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Post by ganews on Jul 1, 2024 6:52:18 GMT -5
The July poll winner is Spiritualized, "Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating In Space". Post your thoughts below.
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Post by Dellarigg on Jul 1, 2024 7:22:06 GMT -5
Despite stiff competition from Radiohead and The Verve, when this came out I had little hesitation in pronouncing it the best album of 1997. Nowadays, I pronounce it the best album of the 90s with equal conviction.
They do two things as well as anybody has ever done them: narcoticised bliss (Broken Heart) and pulverising noise (Electricity). Sometimes they do them both in the same song (All Of My Thoughts, Cop Shoot Cop). Throw in some psychedelia, some avant-jazz, some soul and gospel tinges, have the lyrics be about Jesus, drugs, and getting dumped, and the emotional dashboard is fully lit up. My top picks: All Of My Thoughts, and the stretch that includes Electricity, Home of the Brave, and The Individual.
As for how English it is ... well, probably not very, given all the influences are solidly American. But we all know how acute an English sensibility can be when it comes to taking American music for our own devices.
Here's Electricity from Glastonbury in 1998. The vocals are a bit low, but stick around for the black and white light show and some theremin abuse towards the end:
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Post by Dellarigg on Jul 3, 2024 10:55:49 GMT -5
Well, it's a long album, I suppose.
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Post by ganews on Jul 3, 2024 10:57:54 GMT -5
Well, it's a long album, I suppose. I listened to it. I like to hear harmonica in pop music. (Did I ever get around to running a harmonica-themed month?)
If I held my breath waiting for other people to fill up comments on these threads I'd turn blue.
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Post by repulsionist on Jul 3, 2024 17:12:38 GMT -5
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I have strong feelings about this record which can only be coaxed out during some sort of bender. Those are fewer and further between now, so a brief reminiscence is all that's available currently.
I was a Spacemen 3 first-gen fan from 1989 onwards. I listened to Lazer Guided Melodies shortly after it released. Bought Pure Phase. Didn't much pay attention to this record until I was swarmed by the US Volkswagen advert in late 1998. Bought it in 2000. Listened to it repeatedly. Amazing that Jason Pierce managed to get so much instrumentation into each song. Even the emptiness portrayed in lyrics has a rich, comfortable fabric of music to relax in, much like the various "just right" mixtures of opiates and stimulants coursing through J. Spaceman's veins before, during, and after this record.
"Home of the Brave" is a nice homage/reference/continuance to Laurie Anderson after their cover of "Born Never Asked" on Pure Phase.
Congrats on the win, 'rigg.
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Post by monodrone on Jul 4, 2024 10:24:46 GMT -5
It occurs to me that I've had this lot confused with Mercury Rev for ~25 years.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 7, 2024 0:25:12 GMT -5
I'm listening to it tonight. This is not really my thing. Too much of it is damned repetitive. Dellarigg calls this "narcoticised bliss". To me it is just boring. The vocal delivery contributes to this, with this whispered style with no dynamic contrast, or expressive movement.
Sorry. But this is just not my thing at all. The thing I hate the most about modern music (other than Autotune) is the droning, repetitive music. While this is definitely better than the mechanized modern sound, I still find it boring. There is nothing that annoys me more in music (other than Autotune) than droning repetition.
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Post by Dellarigg on Jul 7, 2024 11:10:19 GMT -5
Could be a grower?
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Post by pantsgoblin on Jul 11, 2024 12:16:36 GMT -5
Appropriate that Dellarigg compares Spiritualized to The Verve, since this album is sometimes read as Jason Pierce's salve for a broken heart after his keyboardist Kate Radley dumped him for Richard Ashcroft (though Pierce has denied this). The record is definitely suffused with some sort of resigned melancholy, which may have been why I couldn't really relate to it in 1997, the year when my UK music listening was more big-beat techno like Chemical Brothers and Underworld. I also was reading a lot of Rolling Stone that year and, as was their wont, they misrepresented a challenging album with a 3 1/2-star review (the RS Record Guide now has it at 4 1/2). It was a few years before I really clicked with it--I wouldn't call it my favorite album of 1997 now but I've returned to it about once per annum since. The drone and repetition never bothered me because I find it in the vein of 20th Century avant-gardists like Steve Reich and Glenn Branca. I also hear parallels to what early Mercury Rev might have become if they knew how to write a straightforward melody. At least according to Wikipedia, "Cop Shoot Cop" is indeed a reference to the NYC post-punk/industrial band that was one of the more frustrating albeit interesting entries when I did the '90s Most Unsellable Major-Label Albums discography review. Anyway, glad Ladies and Gentleman won and prompted me to return to these hymnals. As someone who has struggled in the past with the compulsion to block out unwanted feelings with chemicals, it resonates.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 11, 2024 17:25:09 GMT -5
The drone and repetition isn't unfamiliar to me. But I don't really like Steve Reich and other minimalists who operate in Classical music. Minimalism isn't my least favorite 20th C classical trend, but it isn't something I find enjoyable most of the time, though of course there are always exceptions.
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Post by pantsgoblin on Jul 19, 2024 12:09:21 GMT -5
though of course there are always exceptions. What do you like of 20th Century classical/minimalism? I'm legitimately asking because I always like recommendations and I know you have a significant knowledge of classical.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 19, 2024 13:36:47 GMT -5
though of course there are always exceptions. What do you like of 20th Century classical/minimalism? I'm legitimately asking because I always like recommendations and I know you have a significant knowledge of classical. I like some of the minimalist operas of John Adams, and some of his purely orchestral works. Though I know Adams doesn't consider himself a strict minimalist. Some of Phillip Glass, though not all. I'm still working through his operas, as sometimes I find that his minimalism is mitigated by having voices over it. I quite like a lot of Arvo Part, because I feel his use of minimalism works really well in the context of Eastern Orthodox music. But, my list is not very long. I don't find this relaxing like most people do. I don't listen to music to relax. My brain is too analytical for that. If there isn't something to grab my attention, then I find it incredibly boring and turn it off.
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