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Post by Celebith on Jul 4, 2019 19:38:26 GMT -5
Neither of them understand human relationships, but only one can be the worst.
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Jul 4, 2019 20:24:21 GMT -5
John Hughes.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 5, 2019 1:38:37 GMT -5
Lucas has to win based solely on Attack of the Clones. Dear God, that is so bad.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jul 5, 2019 5:53:41 GMT -5
I'm torn between Michael Bay and Zack Snyder.
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Post by Celebith on Jul 7, 2019 16:27:41 GMT -5
I'm torn between Michael Bay and Zack Snyder. Bay, maybe, but Snyder isn't even trying. Or isn't trying to do anything more than string together iconic moments, at least. |
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jul 8, 2019 9:16:11 GMT -5
Cameron has his issues, but Kyle's love for Sarah Connor's photograph in T1, Ripley's (motherly) love for Newt in Aliens, and Tom Arnold's unrequited love for Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies should exclude him from this list.
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Jul 8, 2019 12:19:27 GMT -5
Lucas has to win based solely on Attack of the Clones. Dear God, that is so bad. You're just saying that because you're surrounded by sand, which is rough and coarse and gets everywhere. |
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Post by Hachiman on Jul 8, 2019 21:22:56 GMT -5
Lucas just can't write love stories. We have Attack of the Clones for Exhibit A and for Exhibit B, we have Indiana Jones and Miriam's creepy backstory in Raiders of the Lost Ark. "I was a child!" "You knew what you were doing."  |
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Post by Celebith on Jul 8, 2019 22:28:01 GMT -5
Cameron has his issues, but Kyle's love for Sarah Connor's photograph in T1, Ripley's (motherly) love for Newt in Aliens, and Tom Arnold's unrequited love for Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies should exclude him from this list. the Arnold / Ahnold ship in TL is pretty cute. |
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jul 11, 2019 15:35:34 GMT -5
I'm torn between Michael Bay and Zack Snyder. That does sound like a pretty awful love triangle, but still a better love story than Attack of the Clones. |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Aug 25, 2019 13:13:30 GMT -5
Cameron has his issues, but Kyle's love for Sarah Connor's photograph in T1, Ripley's (motherly) love for Newt in Aliens, and Tom Arnold's unrequited love for Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies should exclude him from this list. i've said that Cameron doesn't really write women as "WOMEN", he just writes them as *gasp* people - until he is required by some situation to think "oh this is a GIRL" OR how would a ~lady~ react?" and then it's all shit. Like - Sarah Connor's roommate, Ginger, skates perilously close to nothing but a sexpot to be set up as The Total Opposite Of Sarah because he's writing "overtly sexy girl" and nothing else. (And to be fair, all my Ginger-appreciation has come retroactively; when I first saw it (80s), my reaction was just "kinda slutty girl", which I am positive is what he was going for.) Rose in Titanic has her good aspects, but most of her awful ones are clearly Cameron thinking "now what if I was a teenaged girl mad at my mom and I met a cute boy?" It's like if he's not looking directly at a romantic subplot that he writes women just fine, and often even really great - obviously Ripley, also Vasquez, John's foster mom in T2, umm...what's her name in The Abyss (I don't remember enough about Avatar or True Lies to say anything), but as soon as eros comes into it - just the worst. And it's specifically the "unmarried people being attracted budding romance" type of subplot that is shit. He's not terrible at already-attached or married couples. |
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