out to be a young woman.
Speaking of Star Wars names, given their usual insanity, I'm wondering how a perfectly normal name like Tobias Beckett managed to slip through.
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Post by The Spice Weasel on May 30, 2018 9:57:50 GMT -5
Also, the names in Star Wars are so goofy that half the time I can't tell if they're referring to a person or a group; I thought Enfys Nest was the whole warrior group until I saw the credits. They seem to get goofier with each passing movie. They are almost in Bond Girl territory at this point. My first trip to Malaysia I thought I had discovered one of Lucas' original inspirations for names, or at least the inspiration for a lot of the original EU. Bandar Tasik Selatan? Bestari Jaya? I judged every road sign based on how well I could drop it into the SW universe. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 30, 2018 10:15:49 GMT -5
Side note: did anyone else expect Enfys Nest (the young warrior woman toward the end) to reveal she was Beckett and Val's daughter? Granted it's such a cliche/trope and also Star Wars. But yeah I was expecting that. Also, the names in Star Wars are so goofy that half the time I can't tell if they're referring to a person or a group; I thought Enfys Nest was the whole warrior group until I saw the credits. Honestly, until I read this post I STILL thought Enfys Nest was the name of the group. |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on May 30, 2018 16:48:47 GMT -5
Side note: did anyone else expect Enfys Nest (the young warrior woman toward the end) to reveal she was Beckett and Val's daughter? Granted it's such a cliche/trope and also Star Wars. But yeah I was expecting that. Also, the names in Star Wars are so goofy that half the time I can't tell if they're referring to a person or a group; I thought Enfys Nest was the whole warrior group until I saw the credits. Yes, I thought it was the name of the whole group, and I am even pretty good at Star Wars names, too. I didn't expect her to be their daughter, although you're right, it's a very Star Wars thing. But omgosh she was so cute! I am always jealous of that freckle/hair combination. look i'm a chick okay i can be shallow about how cute another chick was
thandie was rockin that fro, too |
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on May 30, 2018 19:30:29 GMT -5
Side note: did anyone else expect Enfys Nest (the young warrior woman toward the end) to reveal she was Beckett and Val's daughter? Granted it's such a cliche/trope and also Star Wars. But yeah I was expecting that. Also, the names in Star Wars are so goofy that half the time I can't tell if they're referring to a person or a group; I thought Enfys Nest was the whole warrior group until I saw the credits. Yes, I thought it was the name of the whole group, and I am even pretty good at Star Wars names, too. I didn't expect her to be their daughter, although you're right, it's a very Star Wars thing. But omgosh she was so cute! I am always jealous of that freckle/hair combination. look i'm a chick okay i can be shallow about how cute another chick was
thandie was rockin that fro, tooWe are always allowed to admire how cute other women are, and you're right, she was/is very cute.  And it was fun to see Thandie in that role, since we've been watching a lot of Westworld lately. |
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Post by Celebith on Jun 3, 2018 19:26:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn’t hate it. It was adequate. I was surprised to find that Emilia Clarke has learned a couple more facial expressions, & yeah, the last thing name was cutesy bullshit. ”the 10 minutes that included the kessel run were good because there wasn't any need to pay attention to the poor acting and political injections from kathleen kennedy.” I don’t...I have no idea what the fuck that is supposed to mean. What Political interjections? Is there a Kathleen Kennedy MRA hategroup? Boy howdy, is there ever. |
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Post by Celebith on Jun 3, 2018 19:34:00 GMT -5
Man, I post on the Last Movie Watched Thread only to come here and discover that I was (inadvertently, I swear) paraphrasing what everyone's been saying over here. Yeah, it was fine. It was cringily fan service-y in many spots, it was surprisingly poignant in others, but mostly it was just a straightforward popcorn flick. I'm curious to know why the box office is missing the mark so much, as Solo seems genetically engineered to provide Star Wars fans with precisely what they want. Maybe Star Wars fatigue? Maybe residual backlash over TLJ? Maybe people are just that upset to see someone else as Han Solo? It might be a combination of timing and being a side-story With all the end of school year stuff and other things going on, I didn't have time to see it last week. And knowing that even the worst spoilers aren't going to ruin my enjoyment or appreciation of any other movies in the series removed any real time pressure to see it. Missing Infinity War on opening weekend means you might learn who lived or died before you get to experience it yourself. Missing Solo on opening weekend means you don't get to see Donglover cape it up for a few more days. |
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Post by Celebith on Jun 3, 2018 19:47:49 GMT -5
Almost all of the reviews I've seen / read so far have used the same phrase - It was fine. And it was. Non-Harrison Ford did a good job as Han, without trying to be Harrison Ford as Han. Chewie was good, although it was obvious when he was going to make his appearance. Donglover was great as Billy Dee Williams as Lando. Paul Bettany was good as the bad guy. The Rocket Raccoon tie-in to the MCU was pretty good, even if they did give him 2 extra arms.
I'm again glad that I avoided all the trailers / spoilers. aside from the silly name, L3-37 (what a haxxor!) was a great part of the movie. Rogue One shifted the way the movies dealt with the force, and Solo shifted the way they deal with droids. It was also cute that she wasn't entirely wrong about Lando.
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Post by Jimmy James on Jun 3, 2018 20:44:49 GMT -5
Entertaining enough- I liked the train heist. Chewie and L3 were my favorites. There were a few eye-rolling moments, like the origin of the "Solo" surname, per Invisible Goat's comment earlier. I wasn't sure what to make of the character of Han himself- my impression from the original Star Wars is that Han's kind of an asshole just in it for himself, who gradually comes around to doing the right thing and joining the Rebellion, (presumably with some prodding from Chewbacca) but here they want him to be the good guy already. There are moments of what I think Han should be like, like when he shoots Woody Harrelson, but I feel like they made him too soft here.
There was a series of Lando Calrissian novels, from the same publisher as the Han Solo Adventures pairesta mentioned before- I feel like this was from a period where the Star Wars EU was a lot looser, and their science fiction seemed more fantastical than what followed in the Thrawn Trilogy / Jedi Academy trilogy books in the 90's. I thought I picked up a few references to these- the Starcave of ThonBoka and the Mindharp of Sharu- in Lando's video recordings he was making.
Also, my whole time reading Star Wars EU novels, I had been pronouncing it as "SAH-bick" in my head instead of "sa-BAHK" |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jun 4, 2018 9:56:11 GMT -5
IMPORTANT QUESTION: Does Lando's relationship with L3 raise some questions about what he and Lobot got up to?
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Post by nowimnothing on Jun 6, 2018 17:00:07 GMT -5
IMPORTANT QUESTION: Does Lando's relationship with L3 raise some questions about what he and Lobot got up to? I did like the integration of the droid into the Falcon which explains C3P0's comment about it's peculiar dialect. Overall though, there was probably too much fan service. Too many lingering shots of things like the hidden compartments in the floor. Every time the camera stopped moving I was looking for the significance. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 21:07:16 GMT -5
My theory is that Lord and Miller L3 would have been a Foxy Brown blaxploitation type character to match with Lando.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jun 9, 2018 21:31:36 GMT -5
My theory is that Lord and Miller L3 would have been a Foxy Brown blaxploitation type character to match with Lando. Did they recast her after they left? |
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