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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Apr 16, 2024 12:40:16 GMT -5
I started out to post a random music thought about the album "Tommy" which got me thinking about what an insane mess the movie version was. I mean, 1975, Ken Russel, Keith Moon, Oliver Reed, Jack Nicholson, The Who, and all the drugs in Great Britain. What could you expect? I got to wondering what it might have been like if a different director had made it, if you could take them from any point in their career and drop them there. Imagining different directors might have done with it. David Lynch did a fantastic job with The Elephant Man, Terry Gilliam is a genius, and was friends with The Who. I finally decided that something I would have loved to see would have been the take John Waters from the era of Cry Baby and Hairspray, when he moved past pure shock and started showing more heart and empathy in his movies, might have had.
So, as a thought experiment, Col. Mustard, with a lead pipe, in the conservatory, pick a movie, pick a director, and if you want to, pick a different star, and tell us what you think a really interesting movie might be. I have a couple: Sam Peckinpah's Romeo and Juliet Charlie Kaufman directing the Marx Bros in....well, anything
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Post by pantsgoblin on Apr 16, 2024 13:22:36 GMT -5
I started out to post a random music thought about the album "Tommy" which got me thinking about what an insane mess the movie version was. I mean, 1975, Ken Russel, Keith Moon, Oliver Reed, Jack Nicholson, The Who, and all the drugs in Great Britain. What could you expect? I got to wondering what it might have been like if a different director had made it, if you could take them from any point in their career and drop them there. Imagining different directors might have done with it. David Lynch did a fantastic job with The Elephant Man, Terry Gilliam is a genius, and was friends with The Who. I finally decided that something I would have loved to see would have been the take John Waters from the era of Cry Baby and Hairspray, when he moved past pure shock and started showing more heart and empathy in his movies, might have had. So, as a thought experiment, Col. Mustard, with a lead pipe, in the conservatory, pick a movie, pick a director, and if you want to, pick a different star, and tell us what you think a really interesting movie might be. I have a couple: Sam Peckinpah's Romeo and Juliet Charlie Kaufman directing the Marx Bros in....well, anything Oliver Reed was my favorite part of Tommy, ergo they should have just stuck with good ol' alcohol.
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Post by Dellarigg on Apr 16, 2024 13:49:36 GMT -5
Taxi Driver, directed by Werner Herzog and starring Klaus Kinski as Travis Bickle. I don’t necessarily think this would eclipse the film we have now, but it would be something to see.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Apr 16, 2024 14:12:07 GMT -5
Continuing with Herzog, a documentary about Terry Pratchett done by Herzog with interviews of all the people who knew/loved Sir Terry best, and a focus on his activism around the right to die.
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Post by Dellarigg on Apr 16, 2024 16:21:15 GMT -5
Continuing with Herzog, a documentary about Terry Pratchett done by Herzog with interviews of all the people who knew/loved Sir Terry best, and a focus on his activism around the right to die. I love Herzog, but what would happen here is that one of the interviewees would reveal they were interested in tiny snakes or Russian icicles or whatever, and we’d get a 20 minute tangent on that. I’m not saying that would be a bad thing, of course.
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Apr 16, 2024 16:41:53 GMT -5
Taxi Driver, directed by Werner Herzog and starring Klaus Kinski as Travis Bickle. I don’t necessarily think this would eclipse the film we have now, but it would be something to see. I like that idea. I had thought about what Taxi Driver might be like if directed by Terry Gilliam.
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Apr 16, 2024 16:51:20 GMT -5
Continuing with Herzog, a documentary about Terry Pratchett done by Herzog with interviews of all the people who knew/loved Sir Terry best, and a focus on his activism around the right to die. I need to read more Pratchett, I am sadly lacking in that, but I would watch the shit out of a Herzog doc about him.
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Post by pantsgoblin on Apr 16, 2024 22:46:03 GMT -5
Apparently Jack Nicholson and Dustin Hoffman tried for years at an adaptation of Richard Brautigan's The Hawkline Monster and eventually gave up because of their age, though Yorgos Lanthimos might be doing something with it. That's my dream movie. Sorry, I'm not very imaginative.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Apr 17, 2024 1:19:06 GMT -5
Speaking of Gilliam, I’ve soured a lot on Brazil over the last decade, mainly around Jonathan Pryce’s Sam. In the 1980s there was a director working who had a much sharper eye for all sorts of toxic male bullshit, though, and he’d even directed an idiosyncratic dystopian film, albeit a very different, pastoral one. In other words, I want John Boorman’s Brazil.
I don’t think he’d necessarily be a good replacement for Pryce (too good looking) but I think of Gabriel Byrne’s performance as Uther Pendragon in Boorman’s Excalibur. Byrne had an energy—and sense of threat—that the rest of the film, as much as I respect Excalibur for existing at all, couldn’t quite live up to. Boorman and Byrne’s Uther is ambitious, past amorality and into immorality, a man of power whose big dream (having sex with Igrayne) does come true. Sam only has heroic flights of fancy, and while his fantasies are more straightforward good guy fantasies from what I remember they are still ones where he is in a clear position of power over a woman. Although it’s been a while, I remember thinking that maybe Sam’s ego-sex-power-control fantasy manifested pretty darkly: Sam ends up exhibiting some fairly threatening behavior. It’s a great performance by Pryce, but I don’t think Gilliam’s direction is emotionally aware enough to really explore that.
Boorman, though, I think could get there—Excalibur is very much about the intersection of desire, political power, and narrative, and you see themes from Brazil elsewhere in his work: the dark uses of chummy male cameraderie (Deliverance), deception and political opportunism (The Tailor of Panama), the disruption of human nature (Zardoz), ambiguous reality and antiheroics (Point Blank).
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on May 16, 2024 8:48:47 GMT -5
All of a sudden I want to see Guillermo del Toro’s "The Brave Little Toaster".
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Post by pantsgoblin on May 16, 2024 9:22:59 GMT -5
All of a sudden I want to see Guillermo del Toro’s "The Brave Little Toaster". What would Doug Jones be playing? The vacuum?
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Post by pantsgoblin on May 16, 2024 10:19:45 GMT -5
Here's another "what if?" from film history: for a while Sam Peckinpah was developing Superman with Steve McQueen as Clark.
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Post by ganews on May 18, 2024 22:04:10 GMT -5
How about if Tarantino made "Kill Bea" with Zendaya as Copperhead's daughter, grown up, trained by blind Darryl Hannah, and and out for revenge on Uma Thurman? She could kidnap Sydney Sweeney as the grown BB in the first act.
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Jun 6, 2024 11:54:13 GMT -5
How about if Tarantino made "Kill Bea" with Zendaya as Copperhead's daughter, grown up, trained by blind Darryl Hannah, and and out for revenge on Uma Thurman? She could kidnap Sydney Sweeney as the grown BB in the first act. Julia Dreyfuss' One Armed Sofie Fatale should be in the mix somewhere.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jun 6, 2024 14:09:52 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the Bryan Fuller version of the Interview with the Vampire TV show...sigh...
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Jul 12, 2024 16:44:55 GMT -5
Thanks to a suggestion by Sterling Archer, I now want to see a version of Road Warrior directed by John Waters.
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Oct 2, 2024 23:38:47 GMT -5
Having just re-watched The Shining, I was struck by how many other directions the story could have gone in the hands of a different director. My starting point was that Alfred Hitchcock might have gone the Psycho plot twist route and had Wendy simply keep smacking Jack in the head a few more times halfway through the movie, creating a totally different set of problems for Wendy. Halloran shows up and sees Wendy standing over Jack's mushed in head with a bat, and suddenly the rest of the movie is Wendy's trial where she tries, despite a lack of evidence, to prove that there were evil supernatural forces at the overlook, and that she did not murder Jack. James Cameron might have made a franchise where Wendy went the Sarah Conner route, escaping from whatever institution she was committed to after her trial, to battle the Overlook's dark forces to save Danny from it's clutches. Let's face it, Shelley Duvall's Wendy really did have the potential to evolve into a total badass. She showed a tremendous amount of courage as a terrified, traumatized DA victim. As good as Shelley Duvall was at portraying Wendy's trauma, imagine if George Miller had been directing Charlize Theron as Wendy. Maybe Tom Hardy as Jack, I have heard she wouldn't mind a little batting practice with him. Totally different, yet awesome movies. I would love to see each of them.
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Oct 10, 2024 22:54:41 GMT -5
In honor of Edward D. Wood Jr 's 100th birthday, as noted by pantsgoblin I want to see Guy Madden's "Plan 9 From Outer Space", and Ed Wood's "The Saddest Music in the World".
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Post by Floyd Dinnertime Barber on Oct 16, 2024 20:57:18 GMT -5
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