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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Feb 29, 2024 9:30:53 GMT -5
Last year I used a random number generator to choose a National League (“NL”) pro baseball team to support in baseball, and I spent an entire four days paying attention to the Dodgers. This year I did the same thing and now apparently I’m a Cincinnati Reds fan? Are they good? Will they win the World Series? What is their deal? Please, somebody explain the Reds to me. When does baseball start again? April?
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Feb 29, 2024 9:32:58 GMT -5
I used a random number generator to choose my selection in the poll, and came up with 21st place. Please remember this if I’m right in like six months if the Reds finish in 21st.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Feb 29, 2024 16:25:24 GMT -5
I went with 5th not because I think they’ll be the 5th best, but I have a flyer bet for them to win the NL Central, likely the second weakest division overall and weakest in the NL, which would essentially net them a 3 seed.
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Post by monodrone on Mar 1, 2024 11:09:15 GMT -5
I don't rate their chances this year. Not enough moxie in the squad.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Mar 1, 2024 13:50:27 GMT -5
How do you differentiate which team finishes in 3rd with which team finishes in 4th?
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 1, 2024 19:14:24 GMT -5
How do you differentiate which team finishes in 3rd with which team finishes in 4th? Division league loser with more and less points, I suppose.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 3, 2024 2:01:55 GMT -5
I guessed 7th, but that is probably still too high. I think they have a shot at a Wild Card. But, I probably should have gone with somewhere around 9-10. But who knows with the NL central?
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 3, 2024 2:03:15 GMT -5
Also, MLB Opening Day is March 28th.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Mar 5, 2024 14:05:24 GMT -5
I'd have them pegged as a marginal playoff team, benefited by being in a weak division. I assume our ranking is on overall record with head to head record as the tiebreaker; even if they win the division they aren't finishing with a top-6 record. I put them 10th.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 5, 2024 16:11:42 GMT -5
Didn’t know that the Reds were the team with Pete Rose, and the team who won the fixed World Series in the 1910s that’s so famous for being fixed.
Also, Ken Griffey Jr.’s dad played baseball? For the Reds? Who knew?
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 5, 2024 17:13:43 GMT -5
I'd have them pegged as a marginal playoff team, benefited by being in a weak division. I assume our ranking is on overall record with head to head record as the tiebreaker; even if they win the division they aren't finishing with a top-6 record. I put them 10th. The way I thought about it was that division winners would be ranked 1-6, and then Wild Card teams after that. So, I didn't actually go based on overall record. My 7th is probably still too high either way. As I said, I probably should have gone with somewhere around 9-10. But, since the NL Central is what it is, I'm going to leave my pick there. But assume with that 7th, I am thinking that they are behind all the division winners.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 5, 2024 17:35:55 GMT -5
I'd have them pegged as a marginal playoff team, benefited by being in a weak division. I assume our ranking is on overall record with head to head record as the tiebreaker; even if they win the division they aren't finishing with a top-6 record. I put them 10th. The way I thought about it was that division winners would be ranked 1-6, and then Wild Card teams after that. So, I didn't actually go based on overall record. My 7th is probably still too high either way. As I said, I probably should have gone with somewhere around 9-10. But, since the NL Central is what it is, I'm going to leave my pick there. But assume with that 7th, I am thinking that they are behind all the division winners. I guess when I initially made this dumb thread, I didn’t clarify a set of rules for how to rank teams. Let’s say it’s based on record with the exception of winning the World Series and winning the national league. I guess in the hypothetical scenario where the Reds have the best record in baseball but don’t win at least their conference championship, they’d be ranked 3rd. And if they have the second best record in baseball and fail to win at least their conference championship, they are ranked third if the team with the best record in baseball wins their conference, otherwise they are ranked fourth. So, hypothetically, the Reds could be ranked 10th and still win their division. This may contradict what I told Dr. Rumak a couple of days ago. Edit: In hindsight, I don’t think my hastily written response to Rumak’s question even makes sense.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 5, 2024 17:39:01 GMT -5
Also, MLB Opening Day is March 28th. Do you think the Reds shall be better than the defending NL champion Diamondbacks this season?
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 5, 2024 17:53:27 GMT -5
The way I thought about it was that division winners would be ranked 1-6, and then Wild Card teams after that. So, I didn't actually go based on overall record. My 7th is probably still too high either way. As I said, I probably should have gone with somewhere around 9-10. But, since the NL Central is what it is, I'm going to leave my pick there. But assume with that 7th, I am thinking that they are behind all the division winners. I guess when I initially made this dumb thread, I didn’t clarify a set of rules for how to rank teams. Let’s say it’s based on record with the exception of winning the World Series and winning the national league. I guess in the hypothetical scenario where the Reds have the best record in baseball but don’t win at least their conference championship, they’d be ranked 3rd. And if they have the second best record in baseball and fail to win at least their conference championship, they are ranked third if the team with the best record in baseball wins their conference, otherwise they are ranked fourth. So, hypothetically, the Reds could be ranked 10th and still win their division. This may contradict what I told Dr. Rumak a couple of days ago. Edit: In hindsight, I don’t think my hastily written response to Rumak’s question even makes sense. Yeah, I'm not sure any of that makes any sense. Though, it is possible that the Reds could win their division and still be ranked 10th in overall record. Entirely possible, really, that the winner of the NL Central could finish behind 9 other teams in record.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 5, 2024 17:57:46 GMT -5
Also, MLB Opening Day is March 28th. Do you think the Reds shall be better than the defending NL champion Diamondbacks this season? I honestly have no idea what the DBacks will do this season. Somewhere above .500, I hope? They still have a question mark with pitching. Though, it is slightly better than last season? What is concerning is that the other teams in the NL West may not be as weak this year as they were last year. I don't see any way that the Dodgers don't win the NL West. DBacks are aiming for a Wild Card. Since I believe the Reds also have a chance at a Wild Card, I can't really make a determination here. Admittedly, I've not looked at any of the updated projections on either team within the last 6 weeks or so. The problem is that both the Dbacks and Reds have a lot of young players. And I don't feel comfortable projecting those kinds of players.
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Post by pantsgoblin on Mar 5, 2024 18:08:36 GMT -5
I don't know jack shit about Cincinnati other than the Reds and Skyline Chili both being notoriously terrible. So I always assumed that the Reds are a reference to the bowel movements you have after eating said chili. Yes, I have always assumed this and it's not a setup to a lame joke.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 5, 2024 18:20:10 GMT -5
I don't know jack shit about Cincinnati other than the Reds and Skyline Chili both being notoriously terrible. So I always assumed that the Reds are a reference to the bowel movements you have after eating said chili. Yes, I have always assumed this and it's not a setup to a lame joke. But the Reds have won multiple World Series, and only one of those was fixed. How terrible can they be?
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 6, 2024 7:48:14 GMT -5
I think it’s good that the Reds have like four mascots, and they all look like shit, but in an endearing way.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Mar 6, 2024 20:05:27 GMT -5
I think it’s good that the Reds have like four mascots, and they all look like shit, but in an endearing way. I must admit, given American sports teams' track records, that just the idea of the mascot for a baseball team named "the Reds" fills me with anxiety.
Maybe you should make a poll about the mascots as well so we can tell which one is the........... best...........??
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 6, 2024 20:22:24 GMT -5
I think it’s good that the Reds have like four mascots, and they all look like shit, but in an endearing way. I must admit, given American sports teams' track records, that just the idea of the mascot for a baseball team named "the Reds" fills me with anxiety.
Maybe you should make a poll about the mascots as well so we can tell which one is the........... best...........??
”Reds” in this case is an allusion to red socks worn by the players. I checked that before deciding to be a fan of them. In the 1950s, they apparently changed their name to the “Redlegs” so people wouldn’t think they were communists. The mascots are three fucked up baseball-head people and a Phillies mascot ripoff.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Mar 6, 2024 20:27:02 GMT -5
I must admit, given American sports teams' track records, that just the idea of the mascot for a baseball team named "the Reds" fills me with anxiety.
Maybe you should make a poll about the mascots as well so we can tell which one is the........... best...........??
”Reds” in this case is an allusion to red socks worn by the players. I checked that before deciding to be a fan of them. In the 1950s, they apparently changed their name to the “Redlegs” so people wouldn’t think they were communists. The mascots are three fucked up baseball-head people and a Phillies mascot ripoff. Rando, looking this up shook me to my very core, because on the face of it "Mr. Red" is obviously a pathetic rip-off of Mr. Met. But it turns out that Mr. Red is actually ten years older than Mr. Met, and that my beloved Mr. Met is in fact a rip-off of Mr. Red. What the fuck!
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 6, 2024 20:37:04 GMT -5
”Reds” in this case is an allusion to red socks worn by the players. I checked that before deciding to be a fan of them. In the 1950s, they apparently changed their name to the “Redlegs” so people wouldn’t think they were communists. The mascots are three fucked up baseball-head people and a Phillies mascot ripoff. Rando, looking this up shook me to my very core, because on the face of it "Mr. Red" is obviously a pathetic rip-off of Mr. Met. But it turns out that Mr. Red is actually ten years older than Mr. Met, and that my beloved Mr. Met is in fact a rip-off of Mr. Red. What the fuck! Yeah, it fucking rules, right? But then Mr. Redlegs is also very clearly a ripoff of Mr. Met, who is somehow a ripoff of Mr. Red, who indisputably looks like an ersatz ripoff of Mr. Met despite being, as you said the original sentient baseball weirdo mascot.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 7, 2024 0:42:51 GMT -5
I must admit, given American sports teams' track records, that just the idea of the mascot for a baseball team named "the Reds" fills me with anxiety.
Maybe you should make a poll about the mascots as well so we can tell which one is the........... best...........??
”Reds” in this case is an allusion to red socks worn by the players. I checked that before deciding to be a fan of them. In the 1950s, they apparently changed their name to the “Redlegs” so people wouldn’t think they were communists. The mascots are three fucked up baseball-head people and a Phillies mascot ripoff.
I didn't know any of this. So I googled for it. The Phanatic ripoff debuted in 2022. The mascot costume was designed by David Raymond, who was the original Philly Phanatic. So, he just made a new mascot costume that was mostly like his original one. He now runs a company which designs mascots. Gotta wonder if he just makes variations of the Phanatic costume, which would be amusing.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Mar 8, 2024 15:19:00 GMT -5
”Reds” in this case is an allusion to red socks worn by the players. I checked that before deciding to be a fan of them. In the 1950s, they apparently changed their name to the “Redlegs” so people wouldn’t think they were communists. The mascots are three fucked up baseball-head people and a Phillies mascot ripoff. Rando, looking this up shook me to my very core, because on the face of it "Mr. Red" is obviously a pathetic rip-off of Mr. Met. But it turns out that Mr. Red is actually ten years older than Mr. Met, and that my beloved Mr. Met is in fact a rip-off of Mr. Red. What the fuck! This might go more in unpopular opinions, but despite being a Met fan I dislike Mr. Met. I feel mascots are beneath NYC based franchises.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Mar 8, 2024 15:21:58 GMT -5
I’m shocked there hasn’t been a movie about the original Pirates Parrot that was dealing coke underneath Three Rivers stadium
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 8, 2024 21:58:48 GMT -5
”Reds” in this case is an allusion to red socks worn by the players. I checked that before deciding to be a fan of them. In the 1950s, they apparently changed their name to the “Redlegs” so people wouldn’t think they were communists. The mascots are three fucked up baseball-head people and a Phillies mascot ripoff.
I didn't know any of this. So I googled for it. The Phanatic ripoff debuted in 2022. The mascot costume was designed by David Raymond, who was the original Philly Phanatic. So, he just made a new mascot costume that was mostly like his original one. He now runs a company which designs mascots. Gotta wonder if he just makes variations of the Phanatic costume, which would be amusing.
Please bear in mind the fact that the Phanatic ripoff debuting in 2022 means that he perhaps primarily a ripoff of another immensely popular Phanatic ripoff, the Philadelphia Flyers’ mascot Gritty. I’m sure the Reds’ decision to create this mascot was influenced by the success of Gritty as a weird cultural phenomenon. This means that the Reds’ mascots are: 1) A baseball-headed weirdo who looks like he’s derivative of Mr. Met, in spite of Mr. Met technically being a ripoff of him. 2) A baseball-headed weirdo who is an old-timey looking ripoff of Mr. Met, and also a callback to a 1950s Reds team from before the days of Mr. Met. 3). The Mrs. Pac-Man of Mr. Met ripoffs (except actually, there’s already a female Mr. Met for the real Mets, so actually she’s a ripoff of the Mrs. Pac-Man of Mr. Met ripoffs). But again, Mr. Met is technically a ripoff of Reds mascot Mr. Red, who absolutely looks like a ripoff of Mr. Met. 4) A weird guy who looks like a ripoff of the Philly Phanatic but which is actually a ripoff of Gritty who is himself a ripoff of the Philly Phanatic. All of this, I have to reiterate, is extremely cool.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 8, 2024 22:01:25 GMT -5
How bad of a thing is it that promising young Reds third baseman Noelvi Marte wasn’t good enough at doing steroids to avoid getting caught and is now suspended for a half-season?
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on Mar 12, 2024 17:57:33 GMT -5
How bad of a thing is it that promising young Reds third baseman Noelvi Marte wasn’t good enough at doing steroids to avoid getting caught and is now suspended for a half-season? Not that bad actually! The Reds for some reason pursued an offseason strategy of stocking up on third basemen the way that my late great aunt stocked up on toilet paper rolls when they went on sale at CVS. (She had whole pallets in her bedroom when we cleared out her house.) Marte was going to be their starting third baseman...but they also signed pretty good guy Jeimer Candelario to play third base...and they also had Spencer Steer, who's fun to watch at third base...and they also had Jonathan India, who is less fun but has cool hair. I think your random drawing actually did you well, the Reds have absolutely Good Vibes this year despite the 'roids. Elly de la Cruz is crazy fun and does wild/wacky things that make highlight reels (mostly good, some bad), they have so many young hitters that there isn't room for all of them, the ballpark is small so many home runs, and the pitching could either be pretty good (yay, you get to watch a playoff team) or kind of stinkturdy (yay, you have something to complain about). Also, they are really evenly matched with their competition inside the division, so it'll be a real fight all the way and you will get to boo the Cubs, Cardinals, etc. with abandon.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Mar 15, 2024 11:12:12 GMT -5
Rando, looking this up shook me to my very core, because on the face of it "Mr. Red" is obviously a pathetic rip-off of Mr. Met. But it turns out that Mr. Red is actually ten years older than Mr. Met, and that my beloved Mr. Met is in fact a rip-off of Mr. Red. What the fuck! This might go more in unpopular opinions, but despite being a Met fan I dislike Mr. Met. I feel mascots are beneath NYC based franchises. As a child, I accidentally kicked Mr. Met in the balls.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Mar 15, 2024 15:48:17 GMT -5
This might go more in unpopular opinions, but despite being a Met fan I dislike Mr. Met. I feel mascots are beneath NYC based franchises. As a child, I accidentally kicked Mr. Met in the balls. Were you the one he flipped the bird at a couple of years ago?
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