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Post by ganews on Jun 1, 2024 6:47:24 GMT -5
After a marathon of coin flips, the June tiebreak winner is cLOUDDEAD, "Ten". Post your thoughts below!
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Post by Some Kind of Munster on Jun 1, 2024 20:51:51 GMT -5
I think I listened to “Dead Dogs Two” more than any other single song in 2004 but I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anything else by these guys (one of the quirks of the Limewire era, sometimes that shit was hard to find!) so I’m looking forward to checking this out
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Post by pantsgoblin on Jun 3, 2024 12:37:53 GMT -5
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Post by pantsgoblin on Jun 4, 2024 13:33:42 GMT -5
Is it hip-hop? Nah. Is it even "rap" as understood in 2004? Kind of, with severe caveats. It's the sound of being adrift in life (in my case, very late college and already working a 9-to-5) and feeling left out of the overall conversation, for reasons I'll elaborate.
I should preface that I prefer the first, self-titled album, but that one's different in that it's basically an ambient album with some vocals. Odd Nosdam is an incredible producer and, as far as I know, the one acolyte of Boards of Canada who's received the nod from those irritatingly reclusive Scottish brothers with a couple of remixes.
This, the second, is relatively tighter and more about the rapping, I guess. So my friend who basically grew up in a bar in Athens, OH and was always absurdly protective of the Ohio Scene was all in to the New Sound coming from Cincinnati: Anticon.
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Here's where I would say that the internal drama of Anticon meant anything, but it's always been Odd Nosdam. Nasal voice guy and the other guy are fine. It's all about the production, which, as the Quietus piece alludes, is at least in the conversation about rap going forward.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jun 9, 2024 16:18:32 GMT -5
I am listening to this album today. I don't know anything about it, so this should be fun.
Edited:
The first two tracks didn't do anything for me. But it is definitely nice to hear something that doesn't use the modern production techniques that overproduce every track into utter blandness. Here the production was clearly serving a musical purpose.
When the 3rd track started, and continuing through the next several.... wow, something about this definitely sounds like 2004. I'm not sure what it was, and I'd definitely never heard any of this before, but it definitely evokes that era. I think tracks 3-8 are the ones that sound the most unified in evoking that time. And this vibe set in even before the clearly Bush-era war protesting.
The last 3 tracks were kind of a mixed bag for me. I liked the vibe of the penultimate one. But the other two didn't work for me.
I'm not that fond of the voices of the rappers. As in, their actual tone. However, the lyrics are pretty good, and their delivery ranges from ok-to-good.
So, overall, I found it to be okay. The production was what interested me the most. I liked the audio effects, the distortion, the layering, etc. Surprisingly, I did actually like the quasi-ambient sound. I liked the drone sounds, the organ, and the rest of that.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jun 14, 2024 0:51:27 GMT -5
The influence of Kool Keith mentioned in the Quietus article’s definitely audible. I don’t have much substantive comment on the influence but I feel he’s one of those guys whose influence has been lurking underneath this board’s favored artists since the forum’s inception, especially in some of the earlier record clubs. pantsgoblin Sounds like I need to seek the first one out, though there’s still a lot of ambient in this one, a real expansiveness. There’s definitely a hint of glitchy, fuzzy noise—not in terms of any of the genres associated with those words, but more descriptively. On the one hand its early aughts origins are obvious, but on the other hand there’s a sense of scope and space that reaches beyond that and makes it feel newer. The lyrics help too, and these really are song-like—as Desert Dweller noted there’s the organ, and the samples are blended than collaged. The rapping, though—I’m always here for some of those typical, slightly-bratty mid-aughts cadences but sometimes their voices…did anyone else sometimes get a bit of a Lonely Island feeling? The comparison entered my head in “Son of a Gun” and the lyrics of “Rifle Eyes” are a lot more graphic and poetic than “Incredible Thoughts” but…I’m just being a stupid dumb guy on this, right? I’ll blame The Quietus for setting up a comparison in my head with (previous record club entry) Madvillainy, too, that’s just unfair. I listened to this via the bandcamp deluxe edition so I’d jotted down on the shape of the album and the resumption of previous themes before realizing I was listening to remixes attached to the ends. They’re good, though (Boards of Canada remix!) and the instrumentals are great, too. Now to go back with some stuff out of my system. Odd Nosdam’s a familiar name to my, I know I’ve listened to some of his stuff, but I can’t totally pinpoint where—maybe it’s a name that’s on one of my long text files of things to listen to that I haven’t gotten around to yet? The only reference to him I can find in my files is in my notes for this… Looking through his wikipedia page I think I explored some of his stuff college (back in the Obama and very tail of the W. years) and forgot, maybe.
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Post by ganews on Jun 14, 2024 12:55:15 GMT -5
See, I was focusing on the sound effects and trippy hops and thinking they would have landed better in the 90s.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jun 14, 2024 17:46:16 GMT -5
On a second deep listen didn’t feel the need to think so hard about the ambience and texture—got more into the flow and rhythm and could hear better its broad appeal and catchiness; I wouldn’t quite say there’s an “indie” appeal but hits in the same area (didn’t hear The Lonely Island this time because I wasn’t picking Part and atomizing, taking away context acan lead to some weird comparisons)
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Post by Some Kind of Munster on Jun 29, 2024 10:53:04 GMT -5
I listened to this a few times and planned to say some stuff but I got distracted every time I started writing a post and let’s be real here, I’m not good at writing about music at all (“this fuckin’ rules!” and “this fuckin’ sucks!” is basically the gist any time I try). That said, here are some scattered thoughts:
Right off the bat the nasal rapping guy is irritating me on “Pop Song”, but by the end of the track the whole thing has won me over – the “Elvis, what happened?” hook is a sneaky earworm and the delivery of “and then we said ‘fuck’ in our pop song” got a chuckle out of me.
As others have mentioned the dense, layered sound is pretty interesting throughout – I listened while working on other things and it was mostly pleasant background noise but every now and then a snippet of melody or a particularly striking lyric would cut through and make me go “Oh!”.
Other than “Rifle Eyes”, which is maybe the most “2004 indie rock”-sounding song here, nothing else really jumped out at me the way “Dead Dogs Two” did back in ‘04. Even if I had managed to find any of these songs on Limewire I don’t know if they would have inspired me to buy the album but listening to it now as a sort of time capsule it’s kinda fascinating and it seems like a record that’s going to reward repeat listens
Had the realization that the one extra-nasally dude (is that Doseone?) sounds like John K. Samson attempting to rap
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