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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 30, 2020 20:39:30 GMT -5
So I thought that first episode was quite good.
So Timothy Olyphant was quite good, in a part that seemed written for him. Apparently that character debuts in one of the new canon novels, but he fit into the show well.
I really like what they're doing with the Tuskens, between the first season episode and this.
And Boba Fett (probably? Could be another clone) showing up at the end was, while not completely unexpected, still cool to see.
We're seeing a lot of EU stuff canonized on this show.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Oct 30, 2020 21:03:59 GMT -5
Do we need to hide spoilers? Or is this an “expect spoilers” board? THE MARSHAL lolololol why yes it is. Dude that Krayt dragon was AMAZING. idk is that how they’re always supposed to have moved around? Like...Tremors? I mean I dug it, but that’s definitely what came to mind. I found it deeply hilarious that the armor was so ill-fitting on Cobb Vanth. Well shit - I was gonna say that it’s kinda racist to call people by their species name, but then I googled & apparently Weequay don’t generally take names, so I learned something, and am even more impressed with how balls-out fanboy Favreau is going. Also I will be irritated af if that IS Fett & not a clone.
I would like to formally register my approval of Olyphant’s continuing ascent into silver-er fox.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 31, 2020 1:06:57 GMT -5
WOO, this was awesome! Olyphant was great, as everyone else has been saying. I am entertained by the fact that both he and George Lucas are from Modesto. I'm assuming that WAS Fett at the end, and am now wondering how they're going to change the story from the stupid Expanded Universe/Legends version, where Dengar the Toilet-Paper Mummy bounty hunter rescues Fett from the sarlacc, and Fett serves as the best man in Dengar's wedding ? I loved Cobb's pod-speeder, but I also was wondering, "They didn't really intentionally make that look like ANAKIN'S former podracer engine, did they?" Having Anakin's podracer parts AND Fett's armor would be ridiculous. I really loved the alliance with the Tusken Raiders.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 31, 2020 7:32:39 GMT -5
Personally, I'm okay with this being an "Expect spoilers" board, but I didn't want to make a unilateral decision on that, so I figured better safe than sorry.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Nov 1, 2020 0:08:49 GMT -5
Oh god.
The young uns on Tumblr have discovered Timothy Olyphant. It...did not consciously occur to me they wouldn’t know who he was, but mostly there’s not necessarily a reason anyone under the age of 22 would.
Did have the knee jerk desire to throw hands with someone who referred to him as a “discount Chris Pine” child don’t make me cosplay Seth Bullock on your face.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 2, 2020 18:05:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 6, 2020 18:08:30 GMT -5
Episode 2 was likely the weakest episode the show's done so far, at least to us, and one that seemed fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things (though both the ship's fate and the interaction with the New Republic might become important later). Not terrible or anything, but not really leaning into what I like about the series. I suspect they were trying to broaden it up with a horror episode, and I don't know that the genres mashed up that well.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Nov 6, 2020 19:55:44 GMT -5
Episode 2 was likely the weakest episode the show's done so far, at least to us, and one that seemed fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things (though both the ship's fate and the interaction with the New Republic might become important later). Not terrible or anything, but not really leaning into what I like about the series. I suspect they were trying to broaden it up with a horror episode, and I don't know that the genres mashed up that well. This is the second episode that's brought to life alien creatures from the cartoons, this time the spiders from Rebels. I liked it! STOP EATING THE EGGS!
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Nov 11, 2020 23:33:12 GMT -5
Episode 2 was likely the weakest episode the show's done so far, at least to us, and one that seemed fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things (though both the ship's fate and the interaction with the New Republic might become important later). Not terrible or anything, but not really leaning into what I like about the series. I suspect they were trying to broaden it up with a horror episode, and I don't know that the genres mashed up that well. Yeah, I wasn’t quite sure what we were supposed to get out of the interaction with the X-Wings, other than “welp, we’ve shown a bunch of former Imps, time to show Rebels!” I liked the Frog Lady - although tbh she looked more like a lizard to me- but I didn’t find the egg thing an attempt at horror so much as a weird dark humor misstep. Now the things in the sauna cave - THAT’S HOW YOU GET CHEST-BURSTERS, BABY YODA. DON’T EAT XENOMORPH EGGS . And I’m gonna go ahead & say no more Amy Sedaris; she’s getting irritating.
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Post by Prole Hole on Nov 13, 2020 4:27:21 GMT -5
Episode 2 was likely the weakest episode the show's done so far, at least to us, and one that seemed fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things (though both the ship's fate and the interaction with the New Republic might become important later). Not terrible or anything, but not really leaning into what I like about the series. I suspect they were trying to broaden it up with a horror episode, and I don't know that the genres mashed up that well. Yeah, I wasn’t quite sure what we were supposed to get out of the interaction with the X-Wings, other than “welp, we’ve shown a bunch of former Imps, time to show Rebels!” I liked the Frog Lady - although tbh she looked more like a lizard to me- but I didn’t find the egg thing an attempt at horror so much as a weird dark humor misstep. Now the things in the sauna cave - THAT’S HOW YOU GET CHEST-BURSTERS, BABY YODA. DON’T EAT XENOMORPH EGGS . And I’m gonna go ahead & say no more Amy Sedaris; she’s getting irritating. Episode 2 wasn't the strongest but since it had a cameo from Appa from Kim's Convenience I'm OK with it. Otherwise it felt like marking time a bit.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 13, 2020 18:05:42 GMT -5
Episode 3 may have been my favorite episode of the season so far; seeing Bo-Katan in live-action was great, Mando getting further hints of how he might have been brought up by a group of fanatics was probably a little overdue (I get the feeling he knows a lot less about Mandalorian culture in general than he thinks he knows), and the story in general just worked. Very fun, and Bryce Dallas Howard is, I think, improving as a director (not that her first one was bad, just this one was better). I'm also always happy to see Mon Calamari. And Ahsoka getting namedropped makes me think we're not far off from seeing her.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 14, 2020 13:02:24 GMT -5
Hey look, it’s Titus Welliver! This show, good at casting it is. So I’m guessing everyone talking about the “mythology” was some EU/cartoon stuff I have no context for and not a joke about Katee Sackhoff suddenly appearing to lead her people home. She played a character that was very significant in the Mandalorian arc that played out over Clone Wars and Rebels. She had voiced the character in animation as well. She used to have the Darksaber that we saw Moff Gideon with at the end of Season 1.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 14, 2020 21:48:20 GMT -5
It was no fishing droid, Roy Batty's Pet Dove, but I did like this week’s converted AT-AT seaport crane
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 15, 2020 19:54:29 GMT -5
Having read some of the recap pieces of this week...I hope as they continue to add in characters from the cartoons and Disney canon books/comics as they clearly are going to do, that they keep doing it in this way where you don’t feel forced to go watch or read them to know wtf is going on. More power to the people that loved Clone Wars and Rebels, I’m just not going to get to it.
Speaking of the comics though...is Doctor Aphra still alive and kicking in Marvel’s stuff, because there’s a character that would be fun in this corner of Star Wars...
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 15, 2020 20:33:30 GMT -5
Having read some of the recap pieces of this week...I hope as they continue to add in characters from the cartoons and Disney canon books/comics as they clearly are going to do, that they keep doing it in this way where you don’t feel forced to go watch or read them to know wtf is going on. More power to the people that loved Clone Wars and Rebels, I’m just not going to get to it. Speaking of the comics though...is Doctor Aphra still alive and kicking in Marvel’s stuff, because there’s a character that would be fun in this corner of Star Wars... As of the most up-to-date stuff I've read (Marvel Unlimited is on a six-month delay), yes.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Nov 16, 2020 21:15:56 GMT -5
they keep doing it in this way where you don’t feel forced to go watch or read them to know wtf is going on. Yes this please. I don’t care about the EU/cartoon Star Wars nerd shit. Let me enjoy this as a casual fan (and again, more than a bit of jealousy that the people at CBS in charge of that other franchise have somehow, despite throwing out much of the old Trek tone, have also done a poor job of casual fan—or even “hasn’t watched this in years”—fanning easy).
Although I did have no clue the thing Gideon used to cut his way out of the fighter was anything special. I just assumed that it was more like some kind of tool, just with tech similar to a lightsaber—I light-saw-ber, if you will.
Yeah, it's basically Excalibur for the planet of Mandalore. Whomever has it can be the King/Queen/whatever.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 18, 2020 9:34:25 GMT -5
Yes this please. I don’t care about the EU/cartoon Star Wars nerd shit. Let me enjoy this as a casual fan (and again, more than a bit of jealousy that the people at CBS in charge of that other franchise have somehow, despite throwing out much of the old Trek tone, have also done a poor job of casual fan—or even “hasn’t watched this in years”—fanning easy).
Although I did have no clue the thing Gideon used to cut his way out of the fighter was anything special. I just assumed that it was more like some kind of tool, just with tech similar to a lightsaber—I light-saw-ber, if you will.
Yeah, it's basically Excalibur for the planet of Mandalore. Whomever has it can be the King/Queen/whatever. I do kind of love that the Star Wars brain trust just went full 4th Graders Bashing Action Figures Together. "What if there was a DARK saber?!!" Never change Star Wars.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Nov 23, 2020 20:06:31 GMT -5
What kinda rude-ass motherfucker meets someone from Alderaan and immediately asks, “So did ya lose anyone?” He’s lucky he didn’t end up in the dirt with a mouthful of dental problems.
Although I have always assumed there are some deeply sketch bar that invented a drink called an “Alderaanean Blast” which is the cause of many a fist-fight.
Also we are solidly into the part of the season where I make FAR too many incoherent squeaking noises at the baby OMG he doesn’t know his colors yet, Mando! Have you even gone over the alphabet with him?
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 24, 2020 9:23:53 GMT -5
What kinda rude-ass motherfucker meets someone from Alderaan and immediately asks, “So did ya lose anyone?” He’s lucky he didn’t end up in the dirt with a mouthful of dental problems. Although I have always assumed there are some deeply sketch bar that invented a drink called an “Alderaanean Blast” which is the cause of many a fist-fight. Also we are solidly into the part of the season where I make FAR too many incoherent squeaking noises at the baby OMG he doesn’t know his colors yet, Mando! Have you even gone over the alphabet with him? I found that exchange mind-boggling as well. I mean, I suppose it's possible that a planet like Alderaan would have a galactic diaspora and someone could theoretically be like, an Alderaanean-Coruscantian and they claim the heritage even though you have to go back a few generations to find any relatives that actually lived there. But that seems like an unnecessary stretch when...you know...the whole planet got blown up.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 24, 2020 15:27:27 GMT -5
What kinda rude-ass motherfucker meets someone from Alderaan and immediately asks, “So did ya lose anyone?” He’s lucky he didn’t end up in the dirt with a mouthful of dental problems. Although I have always assumed there are some deeply sketch bar that invented a drink called an “Alderaanean Blast” which is the cause of many a fist-fight. Also we are solidly into the part of the season where I make FAR too many incoherent squeaking noises at the baby OMG he doesn’t know his colors yet, Mando! Have you even gone over the alphabet with him? I found that exchange mind-boggling as well. I mean, I suppose it's possible that a planet like Alderaan would have a galactic diaspora and someone could theoretically be like, an Alderaanean-Coruscantian and they claim the heritage even though you have to go back a few generations to find any relatives that actually lived there. But that seems like an unnecessary stretch when...you know...the whole planet got blown up. I read it as him trying to guilt her into joining. "I know you lost a bunch of people to those bastards, don't you want to finish kicking their heads in?"
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 24, 2020 15:36:16 GMT -5
I found that exchange mind-boggling as well. I mean, I suppose it's possible that a planet like Alderaan would have a galactic diaspora and someone could theoretically be like, an Alderaanean-Coruscantian and they claim the heritage even though you have to go back a few generations to find any relatives that actually lived there. But that seems like an unnecessary stretch when...you know...the whole planet got blown up. I read it as him trying to guilt her into joining. "I know you lost a bunch of people to those bastards, don't you want to finish kicking their heads in?" It's a nice character touch if the old timer getting stuck with outer rim patrol duty having absolutely no tact or people skills was intentional, but I doubt it.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Nov 24, 2020 17:44:39 GMT -5
I read it as him trying to guilt her into joining. "I know you lost a bunch of people to those bastards, don't you want to finish kicking their heads in?" It's a nice character touch if the old timer getting stuck with outer rim patrol duty having absolutely no tact or people skills was intentional, but I doubt it. I could go either way, I think, but they could have made it slightly more obvious. But last season almost every goddamn person was all “OH HEY TAKE OFF YOUR HELMET HA HA HA,” to Mando, which is also some rude-ass bullshit, and then I realized that at least was probably depressingly accurate, since people do it all the time to men in turbans and women in hijabs.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Nov 28, 2020 1:23:09 GMT -5
Okay, I resubscribed to Disney+ on the monthly plan until this season ends. And those two episodes were AWESOME! I really love what they're doing with The Child. If their plan is to tie the movies, shows and games together, then this is a great way to do it. To have The Child suffering from a similar trauma to Cal Kestis from Jedi:Fallen Order, where he had begun Jedi training, but lost his connection to The Force during the purge and the subsequent fleeing/hiding from the Empire. Also, I love seeing Ahsoka, as well as cameos by her owl and a loth-cat from Rebels, and of course she's HUNTING DOWN THRAWN! I really hope this ends up leading to the return of a certain missing person as well...
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 28, 2020 9:41:13 GMT -5
I liked this week’s episode, but it did start veering into the territory I was worried about before, where the playing to people who watched every cartoon, played every game, watched every book becomes too much. They aren’t there yet, but you could see it going that way.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 28, 2020 11:27:17 GMT -5
I liked this week’s episode, but it did start veering into the territory I was worried about before, where the playing to people who watched every cartoon, played every game, watched every book becomes too much. They aren’t there yet, but you could see it going that way. I think this is less fan-service and more Filoni finally getting to finish a story he started telling in Clone Wars, and he needs to get certain pieces on the board for that to play out properly. My suspicion, based on what we're seeing both onscreen and in the behind-the-scenes material, is that Favreau came to Lucasfilm with an idea for an episodic, Mando-as-Ronin story, but not an overarching plot, and Dave Filoni saw it as the perfect vessel to finish the Mandalorian story that he started telling in Clone Wars and continued in Rebels. To do that, he needed to bring a few characters in. At the same time, I suspect we're also seeing the seeds planted for an eventual Ahsoka spinoff, where we see her story, which intersects with the Mandalorian one occasionally but isn't really part of the same story (at least I don't think it is), and they're using they're single highest-profile thing to do it. As soon as we started heating that they cast Rosario Dawson, it sounded like that wasn't for a one-off episode. As a result, we're getting a bunch of stuff set up in the second season of The Mandalorian, now that it's a certified hit, with the intention of it paying off later. So it's less "here's something nice for the fans who watched the other shows," and more "here's the characters that are going to be really important in the future." My guess is we're probably going to have Bo Katan in every episode of one of the upcoming seasons, as she drags Mando into her campaign to recapture Mandalore. Thrawn may well be a part of this, too - he could be the one who hired IG-11, and I suspect that he's either Gideon's boss or rival.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 28, 2020 11:35:28 GMT -5
I liked this week’s episode, but it did start veering into the territory I was worried about before, where the playing to people who watched every cartoon, played every game, watched every book becomes too much. They aren’t there yet, but you could see it going that way. I think this is less fan-service and more Filoni finally getting to finish a story he started telling in Clone Wars, and he needs to get certain pieces on the board for that to play out properly. My suspicion, based on what we're seeing both onscreen and in the behind-the-scenes material, is that Favreau came to Lucasfilm with an idea for an episodic, Mando-as-Ronin story, but not an overarching plot, and Dave Filoni saw it as the perfect vessel to finish the Mandalorian story that he started telling in Clone Wars and continued in Rebels. To do that, he needed to bring a few characters in. At the same time, I suspect we're also seeing the seeds planted for an eventual Ahsoka spinoff, where we see her story, which intersects with the Mandalorian one occasionally but isn't really part of the same story (at least I don't think it is), and they're using they're single highest-profile thing to do it. As soon as we started heating that they cast Rosario Dawson, it sounded like that wasn't for a one-off episode. As a result, we're getting a bunch of stuff set up in the second season of The Mandalorian, now that it's a certified hit, with the intention of it paying off later. So it's less "here's something nice for the fans who watched the other shows," and more "here's the characters that are going to be really important in the future." My guess is we're probably going to have Bo Katan in every episode of one of the upcoming seasons, as she drags Mando into her campaign to recapture Mandalore. Thrawn may well be a part of this, too - he could be the one who hired IG-11, and I suspect that he's either Gideon's boss or rival. I didn’t think it was fan service, really, but I think you did hit on the part I disliked. The Bo-Katan introduction was handled much better, imo. That felt like any of the other interesting guest characters that intersected with Mando and it just happened this one was from the Clone Wars cartoon. Contrast with this episode which, right from the intro, very much felt like them hijacking the show to just tell an Ahsoka Tano story. And it also had that lesser-MCU entry problem of being more about setting up three other things than its own story.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Nov 28, 2020 11:51:06 GMT -5
I think this is less fan-service and more Filoni finally getting to finish a story he started telling in Clone Wars, and he needs to get certain pieces on the board for that to play out properly. My suspicion, based on what we're seeing both onscreen and in the behind-the-scenes material, is that Favreau came to Lucasfilm with an idea for an episodic, Mando-as-Ronin story, but not an overarching plot, and Dave Filoni saw it as the perfect vessel to finish the Mandalorian story that he started telling in Clone Wars and continued in Rebels. To do that, he needed to bring a few characters in. At the same time, I suspect we're also seeing the seeds planted for an eventual Ahsoka spinoff, where we see her story, which intersects with the Mandalorian one occasionally but isn't really part of the same story (at least I don't think it is), and they're using they're single highest-profile thing to do it. As soon as we started heating that they cast Rosario Dawson, it sounded like that wasn't for a one-off episode. As a result, we're getting a bunch of stuff set up in the second season of The Mandalorian, now that it's a certified hit, with the intention of it paying off later. So it's less "here's something nice for the fans who watched the other shows," and more "here's the characters that are going to be really important in the future." My guess is we're probably going to have Bo Katan in every episode of one of the upcoming seasons, as she drags Mando into her campaign to recapture Mandalore. Thrawn may well be a part of this, too - he could be the one who hired IG-11, and I suspect that he's either Gideon's boss or rival. I didn’t think it was fan service, really, but I think you did hit on the part I disliked. The Bo-Katan introduction was handled much better, imo. That felt like any of the other interesting guest characters that intersected with Mando and it just happened this one was from the Clone Wars cartoon. Contrast with this episode which, right from the intro, very much felt like them hijacking the show to just tell an Ahsoka Tano story. And it also had that lesser-MCU entry problem of being more about setting up three other things than its own story. That's probably a fair criticism; as a fan of the character already, it didn't really bother me, but I could see how someone might think that the show felt like it had been hijacked. I think this was the first time Mando wasn't in the cold open at all.
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Post by LazBro on Nov 30, 2020 23:27:35 GMT -5
Gracious, "The Jedi" is one of the prettiest things I have ever seen. What a good looking show. I couldn't find the perfect screenshot, I would have preferred an earlier moment from it, but this scene in particular was just gorgeous. Look at that set and/or digital background or whatever. Such attention to detail. Such framing.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Dec 4, 2020 18:28:42 GMT -5
Boba getting his Vader-in-Rogue-One scene was pretty awesome. And it looks like they're building up to a huge, two-part finale. I can't wait.
I do wonder if a Jedi showed up like four hours later wondering where the hell everybody went.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Dec 6, 2020 12:23:52 GMT -5
I’m not super on top of what’s canon these days but...Boba feeling compelled to keep helping Mando even after he got what he wanted feels a bit at odds with the amoral bounty hunter of the past, yea?
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