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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 28, 2021 9:22:42 GMT -5
My seven-year-old self is still impatiently awaiting a live-action Gambit in the X-Men line-up.
My present self would also like to see a live-action Gambit in the X-Men line-up, because I never claimed to have good taste. I just want to watch a dude throw exploding cards and quipping in the world's worst Cajun accent. Is that really too much to ask?
Didn't they have a live-action Gambit in X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Played by Tim Riggins? I ask because I have not seen that movie, and from the clips and bits I have seen I have no desire to see that movie. I'm perfectly fine with abjuring that movie from the multiverse in fact. They did, and you're not missing much. Well, technically, you're missing an entire movie, but most of it is very bad. |
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Sept 28, 2021 9:29:29 GMT -5
Didn't they have a live-action Gambit in X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Played by Tim Riggins? I ask because I have not seen that movie, and from the clips and bits I have seen I have no desire to see that movie. I'm perfectly fine with abjuring that movie from the multiverse in fact. They did, and you're not missing much. Well, technically, you're missing an entire movie, but most of it is very bad. I was hammered when I saw that movie, so I had absolutely no recollection of QB1 as Gambit. Or much of anything else. I feel like that's probably better than actually having memories of the film.
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on Sept 28, 2021 12:15:59 GMT -5
They did, and you're not missing much. Well, technically, you're missing an entire movie, but most of it is very bad. I was hammered when I saw that movie, so I had absolutely no recollection of QB1 as Gambit. Or much of anything else. I feel like that's probably better than actually having memories of the film.
Actually, Tim Riggins wasn't the quarterback, he was a full back. </adopts Comic Book Guy voice>
Yeah, and that Gambit was terrible. I mean, the whole movie was terrible and John Carter of Mars didn't have the swagger to salvage it. Still, very happy we never got the Channing Tatum starring Gambit movie he kept trying to get off the ground. |
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Sept 28, 2021 12:25:05 GMT -5
I was hammered when I saw that movie, so I had absolutely no recollection of QB1 as Gambit. Or much of anything else. I feel like that's probably better than actually having memories of the film.
Actually, Tim Riggins wasn't the quarterback, he was a full back. </adopts Comic Book Guy voice>
Yeah, and that Gambit was terrible. I mean, the whole movie was terrible and John Carter of Mars didn't have the swagger to salvage it. Still, very happy we never got the Channing Tatum starring Gambit movie he kept trying to get off the ground. Ah shit, you're right. I was thinking of Jason Street.
Now, the real question: who's our pick for Gambit?
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 28, 2021 12:41:34 GMT -5
I am fixated to the point of distraction in the What If episodes of parsing out which characters are actually being voiced by the actors who played them and which ones have a replacement voice actor.
But I also refuse to look at the screen during the opening credits because I feel like seeing the names of the actors ahead of time (if you know who they play in the MCU) spoils the fun of seeing which characters pop up in each episode.
So I guess what I'm saying is that I am a ridiculous person.
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on Sept 28, 2021 15:54:45 GMT -5
<adopts Comic Book Guy voice>Actually, Tim Riggins wasn't the quarterback, he was a full back. </adopts Comic Book Guy voice>
Yeah, and that Gambit was terrible. I mean, the whole movie was terrible and John Carter of Mars didn't have the swagger to salvage it. Still, very happy we never got the Channing Tatum starring Gambit movie he kept trying to get off the ground. Ah shit, you're right. I was thinking of Jason Street.
Now, the real question: who's our pick for Gambit?
God, I don't know. In my heart of hearts, I wish there was a terrible 90s John Woo/Jean-Claude Van Damme Gambit movie we could all enjoy. But now, I think I'm at a loss of who could play the role well. The killer is really the accent. Now, what we think we want is an over the top Cajun accent like in the cartoon, but that's going to play so terrible live action. Are their any young, roguish actors out there who could p? If so, who are they, why weren't they cast in that Han Solo movie, and why are they Australian? I could see Boyd Holbrook getting cast. He was already in Logan and had a skeevy-ness that I think could translate. |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Sept 29, 2021 22:38:31 GMT -5
Ah shit, you're right. I was thinking of Jason Street.
Now, the real question: who's our pick for Gambit?
God, I don't know. In my heart of hearts, I wish there was a terrible 90s John Woo/Jean-Claude Van Damme Gambit movie we could all enjoy. But now, I think I'm at a loss of who could play the role well. The killer is really the accent. Now, what we think we want is an over the top Cajun accent like in the cartoon, but that's going to play so terrible live action. Are their any young, roguish actors out there who could p? If so, who are they, why weren't they cast in that Han Solo movie, and why are they Australian? I could see Boyd Holbrook getting cast. He was already in Logan and had a skeevy-ness that I think could translate. Goddammit Goggins is too old. |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Oct 1, 2021 22:14:25 GMT -5
Welp I very much did not enjoy that episode of What If
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 2, 2021 8:22:00 GMT -5
Welp I very much did not enjoy that episode of What If I ended up so checked out that my laundry buzzer went off at the two-thirds mark and I just went and did laundry and let the episode run. The show is pretty much the epitome of this tv trope to me now. I just don't care anymore. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 2, 2021 11:21:37 GMT -5
Welp I very much did not enjoy that episode of What If I ended up so checked out that my laundry buzzer went off at the two-thirds mark and I just went and did laundry and let the episode run. The show is pretty much the epitome of this tv trope to me now. I just don't care anymore. I stopped after the Killmonger one, and am quickly losing interest in seeing the rest. I'll probably end up just picking out the ones that people say are better than average when it's over. |
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Post by ganews on Oct 3, 2021 20:42:16 GMT -5
I ended up so checked out that my laundry buzzer went off at the two-thirds mark and I just went and did laundry and let the episode run. The show is pretty much the epitome of this tv trope to me now. I just don't care anymore. I stopped after the Killmonger one, and am quickly losing interest in seeing the rest. I'll probably end up just picking out the ones that people say are better than average when it's over. Well bad news then. Because it turns out instead of this show being a bunch of one-off What If episodes, it's another multiverse thing where at least some of the episode universes cross over.
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Post by haysoos on Oct 3, 2021 20:49:38 GMT -5
Welp I very much did not enjoy that episode of What If Why would you even do an Ultron episode if you can't get James Spader? He was the only interesting thing about that villain. And Thanos has been Worfed so bad in this series, it starts to look like the Avengers were just incompetent not to have stopped him earlier. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 3, 2021 22:24:38 GMT -5
Welp I very much did not enjoy that episode of What If Why would you even do an Ultron episode if you can't get James Spader? He was the only interesting thing about that villain. And Thanos has been Worfed so bad in this series, it starts to look like the Avengers were just incompetent not to have stopped him earlier. I love that this term exists, and reminds me that the TRUE worst enemy of the Enterprise crew is a supply barrel falling off a shelf. |
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Oct 4, 2021 10:31:18 GMT -5
What If... Marvel kept trying to make Hawkguy a thing? And also made an episode where he was the only original voice? (Right, Zola too, but whatever.) And why did they feel the need to make everything combine into one overarching story?
The more I see how they're handling the multiverse crap, the less confidence I have in it all. Into The Spiderverse was good. Everything else, less and less so. I'll watch the last episode because of sunk costs, but I'll be mad about it. Why would you even do an Ultron episode if you can't get James Spader? He was the only interesting thing about that villain. And Thanos has been Worfed so bad in this series, it starts to look like the Avengers were just incompetent not to have stopped him earlier. I mentioned this in my rewatch of Infinity War:
Avengers: Infinity WarWHY DIDN"T THEY JUST CUT OFF HIS FUCKING ARM so that was the only good thing about the episode.
Also it still pisses me off that they wrote Zola's name as "AЯMIN" on the file. RUSSIAN DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT GOODNIGHT
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 4, 2021 10:35:43 GMT -5
What If... Marvel kept trying to make Hawkguy a thing? And also made an episode where he was the only original voice? (Right, Zola too, but whatever.) And why did they feel the need to make everything combine into one overarching story?
The more I see how they're handling the multiverse crap, the less confidence I have in it all. Into The Spiderverse was good. Everything else, less and less so. I'll watch the last episode because of sunk costs, but I'll be mad about it. Why would you even do an Ultron episode if you can't get James Spader? He was the only interesting thing about that villain. And Thanos has been Worfed so bad in this series, it starts to look like the Avengers were just incompetent not to have stopped him earlier. I mentioned this in my rewatch of Infinity War:
Avengers: Infinity WarWHY DIDN"T THEY JUST CUT OFF HIS FUCKING ARM so that was the only good thing about the episode.
Also it still pisses me off that they wrote Zola's name as "AЯMIN" on the file. RUSSIAN DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT GOODNIGHT
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Oct 4, 2021 12:46:39 GMT -5
We caught up on the past 3 episodes over the weekend, and the Thor one was really fun! But really, Hawkeye and Black Widow, the two least-powered Avengers, are our chance to save humanity/stop Ultron?
This has been an interesting enough diversion, I suppose, but definitely not great.
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Post by haysoos on Oct 6, 2021 15:22:38 GMT -5
Well, the season finale was definitely a lot better than its setup. Still not great, but at least they had some interesting bits, and some unique uses of powers and abilities that I wish we'd actually gotten in End Game.
Really not keen on having all these What If-iverses join together though. Would it be so bad to actually have some speculative anthology stuff that really, really, really doesn't have to tie into or even be compatible with anything else in the MCU or even its own series? Would that be so bad?
I'd really like to see some switching up of artistic and animation styles too.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 6, 2021 18:18:34 GMT -5
Well, the season finale was definitely a lot better than its setup. Still not great, but at least they had some interesting bits, and some unique uses of powers and abilities that I wish we'd actually gotten in End Game. Really not keen on having all these What If-iverses join together though. Would it be so bad to actually have some speculative anthology stuff that really, really, really doesn't have to tie into or even be compatible with anything else in the MCU or even its own series? Would that be so bad? I'd really like to see some switching up of artistic and animation styles too. Yeah, I'd put it along with the first two in a "I didn't hate it" category. Not a masterpiece, but a lot better than the slog that most of the season has been. Overall, though, this series has probably been my least favorite thing that's been done under Feige's oversight, and if it weren't for that handful of episodes, it would be flirting with Inhumans as the worst thing Marvel itself has made (as oppose to something someone else made with the license). |
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Post by ganews on Oct 6, 2021 22:16:58 GMT -5
I too didn't hate it, in the end. Some pretty good callbacks and variations versus the movies. But maybe the series does have something to say for Thanos, who was a lot more creative at using the stones than Ultron. Why use lasers and explosions when you can warp and unmake reality?
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Oct 7, 2021 8:50:44 GMT -5
I liked the last episode a lot better than the one that came before it, but that is because I am always here for more Peggy Carter. Chris Hemsworth seemed to be having a good time, as he did in the Party Thor episode.
I don't really understand why people are so upset that the show culminated in a team coming together to battle a threat against the universe (see: Sam Barsanti and his half-assed reviews on TOC that indicate he only pays attention every few minutes in between Tweeting about his superior taste in media, or whatever). Yeah, it's been done many times before, but like, that's how the comics work? This is the same concept as the Exiles comic that was out a few years ago, which was much better-constructed than this show (of course) and which I really loved, just with different characters apart from Captain Carter. But I'm a big fan of alternate universe team-ups, and I never ever expect the MCU to just let anything stand alone, so YMMV.
As a whole, it wasn't that great -- but I have come to expect from the MCU what I do when I read comic books: there are bits that are great and a lot that suck or don't make sense or are just plain out of character, and the volume of material is so vast that picking and choosing is the only way to keep enjoying it. For example, I fully refuse to acknowledge Rick Remender's run on Captain America because it was atrocious, but Ta-Nehisi Coates' run is pretty great, and Ed Brubaker's is my absolute favorite of all time.
Mostly, I just wish Disney/Marvel would actually pay comic creators what they're worth. Brubaker made more money off his cameo in TWS than he got for the rights to use the Winter Soldier character in the MCU, and Bill Mantlo died in abject poverty in spite of creating Guardians of the Galaxy. But that's another angry rant for another part of this message board.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Oct 7, 2021 9:01:34 GMT -5
One thing I did like was that Clint died instead of Natasha in the apocalypse episode. That's how it should have been in Endgame, because MCU Clint Barton has all the charisma of a wet fart and also went on a murdering spree for like five years solid.
I actually love Lake Bell as Nat, but my mind kept going "Poison Ivy, Poison Ivy, POISON IVY."
Hey, when are we getting season 3 of Harley Quinn, anyway?
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 7, 2021 10:08:56 GMT -5
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 7, 2021 21:45:22 GMT -5
I liked the last episode a lot better than the one that came before it, but that is because I am always here for more Peggy Carter. Chris Hemsworth seemed to be having a good time, as he did in the Party Thor episode. I don't really understand why people are so upset that the show culminated in a team coming together to battle a threat against the universe (see: Sam Barsanti and his half-assed reviews on TOC that indicate he only pays attention every few minutes in between Tweeting about his superior taste in media, or whatever). Yeah, it's been done many times before, but like, that's how the comics work? This is the same concept as the Exiles comic that was out a few years ago, which was much better-constructed than this show (of course) and which I really loved, just with different characters apart from Captain Carter. But I'm a big fan of alternate universe team-ups, and I never ever expect the MCU to just let anything stand alone, so YMMV. As a whole, it wasn't that great -- but I have come to expect from the MCU what I do when I read comic books: there are bits that are great and a lot that suck or don't make sense or are just plain out of character, and the volume of material is so vast that picking and choosing is the only way to keep enjoying it. For example, I fully refuse to acknowledge Rick Remender's run on Captain America because it was atrocious, but Ta-Nehisi Coates' run is pretty great, and Ed Brubaker's is my absolute favorite of all time. Mostly, I just wish Disney/Marvel would actually pay comic creators what they're worth. Brubaker made more money off his cameo in TWS than he got for the rights to use the Winter Soldier character in the MCU, and Bill Mantlo died in abject poverty in spite of creating Guardians of the Galaxy. But that's another angry rant for another part of this message board. That ending made up for the so-so episodes that came before it. Great multi-verse team-up super special edition! |
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Oct 10, 2021 8:30:55 GMT -5
I watched it and was mad about it, but not like ranty mad, more like "you know, it could have just been a bunch of cool stories, there didn't have to be A Meaning". It did some things OK and a lot of things mediocrely.
Also I stick to my theory that more than anything, it was forgettable. What was Tony Stank doing with Gamora? Was that a thing?
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Oct 10, 2021 10:56:47 GMT -5
I watched it and was mad about it, but not like ranty mad, more like "you know, it could have just been a bunch of cool stories, there didn't have to be A Meaning". It did some things OK and a lot of things mediocrely. Also I stick to my theory that more than anything, it was forgettable. What was Tony Stank doing with Gamora? Was that a thing? I was so confused by that! There was a LEGO set released of "Tony Stark on Sakaar", but it wasn't in one of the previous episodes? I just went back to double-check and don't recall seeing them at all before. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 10, 2021 17:03:48 GMT -5
I watched it and was mad about it, but not like ranty mad, more like "you know, it could have just been a bunch of cool stories, there didn't have to be A Meaning". It did some things OK and a lot of things mediocrely. Also I stick to my theory that more than anything, it was forgettable. What was Tony Stank doing with Gamora? Was that a thing? I was so confused by that! There was a LEGO set released of "Tony Stark on Sakaar", but it wasn't in one of the previous episodes? I just went back to double-check and don't recall seeing them at all before. That episode couldn't get completed in time due to something COVID-related and was pushed to next season. We'll get to see it next year. |
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Oct 17, 2021 1:09:25 GMT -5
I actually love Lake Bell as Nat, but my mind kept going "Poison Ivy, Poison Ivy, POISON IVY." Lake Bell was so good! It also really made me want to see her land in the live action MCU in some role. |
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Oct 18, 2021 8:25:18 GMT -5
I actually love Lake Bell as Nat, but my mind kept going "Poison Ivy, Poison Ivy, POISON IVY." Lake Bell was so good! It also really made me want to see her land in the live action MCU in some role. She would be an amazing Jessica Drew. |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Nov 25, 2021 0:37:49 GMT -5
BRO
Ok, well, since we can’t get humandisaster!Barton without a divorce or massive tragedy, tireddad!Barton is, so far, a decent substitute imo, and I am endeared by Hailee Steinfeld’s combo of goofy Hawkeye fangirl/rich girl with no respect for her elders and no self-preservation. I am also endeared by Barton LARPing; seriously, more character development in two television episodes than in five (six?) feature films.
I would pay a truly obscene amount of a money for a full-length Rogers:The Musical, my god. It is poetic cinema. Poetic theater? Whichever.
And those opening credits are episode one are gorgeous.
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Post by ganews on Nov 27, 2021 10:21:50 GMT -5
I would pay a truly obscene amount of a money for a full-length Rogers:The Musical, my god. It is poetic cinema. Poetic theater? Whichever. Everyone was saying this after it was hinted at, and it was very funny here...but no way I could bear to watch more than a couple minutes. |
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